Looks as if Obama made it worse.
Posted By: Sunflower on 2009-04-13
In Reply to: AP: "Analysis: Obama Beats First National - Marmann
If Obama is the hero for rescuing the Captain, what will happen now if pirates get a hold of more US ships?
(CNN) -- Two pirates in Somalia vowed revenge Monday, after the U.S. military killed three pirates and freed a U.S. ship captain who had been held hostage for several days.
Crew members of the Maersk Alabama celebrate after hearing the Navy had rescued their captain from pirates.
Crew members of the Maersk Alabama celebrate after hearing the Navy had rescued their captain from pirates.
The pirates told a Somali journalist that they were angered by the U.S. action, as well as a French raid Friday that killed two pirates and one hostage and freed four hostages.
"We have decided to kill U.S. and French sailors if they happen to be among our future hostages," said Abdullahi Ahmed, a member of a pirate group based at Harardhere, a coastal town in central Somalia.
Members of the U.S. Navy shot and killed three pirates who had been holding Capt. Richard Phillips hostage in a lifeboat on Sunday evening, a military official said. The pirates seized Phillips after a failed attempt to hijack his ship, the Maersk Alabama.
For five days the pirates held Phillips in the lifeboat as U.S. Navy ships closed in and lingered nearby.
On Sunday, U.S. Navy snipers opened fire on the lifeboat after seeing one pirate point an AK-47 at the captain's back, the U.S. military said. The shootings occurred as one pirate was aboard the USS Bainbridge negotiating over Phillips' fate. Video Watch how SEALs shot three pirates »
Three pirates in the lifeboat were killed. Phillips was not hurt. He was taken to another U.S. Navy vessel, the U.S. military said, where he received a medical checkup and spoke by phone with his wife in the United States. Video Watch admiral tell how rescue went down »
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Pirates in Somalia identified the slain men as Mohamed Ahmed Adawe, Nur Dalabey and Khalif Guled. Two of them -- Dalabey and Guled -- were among the "most experienced men" in a group that has hijacked seagoing vessels for money, Ahmed said.
They were killed two days after the French military freed four hostages, including a child, who had been held by pirates for nearly a week on a yacht off Somalia's coast. In that operation, a hostage and two pirates were killed, the French Defense Ministry said, while three pirates were captured. Video Watch how pirates roam a vast area of ocean »
The military actions angered Ali Nur, a pirate who is based in Gara'ad, a coastal village in the semi-autonomous region of Puntland, in northern Somalia.
"From now on, after the killings by the U.S. and France, we will add some harsher steps in our dealings with hostages, particularly American and French hostages," Nur told a journalist.
The U.S. military acknowledged Sunday that its actions to rescue Phillips could increase the risk of violence.
"This could escalate violence in this part of the world. No question about it," U.S. Navy Vice Adm. Bill Gortney told reporters.
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Nur issued a warning to the United States.
"The killing of our boys was aggression, and the U.S. will see what they get from their operation," he said.
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and will get worse if Obama and big gov't take over.
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It will only get much worse with Obama in charge
He promotes that divide.....he just has a sneaky way of doing it. He lets others do their talking up there, while he says nothing against their racist remarks. The NAACP for instance was formed way back when but really has no place in our society today. Now think about this......if there were a group for ONLY whites (and I don't mean the KKK) which is no doubt where many minds will go, wouldn't there be an uproar about that. They would be called racists....how dare they promote WHITE opportunities, jobs, educations, etc. You're right, forming special interest groups does nothing to promite equality, but I can guarantee you will see more and more racists things coming down the pike; just hide and watch.
So far, they have singled out white males to not give jobs to.....now if a leader sat up there and said those same words about blacks, it would hit the fan and you know it.....
Funny how the liberals just sit up and there and keep their mouths shut, most of them all the way to being without a job, as they are white males as well.
Things could get worse with Obama..
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What is worse, anyone who questions Obama's
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You lefties are so naive. Obama has plans for worse for our nation.
Well...no, I didn't see any of the gaffes Obama made on...
