Maybe you want to coneduct an instant replay of this morning's posts.
Posted By: Exercise in futility. on 2009-02-06
In Reply to: You didn't watch Obama's speeches before the - election?
You can spin this subject into the ground but it will not change anything. Gitmo will be closed, the prisoners will be transferred and further legal proceedings will take place based on policies that have not been made yet. Abd al-Rahim will not be seeing the light of day and Ms. Crawford (or another "top notch" military operations attorney) can bring charges against him once the dust settles on the policy. Ene of story.
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Thanks so much for the instant replay!! But guess what? No hate preached at my church though!! (sm)
Perhaps it was the ministries at the Trinity United Church that attracted Obama...much like the ministries of other Americans attract them to their churches? Ya think?
1. Can-Cer-Vive support to cancer patients and caregivers.
2. Churh school and youth church.
3. Counseling services, both individual and group.
4. Emmaus Road Ministry, which provides companions, prayer partners, helpers and friends for grieving persons, months after the passing of a loved one. Ongoing contact with the family is maintained.
5. Girl Scouts.
6. Teen choir.
7. Computer classes.
8. Assistance to physically, mentally and emotionally handicapped.
9. Marriage enrichment seminars.
10. Workshops on building and maintaining Christian homes.
11. Men's chorus.
12. Men's fellowship.
13. Bible study.
14. Sanctuary choir.
15. Stewardship.
16. Women's chorus.
17. Women's drill team.
18. Yoga.
19. Youth drill team.
20. Active seniors.
21. Adopt-a-Student.
22. Athletes for Christ.
23. Career development.
24. Church in the community.
25. Domestic violence advocacy and support.
26. Drug and alcohol recovery.
27. Food share.
28. Grandparent's ministry.
29. HIV/AIDS support.
30. Housing workshops.
31. Health and wellness.
32. Legal counseling.
33. Math tutors.
34. Prison ministry.
35. Reading tutors.
36. Drama.
37. Fine arts and literary guild.
38. Quilting.
39. Adult dance.
40. Music.
These ministries seem to be awfully consistent with Obama's life experiences, political agendas and campaign platforms. That's all the explanation I need.
yes - in an instant - see message
This vast country we live in is filled with a diverse group of people and religions. We have Catholics, Espiscopalean, Wiccans, Lutherans, Deist, Methodist, LDS, Buddists, etc, etc, etc (too many to list them all), and we also have a large percent who are Atheists. Some of the Atheist I know of are more rational thinkers than a lot of the religious crowd. Last I knew the constitution stated "separation of church and state". To me that means that the two should be separate. Unfortunately in today's world there are those so adament in their thinking they believe only someone who is religious should be president (oh and by the way they believe it should be someone who is "their" religion). Look at Mit Romney. I think he lost a lot of votes simply because he was Mormon, and there were a lot of people saying they voted against him for that very reason.
I wish an atheist would become president. Keep religion in the churches and homes where it belongs, not sitting in the white house telling us he's going to start a war because "I prayed and God spoke to me and told me I needed to do this".
Here is a very memorable quote from one of my favorite movies "Kingdom of Heaven". It is the Hospitalier (religious figure) talking to Balian...
"I put no stock in religion. By the word religion I have seen the lunacy of fanatics of every denomination be called the will of god. I have seen too much religion in the eyes of too many murderers. Holiness is in right action, and courage on behalf of those who cannot defend themselves, and goodness. What god desires is here (points to his head), and here (points to his heart), and what you decide to do every day, you will be a good man - or not".
I expect a replay either way.
And there should be, especially if McCain wins.
I found the comments on Morning Joe this morning
about Palin rather disgusting. A bunch of overweight old men talking about how hot she is, the feelings (implying those sexual type of feelings) they get when 'near' her in person - Pat Bucanan (spelling?) jokes to stay away from his girlfriend. It was like watching men talk about Playboy centerfolds.
Where are all the women who normally attack that type of behavior? This woman has a husband, children. The fact I would never vote for her does not stop me from being completely nauseated at how they disrespected her.
Should this type of talk be accepted regarding a presidential candidate at all, period?
Is she beautiful, yes. Is she funny, yes. Is she a hunter who kills animals, yes. I appreciate all of those things, but someone who cannot get men to respect her...that would be worrisome in a serious job or say, running an entire country, we are told is in crisis. Not so sure I understand what is so 'gosh-darn' funny about it.
Posts were removed due to the nastiness. Play nice and posts won't get deleted.
I saw the posts for myself, no one "ran" to me. Note that all boards were reviewed for inappropriate posts.
This morning on TV,...
