My disdain for you and your ignorance
Posted By: Is enormous on 2005-10-13
In Reply to: Gee, Democrat, if your uncle wants to come HOME, - Lilly
How DO you live with yourself?
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Disdain? I could think of a few other choice descriptives.
Yes, I know you are not registered republican. But you are most definitely the definition of a modern conservative. You like to pretend that you are different than who you really are for the simple reason of applying it to your arguments which tend to sway in the wind depending on where the pressure is coming from. You are just as guilty as I in jumping on my posts without reading them thoroughly and lambasting them. The difference between us is that I post my liberal views on the liberal forum. You post your conservative views on the liberal forum.
If the conservative government is so righteous, and it is only through conservative politics that our country has thrived, do you feel the need to constantly defend it? This has gotten so far from my original post it's ridiculous. If you are so opposed to liberal ideas, why do you bother reading the posts? and why do you feel the need to constantly rebut them?
Perhaps because you are nothing more than afraid. Afraid of intellectual difference. Afraid of the possibility that your convictions are wrong, and because you can't face that possibility, you are compelled to discount it. Discount it as hyperbole. You cannot deny the fact that all of the major changes in the course of US history is based on liberal ideas. Just because they were inacted during a conservative government, does not make it is a conversative idea. It simply means that society wanted it, and Washington couldn't ignore it anymore. It is called progressive society. Things can only remain stagnant for so long, and then a liberal idea is pushed forward.
These posts are the epitomy of why our country is going down the tubes. You are so busy trying to force your ideas on people that don't want or need them, you create unnecessary dissension. Just can't leave well enough alone. Because we think different and you don't understand it, you have to try change it, and when you discover that you can't change it, you discount it as ignorance. Because this or that country is not democratic, we have to change it. Not realizing that those type of changes cannot come from the outside and be sustainable, but that change needs to come from inside. We as a government have not embraced cultural, social, or economic differences. This is why the Middle East is against western ideas. We keep pushing it on them through ultimatums and sanctions, forces from the outside. They need to come to the idea on their own, and if they don't, we have to respect it. We don't have to like, nor do we have to change it.
Ah, the piglet post of disdain...
I can always count on you.
If you had read the post a little closer, you would have seen that I said that John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson did NOT run from war...the word "except" is the big one you missed. You might try reading the whole thing and understanding it before going off on me...but you are so eager to do the latter you won't take time to do the former. John Kennedy put all the players in Nam including helicopter support and Green Berets on his watch...Johnson picked up the ball after Kennedy was assassinated. So he actually started it.
That being said, other than that ill-conceived venture...I think John Kennedy was a good President and a decent man, and if liberals now were more like he was then...suffice it to say I would understand them much better.
You keep saying conservative party. There is no conservative party that I know of. I would agree that the Republican party right now is NOT conservative (at least the upper level politicos) and I have said that numerous times...and I am not a registered Republican except at primary times...as I have also said numerous times. Selective memory, piglet?
And I don't really CARE if you want to call emancipation a LIBERAL idea, and voting for African Americans and women LIBERAL ideas. You can say that until you are blue in the face. It was conservatives who put them into motion, made them work, and they are sustained today. Abraham Lincoln was as conservative by description as there is. He was a deeply religious man and a deeply moral man. His opposition to slavery was on the basis that it was a deeply moral wrong. Until the government got into the social programs business, the majority of programs geared toward the poor and disadvantaged were...GASP...religious programs, also prompted by a deep moral provocation from a place of humility, to serve the needs of the less fortunate, and they did a good job of it. And you can say those are LIBERAL ideas, but they were put into action by CONSERVATIVE people. Ideas are fine, but ACTIONS are what counts.
You have very little tolerance for anyone who does not share your beliefs. No wait..I take that back. Zero tolerance. lol.
Wouldn't say ignorance is bliss. Ignorance
is the reason why we had Bush for 8 years, and ignorance is why people will vote PalinMc.
Disagree. Ignorance is ignorance. n/m
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Ignorance......
Well, you certainly should not feel ignorant. The entire problem is lack of knowledge about what has really caused this. We do want to blame the corrupt business practices, but we should at least understand where it all comes from.....
I have posted a complete explanation of the Federal Reserve below and I hope you take the time to watch it. It is 42 minutes long but this is why so many feel they don't understand the problem. This is in a nutshell the root of the problem and why we need to get away from paper money.
I'll post the video site again. This should be taught in all classrooms in high school and again in college and they all should be made watch this to better understand.... taking the time to watch means better understanding and should mean outrage that we have gotten to this point and allowed our government to screw us over.......for decades and decades
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-466210540567002553
Ignorance
Look what has happened to this country in the last 8 years. If any of you can say honestly that you are better off, let's hear it. Otherwise, pin or no pin, hand across heart or not, we need a change. Not saying that either party would work miracles for this country is in shambles and it will take decades to have it back as it was before the W and his rich friends took everything away.
your ignorance is showing...
Your ignorance is showing...
Ignorance is bliss....