Fox or Rush Limbaugh so you are "sure" wrong about that. Actually, on CNN...HARDLY a conservative outlet.
Some of Obama's "misstatements:"
Obama Gaffes on Iraq and Afghanistan
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ABC News' David Wright and Sunlen Miller Report: Sporting a shiny new American flag pin at an appearance in Rush Limbaugh's hometown, Sen. Barack Obama came up with some novel reasons why the U.S. may be struggling in the war in Afghanistan.
"We don't have enough capacity right now to deal with it -- and it's not just the troops," Obama, D-Ill., told a crowd in Cape Girardeau, Missouri.
Obama posited -- incorrectly -- that Arabic translators deployed in Iraq are needed in Afghanistan -- forgetting, momentarily, that Afghans don't speak Arabic.
"We only have a certain number of them and if they are all in Iraq, then its harder for us to use them in Afghanistan," Obama said.
The vast majority of military translators in both war zones are drawn from the local population.
Naturally they speak the local language. In Iraq, that's Arabic or Kurdish. In Afghanistan, it's any of a half dozen other languages -- including Pashtu, Dari, and Farsi.
No sooner did Obama realize his mistake -- and correct himself -- but he immediately made another.
"We need agricultural specialists in Afghanistan, people who can help them develop other crops than heroin poppies, because the drug trade in Afghanistan is what is driving and financing these terrorist networks. So we need agricultural specialists," he said.
So far, so good.
"But if we are sending them to Baghdad, they're not in Afghanistan," Obama said.
Iraq has many problems, but encouraging farmers to grow food instead of opium poppies isn't one of them. In Iraq, oil fields not poppy fields are a major source of U.S. technical assistance.
My comment: Ahem. Different countries mixed up did you say about McCain? Looks like Mr. Obama has that same problem.
In June 2008, Obama Misstated The Name Of Brownsville, TX:
Obama: "So if you've got a wall that's cutting the campus of the University of Texas in Brownville in half…" (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks At The NALEO Conference, Washington, DC, 6/28/08)
In June 2008, Obama Falsely Claimed His Father Served In World War II:
Obama: "My father served in World War II, and when he came home, he got the services that he needed." (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks At The NALEO Conference, Washington, DC, 6/28/08)
On May 23, Obama Mistakenly Says He's In "Sunshine" At Rally In Sunrise, Florida
Obama: "How's it going Sunshine? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you everybody. It's good to be in Sunshine!" (Barack Obama, Campaign Rally, Sunrise, FL, 5/23/08)
South Florida Sun-Sentinel: "It Wasn't Clear If Barack Obama Knew Exactly Where He Was Friday Afternoon …" "It wasn't clear if Barack Obama knew exactly where he was Friday afternoon when he spoke at his mass rally at the BankAtlantic Center. He repeatedly used the term 'Sunshine' as a place name rather than 'Sunrise,' the city where the arena is located, including, 'How's it going Sunshine? Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you everybody. It's good to be in Sunshine.'" ("Did Obama Know Where He Was For Sunrise Rally?" South Florida Sun-Sentinel Blog, 5/24/08)
On May 16, Obama Mistakenly Says He's In Sioux City At Sioux Falls, SD Rally. Obama: "Illinois Sen. Barack Obama started his speech tonight with a gaffe. 'Thank you Sioux City,' he said, before realizing his mistake." ("Obama Starts Speech With Gaffe," Sioux Falls Argus Leader, 5/16/08)
My Comment: If you are correct and what you say reflects your intellect, then one would think Obama doesn't even know where he is half the time....?