...I heard that so far, there were 325 Palestinians dead and TWO Israelis dead. (I realize this figure is no longer accurate, but I bet the ratio still is.) 
This morning on TV,...
...I heard that so far, there were 325 Palestinians dead and TWO Israelis dead. (That was about 18 hours ago, and I realize this figure is no longer accurate, but I bet the ratio still is.)
Sat. morning laugh
Anybody interested, watch the short animated video at:
http://www.batemania.com/bateman365/day009.html
It only takes a few seconds, it's really funny....until you think about it too long anyway.
My thoughts this morning
I don't know why I find certain posters/postings so darn disturbing. I know in my heart they do NOT represent most right-wingers. I have two very close friends who are right-wingers and quite a few acquaintances. These folks in no way resemble the posters I refer to. I also know they are pretty much a lunatic fringe. I know I should just ignore them....but I can't sometimes, especially when I see postings that are so grievously factually erroneous (i.e., this country takes care of its poor - which I might add in many ways this country TRIES to help its poor but there is still much to be done). I just think I could address these factual errors without becoming personally embroiled.
The up side is that I learn so much from the research I have ended up doing as well reading some of the eloquent and inspiring posts I have seen on this board. That by itself is worth a lot.
Yesterday I felt my blood pressure rise and felt sick to my stomach for a while. But at sunset I took my three ill-behaved dogs-of-uncertain-heritage for a walkl in a snowy woods out here in the boonies where I live and my appreciation for the world that l am able live in came back to me....and I mean my own personal space, my mental place as well as geographic world.
good morning
Get a cup of coffee or juice and enjoy....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiJk6MeBx54
I can't find it either....this morning....sm
I saw a .pdf file and when I clicked on it for the new bailout plan as worked out by the Senate, nothing came up on my screen. It was blanked out. Now it isn't there, so it may still be evolving, I dunno.
What I did hear on one of the money talk shows this morning , is that the bill is now up to something ridiculous like 450 pages long. I cringe if I try to wonder what all it does and does not contain.
However, one bright spot in this bill is that it sounds like they are going to get rid of the mark to market rule (dunno if it's going to be temporary or permanent). But from what I understand, that little thing alone, getting rid of the "mark to market" will free up money for all banks to want to begin the lending process again. This is a very, very good thing.
Oh, did you finally get out of bed this morning? nm
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I can only tell you what my feelings were this morning...sm
when I saw CP on Meet the Press. We already knew from the lead in that he was going to support one candidate or the other. I respect him so much that I was praying he would endorse Obama but had no real feeling of which way he would go. I listened to what he had to say and felt his pain that he was a republican through and through but just could not endorse McCain. He spoke of their friendship over many years and how much he respected him but could not abide the far right direction and the negative tone that the campaign had taken. He said he is an American first and thinks that Obama is better for America than McCain.
Morning backatcha, Dee
I'm on my way out the door campainging for the restoration of the local grist mill that dates back to the 1830s. Maybe I was born 100+ years too late. LOL
Well, I usually watch the morning
news shows local and national,then a few others after that, but they're all yaking about it. It just seems like the news doesn't have any news. Don't get me wrong. They do it with every little story. I counted 2 weeks at least on little Caylee, then nothing. I counted more than that on the 911 tragedy. After a few days of any news story, it gets really old.
How can the O be painting a room. Doesn't he have all kinds of celebrations/parties/speeches to make somewhere? I thought the three days was going to be spent doing that before THE day.
And that's why I vented this morning.
Of course, I was awake for a couple hours, so I had my coffee and was wide awake when I heard that. LOL
I'm a little calmer now, except I'm now listening to C-Span and they are debating the SCHIP program, about increasing the program. I have to turn it off pretty soon. I can feel my BP going up again with some of the asinine remarks being made by certain members of the senate that don't want to wait to debate or discuss the amendments CAREFULLY. Some want full disclosure of the cost and amendments, others think it's not necessary. What jerks!
wow, nasty this morning,,,
in our area there are people struggling but not to the extent that seem to be here on this board every day. Certainly don't live in a glass house; have struggled before in the past and have figured out a way not to. We are in a fortunate situation at the moment and have taken steps to ensure that we will be okay financially should the rug be pulled out from under us; so be it if that is considered snooty. Bash away as is your style; it humors me.
