Looking at a smaller picture...
Posted By: Old part-timer on 2009-03-21
In Reply to: I just don't get it - ok
While the government money is going to bail out AIG and for pork programs, here in Pennsylvania, Philadelphia is closing libraries and pools, cutting firefighters and police. And they are still looking a huge deficit and intend to raise property taxes 18% this year. Low and lower middle class people who are already struggling, who are looking at the grim possibility of losing their jobs, are now being hit with that. And whether they own or rent makes no difference; if the taxes go up, their rent will go up.
But, oh boy, it's much more important to keep AIG going and to invest in "green programs" for clean energy. What good is any of that going to do for the soon-to-be-homeless people of Philadelphia?
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,,,wow, even smaller...
A newer article mentions only 3591 workers total (for all 3 automakers) in the program!
Smaller government, lower taxes...
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sorry, picture did not take...
here is the link:
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/politics/politico/main501563.shtml
It shows that the picture missing is the politico logo.
:-)
picture not there
but I have seen it elsewhere. speaks volumes, doesn't it? Everyone else on that podium had their hands on their hearts, his were at his side.
Get this picture
You are absolutely correct, I don't want anything shoved down my throat and nothing will be. My question is when you see anything on the politics board that even remotely mentions religion, why not just click off of it and don't go about reading it much less posting a reply? When our religious beliefs affect our political views, why on earth would we not be allowed to express those opinions? You certainly don't have to agree. I certainly have no problem with atheists, agnostics or whatever posting their lack of religious views that affect their political views. It seems to me that non-believers protest way too much about something they don't believe in.
OMG - thanks a lot, now that's all I have a picture of LOL
HA HA HA HA HA
Piper Laurie sure was good in that roll though.
The picture is even bigger than you think.
More smoke and mirrors from Bush. 
Doctored picture? nm
nm
This is cute & I can picture him saying something like that...sm
Just reading thru some posts on here now. I guess I missed quite a bit. I have started on a new account and it is taking me 12 hours instead of 8 to get my lines.
what IS wrong with the picture?
I'm not watching TV and I don't know exactly what you are referring too, but is SP supposed to land in the midst of the hurricane, instead of Fairbanks, in order to be a good person??
you could ask for a picture ballot
so you don't get confused and vote for a horse or something.
You really need to look at the bigger picture
Of course you care about your interest rate on your home, but neither candidate is going to 'solve' this horrific crisis, because there is no ONE reason for it! It is very complicated but as Americans, its our responsibility to TRY to understand it better so that we can demand the right course of actioN from ALL parties involved.
ONE FACT: When wages are stagnant an economy cannot grow - and that DEFINITELY is playing into what is happening in the financial crisis. Ask yourself which candidate is for INCREASING wages and fighting for equal pay for women and men...
Don't depend on SAM or anyone else to help you decide, use the power of the internet to educate yourself.
IF you like war and bleeding the treasury to ensure we have more of it, and more enemies to boot, then McCain is your man.
Im not enamoured of Obama either, so I'm not selling him to you either. That said, he ALWAYS opposed Bush's fake war - which has cost us HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS. Gee, where could we have put that $ to better use? Remember IRAQ did not attack us in 2001; the majority of attackers came from SAUDI ARABIA.
Why? Because they demanded we remove our military bases from their lands and we did not comply. After they attacked us, we attacked Iraq and guess what? WE MOVED THE MILITARY BASES TO IRAQ to appease Saudi Arabia.
Think this has nothing to do with you getting a good rate on your new home?
THINK AGAIN. As long as Americans choose their leaders based on cute lines in debates, we are destined to be robbed again and again and again.
You must look at WHAT THEY WILL DELIVER based on their past record. MCCain will give you more of the last 8 years.
But again, that's my opinion. Please care enough to do your own research, which you will believe more than anything a stranger tells you anyway.
need to view the big picture
Gut reaction is to say let the fail. I was not in favor of the bailout as proposed; however, common sense tells me that there has to be some plan. It isn't a question of stocks falling; it is a question of the economic structure of the US failing completely. I do want to save their "greedy banker butts" (to use your words) but you need to think of the bigger picture. You talk about a drop in stock, retirement, possible lower value of your home and no loan for college. How about drop in stock and savings and checking and everything to zero. How about losing your home, not having a job, not being able to afford food or clothing? Do you understand the consequence of no fix to this problem goes way beyond "bailing out their greedy banker butts." It is just not wall street here, it is the entire American economy.
boy, this really paints the picture of
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Did you see the picture of O at his ceremony?
Creeped me out. I recall no president having a big picture of himself. Reminded me of Hitler and Sadam Hussein times.
Lets look at the big picture
Seems like each time a president leaves office everyone "hems and haws" at the list of people they pardon (especially those who dislike whatever president is leaving office). Every exiting president has had their list of people who should never have received pardons. Some yes, like first time offenders, people arrested for mairjuana, or caught turning back odometers, etc).
Maybe you should have also posted the list of people Clinton pardoned. All you said was "he pardoned some nice ones too". You make it sound like GW is pardoning hardened criminal while BC only pardoned some people who did petty crimes. Even though you didn't say that, by saying "he pardoned some nice ones too" it takes away from the seriousness of the people he did pardon. But since you didn't post Clinton's pardons I will. Now before anyone throws a fit because I know a lot of you think Clinton is the best thing since sliced bread, I'm just posting to show that he pardoned as many creeps as Bush is. (BTW - I didn't, have never, and do not support Bush - can't stand the guy, but at let's try to keep it honest here). Oh and my favorites are the money launderers, income tax evaders, bank fraud, conspiracy to defraud the government, issuing worthless checks, bank fraud, etc - all those things that helped to start bringing our economy down). Those and Roger Clinton, Marc Rich, and Susan McDougal, I did notice how he pardoned a lot of people who lied, but then again that was Clinton's whole 8 years in office - one lie after another, so doesn't surprise me he pardoned people who lied under oath.
