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No one is saying that they don't grow up to be good or responsible?!

Posted By: tm on 2008-09-06
In Reply to: Why can't you? I did it - Backwards typist

All I am saying is they would have wanted you home, instead of a babysitter or someone else! No one said anything about the quality of person they turn out to be!? Little children need their moms and that is the truth! I know, I used to work at a daycare and how they would leave those poor little babies is beyond me! I couldn't do it! And it was anywhere from 8 to 12 hours a day! And then they would get jealous if they got attached to us!? Hello!? Who is raising them?! Not you lady! And I'm not talking about single moms either. These were "business" women who had husbands and felt the need to support their "lifestyle" and to give their kids "everything," when all they REALLY wanted was their love and time! I may not have the nicest, newest, biggest house, but my kids want for nothing, including me, and I am there for them!


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Grow up. nm

GROW UP
We are talking about a real solution to a real problem and you insist on being an immature child and posting ridiculous comments. You are really not as important as you seem to think you are. I think typing isn't the only thing you are backwards at. Like life for one.
Why don't YOU grow up.............sm
A little levity on this board is not a bad thing! I think it's important to be able to laugh once in a while. Sheesh!
Please grow a brain. Look up what the
I was not alluding to real trains hitting each other, okay?

Taking everything you read literally is the best way I know of to be brainwashed, cheated, fooled, hoodwinked, taken advantage of, screwed, you name it.

What I alluded to is that I don't want MY tax dollars, or anyone ELSE's, bailing out a bunch of crooks who STOLE money from a bunch of people, sold 'em bad loans, etc., and got RICH BEYOND ANYONE'S WILDEST DREAMS by doing so.

Wall Street & Corporate America have turned into one giant con-man's shell-game, and it's about time there was a major shakeout and restructuring. Would it be difficult in the short-run? You bet. (Like it isn't already?) But in the long-run, if the system were reinvented and rebuilt, it might come out a lot better in the end.
Get a clue and grow up
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Thank god Im still young enough for someone to tell me to Grow up
LOL

PS I did not hear that on TV
Heck Gov - just grow some more pot!
Now that's thinkin, Lincoln!
How does your garden grow? sm
She was a plant, and so was Chene Thompson, the State Rep's wife who offered her the use of a house rent free. How else does a homeless woman living in her pickup truck manage to get tickets to a town meeting (you don't just walk in) and make her way to the front of a crowd of people and just happen to stand beside the person who has the answer to her prayers?

Maybe those who dug through the records on Joe the Plumber can come up with something.


JTBB grow up!

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Where Boys Grow up to be Jihadis.

I am attaching a link to a New York Times article written by Andrea Elliot this past Sunday.  Be prepared, it is somewhat long, so dig in!


It is about her findings of the peope and the reasoning behind the attacks in Morrocco.  It is a very interesting read. 


I am also attaching a link to NPR's Fresh Air for a followup interview that she gave today in regards to her article which really sums up the whole experience for her.


This story epitomizes why I believe our interventionalist policies in dealing with the middle east and Islamic terrorism in general is failing and why we have to change our polices as soon as possible.  It is sobering and I hope you find it interesting and enlightening.


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/25/magazine/25tetouan-t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16733559


Fox has nothing to do with it, they just happened to report it first....grow up, and allow others th
I'm starting to dislike you dems more and more every day. Keep sinking, along with that sex article you forgot to publish the link to. You are all smut and no substance, most of the time.
I restate the last sentance - grow up!
Here, read real slow now so you can understand. My post had no political substance because it was in reply to your message -

If you can't figure out the simplist of things I feel quite sad for you.
You are so right! Grow up America! Go find your
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Grow a funny bone
You're going to give yourself a heart attack with that kind of bitterness, dearie.

If you fail to see why that post is hilarious, you must also be one of those people who failed to see that electing an ill-equipped pop idol to the highest post in the nation was a huge mistake.

You SHOULD be ashamed.
GROW UP SORE LOSER!

