Maybe, but with most terrorists wanting to see Barack elected, that
Posted By: tells me I don't. nm on 2008-09-04
In Reply to: Obama does not want to negotiate with terrorists. - You would know that had you read his plan. nm
Wonder why they want him elected so much?
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No, curious as in wanting to know...
and it is obvious what you are "compelled" to do.
Not as scary as someone wanting to...
figure out "which factions are involved" before acting (when asked about AL Qaeda).
And I am sure Obama can emphathize with the statement "clumsy word choices" this morning.
That's right. I'm funny that way, wanting to keep
It's called logical thinking. Try it sometime - you'll like it!
My opinion - Not wanting to debate -- SM
Honestly, I believe that two things are going on here:
1) The American people do not have the absolute truth -- neither from the media nor from any government branch nor the President, any committee, etc. The whole truth about any issue has never been put out there.
2) MOST, not all, but MOST people do no really want truth. For people to have truth, they have to be responsible for accepting it (in which USUALLY - not always - is in conflict with how they are currently living and they just don't want the conscience about their own actions) or the responsibility for acting on it. People do not want to have to DO anything; they want others to do it for them. People do not want to have to make changes in their life; they want others to make those changes. People do not want to have ownership of where they could better be involved with their own community, government, country - they want others to do that.
Without the truth and the willingness to accept it for whatever it is, the American people will never have a stable ground to make the next progressive step.
I would say the next issue at hand would be that people simply have different priorities. I'm not referring to the choices we are actually making in our lives, but in what we are saying we want our government to provide, obtain, offer, and protect for us. I see many people SAYING they want the government to "do something" about an issue; however, these very people do not make that choice for themselves personally. Example: I know MANY people who want "the government" to "do something" about the violence and sex on TV, music, etc. However, those same people attend R-rated movies and buy them at Wal-Mart and bring them into their homes, and think some of the roughest or raciest shows are fabulous. It's a contradiction. They do not want to be personally responsible, but they want to demand that others and the government make provisions.
This is just one example of many where I see a contradiction in what we SAY we want and what we are willing to actually be self-responsible for.
Wanting the whole truth is fanatical?
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Since when did wanting to see ALL Americans prosper
Are you telling me that it is a an either/or situation? In other words, the American dream is only available to those who are willing to setp over their fellow citizens to grab it? If that's the case, sign me up for a little socialism. Sheesh.
Pathetic is not wanting to know the truth
FOS back at you - whatever it means. I'm sure it's not nice.
Can someone tell me why everyone says Obama is wanting the elderly to die?
I keep reading posts about letting elderly people die. I did not get to listen to the speech last night, so I do not know what the subject matter was concerning this point and would like to know.
Thanks!
Wanting truth and accountability = hatred?sm
Dissent, not loyalty to the almighty State is patriotic.
Ron Paul supporter? Not wanting to fight, just asking.
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I do disagree about not wanting to give to those who CAN'T work. sm
My sister had brain damage from birth and has never been able to keep a job. She is able to live on her own, but she barely survives. Our mother, who is retired, took a part-time job to continue to take care of my sister. What happens when my mother can't do that anymore or dies? I guess it will be my turn to take care of my sister. What about people who don't have anyone to do that for them? Do you realize the meager amounts people are given right now barely enable them to survive? You (poster below complaining about giving to those who can't/won't/don't work) would not be able to survive. You obviously have no idea what hunger feels like or what it is like to go to bed at night as a child with no dinner, no snack, and hope for breakfast the next morning. I will most certainly give to those who can't work.
another liberal wanting money...waaaa....nm
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Wanting to see W and his party bite the dust
half (and probably more like 60%) of Americans seem to share. By your (il-)logic, that makes them all jihadists? At least 100,000 Iraqi civilians have died behind W's war of lies. We are making air strikes into 2 other soverign nations in the midst of a tanking republican presidential campaign. Ever hear of a war of attrition...the kind that wears down a nation from the inside because of the economic drain it places on its population? From where I sit, W played right into the hands the terrorist dealt. Continuation of such saber-rattling imperialism makes terrorist predictions a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Bombing countries into democracy, illegal occupations, kangaroo trials and lynching of leaders who do not bend to US will which fail to follow their OWN rule of law, military presence in defiance of overwhelming popular mandates that seek to take back control of their own country, flagrant disregard for human rights, clandestine interrogations, torture and humiliation of POWs not afforded the benefit of a trial, selective stateside vote suppression that overwhelming favors the party that is on its way out and the litany of other such violations of our historic basic principles make a MOCKERY of our own claims to be the greatest democracy on the face of the earth.
Live by example. It's simple. If we are not able to live up to and be accountable for our own basic tenants, we will self-destruct with or without any help from FUTURE leaders.
Personally, lately....I've been wanting to smack....sm
my husband up the side of the head.
He's been saying for weeks that now's the time to buy, and that if we had extra money in our accounts, he'd do it....just this morning, he said he's buy tons of Citigroup, GM, and Ford, as if you do, and hold onto it long enough, you could make a killing.
