Nice to see positive posts about her.

• Rasmussen poll results: - sam
  • Another Thought - Linda
    • I agree, Linda...time will tell. Polls kinda take a pulse... - sam
      • I couldn't agree more sm - Refreshing is right
        • Nice to see positive posts about her. - People should give her a chance.nm

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The more McCain/Palin's ratings are going up, the more the democrats are panicking, and the attacks about Palin are becoming more vicious - AND nobody is posting anything positive about Obama, like "I'm really excited about his health care plan or his energy plan or his housing fix plan or 100 other reasons we should be voting for someone.  No, nothing positive about him...AND I'm not even hearing anything negative against McCain's plan.  It's just vicious rumors, lies, and conjectures about Sarah Palin.  Let's see.  I've heard she hunts, she's for killing innocent soldiers and civilians in Iraq, she has a tanning bed, her daughter's pregnant, she didn't answer questions the way you would answer them (which in all fairness to her the interview was a bait & trap situation - especially when half the country was asking "what part is he asking her about?").  So for all those who say she didn't get it, neither did half the country (but those must be the people who cling to their guns and religion).  Let's see...what else.  She's selling her baby on e-bay, the father of her daughter's baby is skum, she believes in God, etc, etc.  Oh yes, the best one was someone didn't like her because she is pretty and was in a beauty pagent (although I can't decide whether that is the best or that someone believes she was selling her baby on e-bay).  Yet you refuse to list any of her good qualities like she cut out pork spending, she balanced the budget, she stands up to the big guy, she gave refunds to all Alaskan citizens who paid too much in money to the oil executives, she's smart about energy and she's for drilling here in the states (which will cut our gas and oil prices in half), and the numerous other good things she has done.  I've heard she's not experienced (but you won't admit that neither is Obama). Then of course when someone posts something positive about her you jump down their backs and are just really nasty.  And then what kind of comments do I hear about McCain?  He doesn't use the computer (someone was actually complaining about him not sending out emails himself on September 11th), and someone else was making fun of him because he doesn't comb his hair.  I hear that and think that there are people who have small minds.  He can't do either because he was beaten without mercy and he can't lift his arms up to do these activities (and you have the audacity to make fun of him for that?)  But you know what?  At least he can still put his hand over his heart when the pledge of allegience is being said and the national anthem is being played. 

You know, if your going to say something negative about someone at least have a comeback with something negative that is halfway intelligent and counter it with something positive from the candidate you support.

And for petes sake, use John McCain's real name, not the phony acronyms you like to use.  He was in a POW camp for five years beaten til near death every day.  He's earned the respect to at least call him by his real name.  Whether or not you hate him so much, he is not Bush and he is not more of the same.  His policies and voting record proves differently.  You can't say he voted the same as Bush because Bush doesn't vote.  Anything that's been voted on that you want to blame Bush for you need to take a look at the democrat congress.  Their the ones voting, and its the democrats who have stopped the impeachment hearing for Bush.  Why????  McCain's policies, health care plan, his reform plan, his economy plan, and everything else about what he will do when he becomes president is different than what Bush has done.  Bush is Bush, McCain is McCain.  If anyone is to be compared to Bush it would be Obama because the people who are directing Bush are also the same group that is directing Obama.

So, can we please be civilized adults, and come up with hard facts before accusing one candidate of something that is obviously false.  Stick to issues and no rumors.

By Karen DeYoung
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, November 30, 2008; A01

Adm. Michael Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, went unarmed into his first meeting with the new commander in chief -- no aides, no PowerPoint presentation, no briefing books. Summoned nine days ago to President-elect Barack Obama's Chicago transition office, Mullen showed up with just a pad, a pen and a desire to take the measure of his incoming boss.

There was little talk of exiting Iraq or beefing up the U.S. force in Afghanistan; the one-on-one, 45-minute conversation ranged from the personal to the philosophical. Mullen came away with what he wanted: a view of the next president as a non-ideological pragmatist who was willing to both listen and lead. After the meeting, the chairman "felt very good, very positive," according to Mullen spokesman Capt. John Kirby.