Please, put on those big-girl panties, stop crying, get that stiff upper lip and GROW THE BLEEEEEP UP!!  YOU LOST.  AMERICA WON! 


Closed minds don't get nourished and thus can't grow. nm

Grow your own. It's stuck in your little poor me world...nm

I've gotta put mine where it will grow without
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Obama wants to grow small businesses

I can stick my head in the sand and pretend I don't know what this garbage is all about but anyone with half a brain would know you can't grow a business when you continue to pay pay pay through the nose AND give it to someone who has no motivation to do crap with their life.  


Can your computer monitor grow fingers?

Why have we let this go on and grow for so long??? Did we need slave labor that badly?....nm
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Thank you for being responsible..

enough to read up on someone and not take someone else's talking points and pass them off as fact. I am amazed at how many people are quick to jump on the bandwagon of rumor, name calling and hatred just because someone else has a different opinion. To those of you who can't do your own homework on the candidates without a little help from the far left or the far right, please don't vote, it is a waste of your time. Please don't vote for someone based solely on gender, color, military service or age.


As I said in my other post, there are a lot of gullible people out there who believe anything and everything they read. Do your own research, branch out further than Fox News, MSNBC, NY Times, etc. Educate yourselves!


Because someone is responsible for us being where we are...
people we trusted to be taking care of us, and they sold us down the river. And that is wrong. I would be saying the same thing if it were the Republicans responsible. They have been responsible for other things, sure they have. I am not an id*ot. However, this crisis, this huge crisis we find ourselves in, was completely avoidable. And I believe they should be held accountable. This is a really big deal. We are going to be on the hook for a huge amount of money before this is over. I guess I am the only one who cares how we got here. But I do care.
No, I'm responsible for my own "O"
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You mean the same way O is not responsible for
Rev Wright's sermons, Tony Rezko's shady deals, Bill Ayers actions 40 years ago, Acorn's discrepancies and Blago's corruption?
Yes, because I am responsible I am SOL
Exactly... oh because I have never been late on a payment, you wont help me? I have to be at least 3 months behind on my mortgage? No thanks.

Even though I lost the 50K I put down and I'm in an upside down mortgage (in a west coast state)...

I also bought at the height of the market in an ARM (7 years) with a stated income, probably someone they never should have given a loan to, however I can afford it! For now at least...

Yes it irks me like no other that I can't refinance simply because I've done the right thing.

it is quite disturbing

good luck to you!
Yes, he is responsible...(sm)
He's responsible for cleaning Bush's deficit, 2 wars, an economic meltdown that Bush ignored, etc..etc...etc...
time to grow up - both sides have said things they don't mean or regret or get twisted
There's a whole slew of things everyone has said that they wish they didn't and on important issues. One party is not free from that.

EVERYONE has faults. Whether your democrat OR republican, man OR woman, black OR white. They all have said things they don't mean or didn't come out right, or was totally twisted by the other side. Fact of life in politics.

If your going to go there be prepared to listen to all the things "your" candidate has said in the past. Then you'll whine when someone brings it out.
What........your twisted or hateful idea of truth, grow a heart, okay?...nm
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The owner is responsible for her pet.
I do not hate cats, but I don't particularly like them either.  And I especially do not like doing my puttering in my flower bed and unearthing a nice fresh pile of cat poo.  It's disgusting.  But back to the issue at hand.  Is there a reason why this woman cannot keep this cat in the house?  Other than the fact that she is secretly enjoying this in some perverse way?  It's really pretty simple.  Keep. The. Cat. In. The. House.  Period.
who they hold responsible for what?
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This is about responsible leadership.
No blame game here. That's your job. This is about what Bush did and did not do while the catastrophe was unfolding in front of our very eyes. Your post demonstrates the blind eye you are turning toward the abysmal response on the part of Bush and the feds. Bush was on vacations turning his blind eye. The viewing audience did not turn that same blind eye, and they remember seeing all the local official's pleas for help fall on deaf ears. This is what republicans do. Deny, divert and dismiss in their hurry to make anybody and everybody else responsible for their own failures. All the spin in the world will not change what the American people are smart enough to figure out for themselves. Ask them who failed New Orleans.
Perhaps...as individuals are responsible for the way they act...
and the politics of personal destruction, frankly, suck. No matter who is on the receiving end. And this has been particularly nasty, hateful and sexist toward Palin...but Obama supporters are a different breed. They cut the hide off Hillary in strips too. It is a strange phenomenon.
a responsible American
how about you being a responsible American too and stop blaming EVERYTHING on republicans. Do you think the Dems had no role in the current situation in this country? Take your head out of the sand. There is enough blame to go around for both the republicans AND the democrats. And a responsible American would embrace the freedom of respect the other opinions of other people. We all have a right to express our opinions and be respected for them, not criticized for not thinking just like you.
Democrats are not responsible

