No, but Illinois citizens are so used to corrupt
Posted By: politicians, they turn a blind eye BUT on 2008-12-11
In Reply to: It's not just liberal politicians. - Zville MT
even this guy has suddenly made them stand up and take notice...... what a sorry crook! He'd probably sell his mother for a buck.
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That was in his Illinois senate term...
this one was in the US Senate. Yeah, he shows up for the important votes like against the Infant Born Alive Act...twice...and now we find out FOR the bridge to nowhere and AGAINST Katrina victims. Still makes me question his judgments and his priorities. Sorry, that is the way I see it.
Forgot to add..Illinois lottery. nm
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When he was the honorable senator from Illinois...
Amnesty is the largest of these rewards and gives illegal aliens a path to citizenship or makes them instantly legal. Senator Barack Obama voted in favor of amnesty for illegal aliens.
Senator Barack Obama has voted in favor of giving illegal aliens further rewards and other incentives to come such as in-state tuition, educational benefits, welfare and health care services.
As have most of the members of his party. And they do it because they want their votes...heck if you were in this country illegally and one of the parties was for giving you everything but the kitchen sink, wants you to be allowed to vote, etc....wouldn't YOU vote for them???
No, I don't blame him personally...although he has to take personal credit since he voted for it...I blame the PARTY. For you to deny it is, in your words...UNFREAKINBELIEVABLE. But then all the Obama worshippers are pretty unfreakinbelievable...sigh.
Illinois isn't the only state with political fraud
The U.S. Attorney brought a case against former Sen. Vince Fumo of PA. He was found guilty today of 137 counts of corruption! They are holding the bail hearing now to see if he should go straight to jail. Even the governor was supoened to testify.
Sure wish they would start an investigation against him, too, as he probably did the same things, especially with the way he takes care of only certain groups. Hope this link works.
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/breaking/news_breaking/20090316_Fumo_judge_allows_Twittering_juror_to_stay_on_panel_.html
My source is the Illinois State Legislature. Gee, do they have a TV show?
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I stand corrected. It was the Illinois Abortion Act of 1975.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=1928&ChapAct=720%C2%A0ILCS%C2%A0510/&ChapterID=53&ChapterName=CRIMINAL+OFFENSES&ActName=Illinois+Abortion+Law+of+1975.
Obama is most definitely corrupt.
I agree....you should have seen Glen Beck last night. Barack Obama is not the person who should be president. The very idea of him being president terrifies me.
Rich does not mean corrupt........
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The (Illinois) Born Alive Infants Protection Act of 2002.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=107_cong_public_laws&docid=f:publ207.107
All this corruption is fueled by the corrupt
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Because the bailout is a corrupt piece of
Most people do not even realize that HALF that money they are stealing from us is going DIRECTLY to foreign investors, i.e., the China
2-step......read up on it. Better yet, I'll send a link... sickens me to no end!!!!!
http://www.carnegieendowment.org/publications/index.cfm?fa=view&id=234
The problem is corrupt organizations
When you have organizations outside city hall going out on the streets and registering people, even the homeless and even those names who are deceased, this sets up a perfect storm for voter fraud. Now, when you have a group such as ACORN which has already had many members indicted of voter fraud, continuing to do this, this will continue to happen.
Matter of fact, over 2500 proven voter fraud registrations have been proven in Indiana as of today. And there will be many many more to come. Democratic election officials are calling them out on this, unlike the "pubs" some ignorant on this board want to believe. Their own democratic officials are blowing the whistle on this and do not understand why this is not being investigated. Corruption all the way to the top is why it is not being investigated. They are now finding this in several other states where ACORN sends out folks, anyone, to coerce people into voting, even if they have already voted.
But those wanting Obama in office do not care that this is taking place, because they know if they want him in office, fradulent voters will have to get him there.
Corrupt Obama caught in the act.
How's this for abuse of power?
While in the Illinois State Senate, Barack Obama sure seems to have played footloose and fancy free with the taxpayer's money, to the benefit of his own circle of family and friends.
A $25,000 grant to his first cousin.
$100,000 for a garden for one of his campaign workers
$100,000 for Father Pflager to badmouth Hillary Clinton from his pulpit.
$75,000 to FORUM, a group who helped Obama pay off the debt from his failed 2000 Senate race.
Yeah, THIS is the guy I'm going to trust with 'changing' the way government does business. 
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=6BA619B2-88A2-4245-8617-AA0A07F47068
Poll: Which is the most corrupt state?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/14/weekinreview/14marsh.html?ref=us
Illinois Is Trying. It Really Is. But the Most Corrupt State Is Actually . . .