"I think that DOMA, the Defense Against Marriage Act, was, was a (sic) unnecessary imposition on what had been the traditional rules governing marriage and how states interact on the issues of marriage." – Barack Obama, referring to the Defense Of Marriage Act (DOMA), 7/1/08
Obama Called Rapid City Grand Rapids. Obama: "We were in Grand Rapids with a—or Grand? – Rapid City. See I've been talking to long." (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks At A Campaign Event, Aberdeen, SC, 5/31/08)
On May 9, Obama Claimed To Have Visited 57 States. Obama: "Because, you know, it is just wonderful to be back in Oregon, and over the last 15 months we've traveled to every corner of the United States. I've now been in 57 states, I think, one left to go. One left to go, Alaska and Hawaii I was not allowed to go to even though I really wanted to visit, but my staff would not justify it." (Sen. Barack Obama, Remarks At A Campaign Event, Beaverton, OR, 5/9/08)
On May 5, Obama Called Matt Lauer "Tim" Three Times In One Interview, Had To Be Corrected By Lauer. Obama: "Well, I think what it is, Tim, is, you know, that no person is defined by a few snippets taken over the course of a number of years …Well, Tim, I think that all of us have people in our lives who may have done some good things, and then we also see them doing some things that are disappointing. … Well, Tim, first of all, it's not me who's criticized these proposals." … NBC's Matt Lauer: "I just want to say, I know you've had a very long week, and so have I. You're saying Tim. I know, it's Matt Lauer. But believe me, I completely understand." Obama: "Matt, I'm sorry." Lauer: "We've both had a long week, Senator, believe me." (NBC's "Today," 5/5/08)
My final comment: These are not all the gaffes. There are many more. Just like you could post a bunch McCain has made and every other politician who ever ran...again, it has nothing to do with their minds. People misspeak, especially people who are called upon to speak as much as Presidential candidates. But if you can manage to be fair about this...if you think McCain is weak-minded because he misspeaks, then you should say the same thing about Obama...because he misspeaks just as often. And, no offense, if people would get away from the hard left (or right) blogs and quoting hard left (or right) media and look up things for themselves...they would see that most of the things said about EITHER candidate can usually be found about the other one as well with a little research. But, of course, you have to want to know the TRUTH, whatever it is...to research BOTH sides....and, bottom line...when people misspeak, it does not indicate they have a "mind" problem...but if it DID, Obama seems to be similarly "afflicted."
And a little tidbit about Fox News....they have as many dem Fox New contributors as Repub...Howard Wolfson, Bob Beckel to name two...and many more whose names I can't remember. When they have a Repub pundit, they always have a Dem pundit with him/her. That is more than I can say for most media outlets. And for the record, I am neither Dem nor Repub...Independent.
Obama made the same statement long before
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Obama made it very clear to Joe the Plumber....
Were you listening? He explained it very clearly. He was going to tax Joe at a higher rate and give that money to people "below Joe" so "they would have a chance too." That is NOT American, that is socialism. Out of Obama's own mouth. The man is a socialist, and because you refuse to see it or see it and don't care, it does not make it less true.
To use your words...run and hide if you like.
And Michelle Obama has made it clear
that her children come first. From what I've personally seen, I can't imagine those parents allowing ANYTHING or ANYONE to harm their children and that all they want for their children are bright, healthy, prosperous futures -- just like all American parents do.
Yet, some people on this board even want to suggest that getting these girls a PUPPY is something evil with questionable motive. It's just unbelievable! 
All the promises made by President Obama.
President Barrack Obama has made a huge list of promises. As you can see, some promises he has already broken and we aren't even into his presidency a whole week yet.
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Yes, that speech made Obama look like a robot.
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Well, Obama just made an obvious oops!!!
Obama says his tax cuts will help those in poverty get out of poverty........ how so? Those making "poverty" wages DON'T pay taxes.............. like so very many that put him in office. I'm so sick of listening to him give lip service, all the time knowing he's pulling good ones over on the more ignorant of our country!
For those buying homes, if they couldn't afford $8000.00 dollars in the first place, why in the heck are they even being given loans to buy a home with an $8K credit? And please, for those that think this is wonderful, don't even bother to try to glorify this. This is nothing more than giving people who shouldn't have homes in the first place ANOTHER avenue to get a home..... then when they can't pay the actual mortgage, the ones who do pay their mortages will be BAILING THEM OUT AGAIN!!
If you're needing that small amount of money (and yes it is a small amount considering the big picture), you shouldn't be buying a house because you should be able to have saved the down payment in the first place.......... Obama talks out of both sides of his mouth.