Needless to say, though....we don't have enough to do this at the moment....he refuses to buy on margin, so we'll just sit here and watch the stock markets.
Now IS the time to buy, though, that's very, very true......
Not honoring her son by wanting answers, and speaking what she knows he felt.sm
He joined the army in 2002 before the Iraqi war began, so it's plenty possible he didn't agree with the Iraqi war.
No logical thinking person would have thought that Bush would focus his attention after 9-11 on Iraq.
Just had a friend last night wanting to use my extra bedroom -
NO WAY - would rather take on 10 extra jobs than let somebody else stay in my house with me again....
have tried it and tried it and it never works...
People wanting less gov't interference in their lives (CONSERVATIVES) are being labeled......sm
Those who attend the Tea Parties are being labeled "right wing extremists." As an organizer of a Tea Party in my town, I am going to wear that label with pride. Below is the quote from the Dept. of Homeland Security:
On the eve of the nationwide tax day Tea Parties, Barack Obama's DHS has issued a "rightwing" threat assessment to warn of the "current economic and political climate fueling resurgence in radicalization and recruitment" for "rightwing extremism." Who are these extremists? According to the report, adherants are rimarily "hate-oriented" or "antigovernment" but also include "individuals that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration."
Personally, I think it is more than quite a coincidence that Obama's DHS is warning of the "rightwing" threat on the eve of the Tea Parties! This is a blatant attempt to taint the efforts of those who are standing for the patriotic, idea-based resistance.
Anything or anyone who does not toe the Obamarama line or has not drunk the kook-aid, is automatically considered a "right wing extremist."
There is a 10 page document put out by an office which is a branch of the Dept Homeland Security called "The Extremism and Radicalization Branch, Homeland Environment Threat Analysis Division. Coordinated with the FBI.
There are 4 words that should make you very nervous....COORDINATED WITH THE FBI. Below is the link to download or read the PDF file.
http://api.ning.com/files/UNNlkOVukw8cXztJc4bDEq2ztrm9owekwvHofmLwYgxLlpwX8*h1av8amHehbYkmt3Qvxny16Gh1ob8gFYeRrw2HVq-joU7Y/hsarightwingextremism0904071.pdf
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Remember,Rome decayed from within.
Ok, off my soapbox.
i agree. of course, the white male would be called a racist too for not wanting a minority to succed
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If she is elected
What I meant is I will vote in the election but if she wins I will dis-own this country after that. If she gets in it will confirm my beliefs that the people's votes do not count. It's already starting to turn out that way. Clearly Obama is ahead right now, but I am hearing talks of the delegates deciding at the convention who will be the candidate no matter who is ahead. How fair is that??? If he is ahead by the people and the delegates how can the super delegates (who happen to all be on Hillary's side) come in and wipe out all the votes and delegate votes already casted.
Cya. And if they are elected I will still be here...
holding their feet to the fire, with my "Don't Blame Me I Didn't Vote for Them" sticker, and ready with the I told you so's. Y'all come back now...hear?
Must be so empowering to be so smug. Women who are thoughtful and intelligent...who attack another woman (Palin) like snarling dogs but would not attack one of their own? Yeah, loaded with class you thoughtful and intelligent women are. Please. Your actions bely your words.
So, if he is elected -
who is going to be running the country? If he wants to be my candidate, he needs to step up and let us see what he is made of and not let #2 take his spot. I have not yet seen a VP up front in all my years voting as I have seen with this ticket. We should be focusing on the the Presidential candidate and not the VP. I can still be swayed but I am leaning towards the Obama ticket. I need to see a strong presidential candidate - not a strong vice presidential candidate.
I already have next-to-none. If he's elected, at least
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Exactly! It's man's will that O was elected, not God's.
And it is precisely for that reason this country will suffer greatly. Mankind has been putting their human will before the will of God for centuries and this world will not be left to stand much longer because of it. THAT is God's will. And those of us who understand this are safe and secure.
We (as in probably not you) elected him....(sm)
as far as foreign affairs go to restore credibility to the US...and that's what he's doing. -- As opposed to the shrub method of trying to bully the world. Get a grip and try to catch up with the rest of us.
She's not even ready to be elected
That's how W got elected! U mean that was illegal! Huh!
Can't imagine the pubs doing anything illegal.,,,,,,,
All politicians lie to get elected.
We are all fooling ourselves if we thing otherwise. It is literally picking the lesser of two evils. The one thing that I can say is that at least McCain makes decisions. He votes instead of just voting present like Obama and when Obama actually has voted yes or no.....he has consistently said one thing and voted the exact opposite. I just do not think he has the experience or the ability to make executive decisions. I do not trust his associations and I do not have the same values as he does.
If McCain were elected and were to die, she would be...sm
a puppet president with the strings being pulled by the extreme religious right wing. That is why he was under pressure to appoint her. Now they will support McCain, tit for tat.