3 different criteria based on verifiable facts were used: Convicted public officials, conviction per million residents per year and reporter scores. Illinois failed to make even the top 5, coming in at 7, 22 and 10 respectively.
ND says the only thing corrupt is the story...
N.D. says the only thing corrupt is the story
http://www.bismarcktribune.com.....171625.txt
Dec 12, 2008 - 04:05:31 CST
By BRIAN DUGGAN
Bismarck Tribune
First Illinois. Now North Dakota.
Plenty of head scratching was happening at the state Capitol on Thursday after USA Today ran a story with the headline: "North Dakota tops analysis of corruption."
Where's Illinois federal prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald when you need him?
The story found that, based on the 53 federal public corruption convictions between 1998 and 2007 in North Dakota, there were 8.3 convictions per 100,000 people in the state - the most in the nation. Illinois had 3.9 per 100,000, according to the story, ranking it 18th overall.
A little context: North Dakota has about 640,000 people. Illinois has 12.8 million and 502 federal corruption convictions between 1998 and 2007.
As for North Dakota's company in USA Today's analysis: At No. 2 is Louisiana, with 7.7 convictions per 100,000 people, home to disgraced Democratic Rep. William Jefferson. And No. 3 is Alaska, with 7.5 convictions per 100,000 people, home to the recently convicted Republican Sen. Ted Stevens.
Attorney General Wayne Stenehjem called the article "patently ridiculous" on Thursday, adding among the most recent examples of high-profile federal convictions in North Dakota are the six Twin Butte school district members convicted of misusing school funds.
"I think everyone would agree that a group of local school board officials is far different than a governor accused of selling a U.S. Senate seat," said Stenehjem, referring to Gov. Rod Blagojevich, who federal authorities arrested on Tuesday for trying to profit off of President-elect Obama's vacated Senate seat.
He's the second Illinois governor to wind up with federal charges this decade.
As for the article in USA Today: "This is what happens when you have somebody who takes statistics and doesn't do any analysis or comparison or puts anything into context," Stenehjem said.
While U.S. Attorney Drew Wrigley was unavailable for comment Thursday, other state officials expressed their confusion over the corruption article.
"You gotta be kidding me," Secretary of State AL Jaeger said. "Boy, I've lived here all my life. I can't think of anybody who's been nailed for something."
Russell Mokhiber, Editor of the weekly Washington-based newsletter Corporate Crime Reporter, said his organization ran a similar story in 2004 that pegged North Dakota as a hotbed of public corruption, with 45 federal convictions between 1993 and 2002.
Columnist and former Lt. Gov. Lloyd Omdahl responded with a column in 2004 critical of the newsletter's finding, writing that many of those federal convictions stemmed from American Indian reservations, based on a letter he received from the state's U.S attorney.
"First of all, Indian reservation are not state entities, nor are they political subdivisions of the state, so employees of casinos are not public officials engaged in official public duties," Omdahl wrote.
In the Corporate Crime Reporter's 2007 report, Mokhiber said his newsletter only included the 35 most populated states because of the statistical unfairness on sparsely populated states like North Dakota. The report found that Louisiana, followed by Mississippi and Kentucky, are the country's most corrupt states.
"We learned from our mistake when we crunched our numbers," he said. "What your columnist wrote we took to heart; we agree that North Dakota is not the most corrupt state."
Dana Harsell, a University of North Dakota political science professor, said calculating corruption on a per capita basis isn't exactly fair for states like North Dakota.
"I'm not sure if it gives a true measure of the extent of corruption," Harsell said. "We have one of the most accessible open-access laws in the country."
As for corrupt North Dakota state officials, State Historical Society Editor Kathy Davidson could think of one outstanding North Dakota politician: Gov. William Langer.
He was convicted of federal corruption charges in the early 1930s for diverting federal funds to political matters. He was later exonerated of the charges, re-elected to the governor's office in 1935 and went on to the U.S. Senate and served there until 1959.
So what happened since then? "We've just got boringly honest," Davidson said.
(Reach reporter Brian Duggan at 223-8482 or brian.duggan@;bismarcktribune.com.)
GE corrupt and makes Watergate
http://www.foxnews.com/oreilly/
The O'Reilly Factor.
Will GE get paid for supporting President Obama. GE owns NBC is very aggressive for supporting Obama in the election and now attacking his critics and so on.
It'll only be a disaster (I HOPE!) for all the corrupt
it'll also be a 'disaster' for all the unscrupulous companies in the US that send our work to India. That kind of a 'disaster' has been long awaited, and eagerly anticipated.
US MTSO's better start re-thinking their pay scales, because hopefully their 'sacred' cash-cow (India) is about to run out o' milk.
