No doubt there will be thousands more excuses
Posted By: for him as well.........NM on 2008-11-12
In Reply to: That's the best excuse you have for the - incoming president? pleeeze
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Excuses, excuses - just what I figured.
Funny how it's only congress that prevents the democrats from keeping their promises but when we have a republican president it's always blamed directly on the president.
These issues I mentioned in my original post had nothing to do with congress. These were the O's decisions. He could have voted to repeal the Patriot Act and kept his campaign promise, but he didn't. He could have read through the spending bill before he signed it and gotten rid of the earmarks and kept his campaign promise. But no, these were his decisions.
But since we now have a democratic congress who are you going to blame for that?
Wow! Talk about double standards
Excuses, excuses, excuses!
Just more excuses from the Sammunist party.
Excuses, excuses, excuses........
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Excuses and admissions
You stated you never baited or threw barbs. You didn't qualify the statement. And because someone does it first, does that make it right for you to respond in kind? When my kids were little I used to say that because somebody else does something doesn't make it right.....
The difference between you and I is that I admit I get cranky on this board, I admit I cut and paste from liberal publications at times, I admit I have baited other posters and have problem been demeaning. Not proud of it, but it happens and I acknowledge it. It's out there and can't be taken back, so I might as well fess up. I'm a human and I get irritable.
And yes, we've been through all this - I used to post as Teddy and before that I posted as Observer before you arrived, probably about 2 years ago or more. There's no particular mystery to be solved in any of this.
Do you realize that all you have are excuses
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They will keep on making excuses for him...
I thought that was obvious. lol. It won't be his fault...oh no, could NOT be his fault.
I see. You made excuses for him. nm
Nope...no excuses...(sm)
just pointing that it would be more beneficial for it to have been an Obama leak instead of a Bush leak. What would Bush have to gain from it?
And the excuses begin....
any republican would have been castigated. Your bias is showing. Mine, at least, is out in the open!
Excuses will still be made for him. nm
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This are all excuses, why cannot people just say the TRUTH?,,nm
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THE SAME, lame excuses! It was about the SIZE
and not asked for permission!
What about the thousands of men and women
who lost their lives in that "mistake" that Bush made. Maybe that should be in that post too. I bet their families feel like they had plenty of courage.
There were thousands of voters........ sm
who voted in this election who were not informed or educated on the issues or the candidates. I don't see much of a difference, do you?
tens of thousands dead
and tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi's and 1,744+ brave American soldiers are dead. So..lets see here..Saddam was responsible for killing thousands and Bush is responsible for killing tens of thousands.hmmm..hey, are Bush and Saddam brothers separated at birth..two fools with a thirst for blood? Seems like they are both war criminals. Saddam thumbs his nose at the world community and does what he wants..Bush thumbs his nose at the world community, the International Court of Justice and Geneva Convention and does what he wants..hmmm..they gotta be brothers, well, at least blood brothers.
seems to me thousands spoke this weekend
Seems to me most of the country takes Cindy Sheehan seriously and are behind her 100%. This weekends protests in DC, CA, NY, Ohio and other states prove it..When you look at the anti war protests compared to the pro war protests, tells you what the majority of the country wants..ending of the Iraq war.
The ten's of thousands not covered by media
Perhaps that's why they declared open season on reporters who tried to get the truth out, especially about the heavy-handed police gestapo tactics, all too common in a post 9/11 Patriot Act world (where misdemeanors are ratcheted up to charges of terrorism), riddled with politics of fear and being promoted inside the convention hall.
unless you are talking thousands of friends,
I don't think your sample is statistically significant. Obama has led in the polls except for one week for the entire season. Once the Palin myth was unmasked, Obama bounced right back up. Never in the history of the any country anywhere has someone sustained such a lengthy lead and then went on to lose (if you don't count the last election's fraud).
What about the thousands that died in WWII to
keep us free from the nazi regime/communism? What about the Korean War? They died, too, to keep communism from spreading.
Viet Nam was another story. They died and people here were so outspoken about it (just like it is happening now), and that it brought the moral of the tropps down. When our president pulled them out so quick, all he-- broke out. The Viet Cong and Cambodia armies slaughtered thousands.