for the mess we are in.  It's the republicans and all their deregulation, for one thing.  How about the war in Iraq and the huge deficit we now have?  And then there are the corporate tax breaks. All of those things have contributed to the mess we are in.  The money didn't trickle down, did it?  It only made the top 1% of the people in this country better off.  Those aren't things the democrats have done. 


The republicans made this mess and then they have the gall to turn around and blame the democrats.  Do you know why?  Because there are those out there who don't know better and will believe them.  That's what they are relying on.  The republicans got into office with lies and misleading the public and they are still trying the same tactics.  Hopefully enough people will not buy into it this time. 


No, he's not responsible for anyrthing....
He wasn't responsible for going to Selma, AL of all places and trying to kiss up to them, relating how he was born because of the marches, when the marches didn't even take place until 4 years after he was born.

When I hear Obama say how saddened he is to hear this or better yet, do like McCain who has already taken the time to call this lady's family and care about her well being, then we'll talk.

No black people don't start anything. It's always just the whites. You can believe whatever helps you sleep at night.

It works both ways. Reverse discrimination is alive and well in the U.S. as well.
responsible obama
I sleep at night just fine..as far as Obama is concerned with his going to Selma; I belive that people there are intelligent enough to know what is and is not true regarding his statement; and for those who believe everything he says..that is their perogative...as I said, the Bill O'Reilly's, Pat Buchanans and like of the world can spout bigotry, hatred and division all they want and those who cannot see it for what it is are indeed blind and driven by the same hatred and bigotry that they themselves will never admit to.  I will say that the majority of remarks made here about black people and other minorities have been bigoted, hateful and mean - how do you think it makes me feel when I come here and see remarks like 'towelhead', 'oreo' etc.  Most people say '**gger' is just a word too but you have no idea what it feels like when you are called one - I have experienced this and it feels like someone is spitting in your face and then they slap you. Do you know what it is like to be literally run out of a neighborhood you chose to live in, have your windows broken, cross burned on your lawn, children threatened and even your dog killed because 'your kind' (meaning me) we dont want here?  I know what it is because I have lived it, yet always being mindful of the fact that most people, be they black, white, red, brown, etc - are basically decent people who do not condone this type of behavior yet there are those who think it's okay.  When you have lived through something like this then perhaps you can tell ME something. 
No, it's to make them RESPONSIBLE for themselves!
Can't you read?

Throwing money at them will not help.

Until they start demanding more of THEMSELVES, there is nothing anyone else can do to FORCE them to learn.

(There. I CAPPED the important words for you, seeing as you had a problem comprehending my last post.)

P.S. I'm glad you're not my kid.
Wrong again. I am not responsible for
spreading joy to anybody else who is so miserable that they cannot stand it until they make everybody else around them just as miserable. This sludge has no power over me or what I feel about the amazing transformation we are about to witness in this country, and I intend to enjoy every single moment of it, despite obamaknockers best efforts at killjoy. Like most Obots, I can walk and chew gum at the same time.

Get ready for a compliment. Giving up is the smartest thing you've said all night.
But you are responsible for your own posts, jj. sm
I'm not surprised this "sm" poster was you above. Same tone and defensive style that you have from time to time.