As Obama prepares to announce his national security team tomorrow, he faces a military that has long mistrusted Democrats and is particularly wary of a young, intellectual leader with no experience in uniform, who once called Iraq a "dumb" war. Military leaders have all heard his pledge to withdraw most combat forces from Iraq within 16 months -- sooner than commanders on the ground have recommended -- and his implied criticism of the Afghanistan war effort during the Bush administration.

But so far, Obama appears to be going out of his way to reassure them that he will do nothing rash and will seek their advice, even while making clear that he may not always take it. He has demonstrated an ability to speak the lingo, talk about "mission plans" and "tasking," and to differentiate between strategy and tactics, a distinction Republican nominee John McCain accused him of misunderstanding during the campaign.

Obama has been careful to separate his criticism of Bush policy from his praise of the military's valor and performance, while Michelle Obama's public expressions of concern for military families have gone over well. But most important, according to several senior officers and civilian Pentagon officials who would speak about their incoming leader only on the condition of anonymity, is the expectation of renewed respect for the chain of command and greater realism about U.S. military goals and capabilities, which many found lacking during the Bush years.

"Open and serious debate versus ideological certitude will be a great relief to the military leaders," said retired Maj. Gen. William L. Nash of the Council on Foreign Relations. Senior officers are aware that few in their ranks voiced misgivings over the Iraq war, but they counter that they were not encouraged to do so by the Bush White House or the Pentagon under Donald H. Rumsfeld.

"The joke was that when you leave a meeting, everybody is supposed to drink the Kool-Aid," Nash said. "In the Bush administration, you had to drink the Kool-Aid before you got to go to the meeting."

Obama's expected retention of Robert M. Gates as defense secretary and expected appointment of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton as secretary of state and retired Marine Gen. James L. Jones as national security adviser have been greeted with relief at the Pentagon.

Clinton is respected at the Pentagon and is considered a defense moderate, at times bordering on hawkish. Through her membership on the Senate Armed Services Committee -- sought early in her congressional career to add gravitas to her presidential aspirations -- she has developed close ties with senior military figures.

Some in the military are suspicious of "flagpole" officers such as Jones, whose assignments included Supreme Allied Commander at NATO, Marine commandant and other headquarters service, and who grew up in France and is a graduate of Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service. But Jones also saw combat in Vietnam and served in Bosnia.

"His reputation is pretty good," one Pentagon official said. "He's savvy about Washington, worked the Hill," and at a lean 6-foot-4, the former Georgetown basketball player "looks great in a suit."

Although Jones occasionally and privately briefed candidate Obama on foreign policy matters -- on Afghanistan, in particular, as did current deputy NATO commander Lt. Gen. Karl Eikenberry -- he is not considered an intimate of the president-elect.

But as Obama's closest national security adviser, or at least the one who will spend the most time with him, Jones is expected to follow the pattern of two military predecessors in the job, Brent Scowcroft and Colin L. Powell, who injected order and discipline to a National Security Council full of strong personalities with independent power bases.

Although exit polls did not break out active-duty voters, it is virtually certain that McCain won the military vote.

In an October survey by the Military Times, nearly 70 percent of more than 4,000 officers and enlisted respondents said they favored McCain, while about 23 percent preferred Obama. Only African American service members gave Obama a majority.

In exit polls, those who said they had "ever served in the U.S. military" made up 15 percent of voters and broke 54 percent for McCain to 44 percent for Obama. "As a culture, we are more conservative and Republican," a senior officer said.

Obama has said he will meet with the chairman of the Joint Chiefs as well as the service chiefs during his first week in office. At the top of his agenda for that meeting will be what he has called the military's "new mission" of planning the 16-month withdrawal timeline for Iraq. Senior officers have publicly grumbled about the risk involved.

"Moving forward in a measured way, tied to conditions as they continue to evolve, over time, is important," Mullen said at a media briefing four days before his Nov. 21 meeting with Obama. "I'm certainly aware of what has been said" prior to the election, he said.