McCain was talking about how many trips Obama had made to...
Iraq...constantly talking about Iraq and what was going on there and never having been there, though many other senators had. Anyone paying attention knows that. Obama's little trip to Germany was part and parcel of his "I am a citizen of the world" hoohah. Had nothing to do with what McCain said. And yes, he finally DID go to Iraq, and well he SHOULD. And he knows that the surge worked, but he would die before he admitted it. That is what I HATE about politics. Politicians (none of them) ever say what they think or they feel...only what they think you want to hear. I hate the pandering and dishonesty, on both sides. It reeks.
Obama has never made an appointment to the supreme court
You need to be contacting your republican representatives.
This is even WORSE!
You obviously can't come up with anything other than the religious right's OPINION of Phil Donahue. I won't waste my time reading any more of your so-called *proof.*
Believe it or not, just because you IMAGINE something to be true doesn't make it so.
This is how they know Phil Donahue and others on their hit list are athiests (copied from their site):
Most of the time, you can tell what a person believes by their lifestyle and the words that come from their mouth. An atheist has a hard time believing in anything other than his/her own reason. Reason is something that was given to man to be able to deduce solutions to problems. It is also able to make us feel like gods when we place more value on our own knowledge than what is told in the Bible.
There is hope for atheists, for God is drawing all people to Christ. Will they listen? Every atheist who has died now knows the truth and is no longer an atheists; famous or otherwise.
And this would be worse than
a president that thinks God choose him to be president to facilitate Armageddon?
we have put up with worse, think
kennedy family. In fact, there is a lot they never told us in school about almost all of them. I don't know the whole story on mccain, but I do know he is the only one running with any sense of military. Obama says he will consult with his wife and grandmother, McCain says the generals. as far as addiction, they are very clever at hiding things from their families. I have known several through the years with alcohol problems, same thing. Betty Ford Clinic. How come nobody cares about sporting figures or hollywood stars or singers? and yes, some of them do end up in politics before you go there. The truth is, the whole world is jaded and traditional values don't mean anything anymore, or at least it seems that way. I want to see a politician I CAN trust, who can take the hard road when he has to, and I think he will have to. I also take note of the fact that no democracy has much staying power after the morales have gone, when debauchery is the norm, and everybody grows tolerant, then you will soon see a lost nation.
Nothing worse than......
being blackmailed by someone to get our votes.........
which is worse . . . .
being called bitter or being called a redneck?
which is worse? .....sm
....the person doing the name calling.
None of it sticks, because it isn't true, and just reflects back on the poor judgment and character of those trying their darnest to be upsetting.
Worse
I heard last night that many of the forclosures are on loans made to illegal aliens because our government passed a law that something or other, I wasn't aware before, that had to give so many loans to them. So I say again, what I've said all along, our government allowing unbridled illegal immigration was going to, and now has bankrupted us. They take free medical care, free education, ALL the freebies and still want more. RIDICULOUS!!!!
Well, I for one don't know anyone who is worse off now than
4 or 5 years ago. Sure, we have taken a hit in the market, but the market always comes back, and that isn't our main source of investment anyway. In our circle of friends, who make between 75K to 500K a year, we don't know anyone who has not been able to make a house payment, CC payment, can't afford to send their kids to college, etc. Speaking for DH and I, we have never been late on any payment, never had an NSF, never over spent our CC limit. Not everyone is in dire financial straits. I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who are in our situation who have planned for the future instead of living for today only. It is not uncommon or unheard of for people to be living within their means. I guess O considers us rich at 250K a year; wait until he decides that he needs to lower that figure to get the money he will need for all his "social programs" he wants to institute.
Joy is worse!
Joy is arrogant and nasty. Barbara Walters is getting pretty bad too. It may be because I agree with Elizabeth most of the time that I like her, but I cannot even stand the sound of Joy's voice, and those lovely faces she makes are great! I like Sherry, even though I usually don't agree with what she says.
No. Will most likely be much worse now with all
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I'm the same - its getting worse and worse
Purposely hiding his relationships? The first thing I thought of was treason.
