More gutter trash, no substantiation....dems are so scared...
Posted By: not buying it on 2008-09-10
In Reply to: goose/gander - justduckyhere
they have to make things up.
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Please provide substantiation for your claim.
After all, you are not GW who can manipulate the truth as he pleases. But anyway, please provide the "burn in hell for eternity" quote that seems to appear over and over. I notice that this "quote" also changes slightly each time it is "quoted."
Be scared. Be reeeeally scared.
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O won't put himself in a gutter of mud.
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of the gutter variety it seems. (nm)
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Gutter politics. Anything goes. Just when you think...
the bottom of the barrell is reached....they take a shovel and keep on digging.
Oh I see...he lets his minions do the gutter of mud for him...
got it.
My mind out of the gutter...the prez was getting
his BJ (and a lot more) in the Oval office...where was HIS mind and morals, especially with a wife and young daughter living there?
I never retorted to gutter speak....
you have that market cornered. And welcome to it.
Trash.....
I guess that black smut on my fireplace needs to be put in the trash.......after all, it's sitting around and not accomplishing a thing
And more trash......
I guess that white toilet paper stuck to the bottom of my shoe needs to be flushed as it is just dragging me down and is the subject of ridicule.
Trailer trash?
Unfortunately for you, my dear, your use of the expression "trailer trash" negates any of your statements as worthwhile. It's rather comical how you rant about the evils of someone with ambition and goals in one sentence, and then in the next sentence insult all those who live in a trailer park. I guess I'm guilty of a little prejudice myself, as anyone who calls anyone "trailer trash" I consider that person a "snob", and a much less desirable person than the one who lives in a trailer park. It's a juvenile and over-used term and actually reveals a flaw in YOUR character.
Time to take out the trash
Uhhh, the FPJ question, the only one I see in this post, was answered in the PS, i.e., “FPJ, one in the same.” Guess you didn’t make it down that far before you threw this latest tantrum. The retreat snipe, like most of your rhetoric, was so predictable that I included a pre-emptive reference to it in the post... but you probably couldn’t recognize that either. Looks like you need someone to translate English into English for you. That would be the kick ‘em when they’re down reference. Let me break it down for you (AGAIN), to make sure this point does not go over you head.
I have no choice but to “retreat.” That would not be on account of “you win / I lose”....that’s your mentality, not mine. No white flag waving, no surrender in sight. Fact is, I have to look for a job. I will be the first to concede victory to you in the sense that it isn’t too hard to win arguments you will be having with yourself in my absence. So the kick ‘em when they’re down reference refers to taking advantage (i.e., taking the ball and running with it) of that imperative (needing to look for a job)....which is precisely what you are doing in this response.
I’m not going to explain this more than twice to you....that ought to be enough for you to grasp this basic concept. Pen names, aliases and assumed names are something I use within the CONTEXT (something you seem to hate as much as fact) of the post-at-hand. It adds a little dimension and intrigue to the board. Just a little innocent fun on my part and perfectly legitimate literary license. It’s done all the time. It certainly seems to get under your skin and “push your buttons” for reasons I have already discussed. It disarms you momentarily and impels you to hold back on the insults since you cannot quite figure out who you are talking to. Miss America....why does freedom of speech that seeks to examine and exercise alternative viewpoints bother you so? Now, which is taking this “wayyy too seriously?”
Don’t need to support those alternative viewpoints by inventing imaginary proponents as you would like to imply. Fact is, most liberals will not even bother with this type of “Sam and choir” forum. They recognize what a waste of time it is to approach the degree of ignorance they encounter in bigots and do not enjoy indulging in this level of insult-punctuated, dead-end dialog. Like I just said in the previous post, I have illustrated the point I was trying to make, blah, blah, blah...will not repeat the content of what I just wrote to you. You obviously were not paying attention anyway.