Those fighting now mostly support and believe in what they are doing. If the troops are pulled out as quick as O wants, the same thing may happen there. This is why they are trying to get Iraq's military and police set up so another Viet Nam will not happen. Support our troops.
I defend anyone who tried to save thousands of
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Getting ready for all the excuses that cronyism attaches to their colleagues. It's coming soon,
I'm sure. It won't be long before all those Bushites come up with some lame explanations that they think they can use to fool people. Just a bunch of con artists!
Thousands may have been dead at the hands of Saddam anyway, what with
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Bush lied and thousands died!
Reaping the rewards.
torture,-if waterboarding can save thousands of
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The book of Revelations was written thousands of years ago.
Why do you think it pertains in any way to our time and not to the time in which it was written? Why do people think it is some sort of prophecy for their particular lifetime? Does no one study the history of the bible anymore? I am so saddened and appalled by the lack of theological and historical education in churches. If people don't even understand the documents of their own faiths,then there is never any hope for understand people of another faith.
Thousands show up to protest at UN today urging end to war Iraq.
Reuters: By Gertrude Chavez-Dreyfuss
NEW YORK, Sept 19 (Reuters) - Thousands of protesters including former American soldiers rallied outside U.N. headquarters on Tuesday, urging the U.S. government to end the war in Iraq and bring home the troops.
Nearby, about 200 other protesters demonstrated against the presence of the Iranian president, others called for human rights in Myanmar, and just a handful demonstrated to press claims the United States orchestrated the Sept. 11 attacks.
While world leaders gathered at the U.N. General Assembly inside, about 2,000 anti-Iraq war protesters chanted Peace can work, no more war half an hour before U.S. President George W. Bush spoke.
This war has drained the economy and has cost a lot of lives, said Claire Thompson, a nurse and union leader. We're calling on our leaders to end this unsustainable war and just bring the troops back home.
There have been 2,681 U.S. military deaths since the Iraq war began in March 2003, according to Pentagon figures, and 147,000 U.S. troops are serving there. At least tens of thousands of Iraqis also have died in the war.
People in Iraq also want to end the war. We want our country back, said Raed Jarrar, an Iraqi-American who moved to the United States last year.
Iranian-Americans rallied outside the U.N. headquarters, protesting the presence of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at the General Assembly.
I am outraged by the presence of Iran at the U.N. general assembly. I think Ahmadinejad's actions and statements are pushing Iran to war, said Shirin Narunan, a leader of the Ad Hoc Committee to Stop Iran's Nuclear Weapons.
Iran, saying its nuclear program is for civilian purposes, has declined to suspend its uranium enrichment program despite U.N. Security Council demands to do so.
Burmese pro-democracy activists demanded the dissolution of the country's pro-junta organization, the Union Solidarity and Development Association, and the release of opposition leader Aung San Suu Kyi who has been in prison since 1990.
A group of protesters claimed that the U.S. government orchestrated the attacks on Sept. 11. Les Jamison, an event coordinator of NY 911 Truth, said the 9/11 tragedy was scripted by the U.S. government to regain military might.
So the thousands getting laid off weekly are to blame for losing their homes???? nm
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Obama Plan Jeopardizes Thousands of Coal Jobs/his words
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Obama Plan Jeopardizes Thousands of Coal Jobs
Fred Jackson - OneNewsNow.com - 11/3/2008 7:35:00 AM
The nation's coal industry is in shock today with word that Barack Obama plans to put such severe penalties on coal-fired power plants that it will bankrupt them. A coalition of business leaders says such a move would jeopardize the jobs of hundreds of thousands of people who work in the coal industry.
Senator Obama's plan for putting severe financial penalties on coal-fired power plants has been made public on a YouTube video which contains audio of comments he made in San Francisco in January 2008.
"What I've said is that we would put a cap-and-trade system in place that is as aggressive, if not more aggressive, than anybody else's out there," the Democratic presidential candidate said. "I was the first to call for a hundred-percent auction on the cap-and-trade system, which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases that was emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants that are being built, that they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted-down caps that are imposed every year.