....as the saying goes, however, in the Obama posting above it's more like ignorance equals hatred and intolerance. I personally think this country really really needs someone like Obama desperately. We are, after all, a melting pot of races, cultures and religions, not a country run solely by rich white men with laws created to help the rich white men get even richer.
It's ignorance like that -----that can really screw up
I don't care if there what or who was in there as long as they are qualified, and qualified she is NOT
Like I said.......... DESPERATION and ignorance
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Ignorance on a rampage.
shove this where the sun don't shine
There's only so much ignorance that a body can take
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Really? Well, your ignorance of thinking O has any
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my ignorance is showing!
Can you tell me what is ACORN? And what are the voter fraud issues with it? Sorry, but I just don't know this stuff and trying to get informed. I found some conflicting info while trying to do some research and alot of stuff I didn't understand so can someone break it down to simple terms for me? Thanks.
WOW - I guess ignorance IS
not only bliss, but
BLIND,
DEAF,
and incredibly DUMB.
'Senator Obama was very cordial' while McCain had an 'evil grin.' Geeze, lady, maybe open BOTH eyes next time.
Your idea that Obama is for the middle class because he's promising his BS ྛ% of Americans will get a tax break' is a delusion built on a lie.
Why don't you take a minute to look it up? Or are you too busy polishing your Obama presidential seal commemorative plates?
Under Obama's plan, about 43% of American taxpayers would get a ONE-TIME-ONLY tax REBATE of $500. (Less than the $900 Bush sent out this year.) And, get this, for the 42% of Americans who pay NO TAX AT ALL, Obama's going to give them a $500 check just for the heck of it. So you, sweetie, typing away at your desk, will be forking over part of your income tax to give a little gift to peolpe who sit on the fannies watching baby daddy dramas on the Maurie show and rolling their doobies on Welfare.
I'd much rather have McCain's $5000 credit for buying my own health insurance, plus his higher child tax credit.
It's a lie every time he calls this REBATE check a tax decrease. It's a lie counting the 42% of Americans who don't pay tax ANYWAY into the percentage of people who will pay less tax. You don't have to be a rocket scienctist to know that you can't pay less tax than ZERO.
Maybe you want to fall for it. But don't pretend that you don't know your candidate is full of hot air.
Ignorance is voting for someone you think? will help
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Are you kidding? Another example of ignorance. nm
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Ignorance and bigotry are something to be
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Is ignorance your only area
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You are so wrong ...another example of ignorance
First of all, not one of Obama supporters has threatened to riot for not voting for him. Secondly, Democrats have way too much class to act like mindless, bloodthirsty fools -- I believe you missed all the incidences of McCain supporters being worked up into the hate-mongering mobs that became so common at their rallies. I personally have been saying for weeks that I was afraid of the backlash from the crazy fanatics blindly following McCain, and that I fully expected there to be some riots on that side of the fence. Lastly, I do not personally know one Democrat (and I know a lot) who have defected to the other side, whereas, there have been many, many longtime, famous, staunch pubs who want to distance themselves from the cartoon characters that McCain and Palin have become. I mean, you guys are the ones that just love, love, love your guns!! You guys want to talk about ACORN, so stupid. Have you not heard about McCain's bullies at the voting centers trying to intimidate people into not voting for Obama? And let's not forget those Robo calls. If it weren't so despicable, I could almost feel sorry for him . . . NOT!!
Sometimes I'm appalled at the ignorance and
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Sure seems to be a lot of ignorance around here today.
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Speaking of ignorance....(sm)
I just love it when people try to wallow around in righteous, indignant self pity. If you're so concerned about the plight of the Jewish people, why don't you go and help out your grandmother?
Ask yourself this question. Since Great Britian and the UN thought so highly of Jews as to actually declare them a separate nation, why didn't they create that nation in Europe? My guess is that there were 2 reasons. Number one would have to be the *not in my backyard phenomenon.* The other was simply as a controlling interest in the region. The reality is that Britian didn't give a rat's butt about the Jews. They just picked the most susceptible minds (at the time) to carry out their plans. They sold the idea of backing Isreal through religion and still do, just like the US does. One big clue to this is exactly how much we actually back Israel. We have brought them up to the level of nukes while they are still just fighting against homemade bombs. We (the US) look the other way when Israel kills hundreds of Palestinians, but will run a prime time special if 2 (not 200, just 2) Israelis are killed. Yeah, that's a fair fight. We back other leaders in the middle east, but only to a point (Saddam for example). Once they get to a point where they may actually become a threat to Israel (a holding interest for the west) we always manage to call them a threat for some other reason and level the playing field.
I really wish people would look at the big picture on this one. From a political standpoint, Israel is nothing more than a bishop in a chess game.
Right, ignorance is bliss for some.
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Smothered by ignorance......
by ill-informed punkinheads who pretend to know something about our political situation. Just spewing the same worn out talking points that don't amount to squat.
Don't confuse Ignorance
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Ignorance abounds.......
I didn't vote for GW. I'm not in to all that dem/rep stuff like you obviously are. I am sick to death of paying for lazy people, while my own husband who works his butt off can't get the medication he needs because it is too expensive but those same lazy moochers can go get medical care at my expense, all paid for by Medicaid. Just because you don't like the facts, does not mean they aren't there.