But I personally did enjoy your first post about Baltimore crowds greeting Obama. It was a nice story.


The government is not responsible....(sm)

for shielding kids from everything.  You're right, it is natural curiosity, but realistically you cannot control that.  Kids are smarter than you give them credit for.  If a young boy wants to see a naked female, then guess what?  He'll figure out a way to do that with or without the internet.  What did they do before the internet came along?  It's a waste of time and money for the govt to try to alter the progression of nature. 


And yes, I believe in sex education, but think it is the parents' responsibility to do it.  When a child starts asking questions, he deserves real answers. 


I think the question is, would you rather him learn by you teaching him about these things, grasping what he can from a glimpse at an internet page, or maybe just the girl next door?  It's up to parents to provide guidelines for their children, not the govt. 


BTW, not everyone that looks at porn on the internet is a social deviant.  Curiosty does not end at age 12.


So disrespectful and immature. Ya think GW crashed his Tonka toys into the towers? Grow up
the majority of the Americans. I'm sure you would do a much better job. Meow
Bill Clinton is no more responsible for 9-11 than..sm
you or I am. It is Al quaeda who is responsible.

OK, he didn't take Osama bin Laden when he was offered up by the Sudan. Do you actually think taking bin Laden down would have stopped 9-11. So, Osama was the only terrorist out there. 9-11's plan had been in motion and was much bigger than Osama. Case and point, the fact that this admin. is not even focusing the bulk of their attention on Osama, so that's a mute point.

And I wouldn't try to defend the DEFICIT that Bush has brought to the White House because I'd take a projected surplus over a projected never ending deficit anyday.
Even knowing the Democrats are responsible....
for this mess we are in and going to be on a 7billion dollar hook if they have their way....we are cleaning up THEIR mess...and your Mr. Obama is second on the list for donations from Fannie...he has gotten almost as much in 4 years as some senators in 30 years...even KNOWING that...you want to put him in the White House. How can you possibly ignore that??
Well, the fact that they are largely responsible for...
the problem we find ourselves in right now and the fact that he was 2nd on the donations list from fannie among all senators throughout their careers and he has only been up there what...3 years? I would think that should be enough to apologize for.
Tell that to the democratic congress - they are responsible
And while people are getting laid off left and write the democratic congress who gave the bail outs are not giving back any of the money. And the people who ran FM/FM are not giving back any of the money. And the money that was given for the bail outs but instead the people used it to take lavish vacations and put more money in their pockets are not giving it back, and the DEMOCRATIC congress is not enforcing that they should give it back.
Very responsible and insightful post.
Enough of this childishness already!

We are ONE nation and our nation has elected President Obama. At least give the man a chance to succeed or fail before you crucify him.
Here is responsible lending practices
Canadian banks are typically leveraged at 18 to 1 -- compared with U.S. banks at 26 to 1.



Fareed Zakaria
NEWSWEEK
Feb 16, 2009

The legendary Editor of The New Republic, Michael Kinsley, once held a "Boring Headline Contest" and decided that the winner was "Worthwhile Canadian Initiative." Twenty-two years later, the magazine was rescued from its economic troubles by a Canadian media company, which should have taught us Americans to be a bit more humble. Now there is even more striking evidence of Canada's virtues.

Guess which country, alone in the industrialized world, has not faced a single bank failure, calls for bailouts or government intervention in the financial or mortgage sectors. Yup, it's Canada. In 2008, the World Economic Forum ranked Canada's banking system the healthiest in the world. America's ranked 40th, Britain's 44th.

Canada has done more than survive this financial crisis. The country is positively thriving in it. Canadian banks are well capitalized and poised to take advantage of opportunities that American and European banks cannot seize. The Toronto Dominion Bank, for example, was the 15th-largest bank in North America one year ago. Now it is the fifth-largest. It hasn't grown in size; the others have all shrunk.