At least try to keep up with the content of your own snipes and digs. “Me thinks you need to trot off to...” Hence, the sunset imagery. So much for the Obama put down.....HELLO...no dodge here. Your question was answered. I did not have time to read some of the other posts that appeared between my last one from yesterday and this morning, and I am sincere when I say I meant no disrespect by having to ignore them. Aside from the job search, I had one of those life-and-death immigration fires to put out last night for a Somali woman, here illegally, trying to declare political asylum for herself and her two youngest daughters, ages 6 and 8, in an effort to spare them from female genital circumcision / mutilation, a fate she and her eldest daughter could not escape in time. Seems the visa quotas for Somalia are full for the next century or so. She needed help filling out some of the mountains of immigration paperwork. I kinda thought that was an issue a tad more important than swapping our latest round of whatevers. This reality check helped me decide that I really do have bigger fish to fry than this petty, pathetic, bickering banter.
Others in my “camp” believe bigotry deniers are just about one step under Holocaust deniers. WOT to “belabor” that issue one more second with you. Not bigoted against conservatives, but I will concede another point to you. I am bigoted against bigots. Not terribly fond of plagiarists either. Your denials are a really weak defense and transparent to anyone who is paying even the slightest bit of attention. No need to bury you under a mountain of examples. Don’t have all that spare time you seem to have to go back and review old posts that were nauseating enough on first pass. For me, it is kind of like copying someone else’s homework or cheating on a test, pretending to be smart, letting others do your thinking for you, being too lazy to do your own homework, stealing ideas out of somebody else’s head and words out of their mouths. Full-blown authors take it pretty seriously and, as a matter of fact, so does the law, intellectual properties notwithstanding. Fodder of plenty of lawsuits so yeah, it was worth mentioning. Like Bush and McCain, you would prefer to make tacky jokes.
Speaking of tacky jokes, I know you heard the one about Wall Street being drunk. Wondering if you also heard about the woman who committed suicide yesterday (a mere 12 hours after Bush got his rocks off in the middle of all those laughing pubs) an hour before her home went up for auction? Faxed a suicide note to the mortgage company and another one to her family members, telling them to use the insurance money to pay off the mortgage. Must have been too distraught to realize they wouldn’t pay a dime for suicide. The pubs really can be a cold-blooded, mean-spirited bunch of blankety-blanks, being blind to the misery of all the hoi polloi. Reminds me of some people I know. Elitism at its finest hour, I must say. BTW, it’s just a rhetorical question. No need for an answer.
Miss the point, MS miss-the-point re channeling theory building. In any case, this is no fun anymore, so call the ciao for now whatever you like...retreat, surrender...whatever. You just love to delude yourself. Knock yourself out. Wear that spiteful vixen moniker with great pride. You don’t have the sense to be embarrassed by it all.
Neverending trash. No one in their right
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TRASH is all you have posted.....
Talk about venomous and spitting like a run over cat.........you have spewed nothing but nasty, tasteless, useless blobs of opinion - NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE - Ignorance doesn't cover it - dumb does.
how racist was that? No white trash in the ERs
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Pure trash from beginning to end.
Are you not aware how old this smear campaign is and how ineffective it has been thus far? Though it seems like a couple of lifetimes ago, I do recall it being around at least as far back as February. It was kept alive all the way up until Obama successfully clenched the nomination of his party despite the Hannity cult's diligence to make it stick. It finally faded out after their original mission had failed miserably and he emerged from the primaries on top. You can post this stupidity until the end of time but it isn't going to accomplish anything except to make you look like the ignorant, out of touch bigot that you are, marginalize the fringe that subscribes to these beliefs and make your own party look like fools.
I am a WASP American who has many more Moslem friends than Christians for reasons that would be a waste of time to explain to someone with such a narrow, tiny brain. My relationship to that community spans more than 5 decades and my life has been enriched tenfold because of it. I have traveled there, lived amongst them, married into a Moslem family, born Christian children from that union and buried a few along the way. I speak 2 of their languages, have read the Quran, their literature and appreciated their extensive historical contributions to the arts, music and the sciences.
