Must be not. Double standard applies. Crickets.
Posted By: nm on 2008-10-19
In Reply to: So, in the same respect, - sm
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No, actually I don't have a double standard...sm
But there is one, especially since Bush and Co. made such a big deal about flip flopping in '04. I remember the exact words from the debate about Kerry. *Kerry was for it [the war] before he was against it.*
I guess the same applies to Bush on the immigration bill that he was for. Again, just sayin'.
Double standard, indeed.
It all depends on whose ox is being gored.
No double standard
We're not forcing your children to pray or even attend church. Our children are being forced to have homosexual teachers teach them this crap and even have "Days of Silence" to "honor" a perverted practice. Our children can't even mutter the word "God" without getting expelled. Double standard--my asscream.
No double standard here. I am not a
religionist. I practice no religion. Christianity is not a religion. It is a relationship with Jesus Christ. Put down religion all you want. I'll agree with you.
Want to tackle Catholicsm? Islam? Hindu? Buddhism? Scientology? Global warming? Emergent church? Contemplative spirituality? Any other of the myriad religions?
Okay...let's talk about the double standard...
on both sides of the aisle. Let's talk about Teddy Kennedy. Let's talk about several members of the Kennedy family where influence peddling got them out of more severe cases than you are describing here. He is still in the senate and will be until the day he dies, probably. It is funny to me how people can see the splinter in the other guy's eye but not the timber in their own.
What about the Clinton double standard? What about the Obama double standard of dealing with a slum lord (and knowing it) and at the same time castigating other slum lords in Chicago? That seems pretty hypocritical to me, but I avoided it until the tear up Cindy McCain stuff started. You guys act as if the McCains invented using wealth to get out of legal problems. I refer you again to the Kennedys...
Good grief, people.
I see the double standard is alive and well....
I see.
I was just illustrating the double standard....
which is glaring. Obama's pastor doesn't matter but hers does...and try to justify it by saying Republicans are in the spotlight this week. Good grief....do you hear yourself? lol
There's that pesky double standard again.....nm
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You're right, it is a double standard.
They should ALL have term limits.
JTBB is all about the double standard
In JTBB's world, a conservative has no rights!
Doesn't the double standard bother you?
It's not her addiction that bothers me it's the stealing and the double standard by her husband. McCain puts other people in jail and rips apart families for drug crimes. I bet there are at least 100 infants in foster care in AZ right now because their mom tested +.
I don't think I understand the double standard here for Palin...
Palin says Obama is "just" a community organizer and unqualified for the job, but we aren't supposed to say anything about her unbelievable lack of knowledge. She showed that all by herself w/o the help of the campaign.
She tried to tie Obama to terrorists and says he's a socialist, marxist, and I don't even know what all else. And yet she should not have any scrutiny when she has video out there of her with the witch doctor.
Fox News can take a video of a fist bump between PRESIDENT-ELECT Obama and his wife and call it some kind of terroist signal, and MSNBC is not supposed to point out just how ridiculous this is?
Fox News, yet again strikes and plasters a bottom of the screen banner over video of Michelle Obama calling her a "baby mama," and we aren't supposed to question Palin's fifth child that was soooo questionable.
If you want to be mad at somebody about talking about Sarah Palin, try the republican party. They are the ones who ruined her. They are the ones talking about how much her clothes were. They are the ones talking about the show up at the door in a towel incident.
I didn't hear any of you complaining when there was a joke about Obama....what's up with that?
Double standard is right... and loves to call other
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Nope, and I realize trying to point out the double standard...
to a Democrat is an exercise in futility but I thought I would give it a shot....
Yeah, the double standard is pretty amazing. nm
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Double standard doesn't cover Obama
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More crickets, I see
Still no facts posted, just a lot of emotions and negativity. It never ceases to amaze.
As for the birth certificate issue, if it was a real issue people, don't you think that Hillary or someone in McCain's camp would have raised a flag by now, but not a word is heard... Desperation is not pretty.
Nothing but the sound of crickets....
I got this from the conservative board, one of their faves. Tee-hee.
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Are those crickets I hear? nm
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Sounds like those crickets you hear...(sm)
when you ask pubs for an alternative to the stimulus plan...ROFL. When you come up with a credible source for your claim you'll get an answer.