My advice would have been to have Colin Powell as a running mate, if he would even agree to do so, and to run on proper state of the art care for the injured troops coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan. I think that people would be able to swallow the war if they knew we didn't forget about the vets when they came home.
As I am sure if Obama is elected....
as the babies mount up dying in the closets of hospitals and we turn into a socialist state I will be very, very ill as well...but my conscience will be clear.
Could be that if O is elected, those nations
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How is Obama getting elected ...sm
saying the majority of Americans don't put the country first?
Quite evident, you elected the man who
your guns and your bibles and reelected the man who called you racist rednecks.
Obama said what he had to to get elected. Now
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LOL! How did that woman get elected
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When Obama was elected
those who supported the opposition and who warned of the types of sweeping changes to come during his presidency were told not to jump to conclusions based on what he had said during the campaign, or with whom he had chosen to associate throughout his life but to ''give him a chance'' to show the American people what he would actually do. We were told that racial prejudice and sour grapes were behind our feelings and that Obama would prove himself worthy of the office. To me, in just four months he has proven the exact opposite and further demonstrated a lack of character.
I did not necessarily want McCain in office. I voted the ''NObama'' ticket because I felt McCain would be slightly less destructive to our country and because I was pretty sure he is not a marxist. Voting third party would have been a wasted vote.
Sure, had McCain been elected I would have told his opposition to give him a chance to prove his worth as well. (I believe McCain's character has already been proven; I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong.) But if he then demonstrated himself, through his words and actions, to be a screwup and/or a liar I would be posting exactly the same type of opinion.
I doubt he will be elected again.......... sm
because I doubt there will even be an election in 2012. At the rate things are going now, I can well imagine Obama invoking martial law prior to the election and making himself into a dictator. Chavez would be so proud.
The Bush was not elected song is getting old.
To truly prove you are not bitter, try not mentionig it again. It seems the left has enough problems with Bush without bringing that up. JFK was not legally elected either. Historians now know that Illinois was bought for him by papa. Life goes on. But the bitterness of carrying around a load of rage just never seems to leave.
Once either one is elected we are pretty much powerless...
to hold anyone's feet to the fire. However, the Obama adoring masses here will make excuses no matter how many mistakes he makes or how many promises he does not fulfill. Toe that party line. If you criticize him for not doing what he said he would do, you will be a lonely voice of one I'm afraid.
Yes, I will be watching McCain/Palin to see if they keep campaign promises. Because if someone does not find a way to work in a bipartisan manner, both parties are going to continue messing us over and doing what is best for their pocketbooks and political careers. They need to forget party after the election and get about the people's business. And only one candidate has said right up front he will be on them to make them do that. That is why I am voting for him.
From a national security standpoint, I think Obama is a huge, huge mistake.
That being said...yes, I will be watching.
you won't have any $ left if this commie gets elected. nm
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McCain is not 80. He would be if elected 2 terms (nm)
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So you don't care if Obama is elected only by
voters who don't actually exist......including illegals?
I might have to if your man gets elected. Maybe we'll be co workers nm
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Difference being if elected, SP will be in a position to
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LOL....better hurry because if Obama gets elected...
he will be after your moose gun. lol.
I am not fearful. I am resigned....he was elected.
And he is NOT "my" President yet, just like Bush was not yours. Let's be real here.
I understand that you think socialism will work. I understand that HE thinks socialism will work. Just like Che Guevara thought socialism would work, which is why he participated in the revolution which turned Cuba socialist. When he realized that it was NOT what he thought it would be, he moved on to Bolivia to participate in another revolution. The people of Venezuela have realized that all socialism got them was Hugo Chavez.
As I said, we will see how far Obama wants to go with it. The saving grace is that the senate did not get the filibuster-proof majority they wanted, so that in and of itself may rein in his socialist ambitions.
Will just have to wait and see.
O was elected the future president, so....sm
the only thing that we can do NOW is sit back and WAIT for O's actions.
But give him ROOM FOR ACTION, without criticizing every little decision.
You know, he IS the future president, time to accept it and, as Kaydie's father states, to adapt to it.
had McCain been elected, then you would be in a trance...nm
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Hamas was democratically elected by
the Palestinian National Authority and has won many local elections in Gaza, Qalqila and Nablus. The hold 72 of the 136 seats in the Palestinian Parliament, having unseated the former Fatah ruling party. Apparently, the Palestinian people do not agree with O.
He will have quite a dilemma on his hands reconciling this rhetoric with what democracy looks like in the Middle East, so let the games begin.
Nah, Bush was the first illegally elected.
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That is really funny.......Obama got elected
BECAUSE so many who voted for him really didn't listen to anything from anybody. Those on the street made fools of themselves by not even knowing anything about him, who his running mate was, or what his policies were........ yea, they didn't listen alright.....ignorant all the way to the bank to cash that free paycheck!
If they had been elected, absolutely they would be my President -
I am a citizen of the United States of America, thus the elected President is my President! I don't get to say just because I do not like him he is not my President. He is the leader of the country that I love whether I like him/her or support him/her or not.
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