So what accounts for the genius of the Canadians? Common sense. Over the past 15 years, as the United States and Europe loosened regulations on their financial industries, the Canadians refused to follow suit, seeing the old rules as useful shock absorbers. Canadian banks are typically leveraged at 18 to 1—compared with US banks at 26 to 1 and European banks at a frightening 61 to 1. Partly this reflects Canada's more risk-averse business culture, but it is also a product of old-fashioned rules on banking.

Canada has also been shielded from the worst aspects of this crisis because its housing prices have not fluctuated as wildly as those in the United States. Home prices are down 25 percent in the United States, but only half as much in Canada. Why? Well, the Canadian tax code does not provide the massive incentive for over consumption that the U.S. code does: interest on your mortgage isn't deductible up north. In addition, home loans in the United States are "non-recourse," which basically means that if you go belly up on a bad mortgage, it's mostly the bank's problem. In Canada, it's yours.

Ah, but you've heard American politicians wax eloquent on the need for these expensive programs—interest deductibility alone costs the federal government $100 billion a year—because they allow the average Joe to fulfill the American Dream of owning a home. Sixty-eight percent of Americans own their own homes. And the rate of Canadian homeownership? It's 68.4 percent.

Canada has been remarkably responsible over the past decade or so. It has had 12 years of budget surpluses, and can now spend money to fuel a recovery from a strong position. The government has restructured the national pension system, placing it on a firm fiscal footing, unlike our own insolvent Social Security. Its health-care system is cheaper than America's by far (accounting for 9.7 percent of GDP, versus 15.2 percent here), and yet does better on all major indexes.

Life expectancy in Canada is 81 years, versus 78 in the United States; "healthy life expectancy" is 72 years, versus 69. American car companies have moved so many jobs to Canada to take advantage of lower health-care costs that since 2004, Ontario and not Michigan has been North America's largest car-producing region.

I could go on. The U.S. currently has a brain-dead immigration system. We issue a small number of work visas and green cards, turning away from our shores thousands of talented students who want to stay and work here. Canada, by contrast, has no limit on the number of skilled migrants who can move to the country. They can apply on their own for a Canadian Skilled Worker Visa, which allows them to become perfectly legal "permanent residents" in Canada—no need for a sponsoring employer, or even a job. Visas are awarded based on education level, work experience, age and language abilities. If a prospective immigrant earns 67 points out of 100 total (holding a Ph.D. is worth 25 points, for instance), he or she can become a full-time, legal resident of Canada.

Companies are noticing. In 2007 Microsoft, frustrated by its inability to hire foreign graduate students in the United States, decided to open a research center in Vancouver. The company's announcement noted that it would staff the center with "highly skilled people affected by immigration issues in the U.S." So the brightest Chinese and Indian software engineers are attracted to the United States, trained by American universities, then thrown out of the country and picked up by Canada—where most of them will work, innovate and pay taxes for the rest of their lives.

If President Obama is looking for smart government, there is much he, and all of us, could learn from our quiet—OK, sometimes boring—neighbour to the north. Meanwhile, in the councils of the financial world, Canada is pushing for new rules for financial institutions that would reflect its approach. This strikes me as, well, a worthwhile Canadian initiative.


JTBB - are you ever going to hold him responsible
For things he is doing. If he's in there the next 50 years (god help us) are you still going to blame Bush. Obama promised things during his campaign. He has broken those promises. Now your saying it's not his fault? Lets blame the previous administration? For promises the O made and has broken? For going back on his word? It's the previous administrations fault???? He said he was not going to do certain things (re: Patriot Act) but now has changed his tune. Helloooooo. This is the O doing this. Has nothing to do with previous administration, but if your going to pull that little stunt, then you must blame the previous administration before that (B.C.) because GW inherited a lot of crap he had to deal with.
Ask the American people who they hold responsible.
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Tell it to the Lone Star. W is solely responsible
More premedicated murder and gestapo police state policies than any gov in history heere. Hope he gets brought up on the criminal charges he deserves so he can get a taste of his own medicine.