"So if somebody wants to build a coal power plant, they can," Obama concluded. "It's just that it will bankrupt them because they're going to be charged a huge sum for all that greeenhouse gas that's being emitted."
A press release from the Western Business Roundtable is calling on politicians of all stripes to denounce such a plan, and encouraging voters to hold those politicans accountable for whether they support the coal industry.
Below is the actual audio - click to listen.
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It wasn't campaign donations that paid for thousands of dollars in kids' travel
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I doubt it. nm
Somehow I doubt that. nm
I seriously doubt that.
Let's stick to reality here, but probably an impossible thing to ask for.
What I know without a doubt is that I don't want...
a party who accepts the kinds of things you post here anywhere near the presidency.
Somehow I doubt that very seriously........
Palin's daughter is just an easy target right now because Obama's girls aren't old enough.... on the other hand with 12 year olds having babies, I guess we won't have to wait long, huh?
I'm sorry you think you are so morally righteous that you have the right to condemn others....
I rather doubt that.
No doubt!
I often wonder how Obama can keep his cool.
It was also pathetic when McCain carried on and on during the last debate about how someone said something unpleasant about him at an Obama rally and he felt Obama didn't stick up for him.
Are you kidding me?!!?
i have no doubt... NM
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somehow I doubt that
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LOL...I seriously doubt that...(sm)
I tend to have that bad habit of going by facts -- not speculation.
I doubt it...
I am qualified to do other things. I do this job so that I can stay home with my kids. I could make more money elsewhere. Also, I never did say that I have easy doctors, just doctors that I am used to. I know what mushmouth things they say. I don't have medical benefits. If I needed them, I would have to do some other kind of work. I just think that it is silly to pay the auto workers more than they are worth because of unions. I understand that you are pro union and all, but there is no need to say that I will clean toilets. Come on Gourdpainter, are you having a bad day?
Oh...there is! Same ones no doubt that put him through
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No doubt.....
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I doubt it, too. (sm)
I expect to be called a bunch of names after people don't even bother to read it or watch the video.
But thank you for such a nice, civil comment. They're hard to come by these days on this board. 
I doubt that this had anything to do with...(sm)
how much he loves his country, much less his race (yeah, you really went out on a limb on that one). What it has to with is what he's teaching the kids. From what I understand he directs his students to his website, which is a conservative web site. That's where I have a problem. We don't need to teach partisan politics in a history class, we need to teach history...the facts.
I doubt they notice.
They are too busy cheer-leading every single thing he does and trashing anyone who disagrees with them. They seem to follow blindly, unquestioningly, and would rather not think independent thoughts. At least that's what they've led me to believe about them. You're absolutely right about Jimmy Carter, too. He does wonderful work with Habitat for Humanity. It's amazing how the group that should be the most tolerant and accepting and loving is the group that is the most ferocious, biting, hateful and angry.
I seriously doubt that is who she had in mind. ...
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I seriously doubt your statistics.
And the truth is, the man whose article you posted has an agenda. I don't listen to things like this from either side. Conspiracy theories are tiresome.
I don't doubt one word you say.
Especially considering Bush's fondness of scare tactics. I don't know if she drinks or not (I've often thought she looked, sounded and acted drunk), which makes me wonder if she might have one too many someday and spill the beans. Either way, she doesn't seem like a very stable person.
I'm sorry about your career. You weren't one of those CIA whistle blowers, were you? We've all seen, through this administration at leas, that honesty in government is a big no-no, and if anyone tries to divulge their dirty tricks, they're lives are destroyed.
I doubt a lot of conservatives were there. sm
True conservatives would not have been caught dead there. Maybe some RINOS.
I doubt you would believe it if YOU saw it. Sigh.
And just because you say it ISN'T so, doesn't make it NOT so, either. :-)
Experience....but have no doubt...
McCain/Palin will bring change with their experience. Just not the kind of social marxist change the dems want to enforce.
I have no faith in any kind of so-called change from any current member of the Democratic party.
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