Incoming junior senator from Illinois Burris more qualified/more experience than Obama...
just the facts, ma'am.
Corrupt liberal democrat Governor arrested.
Of course no surprise here. Why is it every day we see nothing but corrupt liberal after corrupt liberal? This is good though. Why can't liberals just be honest? It only supports the theory that liberals are mentally derranged.
Just look at what US citizens have been through
at stake in this election, not just for us, but the rest of the world. Everyone is on-edge, pissed-off, nervous, angry, fearful, hopeful, etc. You name it, the emotion is out there. It's likely that regardless of the outcome of this election, there will be protests and possibly violence by the losing side. So that's got me nervous, as well. Our entire governent needs a major overhaul & housecleaning.
Anyway, yes, your feelings are accurate, and have mainly to do with our fear for our futures. This election will essentially decide whether I my later years in a modest, (but at least HEATED!) apartment, with some food in the cupboards and a savings to draw on, or whether I spend those years living in a cardboard box underneath a freeway overpass.
Seasoned Citizens sm
To season a citizen you use a dash of salt and pepper, a pinch of Viagra (mycoxaflopin), and a fine sprinkling of "OxyFast."
Have been following the news about Pakistan.
We are all citizens of the world.
The sooner we realize this, the sooner we can put an end to war and try to do something to protect this planet before it self-destructs.
The Majority of Citizens?
Let's see tomorrow morning.
Like containing disorderly citizens? nm
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my children are citizens
they were born in Germany yet they are US citizens and German citizens. They have dual citizenship. they are US citizens and they have a born abroad certificate which is the proof of their US citizenship which is exactly the same as a b/c. you guys crack me up. and no i am not an O fan, but i think that this would have been the FIRST thing that McCain and Palin would have pointed out had all this crap been true.
Yes, concerned citizens can be
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Yes, proposed changes, which citizens cant
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Law abiding citizens don't have anything to worry about...sm
Just the same way a warranted wire tap should not have any problems procuring a warrant. It's too bad you don't see the potential for corruption here(and accusations are already floating).
As far as phone companies passing out private info, you have to give consent for companies to share your private information with other companies legally. That's why we have Consumer Privacy Laws (or is this a thing of the past too? No, really is it?)
There are many Muslim-Americans who are citizens of the US. (nm)
They are eligible to vote in the presidential election and are just as concerned about the important political issues as everyone else in this country!
Citizens are allowed to vote
with any motivation they wish - FOR someone, AGAINST someone, because they had soup for lunch, etc. Supreme Court (hey there's a case someone can discuss) upheld same-day registration and voting. Since they know the constitution and the law, I will trust their judgment.
The election system is OBVIOUSLY sound, because when Ohioans suggested that the Bush reelection count was rigged, they were denounced as conspiracy theorists. One cannot have it both ways.
However, he did not believe that all citizens are equal under the law. Shame on ...sm
you likening BO to Hitler.
Sorry, but according to the law, anchor babies are US citizens - nm
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Pop 8 was vote of MAJORITY of citizens who said NO...
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I never said citizens weren't allowed to vote.
I just do not think that same day register and voting should be allowed. That is my personal opinion and I have the right to have that opinion regardless on how a court ruled on the subject.
Shouldn't the citizens of Alaska take care of that
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Anchor babies are natural citizens... sm
by virtue of being born on American soil, just as the babies of Chinese immigrants or German immigrants or any other nationality are citizens of this country if they are born on US soil. Granted, the influx of illegal aliens from Mexico has created a problem in that it has burdened the welfare system in this country, but that is not the issue here.
The issue is that Obama cannot produce proof that he is a natural born American citizen. The birth certificate floating around the internet purported to be real is a fake. You can find anything on the internet these days, true or not. Just the fact that liberals shoot down every article posted in support of a conservative's point of view as being "not a credible source" is proof of that.
Mr. Obama is well aware of the questions being raised concerning his birth certificate. If he had a REAL birth certificate, why would he just not produce it and put an end to all the speculation? Because he can't, plain and simple. He flew to Hawaii to see his ailing grandmother and "coincidentally" his "birth records" were sealed at the same time. Isn't that interesting?
Mr. Obama lived for 5 years in Indonesia, a country that does not recognize dual citizenship, therefore nullifying his American citizenship IF it ever existed in the first place. There are no records on file where he ever applied for citizenship after returning to the US.
We have to produce birth certificates for our children to attend school today. Why shouldn't the man who would be POTUS have to show his?
Barack Obama is not even legally a black American. He only has one black great-great-grandmother on his father's side while the other 7 were Arab.
