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My, my. Feeling a little grumpy this morning?

Posted By: jj on 2009-01-06
In Reply to: You mean 14 days....you still can't count - no wonder he got elected

Hope your petty snipes make you feel better.


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Ooh, grumpy!
Catch up in RepubliConese: Tired of hearing the Dems win on this one, so change the subject darn it!

On our own board too, tsk tsk.
I found the comments on Morning Joe this morning

about Palin rather disgusting.  A bunch of overweight old men talking about how hot she is, the feelings (implying those sexual type of feelings) they get when 'near' her in person - Pat Bucanan (spelling?) jokes to stay away from his girlfriend.  It was like watching men talk about Playboy centerfolds.


Where are all the women who normally attack that type of behavior?  This woman has a husband, children.  The fact I would never vote for her does not stop me from being completely nauseated at how they disrespected her. 


Should this type of talk be accepted regarding a presidential candidate at all, period? 


Is she beautiful, yes. Is she funny, yes.  Is she a hunter who kills animals, yes.  I appreciate all of those things, but someone who cannot get men to respect her...that would be worrisome in a serious job or say, running an entire country, we are told is in crisis.  Not so sure I understand what is so 'gosh-darn' funny about it.


Just my feeling
To the republicans that have posted today on the liberal board..I enjoyed reading your posts..They were thought-worthy and kind of telling a bit about the posters.  I hope and wish we can keep this board as an insightful debating board..Cause, let me tell ya, the bickering and anger, displayed from both sides, just kills me..it upsets me so..You have my word, I will try my best and If I stray into nastiness, both liberals and republicans, please call me on it..
I know the feeling..its like we are
in a paralel universe to America (like in Mirror Mirror for you old Star Trek fans:) Its scary. I keep waiting to hear Rod Serling say something about the Twilight Zone..and it just gets worse all the time.
I had a feeling you did......sm
so I gave you a little nudge....was pretty sure you wouldn't be keen on that one....

:-)

feeling better?
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Bad feeling?
Well then by all means put another "cowboy" only this time a Military Cowboy in the white house and see what that does not bring.  Maybe if someone would sit down and talk to our enemies instead of throwing bombs on them we could actually get something done in our own country.  I don't like McCain's attitude, reminds me of my grandmother - look at them, decide you don't like them and walk away.  It is time to put differences aside and come together - whether he is a smooth talker or not, at least people are talking.
Wow, feeling a bit touchy are we? After all...
Excuuuuuze me for asking.
My main feeling is that we are
somehow purposely being herded through a squeeze shoot - by the time we have lost our jobs and insurance, we will be more than happy to accept socialism. none of this bail out is going to trickle down this far; in fact, we are the source of money with our pennies and dimes so they can have bonuses and vacations. When I got laid off last year, it was the first time in over 21 years that I had thanksgiving, christmas and new year's off. Reliant Energy in Houston is for sell. UTMB Hospital in Galveston just laid of 3800, they are the largest employer in this county. Everybody can't be bailed out. Buckle up, everybody.
Ask Mrs. Bridger.....I have a feeling she knows; that's why
nm
I have the cure for your feeling.
If my posts make you uncomfortable, by all means don't read 'em.

Guy goes to the doctor and says "Doc, ya gotta help me. It hurts when I do this". Doctor says "Well then, don't do that!"

Get it?


Far be it from me to talk you out of your feeling of unfairness. sm
However, posts have been deleted on both boards.  There are two specific posters who are targeted by the liberals repeatedly (and you quoted one here).  Besides, liberals are sissies. This whole thing is like holding your breath until you turn blue because you can't have your way!  How do you exist in other political forums.  Most of the ones I frequent would laugh me off the board.  My last post here. This is just beating a dead horse.
Trust your instincts, know the feeling.sm
Even scarier, some people (sheep) will believe this.
So, ho wlong have you been feeling this hostile
some might conclude that the candidate with a double-digit lead would be the stronger of the two, but that logic evidently escapes you.
I just get the sick feeling in my stomach
that we are screwed either way. Neither of them have the answer. I don't care for either of their plans. All I have left to go on is which of their morals line up more with mine, and that's Mccain/Palin. I have tried to find the "hope" in Obama's plan, but the fact that the first thing he will do is sign the right to choose act when he becomes president just doesn't sit well with me. I just can't vote for him knowing he will do that. It goes against everything my faith stands for. Blast me all you want, but I am a Christian first, American second.