It's even worse than that!
They don't vote themselves a raise - it's automatically built in so that someone has to introduce legislation and then have enough backers to stop the raise! That hasn't happened in eight years! Wouldn't you just love to have a $4,700 raise come January? I'd be happy with just half of that, considering I haven't had a raise in, well, ever!!!
Here's what I don't understand - why is it that we elect these people, basically hiring them, to work for us. Every time an election rolls around, all the policitians can talk about is how they work for us. Why is it that when one of them screws up, like Blago for instance, we, the employers of these people, can't fire them? Why is it that the government then has to get involved to "impeach" them, even as they sit in office and continue signing bills into legislature? We should be able to sign a petition basically firing that politician and kicking him/her out to the curb, right then and there. I know that then creates the position that there is no one filling that job - so the idea still needs some work, but I just don't understand why we have the "power" to employ someone, but not the power to get rid of them when they're not doing their job. You and I can't get away with that!
I saw the thing about the furniture being thrown out as well and yes, that just burned me up. Why couldn't they have donated that furniture to a homeless shelter or a Salvation Army? And why is it that when new senators and reps come in, they get to change their whole office - even paint! I liked the idea that another poster had about keeping all the politicians in their own states, a little closer to home, so they could see how their decisions affect the people who employ them.
I think I need to take a break from this board - I'm gonna get carpal tunnel from here, not from working! LOL!!!
I don't think it's any worse than..(sm)
most other commercials out there. It's a proven fact that sex sells. As far as healthy relationships, I would much rather my daughter have a healthy *relationship* with broccoli than something that comes with the risks of disease and pregnancy....ROFL.....LONG LIVE THE VEGGIES...
I would say that's no worse than...(sm)
than the famous AMA and Reagan's venture call the HMO.
How do you know it is worse? We should do nothing?
let the market take care of itself? We are living that way of thinking right now.
It will only get worse...
But goodness will always prevail. Nothing good about same-sex sexual relationships.
You mean it could get worse?
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This is worse than sad. This is delusional.
It's the anti-American pathos of the left that leads to brain rot. I've seen it happen before. First they start calling everyone a liar, then they say they are hateful, then comes the Christian bashing and labeling. Next, brain fluid will start to leak onto the keyboard, but they won't notice because their mind is gone, I tell you, GONE.
It's no worse than what has been done on our board. sm
We just don't whine about it.
Sorry, the link looks worse than it is.
Just right click the square box and open link. Sorry.
Biden is much worse. I think the guy has
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And even worse, 2 heartbeats away...
God forbid, Nancy Pelosi.
I have certainly been called worse.
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I hope so too, but just when you think it can't get any worse
It is disgusting to see that the poster who replied to the ugly post above actually thinks that frail, elderly, living, breathing Americans who take their citizenship seriously enough to barely make it to the early polls and back home again should be DISREGARDED if they die. What is that? With any luck, they both are sterile.
Did you ever think things could get worse in this
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You are in an even worse position than I am...
at least my mortgage is a fixed rate mortgage with a reasonable interest rate - not as low as what is being offered to those who are defaulting, but not too bad in the grand scheme of things. So--good luck to you!!!
Could be worse. There is talk that...
California is actually going to give IOUs to state employees instead of paychecks. Now, that is rough! But you can bet that if the state employee owes taxes this year, they will not be permitted to send one in.
It could be worse - you could be a politician!
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Yes, I truly think we will get a worse deal...
...with universal healthcare than we have now. If you want to screw something up royally, give it to the gummint to run.
Good lord! Look at Canada or the UK, who have socialized medicine. You go into a Canadian clinic. It's a walk-in system. They don't make appointments. You take a number, which is 51. Number fifty is called. Then it's quitting time. You get sent home to come back another day and try your luck again. Need an MRI? Take a number. We'lll call you in 4-6 months - or you could go to the US for it. Need bypass surgery? We'll see about that.