The last Democratic president, Bill Clinton, clashed with the chiefs during his first sit-down with them when they opposed his campaign pledge to end the ban on gays in the military. The chiefs, some of whom held the commander in chief in thinly veiled contempt as a supposed Vietnam draft dodger, won the battle, and Clinton spent much of his two terms seen as an adversary.

But Mullen came away from the Chicago talk reassured that Obama will engage in a discussion with them, balancing risks and "asking tough questions . . . but not in a combative, finger-pointing way," one official said.

The president-elect's invitation to Mullen, whom Obama previously had met only in passing on Capitol Hill and whose first two-year term as chairman does not expire until the end of September, was seen as an attempt to establish a relationship and avoid early conflict. While some Pentagon officials believe an Iraq withdrawal order could become Obama's equivalent of the Clinton controversy over gays, several senior Defense Department sources said that Gates, Mullen and Gen. David H. Petraeus, head of the military's Central Command, are untroubled by the 16-month plan and feel it can be accomplished with a month or two of wiggle room.

These sources noted that Obama himself has said he would not be "careless" about withdrawal and would retain a "residual" force of unspecified size to fight terrorists and protect U.S. diplomats and civilians. The officer most concerned about untimely withdrawal, sources said, is the Iraq commander, Gen. Ray Odierno.

Even as the Iraq war continues, defense officials are far more worried about Afghanistan, where they see policy drift and an unfocused mission. With strategy reviews now being completed at the White House and by the chairman's office, an internal Pentagon debate is well underway over whether goals should be lowered.

Although Gen. David McKiernan, the U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan, has requested four more U.S. combat brigades, some Pentagon strategists believe a smaller presence of Special Forces and trainers for Afghan forces -- and more attention to Pakistan -- is advisable.

Bush's ideological objective of a modern Afghan democracy, several officials said, is unattainable with current U.S. resources, and there is optimism that Obama will have a more realistic view.

A number of senior officers also look with favor on Obama's call for talks with Iran over Iraq and Afghanistan, separating those issues from U.S. demands over Tehran's nuclear program.

One of the biggest long-term military issues on Obama's plate will be the defense budget, currently topping 4.3 percent of gross domestic product once war expenditures are included.

Obama has said he will increase the size of the Army and the Marine Corps, finding savings in the Iraq drawdown and in new scrutiny of spending, including on contractors, weapons programs and missile defense.

"They know the money is coming down," a Pentagon official said of the uniformed services, and many welcome increased discipline.

But it's neither the military's nature nor its role to volunteer the cuts, the official said. "It's for Congress and the administration to say 'Stop it.' "

Polling analyst Jennifer Agiesta and research Editor Alice Crites contributed to this report.

When a woman gets attacked by a man with knife, do you condemn her because she didn't fight back hard enough?I say condemn the attacker, not the attackee....you attack folks and then condemn them because there feelings where hurt instead of addressing the real problem which is your bullying. 

This comes from the same pinheads who were absolutely certain that Rush would go outta business when Clinton got elected.  Yeah, right!  20 million listeners at least, and HOW many hundreds of millions later?

And y'all actually think Keith Overbite & Mr. Potato Head actually discuss news seriously when 1 has crabs or something crawling up his leg?  And give up the opiates re Rush.  He fixed that problem, but didn't do the resume enhancement like the celebutards do.  Start that empty crap & I'll just keep listing their names.

And just to clarify things, in case anyone didn't catch the post about the NAGS, that's Rush's pet name for the National Assn of GalS.  I knew I wasn't the only Dittohead on the embarrassment of a board.

Face it. Y'all have nothing to offer here, just empty insults and thrills over women "choosing" to kill babies.  That's the only definition y'all have of "choice."  Funny, but I thought choice was supposed to mean that the woman decided either way. Nice try once again.

I take you comparing me to Sam as a compliment though as I do value a lot of the same opinions.

However, once again, instead of actually coming on with facts and trying to prove an actual point, I find someone who just spats out anything.  I was not the one who started this post.  I was just stating my opinion and sharing some experiences I've had raising horses and what has happened in the past when deer hunting was not allowed.  Those are things that I have seen first hand. 