If we could just mush them together we might have a good candidate! We need the bionic man doctor....
I have a feeling that his plane is leased and when...sm
the campaign is over he will have no need of it for he will be flying in Air Force One. You are right about his income though. His Senate salary is miniscule when compared to the royalties from his books.
By me too - glad you're feeling better!
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I have a feeling they just want their 15 minutes of fame.

Lately, people will do anything to get their own "15 minutes of fame." That's why you have so many reality shows.


I think it's all despicable and they should not have shown that on TV. Now every other "15 minute" famer will do something on the same order to see if they can get in the newspapers or on TV. Watch and see. There's still 6 days left.


Obama gives me a bad feeling, like he's a scheister,
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I had a feeling he would talk to McCain.... sm
I think he has a lot of respect for McCain.
Sheehan Feeling the Glare of the Spotlight

Some Are Focusing Anger on Protester



By Michael A. Fletcher
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 17, 2005; Page A03



CRAWFORD, Tex., Aug. 16 -- Cindy Sheehan rode into town 10 days ago, a forlorn mother with a question for her president: Why did my son die in Iraq?


But now the same wave of publicity and political anger that she rode to become a nationally known symbol of the antiwar movement threatens to crash down on Sheehan herself.







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Cindy
Cindy Sheehan hugs a supporter at her protest site in Crawford, Tex. Conservatives have criticized her, and she says some sympathetic groups have agendas she does not share. (By Jason Reed -- Reuters)



Conservative commentators and Web sites are taking aim at Sheehan with the same ferocity she has aimed at President Bush. In part, they are using her own words against her -- reciting such controversial comments as her vow to refuse to pay taxes to a government waging an "illegal" war and her desire to see Bush impeached.


The backlash is becoming a new object lesson in how saturation media coverage and the instinct for personal attack are shaping political debate. Some independent commentators said the pushback on the right has succeeded at scuffing the public sympathy and deference she had earned as the mother of a fallen soldier, and has shown how virtually any subject relating to the Iraq war and Bush's presidency is viewed through a partisan lens.


"Cindy Sheehan has emboldened the progressives who oppose the war and caused the conservative diehards who are behind the war to go into a defensive mode," said Michael Harrison, publisher of Talkers magazine, a trade publication for talk radio. "Cindy Sheehan is going to be a target, and they'll probably go through her past to find what they can to discredit her."


Since her son, Casey, 24, was killed in Iraq last year, Sheehan, of Vacaville, Calif., has traveled the country trying to drum up opposition to the war in Iraq. She has participated in peace conferences, demonstrations and a mock congressional hearing about the "Downing Street memo" -- notes of a meeting with British Prime Minister Tony Blair and his top advisers that said the Bush administration had decided to go to war and molded intelligence findings to support that decision.


In that time, Sheehan, 48, a soft-spoken woman who says she was radicalized by her son's death, has engaged in her fair share of inflammatory rhetoric.


"It's obvious Cindy Sheehan has become a political player, whose primary concern is embarrassing the president," Fox Television personality Bill O'Reilly wrote Tuesday in an online column. "She is no longer just a protester."


Bush, Sheehan said, lied to the American people about the war and should be impeached. She is refusing to pay taxes in hopes that the Internal Revenue Service will come after her to collect. "I'm not supporting a government that wages an illegal, immoral war," she said. "I want them to come after me, so I can put the war on trial."


Still, she said some of the statements attributed to her are distortions. Contrary to a letter attributed to her that is circulating widely on the Internet, she asserts that she has never said that the United States is waging the war in Iraq to protect Israel.


"I have said a lot of strong things, and I'll stand by everything I said," Sheehan said, adding that she thought the document had been altered. "But I didn't say that."


The scrutiny that has accompanied Sheehan's quick rise to prominence has extended to her family. Several in-laws have publicly criticized her protest -- announcing their displeasure in a release to the Drudge Report. News that Sheehan's husband, Patrick, has filed for divorce has been trumpeted by some bloggers as evidence of her extreme views.