She also posts regularly here. Who are you to say where she posts? nm
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Got a call early this morning, was
not truly awake when I answered the phone, and my stepson stationed in Japan gave me the dreadful news, news I NEVER wanted to hear...he is going to Iraq. My husband was not here when I received this horrifying news, he was working the midnight shift. My stepson said not to tell his dad, that he would tell him. So here I am, with husband now sleeping, and he still does not know that his son is nearing the time of deployment to this God-awful, senseless, maniacal, perverted, ill-fated, unjustifiable war in Iraq where innocent Iraqis by one hundred thousand and American by the thousands are dying because WHY???? Someone please give me an unabashed truthful, reasonable answer as to WHY we are even there?! You must know that when the Bush admin even started talking about invading Iraq, I was 100 percent against it. I knew our presence there would only enrage, create a hornet's nest of more terrorists and fanatics, and lead to devastation for WHAT!? To get rid of Saddam, to get the oil, to enrich Halliburton?! None are good enough reasons to kill people. This murdering bunch of thugs who are *elitists* sitting on their money, getting richer on the lives and deaths of our American troops....It's all too much for me. As I said, I have been against this war before troops were even deployed, and my son has to go....very very sad day for us. I pray for all those have gone before my son, and pray to the dear Lord that this will all end soon. God forgive this prez for all the killing and misery he has caused for nothing, NO THING!
Thanks for the reminder....went first thing this morning....
and you are right...every vote makes a difference, just like every "non" vote. Have a great day!
Here is an issue that I just read this morning. sm
McCain says he opposes using federal $$ for teen pregnancy prevention programs and Palin had said she opposes funding sex-ed programs in Alaska.
I'm not a conservative, but not a total liberal either as I don't believe in abortion - so, what do the conservatives think of this. Do you agree or disagree? Please don't start with the bashing each other, I am sincerely curious and am not trying to get a rise out of anyone.
I saw Biden in an interview this morning....
he got realll agitated when confronted about an issue they really did not want to break. Talking to a reporter and he almost got loud. They are not on the run, but they are definitely concerned. The debates will be verrryyyy interesting.
To Biden's credit, though, he was almost snarly to the press for sexism and attacking Palin's family. Much more forceful about it than Obama. Good for him!
The little experiment I conducted this morning...
proves my point. The attack "machine" on this board will attack anyone who posts in opposition to them...whether I post as Indy Observer or as sam. It makes no difference. So changing the moniker means nothing. It is not the individual poster; we are all lumped together as the "great evil." lol. Sigh.
Did someone miss their morning meds?...nm
This endorsement happened this morning....
She formally announced she is supporting McCain and will campaign for him.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/16/prominent-clinton-backer-and-dnc-member-to-endorse-mccain/
I heard this morning it was over $850 billion...
with added stuff...one particular one I saw was for wool research and wooden children's arrows of all things. The Republicans did manage to get some tax cuts in there that will help to a point so that maybe not so much of the $700 billion will have to go out...because people will be encouraged to invest again. A drop in the bucket probably, but at least a try. Now it has to go back to the house and no telling what they will want to add. The bill went from what was posted on the internet (about 10 pages I think) to 450+. Sigh. THAT kind of experience we don't need anymore of. Bring on Sarah Palin. I wish we could replace every member of congress with common sense folks like Sarah Palin. THAT is change I can believe in. I am sick to DEATH of Washington Politics as usual.
As to Dodd and Frank...I hear that! Not willing to accept one iota of the blame when they should have all of it. And where is the mainstream media? Out to lunch? Can you imagine what will happen to this country if Obama is elected, with a Democrat majority and mainstream media cover? What is WRONG with people? Hellooo. Sigh.
should have watched good morning
actually biden may have answered questions and he didn't need palin to point out they were not factual.... good morning america sure did though.
I had a post removed this morning . . .
for whatever reason, I guess someone didn't like the fact that I posted about SP being brought up on investigation again for her crooked dealings! Then I got an angry response from someone about not posting political viewpoints on this board!! Why is this post allowed to stay, and mine was taken off? I guess freedom of speech is only allowed for the one side!!
good morning, gourdpainter
another day, another pub.
Yeah, I read this morning
where he is being criticized by the left for not appointing cabinet members who are "liberal enough." LOL Just goes to prove you can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all the people all the time.
Saw a lawyer on the tube this morning....
saying that Obama campaign does not have to write down names under $200, however, they ARE supposed to be tracking credit card numbers to stop people from making MULTIPLE $200 donations with the same credit card. Supposedly that was done, but no one was making sure there were not repeat donations on the same card. Or they knew it and ignored it. THAT Is why they want an investigation, because it is against campaign finance law for one individual to donate more than $200.
Obama kept the donation from Hamas until it became public and then he gave it back....lobbyists is one thing. Terrorists quite another.
Wow. Up here all morning and so far has drawn one big "DUH"
Maybe they're doing so research on how to trash Shakespeare.
Wow. They let the loons out early this morning.
Either way, it is doubtful he is racist against his other half.