It will become a triage system: You, sir, are 60 years old and overweight. Your cholesterol is too high. Why should we waste our precious resources on you when younger and more viable specimens are stacking up outside? No, you may not have an angioplasty - at least not this decade. NEXT!
Socialized medicine is a pretty good deal if you're young and don't need a lot of services - not so very good when you reach an age when you actually do need them.
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OH NO!!!! He's much worse than a socialist....
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Well you know if there is a worse outcome
from this, the O lovers will never admit that the messiah had anything to do with it. Then it will be all the Navy Seals fault. They will throw the seals under the bus while they continue to praise their lord.
Abuse in Iraq as bad or worse
What I would like to know is this: Where is the outrage from all those who were so eager to go in and get *the brutal dictator*?
Abuse in Iraq as bad or worse than in Saddam's day: Allawi
LONDON (AFP) - Human rights abuses in Iraq now are as bad, or worse, than they when Saddam Hussein was in power, the nation's first post-Saddam prime minister was quoted as saying.
In an interview with the Observer newspaper in London, Iyad Allawi pointed an accusing finger at the interior ministry, and alleged that a lot of Iraqis are being tortured or killed during interrogation.
People are doing the same as (in) Saddam Hussein's time and worse, said Allawi, an prominent opponent of Saddam who steered the US-backed interim government in Baghdad until April this year.
It is an appropriate comparison. People are remembering the days of Saddam. These were the precise reasons that we fought Saddam Hussein and now we are seeing the same things.
Allawi's remarks came two weeks after US troops raided a secret prison in Iraq and found about 170 detainees in need of water, food and medical attention.
Graphic pictures released by the Committee of Muslim Scholars, the main Sunni religious organisation in Iraq, showed prisoners with severe burns, massive bruising and welts on their bodies.
US military commanders and diplomats called the abuse intolerable, pressuring elected prime minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari into ordering a joint Iraqi-US inquiry.
Interior Minister Bayan Baqer Solagh has denied claims that he commands death squads targeting the Sunni minority, adding that only a few detainees were punched and hit in the prison and that US forces knew of its existence.
Allawi told The Observer that the interior ministry, though not Solagh, was at the heart of the matter.
I am not blaming the minister himself, but the rank and file are behind the secret dungeons and some of the executions that are taking place, he was quoted as saying.
He also said: We are hearing about secret police, secret bunkers where people are being interrogated.
A lot of Iraqis are being tortured or killed in the course of interrogations. We are even witnessing Sharia courts based on Islamic law that are trying people and executing them.
He said that if immediate action is not taken, the disease infecting (the interior ministry) will become contagious and spread to all ministries and structures of Iraq's government.
More broadly, Allawi warned of the danger of Iraq disintegrating in chaos, saying: Iraq is the centrepiece of this region. If things go wrong, neither Europe nor the United States will be safe.
Which image problem is worse?
Assuming image problems are of any importance whatsoever in the grand scheme of things. Yet there are some who continue to insist this is their "legitimate concern." Can this get any more juvenile?
Either one sucks. Politics at its worse.
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I have to say this board is worse than the media
Yes, I'm both people...don't know how that happened but I'm both Kaydie and me (just wanted to make sure people didn't think I was trying to be evasive or sneaky or something)
Talk about instanteous cut downs without even doing any research.
I stopped watching MSNBC when they cut her down for no reason. I listen to FOX to a certain extent (I cannot stomach Hannity - think he is the most condescending irrational person on TV - he makes my skin crawl), but I'm trying to go everywhere to hear view points. But this board is bad. Because I so strongly supported Barack until yesterday, when I opened my mind and started learning more about her and her experience and what she has done for the people of her state the more I like her. I almost feel like I've come off of some drug-induced high or something and can see clearly now. I'll admit - I still like Obama (though I'll get some criticism from some on that), I just like Sarah more and I think she would be a better President than Obama.
Don't you think that is a bit extreme? She is no worse than anybody else and at least she doesn&
I may disagree with most of what she says but she doesn't resort to name calling, except maybe in sarcasm. I would even go so far as to say she is doing some actual debating, albeit maybe a bit much.
Ive wished for worse things.........................
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