That makes him 50% white, 43.75% Arab, and 6.25% black. 12.5% is the minimum required to legally claim any racial status in America.
Obama would qualify as the first Arab-American president, NOT the first black president. That is why they keep saying "African-American" and NOT black because they know he is African Arab and not African black.
Why would you want anyone who has any kind of questionable background leading our country? Would you allow persons of questionable background to teach your children in school? What if that person was suspected of having an inappropriate relationship with a child but it could not be proven? Would you want to run that risk?
I agree that America has more pressing problems that whether the man about to take the helm is a natural born citizen, but do you want someone who is not even an American leading us through these problems?
Because crabby, no matter how greedy the citizens are/were SM
It wasn't just the brokers or just the people who weren't as smart as you not to get an ARM, it was under the leadership of GW......! the lack of leadership. This is why I've called you uneducated, because the information out there about every issue under the sun is there if you care to educate yourself. It's ludicrous to say that someone earned $1500 a month and shouldn't have gotten a $300K mortgage. Your beloved Bush, is the one who PUSHED THROUGH THE ZERO DOWN PAYMENT,,, the worst idea ever.
You're really worried about your fellow citizens?
because if that were the case, you would be asking him why he continues to let illegals and overseas workers with visas into this country to take those very jobs they report are gone.
You don't know any of this is going on because you don't pay attention to anything unless Obama has said it. If he doesn't tell you illegals are taking these jobs, then you'll just pretend they are not. Sorry you don't feel illegals taking our jobs to the tune of 1.5 million right now isn't MORE important than spending more of your money.
Ever stop to think if they didn't have the jobs, Americans would?
That money will go overseas as long as U.S. citizens keep
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No they absolutely do NOT represent the citizens of this country
So pompous and self-righteous.
I think Bush's administration was the joke, since you asked. At least now we have someone intelligent and not self-absorbed.
I suffered through the abomination of the Bush administration in silence. You bet your sweet bippy I'm celebrating Obama's presidency and the return to power of the Democratic party. I hope to GOD I never see the likes of Dumbya as president again!!!
Still not torture. Poilcemen TAZER our own citizens.
Heck, the 'resource officers' at my kid's high school tazed a kid for spitting in the commons area.
Maybe we should just taze the terrorists. I'll bet they'll talk then. When they start sh!tting themselves and going into convulsions, I'll bet they'll cough up whatever info they have.
Plus, it'll save on the Gitmo water bill, and I think we're ALL for that.
It must be hard for you to accept that even the DEMS voted to keep Gitmo going.
Hey, maybe the terrorits could all live at YOUR house. You guys seem to have a lot in common.
the children born here are automatically citizens -
At one point in time, if a mother and father were here illegally and a child was born, the father would be deported, but the mother could stay until the child was 18. I don't know if that has changed or not.
Those things are citizens exercising free speech,
The world they have been living in under the Patriot Act has pushed them into dark corners underground. They are the ones who ended up on the wrong side of that line in the and Bush drew after 911 when he said, "you are either for us or against us."
They all work, just like you and me, but sacrifice greatly for their activism. If you think the coverage you are getting about who they are, what they are saying or where they come from is fair, you are the one who is living on another planet. You skipped the part about police sweeping up reporters and bystanders, beating them up while hosing them down and dragging them away.
Take a look back into history some 30-40 years ago. These same "things" were the guys who marched and protested on behalf of civil rights for blacks and women and against the last wrong war were had. Yesterday's "things, today's authors, senators, congressmen, journalists, etc.
You must have been born AFTER their struggles bore fruit. Otherwise, you would not be so glib and would have no need to ask such inane questions.
Air Force chief: Test weapons on US citizens before using on enemies.
Air Force chief: Test weapons on testy U.S. mobs
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before being used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.
The object is basically public relations. Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions from others about possible safety considerations, said Secretary Michael Wynne.
If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation, said Wynne. (Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press.
The Air Force has paid for research into nonlethal weapons, but he said the service is unlikely to spend more money on development until injury problems are reviewed by medical experts and resolved.
Nonlethal weapons generally can weaken people if they are hit with the beam. Some of the weapons can emit short, intense energy pulses that also can be effective in disabling some electronic devices.
On another subject, Wynne said he expects to choose a new contractor for the next generation aerial refueling tankers by next summer. He said a draft request for bids will be put out next month, and there are two qualified bidders: the Boeing Co. and a team of Northrop Grumman Corp. and European Aeronautic Defence and Space Co., the majority owner of European jet maker Airbus SAS.
The contract is expected to be worth at least $20 billion (&euro15.75 billion).