I have lost count of how many of them I have known. I can tell you they are an intelligent, educated and spiritual people. They have family values every bit as strong as Americans and an even stronger sense of community. They take pride in humility and honor. In all those many years, never ONCE have I known a terrorist among them. I know they are out there and I know that unfortunately the politicized version of Islam is every bit as ugly as the politicized version of Chritianity.
It makes no difference whether Obama is a Christian with Moslem ties or a Moslem who has converted (which he is not). As a matter of fact, I have also known many Moslems who have converted, but Obama is not one of them. He is a remarkable human being and this country is blessed to have him as a choice for leadership in this election. What I can tell you is that the ugly, bigoted sentiments expressed here are universally repulsive to all people of faith. Today, you have made me feel ashamed to call myself a Christian.
You will get no respect talking trash.
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Why should he lower himself to explain any such trash?
I have heard trash talk
it is not just the republicans.... and i will say this... obama can say what he wants as far as his proposals but he has flip flopped on those many times during his campaign... if he can't get what he proposes correctly during the campaign, what do you suppose he is going to do if he gets into office? mccain has plans and he has not offered up anything that he has had to flip flop on. it amazes me.. you seem like such an intelligent woman, why do you not see the simplicity in that?
You are right about the trash talk losing
all the trash talk from the biased liberal media trying with all their might to destroy individuals, politically and personally. And all of you liberals still cannot give it up, trash talk anyone who has any moral values at all. Try to trash talk everyone who does not want our whole world to be generic.
Old news -- instead of trash-talking Obama
  I haven't heard any initiatives out of him yet! Just the trash-talking!
do you just hate white trailer trash?
all poor people and people of other colors?
blame it on businesses who won't clean up their trash..................NM
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You have really gone around the bend. Talk about spewing forth hate and trash.
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Mindboggling that republicans would rather throw the cells in the trash...sm
Than put them to use to save a life and in the same sentence call themselves PROlife. I'd really like to understand this reasoning.
I don't agree with cloning or using aborted fetuses for this research (the latter because I am a prolifer), but when an embryo is headed for the dumpster why not use it for research and medicine.
I saw a MJF ad run on Fox News Channel and it was probably the only ad I've taken seriously. He's dedicated to finding a cure.
In answer to AG's question, why do celebrities become the spokeperson's for different causes? They have the finances, fame and connections to rally support. Sure, there are smaller organizations out there, but many would not get the air time or financial support as MJF.
With great power comes great responsibility.
You can put lipstick & a clean dress on trailer-trash,
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trash or treasure? gotta have checks and balances......
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Same BS, different day to keep everyone scared.
At a time when even so called ‘respectable, unbiased’ news (organizations) MSNBC (cough cough) are covering the growing possibility of Government involvement in 9/11, on a day that Israel decides to go ahead and bomb Beirut proper, when Lamont wins on an anti-war ticket (Bush accused competing Democrats as being weak on terror), we suddenly hear of this ‘plot’ to kill thousands on airliners. What is the probability that the timing of this disclosure was carefully crafted to deter antiwar sentiment during stateside elections, create doubt about government involvement in 9/11 and foster complacency about the destruction of Lebanon?
Don't be scared...sm
“When viewing the tape of Obama’s “57-states” statement objectively, it is plain to see that he was pretty much operating on coffee fumes and airplane exhaust at that point in the campaign (early June). I wonder how well any of us could speak if we had been to all but 2 states in the union in less than as many days? His entire statement was halting and sporadic, certainly not characteristic of his normal style of speaking when he has had adequate sleep. Stop and think, just for a minute. How many times zones did he flew over, back and forth from coast to coast, and how often did he appear in 2 states on the same day? Would it have been humanly possible for him to sock away 8, 6, or even 4 consecutive hours of sleep while keeping such a schedule? His eyes were beet red and, when he stopped before he said the “7”, they actually rolled back and forth and up and down (doll’s eyes), like my own do when I have highway hypnosis. My impression was that the pause was taken because he could not even remember if he had said “50” or “40” since he was so zonked out. If he had said “40”, then the “7” would have made sense (off by one, if he had missed 2 states, or maybe he had missed 3 and 47 would have been correct), again, considering how tired he looked and sounded. Try to ignore all the pathetically desperate spin that is out there over this just for a moment and give this some real consideration. He is a human being, flesh and blood, with physical requirements (food, water, SLEEP) and limitations. Any real human being probably should be able to understand how this could have happened. One thing is for sure. It did not happen because of senility or Alzheimer’s.