Sheehan acknowledges that some of her views are becoming a distraction. Also, she said, some groups that have aided her protest have agendas -- including conspiracy theories about the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, and some vaguely anti-Semitic theories about the cause of the war -- that she says she does not share.

Consequently, she has asked that her campsite near Bush's ranch be restricted only to organizations of military families, or those who have lost loved ones in the war.







"

"Attention got focused on the messenger and not the message," Sheehan said. "My thing is ending the war in Iraq. But there are a lot of people who want to attach their horse to my wagon, because of the exposure I'm getting."


The increased scrutiny of Sheehan is coming as some residents here are growing irritated with the stream of antiwar protesters drawn to her vigil.


On Tuesday, a spokeswoman for Sheehan announced plans to move the camp from the drainage ditches next to the winding road about two miles from Bush's 1,600-acre spread to a field on a ranch offered by one of Bush's neighbors. The new camp would be about a mile from the president's ranch. All that would be left behind at the original site would be three tents and hundreds of white wooden crosses bearing the names of troops killed in Iraq.


The move followed complaints by about 60 of Bush's neighbors, who petitioned McLennan County officials to expand a no-parking zone around the camp, in an effort to avert the traffic tie-ups that have become commonplace as the protest has grown. Also, Monday night a truck dragging chains and a pipe demolished some crosses; the driver, Larry Northern, 46, of Waco, Tex., was charged with criminal mischief.


Sheehan has promised to remain encamped throughout Bush's five-week stay here and to return whenever the president does. She also announced plans for a series of nearly 1,000 candlelight vigils Wednesday night across the country. Liberal advocacy groups MoveOn.org Political Action and Democracy for America are organizing the protests.


"All of this other BS just clouds my message," Sheehan said. "My message is that of a brokenhearted mom sitting down in front of George Bush's ranch, wanting to know why my son died."


I'm feeling safer and securer. I don't know about you...JOKE! --NM
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Ever get the feeling this is a proxy war between Bush and Iran?

Bush sent weapons to Israel.  Iran sent weapons to Hezbollah.  Bush must have figured that Americans wouldn't tolerate any more of his wars, so we're fighting Iran through Hezbollah via Israel.  Reminds me of a chess game.  I think this is the fault of Papa Bush.  He should have given Georgie more GI Joes to play with as a kid.


Now that there is an agreed cease fire, Israel is stepping up the offensive.  (Any surprises here?)  I wonder how many more innocent people they will kill in Lebanon - including Christians - and how much more of Lebanon's infrastructure they will destroy before they finally cease their fire.


I have a feeling that Ditzy is emptyjoy from last night?
for some reason Ditzel sounds a lot like mtjoy... just saying nothing but insults
I have the same feeling. I hear the background noise already nm
nm
What about feeling the baby move inside your body? sm
So the baby I felt moving in my tummy at 20 weeks gestation wasn't alive?
See message about spelling and superiority feeling inside sm
I do feel superior now when it comes to spelling and grammatical skills Shelly/Kendra. I also feel superior that my candidate won, while all along you two were saying he wouldn't. I feel very smart, very smart indeed. Good night MTs.
Your mistaking feeling duped/foolish with hatred
They are two totally different things. I really really really do not hate the guy. I voted for him in the primaries. We were on the phone battling with our families cos they were for Clinton and we were trying to tell them about the Os plans, issues, etc.

We like that the O is a nice looking man, has a nice looking family, has a good strong voice when giving speeches, is physically fit (minus his smoking and possible cancer that lies ahead for him) and especially glad he will not be throwing any "rodeos" for foreign diplomats that come to our country.

However, once he was elected over Clinton the truth started coming out and we felt like quite the fools for buying into his lies. And now his lies are just blatantly out there and he doesn't care if people know he's lying. Our only ignorance was blindly buying into his bull without doing more research on him. The O worshippers/lovers who are cutting down people who have any question about his acquantances, history, citizenship, etc are the ones who are showing their true ignorance. My DH tells me all the time read everything and do not count on one source for information. They have an agenda. Knowledge is what will free the mind.
This morning on TV,...
...I heard that so far, there were 325 Palestinians dead and TWO Israelis dead.  (I realize this figure is no longer accurate, but I bet the ratio still is.)
This morning on TV,...
...I heard that so far, there were 325 Palestinians dead and TWO Israelis dead.  (That was about 18 hours ago, and I realize this figure is no longer accurate, but I bet the ratio still is.)
Sat. morning laugh
Anybody interested, watch the short animated video at:

http://www.batemania.com/bateman365/day009.html

It only takes a few seconds, it's really funny....until you think about it too long anyway.