Yep, me too :-) Just hope all is well when we wake up in the morning sm
no matter who wins!
Good morning Gourdpainter....
So how long can I wait until eating that crow? Want to let him get in and going first? :)
Seriously, I hope I am wrong about him. I respect that he is our president, but I just pray he will rethink some of his more liberal ideas (i.e. signing FOCA) and come to a little more little of the road.
Just one other question...is anyone else freaked out by Pelosi? She gave me the heebie geebies last night when she spoke! LOL I'm sorry not being mean, she is just a straight politician through and through!
Well congrats to all you O supporters. I just hope that no one sits back and expects him to fix things. We all need to be more active this go around. We all need to voice our opinions and fight for our rights through this whole presidency. No time to get complacent now!
good morning america
he said that O and him worked on a fund raiser together, that they were family friends and that he donated money to an early campaign. Now I watched a debate where O said that the only link between the two was that they happened to be on the same fund raiser and that he didnt know ayers other than that. so i am sorry but that was not true.
You might want to try the other side of the bed tomorrow morning...(sm)
I'm just saying....
You might want to try the other side of the bed tomorrow morning...(sm)
I'm just saying....
My, my. Feeling a little grumpy this morning?
Hope your petty snipes make you feel better.
My, my. get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?
Not only does he identify with the "peon" vs the podium, he seeks to raise them up and level the playing field, which is a WHOLE LOT MORE than his predecessor can even conceive of.
Heard this morning about a possible "methane gas tax" (sm)
This would basically be a fart tax for farmers and livestock owners. It has been proposed (not adopted yet) by the EPA, since they are now in control of the atmospheric emissions. The proposal is $175 per head of cattle and $120 per pig.
Even if you're a vegetarian and don't eat meat, if you like cheese, ice cream, chocolate, or anything that includes any dairy product, you can bet this fart tax will be passed on to consumers.
Again, this is just a proposal, so we may hear more about it in the months to come, but it's just another way we can get taxed and the government can say they didn't do it.
On the local news this morning:
US is deploying anti-missle weapons to Hawaii in case N.Korea aims their newest long range missle towards Hawaii on July 4. Hopefully, Alaska is armed to the hilt.
That maniac needs to go.
Did anyone else see a headline/story this morning about Rove?
I saw it briefly this morning and then it disappeared. It said that Rove himself found out about Plame's undercover status from Novak, not the other way around! The article made it sound like this affair was resolved, Rove was the good guy that we all know him to be, ha-ha.
Well, I suppose I can just wait to see if it reappears. Seemed surprising, but stranger things have happened.
I checked that "other" board to see if they were crowing about it yet but na-da, nothing so far. Maybe I misinterpreted it.
On CNN this morning, John McCain picked...sm
Sarah Palin because of her ideology. She was never veted. Investigators are in Alaska now doing so. Smart move John.
Heard it on the news this morning, then googled it...
there is a lot of information on the net about it.
Actually, McCain was in financial meetings all morning....sm
and what I read on CNN is that McCain wasn't told of the content of Obama's first call. I can't find the link to it now, because their news keeps changing.
I believe McCain decided this on his own, without any input from Obama, or even knowing about the call.
I'm willing to bet that he won't give a darn if he loses the debate if he doesn't show up, as it sounds as if Obama refuses to cancel the debate to another time.
Just proves to me that McCain does, indeed, put the country first. He's acting like a true leader.
I heard that this morning and almost spilled my coffee. sm
I believe that McCain has just shot himself in the foot, or like Joe Biden, has a bad case of "foot in mouth disease."
Yes, both should go and help out with the crisis in Washington, but then keep to the debate schedule. After all, a president has to be to able multi-task just like us.
The Obamarama campain is already making hay with McCain, his interview, and wanting to cancel the first debate, saying he is afraid to debate Obamarama, and other comments to that effect.
IMO I think McCain has committed political suicide. Hope springs eternal, but we shal see what we shall see.
I just heard on one of the morning money shows...sm
that the tax breaks that are in it for some business entites, whether they be in American Samoa, or Puerto Rico, and the ones in the U.S., even though they appear to be pork related....they will bring home "the bacon."
In other words, designed to have revenue here, home in the U.S.
That's what I know about that....
don't know other details yet.
I did hear on the news this morning that Congress is ...sm
looking into who was at fault for the failure of Lehman Bros.
Our pastor was talking just yesterday morning about how
we can't depend on the government to change America. It is up to the Christians of America to get on our faces before God and ask for mercy for our nation and pray we will, once again, be One Nation Under God.
I heard this morning russia is buying up
iceland's debts, guess they are in real trouble. supposedly could be a change in the balance of power (not a good one if you know what I mean)...?
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