It doesn't take a mental giant to see what's right in front of your face, just someone who grew up seeing it and is tired of looking at it.
Yes, your ignorance is amazing....
It is true - food stamps get spent and stimulate the economy more than anything else. When we have millions without jobs right now - don't you think they deserve to eat? Probably not. You probably still live with mommy and daddy.
Ignorance abounds
Seems like you're leading the pack!! Do you ever work or just complain on this board all day? 
The ignorance that still abounds in the US
Times change, but organized religion remains mired in the Dark Ages. And I suppose YOUR laws still claim that the world is flat. Well, just don't get too close to the edge, you might just fall off.
There is ignorance on both sides here.
As a Christian, I would appreciate it if people would leave this type of subject out of our children's education. It is not unreasonable to ask since we have given up God and prayer in the schools to accommodate those who do not believe.
There are some people who will ridicule the act as well as the person as you can clearly see when we get on the subject of homosexuality. But you cannot group all of us into this category. I do not agree with that lifestyle but having no reason to treat them poorly. That is what I want to teach my children. We may not agree but we cannot be mean to them.
However, I cannot stand by and allow the teaching that homosexuality is okay. It is too controversial of a topic for that to be taught in schools.....just like religion. I can teach my children acceptance of people without teaching acceptance of a lifestyle we don't agree with and I would appreciate it if schools wouldn't undermine my authority on that subject.
You don't see me going around forcing religion on children who I know has parents who don't believe in God and don't want their kids hearing about God.
I sense a little ignorance on your part, you say they are no more pro-war
than God, but then you defend them posting up pictures with guns draped around their necks. I'm trying to follow you here.
Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
Just take a look at this administration.
Give up on trying to reason with this MT person. When she still doesn't get it - even when her actual words are presented to her - this is not a normal mind.
Your ignorance and hatred know no bounds. nm
It must be nice living in ignorance. sm
You are certainly entitled to your opinion; however, you don't speak for any majority anywhere. None of us do. You have obviousy not done any research at all into what adult or embryonic stem cell research can and cannot do, what they wish to do, and the dire consequence that have been predicted for stem cell research, including brain tumors.
Good for you! My sentiments exactly. What ignorance. nm
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If ignorance is offensive, then yes. You do offend. nm
your ignorance is amazing -and O will bankrupt the
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YOur ignorance and racism is showing
OBAMAJAD? Could your side please give the "he's a Muslim" chant a rest?
Or do you enjoy looking stupid?
I know my ignorance is showing, but what is ACORN? nm
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How sad you find ignorance refreshing.....
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I don't find ignorance refreshing
There was nothing ignorant in that post. I agree with oldtimer that the hate being spewed at McCain's and Palin's rallies is scary. And I don't like the fact that they are encouraging it. I am afraid for Obama. He's a good, decent, honest man and there are a lot of crazed people out there.
Your ignorance speaks for itself. Can;t stoop low enough
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And you are a prime example of the dem's overwhelming IGNORANCE!
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Ignorance like this has its place, I suppose.
Canadians are smart enough to figure out that your voice is coming from he far right fringe and is in no way representative of post-Bush America.
The hate and ignorance that will set us all free
in the wrong direction. As for that Ayers judgement "issue," Powell has that in spades and that is why his endorsement was appropriate in this context. Beyond that, I think that policy on critical national issues deserve a look-see as well and for the life of me, I can't understand why McCain/Failin campaign thinks distraction and culture wars do nothing constructive other than to support Obamas statements early on in the campaign about division and unity.
Unbelievable, ignorance abounds. nm
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The depth of this ignorance is inconceivable.
For starters, countries do not adopt children, people do. He was adopted by an Indonesian man. It does not matter whether he was an Indonesian adoptee with Indonesian citizenship, a Kenyan descendent with an American mother who was conferred Kenyan citizenship or whatever you else you think you have up your sleeve. He is still an natural born citizen. How do I know this? Because I have dual citizenship. It makes no difference to the United States government that I have that. I still vote, pay taxes, serve on juries...the whole 9 yards. As a matter of fact, the US is so protective of citizenship status, they make it very difficult to renounce...which I am sure the fringers will try to argue somehow before it's all over. This entire discussion may work OK in the Land of Oz, but for those of us who are living in the real world, no soup for you.
Can't ge past the ignorance of the first sentence here.
the constitution is not a static document and is, in fact, a living, dynamic, changing, vital document. To wrap you brain around this concept, consider this. The orignal Constitution contained 10 amendments. Amendments 11 through 27 commenced over time as such: 1795, 1804, 1865, 1868, 1870, 1913x2, 1919, 1920, 1933x2, 1951, 1961, 1964, 1967, 1971 and 1992.
There. You see? The (progressive) authors of the constitution in their wisdom provided the mechanism of amendement, that would allow for change and growth. That makes it a living, breathing, dynamic document. Got it?
Next time you try to interpret Obama's book, watch your step.
Be careful, your ignorance is showing!
What a stupid judgmental thing to say. Once again, proves my point about the quality of people supporting McPalin.
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