My thoughts this morning

I don't know why I find certain posters/postings so darn disturbing.  I know in my heart they do NOT represent most right-wingers.  I have two very close friends who are right-wingers and quite a few acquaintances.  These folks in no way resemble the posters I refer to.  I also know they are pretty much a lunatic fringe.  I know I should just ignore them....but I can't sometimes, especially when I see postings that are so grievously factually erroneous (i.e., this country takes care of its poor - which I might add in many ways this country TRIES to help its poor but there is still much to be done).  I just think I could address these factual errors without becoming personally embroiled. 


The up side is that I learn so much from the research I have ended up doing as well reading some of the eloquent and inspiring posts I have seen on this board.  That by itself is worth a lot.


Yesterday I felt my blood pressure rise and felt sick to my stomach for a while.  But at sunset I took my three ill-behaved dogs-of-uncertain-heritage for a walkl in a snowy woods out here in the boonies where I live and my appreciation for the world that l am able live in came back to me....and I mean my own personal space, my mental place as well as geographic world. 


good morning

Get a cup of coffee or juice and enjoy....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiJk6MeBx54


 


I can't find it either....this morning....sm
I saw a .pdf file and when I clicked on it for the new bailout plan as worked out by the Senate, nothing came up on my screen. It was blanked out. Now it isn't there, so it may still be evolving, I dunno.

What I did hear on one of the money talk shows this morning , is that the bill is now up to something ridiculous like 450 pages long. I cringe if I try to wonder what all it does and does not contain.


However, one bright spot in this bill is that it sounds like they are going to get rid of the mark to market rule (dunno if it's going to be temporary or permanent). But from what I understand, that little thing alone, getting rid of the "mark to market" will free up money for all banks to want to begin the lending process again. This is a very, very good thing.

Oh, did you finally get out of bed this morning? nm
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I can only tell you what my feelings were this morning...sm
when I saw CP on Meet the Press. We already knew from the lead in that he was going to support one candidate or the other. I respect him so much that I was praying he would endorse Obama but had no real feeling of which way he would go. I listened to what he had to say and felt his pain that he was a republican through and through but just could not endorse McCain. He spoke of their friendship over many years and how much he respected him but could not abide the far right direction and the negative tone that the campaign had taken. He said he is an American first and thinks that Obama is better for America than McCain.
Morning backatcha, Dee
I'm on my way out the door campainging for the restoration of the local grist mill that dates back to the 1830s.  Maybe I was born 100+ years too late.  LOL
Well, I usually watch the morning

news shows local and national,then a few others after that, but they're all yaking about it. It just seems like the news doesn't have any news. Don't get me wrong. They do it with every little story. I counted 2 weeks at least on little Caylee, then nothing. I counted more than that on the 911 tragedy. After a few days of any news story, it gets really old.


How can the O be painting a room. Doesn't he have all kinds of celebrations/parties/speeches to make somewhere?  I thought the three days was going to be spent doing that before THE day.


And that's why I vented this morning.

Of course, I was awake for a couple hours, so I had my coffee and was wide awake when I heard that. LOL


I'm a little calmer now, except I'm now listening to C-Span and they are debating the SCHIP program, about increasing the program. I have to turn it off pretty soon. I can feel my BP going up again with some of the asinine remarks being made by certain members of the senate that don't want to wait to debate or discuss the amendments CAREFULLY. Some want full disclosure of the cost and amendments, others think it's not necessary. What jerks!


wow, nasty this morning,,,

in our area there are people struggling but not to the extent that seem to be here on this board every day. Certainly don't live in a glass house; have struggled before in the past and have figured out a way not to. We are in a fortunate situation at the moment and have taken steps to ensure that we will be okay financially should the rug be pulled out from under us; so be it if that is considered snooty. Bash away as is your style; it humors me.