Doubt that will happen, but my husband and I could pay off the house we just built, have money for the kids college education, etc. 

Our economy is in a bad way, so what does "O" do?  Raise taxes!  What on earth are y'all thinking!  So taking $ from you to give to someone else makes sense?

This is comparable to the women who went totally nuts over the Beatles! 

Check your taxes for 2007, 2008, then 2009.  The facts will speak for themselves.

Just more white guilt, too, which is also pitiful.

Yeah, that so-called nutjob recently signed another long-term contract (7 years, I believe) for how many millions?

I never miss his show. 

Have you ever actually listened to his show?  You'd like his official Obama Criticizer, Bo Snerdley.  You can find clips on google. 

When I got married, we used his theme song to announce the wedding party at the reception

informal setting.  Every pol goes for a photo op once in a while, just to remind you they are around.  I enjoy seeing him smile and interact with people.  He makes me smile.  God Bless America, how fortunate we are to have him at this time in history.

follow the rules of this board, but some apparently think they are above the rules.

The two posters you pointed out are not the only ones who call other posters names, especially in the last week or so that I've noticed, but the instead of falling into the argumentative mode, you need to ignore their posts.

economy is in ruins, we have spies interfering with our electronic grid, our president bows to the Saudi King, every country still hates us even with Obama's major butt kissing and you are concerned about Levi and Bristol?  Who cares.  How many teenagers really stay together even when there is a baby involved?  This isn't a matter of national security.  It is a teenage girl who screwed her boyfriend and got knocked up and then they broke up.  Like that never happens anywhere else in the world.

I personally couldn't care less if Levi and Bristol broke up.  Who cares?  If you like teenage drama, you might want to watch the N channel and get your fill with Degrassi or something and keep this nonsense off the political board.

Sending pics as proof?  That's hilarious....I'm absolutely sure they would be of you...ROFL.

Sorry, but your little ploy to make it look like that was an acceptable joke to the black community is just simply not working.

Maybe you should do some research next time.

Sending pics as proof?  That's hilarious....I'm absolutely sure they would be of you...ROFL.

Sorry, but your little ploy to make it look like that was an acceptable joke to the black community is just simply not working.

Maybe you should do some research next time.

With respect to the 10% tax, I still think $9,000,000 of disposable income goes a lot farther than $9,000, and 10% of $10,000,000 is just a drop in the bucket, compared to 10% of $10,000.

Anyway, my understanding of the "Fair Tax" is that it isn't based on income.  It's based on "consumption." It's (my paraphrasing) a federal sales tax instead of a federal income tax.  And spending up to the poverty level is tax-free, with their "fair tax rebate."

So if someone can afford to buy that 2006 Ferrari, they can also afford to pay the tax.  If someone can only afford a $500 1989 Mitsubishi, they will probably not have to pay any tax if it is considered under the poverty level.

This only addresses federal government tax issues, though.  It doesn't even begin to touch state, county and local taxation.

And from what I've read, I haven't heard what percentage of tax they are proposing. 

So I'm still not sure which I'm leaning towards.  I'm actually sort of swaying between the 10% and the "fair tax."

Nice to see you here, thanks for the invitation, and I agree.  We should debate here.

Below is from the Protestwarrior website or else "RNC Watch":

Although the Protest Warriors usually make a big deal about how they have been the victims of leftist "violence," several of their recent bulletin board posts advocate carrying concealed weapons to demonstrations at the RNC. "I would bring pepper spray," writes one. "I will be utilizing my concealed weapons permit," writes another. "We should be prepared for violence," writes a third. These posts are similar to the infamous CraigsList NYC posting of more than a year ago in which a New Yoker wrote that "We need good old fashioned Conservatives, the kind that believe in God, Country, and Family (the Mom and Dad kind), the kind that played football, baseball, and basketball, to help with security [at the RNC]. This is totally separate from the organized Convention. We will meet the groups determined to disrupt the open discussion of ideas (the Convention) with a group of our own and battle them in the streets of New York."

You can also see picture of the founders of Protest Warriors lovingly cradling high-powered fire-arms on the PW website. "ProtestWarrior HQ is now heavily armed," the site operators write.