To suggest that Obama does not know how many states there are in the union is absolutely absurd. He is a Harvard graduate who is running for president. He knew how many delegates he needed and he knew how many states those delegates would come from. You can make anything you want out of a statement if you take it out of its context. This just goes to show you how low his opponents are willing to stoop with their personal attack machine, especially when they are not able to effectively argue ISSUES. Has he actually exhibited the same PATTERNS that are described in the other posts about McCain (and clearly apparent)? Think about it, minus the spin, and be honest.
If you are really worried and want any real answers about whether Obama is all for show without any real substance, stop trying to find them in chat rooms, on CNN, Fox or YouTube. Clear your brain out and start from scratch. Without prejudice, start with HIS words. You can find them on his website, under issues or in his speeches. Read and listen to HIM, not his detractors. Try his books. Read some unbiased, factual biographical information (actions speak louder than words). Like the OP said, “rise above” the media. They want to put you down in the gutter and keep you there. Don’t let them.
About his past associations. How much do you really know about them? Where did you hear about it? Did you consider your sources? If you are referring to the Reverend Jeremiah Wright, you will find some of those answers in his books as well (written way before the controversy erupted on CNN and Fox). Caution. There are no direct answers. You will have to do a genuine search for them, but they are there. That, too, requires an objective read and the ability to put yourself in someone else’s shoes for a few minutes…and in this case, the shoes of a young biracial, international American man, confused and seeking clarity on what it means to be black. If you give this an honest effort, you will not find the same answers that the media outlets are trying to shove down your throat. You certainly cannot get an accurate portrayal of his character from cheap, filthy gossip, innuendo and speculation. If you want a make a real assessment, eliminate the middle man and go one-on-one….then make up your mind.
If all you hear is that he would raise taxes (another tired, tired conservative battle cry), then you have not been listening. Bill Clinton did not balance the budget with astronomical tax programs. He did it with spending restraints and eliminating pork and budget bloat. If we were not bankrolling the Iraq, Afghanistan and the war on terror ($859 billion dollars so far), tax hikes would not happen at all. Diplomacy is much, much cheaper and a whole lot more effective.
Why would anyone expect the health insurance plan to be free? Question is how much would it cost, will the coverage be better or worse, will it be accessible and affordable to more or less than the now insured. Before you slam the plan, read it. He is keeping no secrets from you. You have only to look around to other developed nations and their health care systems and compare them to ours to know just how much room there is for improvement.
Ask yourself these questions. Does anybody ever really “win” a war? Have our wars made us any more safe or secure? Doesn’t avoiding war and preventing war have any appeal to you at all? Don’t you think that, in the 21st century, we just might be evolved enough to figure out some other solutions to our conflicts and threats? For example, just how much good do you think it will do to put us back into a cold war with Russia? A guy who looks into Russian eyes and sees KGB does not know how to do anything else but that. Careful what you ask for.
Because they are scared.
And it's the nature of the beast!
scared now
i am not one that can see one thing and that just turns my mind right around when it was so decided already. BUT, in this case, I dont know what to think. I am SHOCKED. I cant believe it. I wanted so bad to vote for O. I am so upset. I cannot vote for O. I just dont feel right about it as a Christian. It doesnt matter if he doesnt support these views of him. He knows it is being done and is not doing anything to correct peoples worship of him. If he is a God fearing Christian, he should be doing this first thing. That is my opinion, no one will change that. Now I am not voting. Not at all. I dont care if it is wasting my vote, voting for either one at this point is a waste. Not going. NOPE.