Sounds of crickets and cobwebs forming on this board
I wonder if this applies to....... sm
folks who live in mobile homes. I bought my doublewide almost 13 years ago not anticipating that I would shortly be a divorced mom with a mortgage along with all the bills previously paid on both our incomes. I could afford the house at the time, but it is getting harder with each passing day and it doesn't take much of an emergency for me to have to miss making a mortgage payment. I play catchup all the time and with the rising cost of utilities and groceries, I'm barely treading water.
this applies also to you...I do not care
if O received his Islamic teachings BEFORE or after he attended the CATHOLIC school hours!
Tolerance applies except to the Christian right
then the gloves are off. Christians are not to be tolerated unless they are willing to *embrace* not just *tolerate* other views and/or lifestyles.
my post above applies also to your comment..
The flag outside the building shows enough patriotism, and I am sure that there are office policies.
Something interesting re Eliot Spitzer. It applies to now. sm
Eliot Spitzer wrote this editorial in the Washington Post 3 weeks before they politically assassinated him.
Predatory Lenders' Partner in Crime
How the Bush Administration Stopped the States From Stepping In to Help Consumers
By Eliot Spitzer
Thursday, February 14, 2008; A25
Several years ago, state attorneys general and others involved in consumer protection began to notice a marked increase in a range of predatory lending practices by mortgage lenders. Some were misrepresenting the terms of loans, making loans without regard to consumers' ability to repay, making loans with deceptive "teaser" rates that later ballooned astronomically, packing loans with undisclosed charges and fees, or even paying illegal kickbacks. These and other practices, we noticed, were having a devastating effect on home buyers. In addition, the widespread nature of these practices, if left unchecked, threatened our financial markets.
Even though predatory lending was becoming a national problem, the Bush administration looked the other way and did nothing to protect American homeowners. In fact, the government chose instead to align itself with the banks that were victimizing consumers.
Predatory lending was widely understood to present a looming national crisis. This threat was so clear that as New York attorney general, I joined with colleagues in the other 49 states in attempting to fill the void left by the federal government. Individually, and together, state attorneys general of both parties brought litigation or entered into settlements with many subprime lenders that were engaged in predatory lending practices. Several state legislatures, including New York's, enacted laws aimed at curbing such practices.
What did the Bush administration do in response? Did it reverse course and decide to take action to halt this burgeoning scourge? As Americans are now painfully aware, with hundreds of thousands of homeowners facing foreclosure and our markets reeling, the answer is a resounding no.
Not only did the Bush administration do nothing to protect consumers, it embarked on an aggressive and unprecedented campaign to prevent states from protecting their residents from the very problems to which the federal government was turning a blind eye.
Let me explain: The administration accomplished this feat through an obscure federal agency called the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC). The OCC has been in existence since the Civil War. Its mission is to ensure the fiscal soundness of national banks. For 140 years, the OCC examined the books of national banks to make sure they were balanced, an important but uncontroversial function. But a few years ago, for the first time in its history, the OCC was used as a tool against consumers.
In 2003, during the height of the predatory lending crisis, the OCC invoked a clause from the 1863 National Bank Act to issue formal opinions preempting all state predatory lending laws, thereby rendering them inoperative. The OCC also promulgated new rules that prevented states from enforcing any of their own consumer protection laws against national banks. The federal government's actions were so egregious and so unprecedented that all 50 state attorneys general, and all 50 state banking superintendents, actively fought the new rules.
But the unanimous opposition of the 50 states did not deter, or even slow, the Bush administration in its goal of protecting the banks. In fact, when my office opened an investigation of possible discrimination in mortgage lending by a number of banks, the OCC filed a federal lawsuit to stop the investigation.
Throughout our battles with the OCC and the banks, the mantra of the banks and their defenders was that efforts to curb predatory lending would deny access to credit to the very consumers the states were trying to protect. But the curbs we sought on predatory and unfair lending would have in no way jeopardized access to the legitimate credit market for appropriately priced loans. Instead, they would have stopped the scourge of predatory lending practices that have resulted in countless thousands of consumers losing their homes and put our economy in a precarious position.