(Picture Caption: The Founder of Protest Warriors) Recently, a small media stir was created by a tiny, right-wing fringe group known as the Protest Warriors.

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Or take a look at this link:

ProtestWarrior Forum Index » Now that's Entertainment » Pictures guaranteed to terrify liberals Goto page 1, 2, 3 ... 125, 126, 127  Next    View previous topic :: View next topic  Pictures guaranteed to terrify liberals Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:50 pm Alan Site Admin Location: Austin, TX Gender: Male We recently drove out to San Angelo, TX to meet up with our good friend Chris, a Marine who offered to take us out shooting and teach us the finer points of peace through superior firepower. http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_08.jpg Chris has some GREAT bumper stickers on his car. http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_01.jpg "Phased plasma pulse-laser in the forty watt range... " "Just what you see, pal." http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_03.jpg Chris brought a wide selection. Everything from 22s to 357 hand cannons. http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_02.jpg "Leftist troll 12 o' clock." http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_04.jpg Can you tell I'm a big John Woo fan? http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_07.jpg When I hold you in my arms And I feel my finger on your trigger I know nobody can do me no harm Because happiness is a warm gun... -Lennon/McCartney http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_11.jpg You feeling lucky, punk? http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_10.jpg Is there anything sweeter than the sound of shotgun shells ejecting? http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_05.jpg Chris is one guy you do not want to f--k with. http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_09.jpg Chris was kind enough to loan us some weapons to take back with us, so thanks to him ProtestWarrior HQ is now heavily armed. So to all the leftists that want to completely disarm the populace, all we have to say is come get some. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:56 pm BPond Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Total posts: 7833 Hell yeah! Those are great photos! Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 3:56 pm OB_one Location: Virginia (Northern Neck) Age: 72 Gender: Male Great Pics Alan. Looks like you two gonna become real "badasses" Thanks for sharing. OB Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:14 pm Orange Jewce Location: Washington, DC Age: 18 Gender: Male http://www.protestwarrior.com/images/misc/guns/guns_11.jpg Somebody who knows how to doctor images should write "PWNAGE!" right across this sweet picture. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:15 pm BOgg Gender: Unknown great pictures, shows what you stand for. War and violence. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:17 pm TheInfragableKrunk Joined: 31 Jul 2003 Total posts: 14052 Location: Washington, American Empire (AE) Age: 20 Gender: Male Actually we stand for peace via superior firepower. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:18 pm Alan Site Admin Location: Austin, TX Gender: Male BOgg wrote: great pictures, shows what you stand for. War and violence. BOgg earlier wrote: One thing's for sure, prepare for your in-home (usa) war, too much opposition is growing and its gonna blow in your faces. If bush is re-elected, ill be the first to assassinate him. Yeah, we're not peace-lovers like Bogg. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:21 pm Moderate Centrist Location: Neve Dekalim, Gush Katif Age: 29 Gender: Male Alan, you guys are heros. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:22 pm Orange Jewce Location: Washington, DC Age: 18 Gender: Male Alan and Kfir, Why can't you ban that pseudo-poet, Straight Outta Here, He wants it and you know it! Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:22 pm Be nice. LMAO. xx So nice to see you back! I hope you had a great getaway.  Unfortunately, as you can see, nothing has changed here.  You continue to be attacked/stalked, even when you're not here!  I personally missed you and wish I DID know you in real life.  I'd be very proud to call you friend.  Anyway, I'm very glad to see you back and look forward to reading your posts because you always add something of value, unlike some people who only come here to be rude and start trouble. I'd say they were raised by wolves, but wolves have better manners and values. Now, now, dear, it's not nice to lie.  I said no such thing. And one of the other voices in your head has already judged me and declared that the Rapture will pass me by, which is fine with me.  Would prefer to spend eternity with those who are nice, loving, kind and HAPPY.   It was very nice while it lasted. Can't say I'm surprised, though.  They must be busting at the seams by now.  Nice web site Very many thanks for a good work. Nice and useful. Like it! © Copyright 2001-09 MTStars.com All Rights Reserved