You are not alone, there are many more that think that way too. be scared, be very scared. nm
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I believe him and I'm scared.
Anyone here ever been the recipient of Medi-Cal/Medicaid benefits? Fasten your seatbelts..
I have a lot of friends and acquaintances from Canada who migrated HERE because of inadequate health care in their own country. Months-long waiting lists for routine procedures, days on gurneys in the halls and waiting rooms of the ED, lack of anesthesia for childbirth..etc., etc. Sounds crazy but it's reality.
We have a lot to look forward to.
Wow! Now you really scared me! Is it really THAT bad?..nm
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GT things everybody's scared of her
Not me. My theory is that gt is a person who doesn't have any power over anyone and comes to this board to be some kind of faux dictator. It's really pretty sad and she's almost single-handedly shut down any meaningful conversations with her hateful pukings.
I'm not scared by gt one bit. I've figured her out. She's really a very pitiful hate filled person who wouldn't have been allowed to stay on the board in the old format.
Somebody is scared! Too funny.
Maybe you should be scared, because more than likely a big scary, American-hating Democrat will be elected by all of us God-less, America-hating liberals. LOL! I know I'm scared with George I have no brain W. Bush running things, so maybe it is your turn. Liberals are not godless and do not hate America - they just have a different view than yours - gasp, how horrible right? A different view in America! Maybe you are the one that lives in the wrong country.
And how hypocritical of you to say that you grew up on welfare but don't want others to have that option! How do you know you would be either alive or healthy if it hadn't been for the welfare that took care of you? The ignorance of all of your statements astounds me, but this is America after all, and you have a right to your own opinions, obviously.
Some people are so scared of anything that isn't
 Do some jumping jacks.
 Write a letter.
 Take up a new sport.
 Make love.
 Take a pole-dancing class.
Anything to get away from your computers and -----
 (---- clear out your mind)!
We should all be very scared of people like this . . .
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Not scared at all....even your O said not to be cocky.....see ya on....
Let's just wait till "real" people get in those booths....no polls can accurately predict the outcome, this time included.
I am running scared
Of course you are right, Obama is closet Muslim. He was been faking practicing Christianity for 20+ years, even going so far as to have his daughters baptised just to fool us. Wow, why didn't I realize it until just now.
Oh, and the Muslims really hate the Jews. I better go find an attack to live in when Obama is elected.
Thanks so much for your help in getting me to see things so much more clearly now.
Here's something for you scared folks. s/m
Here in NW Arkansas I've had the inside scoop for some time on a situation that ought to scare the living dickens out of everyone who works for a living.
I have known for some time that Don Tyson was going to come out of retirement and take over the reins of Tyson Food again. The news story broke yesterday. By the way, Don Tyson is a rabid Republican. None of the following is heresay, I know the guy.
Most of you probably find Tyson products in your local grocery. If you eat at McDonalds you eat Tyson chicken tenders.
In the farming area where I live probably 75% of the people have either worked in some facet of the chicken industry or they have retired with a fortune they made in the chicken industry. Most people contracted with Tyson to raise their chickens. Low income workers worked in the hatcheries and chicken processing plants. Not to mention the people who had good jobs in the corporate offices. Within the last several years Tyson replaced their low income workers with illegal aliens. They started building their own chicken farms and imported Mongs from (Minnesota or somewhere) to run them at much less cost than their contract growers but they are so big they didn't replace all of their growers.
What some of you call the "low lifes" worked in this chicken business, a dirty, nasty job. Some of them did this because there is nothing else they can do. They are uneducated, some are not too bright but they WORK. I know one who can't even read and write. Most of them now drive 25-30 miles to Fayetteville to work in fast food, as janitors or whatever low-paying job they can find and you see their old jalopies by the side of the road where they've either broken down or run out of gas. These "low life people" don't want handouts, they want to work. I feel sorry for them.