When history tells the story of the subprime lending crisis and recounts its devastating effects on the lives of so many innocent homeowners, the Bush administration will not be judged favorably. The tale is still unfolding, but when the dust settles, it will be judged as a willing accomplice to the lenders who went to any lengths in their quest for profits. So willing, in fact, that it used the power of the federal government in an unprecedented assault on state legislatures, as well as on state attorneys general and anyone else on the side of consumers.
The writer is governor of New York.
I don't think dual citizenship applies to your kids -
Not being ugly, my daughter was born in Germany too, but I never heard that she had dual citizenship. She was born on a military base and that made her an American.
Too bad the cap only applies to TARP funded CEOs.
ANY CEO should be making more salary than the POTUS and that any compensation beyond that amount should be directly related to the success of the company, i.e. commissions, profit percentage, stock dividends, etc. I also believe stockholders should have more control of their salaries, benefits, bonuses and any other perks.
Yes, freedom works for everyone, right to choose applies....sm
to individual doctors, nurses, and even pharmacists, as well as the woman; as you said, there are enough providers who will happily oblige and do the procedures for compensation and not have a problem with it. I used to be a surgical tech, I never had to assist in one, my docs were general surgeons, but I could never be in the room, myself, while an abortion was being performed, I would get sick. I am sorry, I believe in the freedom for others, but personally I could not be there, and would not want to be forced, could not! JMHO
Thou shall not kill applies to unborn babies. sm
They are alive, no matter how many pretty pictures you try to paint about it. They are life, God's life.
The no-political-stance rule applies both ways
this is not exclusive to just anti-war speakers. To remain non-profit pastors cannot endorse a political party or agenda, eventhough Reverends Jesse and Al do it all the time and they seem to get away with it. There is a church in my area who was threatened with having their non-profit status pulled due to the fact the pastor urged people to vote for Bush. Believe me this is not unilateral nor one sided.
Won't be waiting around for your standard
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That should be our standard response to Sam! (nm)
No soup for you!
Labor not held to same standard as
other parties in the negotiations, i.e., double standard. During the debates on TARP funds, aside from the parachutes, when were white collar salaries ever examined?
GetSmart used to say....it's the old "double standard" sm
missed it by....that much....
Let's see if I can get this straight..... if anyone called your candidate, "young, black, shiny, blemish-free guy (or....aka nappy headed young black guy)...."
(and by the way, I'm black, so I can say it....another double standard, huh.....)
wait a minute, wait a minute...wait.....that means we're racist...but you're not?
You're so full of left wing *people eater sheater* it comes pouring out in all your posts, vile and nasty.....is your outhouse all full up, and out of the Sears catalogue....hmmmmmm????
danger, will robinson, danger.......
bwahahahahahahaha......
your mission, Jim, if your willing to accept it, is to hit the enter key on this post.....otherwise, this tape will self destruct in 5 seconds.....5,4,3,2,1
oh.......nevermind....please disregard.....you wouldn't know a joke if it hit you on the you know whats it...
Standard beautiy queen boilerplate
Most Americans don't have maps.
She stumbled on, saying that our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future, for us.
and such.
Anywhere in Scandinavia. Higher standard of living.
don;t bother to read -standard Faux creed
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double ack.
fire & brimstone yadda yadda.
yawn.
Sorry for the double post (nm)
not on my familiar computer.
double ditto!
He is so right on this. It is a big mystery why no one is signing up any longer and recruiters are chomping at the bit to get people in right now? The military has never been treated very well (father was in the AF for 24 years and hubby for 20 years). We lived in housing with roofs that leaked, put up with being told when and how to mow our lawns, and did not really get paid all that well until the last 5 years of my husband's career. We are now constantly fighting to preserve the benefits that were promised to us as part of a total retirement package. That is to say nothing of all the people signing up to fight for a war no one supports and doing it because they believe in making America better and safer, so WE can sit here and reap the benefits. Yep, I say the elected officials need to get out of their limos and into the trenches...
Double Standards?
Obama interview:
How does it feel to break a glass ceiling?
How does it feel to “win”?
How does your family feel about your “winning” breaking a glass ceiling?
Who will be your VP?
Should you choose Hillary Clinton as VP?
Will you accept public finance?
What issues is your campaign about?
Will you visit Iraq?
Will you debate McCain at a town hall?