Got a call early this morning, was
not truly awake when I answered the phone, and my stepson stationed in Japan gave me the dreadful news, news I NEVER wanted to hear...he is going to Iraq.  My husband was not here when I received this horrifying news, he was working the midnight shift.  My stepson said not to tell his dad, that he would tell him.  So here I am, with husband now sleeping, and he still does not know that his son is nearing the time of deployment to this God-awful, senseless, maniacal, perverted, ill-fated, unjustifiable war in Iraq where innocent Iraqis by one hundred thousand and American by the thousands are dying because WHY???? Someone please give me an unabashed truthful, reasonable answer as to WHY we are even there?!  You must know that when the Bush admin even started talking about invading Iraq, I was 100 percent against it. I knew our presence there would only enrage, create a hornet's nest of more terrorists and fanatics, and lead to devastation for WHAT!?  To get rid of Saddam, to get the oil, to enrich Halliburton?!  None are good enough reasons to kill people.  This murdering bunch of thugs who are *elitists* sitting on their money, getting richer on the lives and deaths of our American troops....It's all too much for me.  As I said, I have been against this war before troops were even deployed, and my son has to go....very very sad day for us.  I pray for all those have gone before my son, and pray to the dear Lord that this will all end soon.  God forgive this prez for all the killing and misery he has caused for nothing, NO THING!
Thanks for the reminder....went first thing this morning....
and you are right...every vote makes a difference, just like every "non" vote. Have a great day!
Here is an issue that I just read this morning. sm
McCain says he opposes using federal $$ for teen pregnancy prevention programs and Palin had said she opposes funding sex-ed programs in Alaska.

I'm not a conservative, but not a total liberal either as I don't believe in abortion - so, what do the conservatives think of this. Do you agree or disagree? Please don't start with the bashing each other, I am sincerely curious and am not trying to get a rise out of anyone.
I saw Biden in an interview this morning....
he got realll agitated when confronted about an issue they really did not want to break. Talking to a reporter and he almost got loud. They are not on the run, but they are definitely concerned. The debates will be verrryyyy interesting.

To Biden's credit, though, he was almost snarly to the press for sexism and attacking Palin's family. Much more forceful about it than Obama. Good for him!
The little experiment I conducted this morning...
proves my point.  The attack "machine" on this board will attack anyone who posts in opposition to them...whether I post as Indy Observer or as sam.  It makes no difference.  So changing the moniker means nothing.  It is not the individual poster; we are all lumped together as the "great evil."  lol.  Sigh.
Did someone miss their morning meds?...nm


This endorsement happened this morning....

She formally announced she is supporting McCain and will campaign for him.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/16/prominent-clinton-backer-and-dnc-member-to-endorse-mccain/


I heard this morning it was over $850 billion...
with added stuff...one particular one I saw was for wool research and wooden children's arrows of all things. The Republicans did manage to get some tax cuts in there that will help to a point so that maybe not so much of the $700 billion will have to go out...because people will be encouraged to invest again. A drop in the bucket probably, but at least a try. Now it has to go back to the house and no telling what they will want to add. The bill went from what was posted on the internet (about 10 pages I think) to 450+. Sigh. THAT kind of experience we don't need anymore of. Bring on Sarah Palin. I wish we could replace every member of congress with common sense folks like Sarah Palin. THAT is change I can believe in. I am sick to DEATH of Washington Politics as usual.

As to Dodd and Frank...I hear that! Not willing to accept one iota of the blame when they should have all of it. And where is the mainstream media? Out to lunch? Can you imagine what will happen to this country if Obama is elected, with a Democrat majority and mainstream media cover? What is WRONG with people? Hellooo. Sigh.
should have watched good morning
actually biden may have answered questions and he didn't need palin to point out they were not factual.... good morning america sure did though.
I had a post removed this morning . . .
for whatever reason, I guess someone didn't like the fact that I posted about SP being brought up on investigation again for her crooked dealings!  Then I got an angry response from someone about not posting political viewpoints on this board!!  Why is this post allowed to stay, and mine was taken off?  I guess freedom of speech is only allowed for the one side!!
good morning, gourdpainter
another day, another pub.