Now the news flash? Tyson has bought chicken processing plants in Argentina, Brazil and China because "the cost of feed is making it cost prohibitive to do business here." This is going to not only take jobs out of this country, it is going to leave many farmers who are still growing chickens (and pork) not only unemployed but with thousands of dollars in debt because of the investments they have made in chicken farming. 20 years ago it cost $100,000 for a farmer to build a commercial chicken house. I shudder to think what it costs today. The plan is to raise chickens abroad and process them and bring them home to America.
So all of you who work for a living whether you work in the chicken industry or another, had better be scared. John McCain from his own mouth proclaimed himself to be the biggest free trader ever. Free trade hasn't worked too well for Americans has it?
The inside scoop is buy Tyson stock now. Not me. I will NOT profit by costing American people their jobs.
I've changed my plean from "God Bless America" to "God Have Mercy on America."
How does this relate to the election? For one thing I don't think we need another "biggest free trader ever" in the White House.
Thanks for reporting this, but I am scared.
I know from 9/11 that Osama wanted to hurt us financially. In fact, I was waiting for a terror attack 2-3 weeks after our financial crisis to hit us in the US. Then with the elections and all, I forgot about it, but now this is brought up again. Did you hear about the Russian Nuclear Sub and had 20 deaths reported on that sub? What were they doing?
I must admit we should stock up on supplies like food, water, etc. Remember the 2000 crisis known as Y2K? I went to a lot of meetings about the Y2K. I know we are not having a Y2K problem, but it did help me to understand on what to do if power went out, food famine, money, etc.
I know all about the Palo Nuclear Power plant outside of Phoenix. In fact everything about it. Even visited the silly place. Too much knowledge actually. Care to know about it, email me. I know about the electric grid and how we could be out of power for months and how the grid is all connected to most states, except Texas may pull through it. I know why we have to have 3 day supply of water, because that is how long it will take someone to get to your neighborhood to give you more water each day in case you need it. Gosh, I even bought books about Y2K and should probably read those again because it tells you about how to handle a crisis.
Hope you live in a good neighborhood and better get to know your neighbors. You all might have to come together some time down the road during a crisis, otherwise, you could be at war with each other, stealing things, using guns and all because of fighting over things. I am thinking of worst case scenerio of course.
I think the right is scared cuz we've got em
If they don't get OVER that fear, they just might END UP with 'the runs'.
Nah, not scared. Just disappointed.
That the ignorant have elected the inexperienced and we're all gonna spend the next 4 years paying for it.
Not scared. Just disappointed.
That the uninformed have elected the inexperienced, and now we're going to have to pay for it for the next 4 years.
If I were as scared as most on this board
I would definitely invest in a bomb shelter, and go hide out until the presidency is years gone by. What a bunch of crock. Scared. You sound like a bunch of little sissy girlies, not women. Do you still have to hide behind your mother's skirts. Ohhhhh, I am so scared- (shaking going on here).
Obama campaign discarded 84 trash bags full of American flags...sm
after they left Invesco field, after the DNC convention.
You tell me, after reading this article.....who has more character, and who is more patriotic? I feel as if the flag has been spit upon, 12,000 times.
Night and day, my friends. Night and day, between these two candidates.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/06/mccain-camp-to-chastise-dems-for-discarding-american-flags/
saw him on Bill Maher and he scared me!!!
Running scared? Ahhhh, don't think so
when McCain loses. The only way he will win is if they cheat - which we all know is possible - just ask Gore.
You people are scared to death of her.
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shock - blatant - scared
Picked up the emotional tone of this post. Recent study said that those who startle easily at small noises usually vote republican. Individuals who are on a more even keel usually vote democrat. Interesting to see the intertwining of theory with reality.
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