What did you think of your competitor’s [Clinton] speech?
Palin interview:
Do you have enough qualifications for the job you’re seeking? Specifically have you visited foreign countries and met foreign leaders?
Aren’t you conceited to be seeking this high level job?
Questions about foreign policy
-territorial integrity of Georgia
-allowing Georgia and Ukraine to be members of NATO
-NATO treaty
-Iranian nuclear threat
-what to do if Israel attacks Iran
-Al Qaeda motivations
-the Bush Doctrine
-attacking terrorists harbored by Pakistan
Is America fighting a holy war? [misquoted Palin]
There’s no doubt the Charles Gibson interviews showed extreme prejudice against Palin and extreme favoritism towards Obama…He constantly questioned her ability to lead but never questioned Obama’s ability to lead, all the more amazing considering that Palin was the only one with executive experience and the presidency is the highest level executive job in politics.
There's much more at The Anchoress, so head over there to see the full report.
I got double-digits.
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Again double standards it looks like
Palin was trashed for running for office when she had kids and who will be taking care of the kids, she'll leave them just so she can campaign, blah, blah, blah. But it's okay for Michelle and Obama to leave their kids?
Now that's what I call double standards.
Double standards?...(sm)
Palin is currently paying back her state for misappropriated funds, Sanford is going to have to pay back money for his Argentina trip, and Ensign used pub party money to pay off his mistress et al, and you're worried about a party at the White House?
I think I would much rather pay for an event that not only collects money for charities but also provides a pick-me-up for those invited (congress and the media) than I would for yet another republican sordid affair.
Sorry for double post - weird
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I am seeing double standards flying
all over the place. yes, it bothers me, including on this board. A lot of this stuff is said so viciously it is amazing. I don't think either candidate has a leg to stand on talking about anybody's housing arrangements. Let's face it, none of them know what kind of lives we are living out here. They all sound like they come from everyday people and can identify with us poor slobs. Nobody anymore is going to set down their axe and get on a wagon to washington. Those days are long gone. Drug crimes are ruining this country, we have so lost any attempt at a grip on this, it is unreal; I know - let's go rip somebody for smoking. They probably aren't armed like a 14 year old might be. I wish both sides would tell the whole truth and not just whatever one liners they choose to take out on exhibit. And I think some of the comments safely said incognito are quite brave in their anonymous attacks, right down to picking on someone's clothing or hair. This is totally unnecessary and really juvenile, like a bunch of high school girls beating up on some poor slob nobody likes. No wonder our kids are doing this, they are learning it from their parents. I guess I am just too old now for all this stuff, all I can think is my daddy would have killed me for picking on someone. Too dog pack for me. I can sense you don't like McCain, well I like him better than Obama because I have yet to hear something more substantial than wanting change. Hitler and Castro said exactly the same thing and the people went for it and got what they wanted. And yes, you think it can't possibly happen again, but it can and does. All of American still harping about slavery, but we don't do anything about the slavery still alive and well in Africa and other places, including USA brought over here by other countries who buy kids to do their housework. Obama says charity begins at home, but not apparently for his half-brother who lives in Nairobi on $12 a year. There seem to be new standards in this country and I just can't agree with all of them. He is a perfect candidate for poster child for pro-life. His mother easily could have aborted him and that child would never have grown up to run for President. I used to think I was pro-choice, but after raising children and now enjoying my grandchildren and looking at the partial abortion diagrams, I have had to rethink this. I know some argue life does not begin until later, but every 6th grader is taught life begins with a cells, whether in a plant or animal or human. If a stranger ran up to a pregnant woman and managed to stab her baby in the back of the head with a pair of scissors, he would be arrested, tried and convicted. It is no wonder so many of our youngsters are confused. We are leaving them a huge mess, and I am not happy with anybody running in this election. I may just vote for Paris Hilton, at least she does not pretend to be anything but what she is.
Double standards abound
If someone (i.e. a non-Democrat) said this about Hilary, you guys would be all over it like white on rice. This was just a rude thing to say and he got his digs in. And to think he is an "eloquent" speaker? Surely a Harvard-educated man would have a better choice of words than that? NOT.
It is the party of double standards....
they really should add it to their platform. Be honest. What a concept.
Why don't you ask the double digit lead
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