Chicago, Illinois-based Boeing lost the tanker deal in 2004 amid revelations that it had hired a top Air Force acquisitions official who had given the company preferential treatment.
Wynne also said the Air Force, which is already chopping 40,000 active duty, civilian and reserves jobs, is now struggling to find new ways to slash about $1.8 billion (&euro1.4 billion) from its budget to cover costs from the latest round of base closings.
He said he can't cut more people, and it would not be wise to take funding from military programs that are needed to protect the country. But he said he also incurs resistance when he tries to save money on operations and maintenance by retiring aging aircraft.
We're finding out that those are, unfortunately, prized possessions of some congressional districts, said Wynne, adding that the Air Force will have to take some appetite suppressant pills. He said he has asked employees to look for efficiencies in their offices.
The base closings initially were expected to create savings by reducing Air Force infrastructure by 24 percent. |
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Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/12/usaf.weapons.ap/index.html |
Obama Justice Department Decision Will Allow Non-Citizens to Register to Vote in Georgia
Georgia Secretary of State Karen Handel issued the following statement following the U.S. Department of Justice’s denial of preclearance of Georgia’s voter verification process
Atlanta - “The decision by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) to deny preclearance of Georgia’s already implemented citizenship verification process shows a shocking disregard for the integrity of our elections. With this decision, DOJ has now barred Georgia from continuing the citizenship verification program that DOJ lawyers helped to craft. DOJ’s decision also nullifies the orders of two federal courts directing Georgia to implement the procedure for the 2008 general election. The decision comes seven months after Georgia requested an expedited review of the preclearance submission.
“DOJ has thrown open the door for activist organizations such as ACORN to register non-citizens to vote in Georgia’s elections, and the state has no ability to verify an applicant’s citizenship status or whether the individual even exists. DOJ completely disregarded Georgia’s obvious and direct interest in preventing non-citizens from voting, instead siding with the ACLU and MALDEF. Clearly, politics took priority over common sense and good public policy.
“This process is critical to protecting the integrity of our elections. We have evidence that non-citizens have voted in past Georgia elections and that more than 2,100 individuals have attempted to register, yet still have questions regarding their citizenship. Further, the Inspector General’s office is investigating more than 30 cases of non-citizens casting ballots in Georgia elections, including the case of a Henry County non-citizen who registered to vote and cast ballots in 2004 and 2006.
“It is important to underscore that not a single person has come forward to say he or she could not vote because of the verification process. Further, while DOJ argues that the process is somehow discriminatory, the historic voter turnout among Hispanic and African-American voters in the 2008 general elections clearly says otherwise.
“This decision provides a specific example of the inherently illogical and unfair nature of Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act. It is a sad day for the rights of our state and for the integrity of our elections. I remain committed to continuing the fight for citizenship verification. In the coming days, I will consider every option available to the state, including the possibility of legal action.”
Background:
As required by law and ordered by federal courts in October 2008, the eligibility of new applicants to register and vote is checked against the Georgia Department of Driver Services (DDS) and Social Security Administration databases to ensure that individuals registering to vote report similar information. If information in these databases does not match information reported on the voter registration form, the applicant is asked to clarify the information. Additionally, if the applicant previously reported to DDS that he or she is not a U.S. citizen, that person is asked by a registrar to provide proof of citizenship.
Prior to the November 2008 General Election, Secretary Handel sent letters to 4,771 voter registration applicants whose records at DDS indicated they were not U.S. citizens, asking them to provide documentation of their citizenship. As of March 2009, 2,148 of these applicants still have chosen not to resolve the question about their U.S. citizenship.
In the November 2008 General Election, county election officials reported that 599 individuals cast a challenged ballot because the voter had previously indicated to DDS that he or she was not a United States citizen and had not resolved their status with county officials at the time of the election. Of those, 369 ballots were accepted because the voter provided documentation of their citizenship after the election; and 230 were rejected because the individual chose not to confirm his or her citizenship status.
On October 10, 2008, activist organizations including the Mexican-American Legal Defense and Education Fund (MALDEF) and the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) filed a lawsuit to attempt to prevent Georgia from verifying the eligibility of applicants to register and vote in the November General Election, including whether those individuals were citizens of the United States.
On October 16, 2008, U.S. District Court Judge Jack Camp denied the motion by MALDEF and ACLU; directed the State to continue the verification process; and acknowledged the State’s requirements to verify information under the Help America Vote Act. In his order, Judge Camp stated:
HAVA requires that Defendant Handel match information in the statewide voter registration database with information from the Georgia DDS and the SSA databases “to the extent necessary to enable each such official to verify the accuracy of the information provided on the applications for voter registration.”
Judge Camp also stated: ...
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