You said something in regards to food stamps...look at #22 on Clintons list - Unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps. I found an interesting article called "10 Heated Presidential Pardons" that goes back to George Washington. I'll post the link. All I'm saying here is that each president throughout our history has pardoned some pretty bad people that should not be pardoned. GW is no different and no more worse than any of the previous. Here's the article - an interesting read.
http://www.kitv.com/presidential-race/17578058/detail.html
Here's the list of Clinton's pardons
[edit] Pardons
- Verla Jean Allen (1990 false statements to an agency of the United States).[4]
- Nicholas M. Altiere (1983 importation of cocaine)
- Bernice Ruth Altschul (1992 money laundering conspiracy)
- Joe Anderson Jr. (1988 income tax evasion)
- William Sterling Anderson (1987 defraudment of a financial institution, false statements to a financial institution, wire fraud)
- Mansour Azizkhani (1984 false statements in bank loan applications)
- Cleveland Victor Babin Jr. (1987 using the U.S. mail service to defraud)
- Chris Harmon Bagley (1989 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
- Scott Lynn Bane (Unlawful distribution of marijuana)
- Thomas Cleveland Barber (Issuing worthless checks)
- Peggy Ann Bargon (Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act)
- David Roscoe Blampied (possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
- William Arthur Borders Jr. (Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery)
- Arthur David Borel (Odometer Rollback)
- Douglas Charles Borel (Odometer Rollback)
- George Thomas Brabham (Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank)
- Almon Glenn Braswell (1983 mail fraud and perjury)
- Leonard Browder (Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud)
- David Steven Brown (Securities fraud and mail fraud)
- Delores Caroylene Burleson, aka Delores Cox Burleson (Possession of Marijuana)
- John H. Bustamante (wire fraud)
- Mary Louise Campbell (Unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps)
- Eloida Candelaria (False information in registering to vote)
- Dennis Sobrevinas Capili (Filing false statements in alien registration)
- Donna Denise Chambers (Intent to distribute cocaine)
- Douglas Eugene Chapman (Bank fraud)
- Ronald Keith Chapman (Bank fraud)
- Francisco Larois Chavez (Aiding and abetting illegal entry of aliens)
- Henry Cisneros (former HUD Secretary)
- Roger Clinton, Jr. Cocaine charges(half-brother of President Bill Clinton)[3]
- Stuart Harris Cohn (Illegal sale of commodity options)
- David Marc Cooper (Conspiracy to defraud the government)
- Ernest Harley Cox Jr. (Defraud of federally insured savings and loan)
- John F. Cross Jr. (Embezzlement)
- Rickey Lee Cunningham (Intent to distribute marijuana)
- Richard Anthony DE Labio (Mail fraud)
- John Deutch (former Director of Central Intelligence Agency)
- Richard Douglas (False statements to a government agent)
- Edward Reynolds Downe (Wire fraud, false income tax returns and securities fraud)
- Marvin Dean Dudley (False statements)
- Larry Lee Duncan
- Galen R. Elmore (Convicted of cattle theft)
- Robert Clinton Fain
- Marcos Arcenio Fernandez
- Alvarez Ferrouillet
- Henry O. Flipper - guilty of "conduct unbecoming an officer" (1882)
- William Dennis Fugazy
- Lloyd Reid George
- Louis Goldstein
- Rubye Lee Gordon
- Pincus Green
- Robert Ivey Hamner
- Samuel Price Handley
- Woodie Randolph Handley
- Jay Houston Harmon
- Rick Hendrick
- John Hummingson
- David S. Herdlinger
- Debi Rae Huckleberry
- Warren C. Hultgren Jr.
- Donald Ray James
- Stanley Pruet Jobe
- Ruben H. Johnson
- Linda Jones
- James Howard Lake
- June Louise Lewis
- Salim Bonnor Lewis
- John Leighton Lodwick
- Hildebrando Lopez
- Jose Julio Luaces
- James Timothy Maness
- James Lowell Manning, (1982, aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate income tax return)
- John Robert Martin
- Frank Ayala Martinez
- Silvia Leticia Beltran Martinez
- John Francis McCormick
- Susan H. McDougal
- Howard Mechanic
- Brook K. Mitchell Sr.
- Samuel Loring Morison
- Charles Wilfred Morgan III
- Richard Anthony Nazzaro
- Charlene Ann Nosenko
- Vernon Raymond Obermeier
- Miguelina Ogalde
- David C. Owen
- Robert W. Palmer
- Kelli Anne Perhosky
- Richard H. Pezzopane
- Orville Rex Phillips
- Vinson Stewart Poling Jr.
- James G. Powell
- Norman Lyle Prouse
- Willie H.H. Pruitt Jr.[5]
- Danny Martin Pursley Sr.
- Charles D. Ravenel
- William Clyde Ray
- Alfredo Luna Regalado
- Ildefonso Reynes Ricafort
- Marc Rich
- Howard Winfield Riddle
- Richard Wilson Riley Jr., Cocaine and marijuana charges, His father was Clinton's Education Secretary.[4]
- Samuel Lee Robbins
- Joel Gonzales Rodriguez
- Michael James Rogers
- Anna Louise Ross
- Dan Rostenkowski - Former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal
- Gerald Glen Rust
- Jerri Ann Rust
- Bettye June Rutherford
- Gregory Lee Sands
- Adolph Schwimmer
- Albert A. Seretti Jr.
- Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw
- Dennis Joseph Smith
- Gerald Owen Smith
- Stephen A. Smith
- Jimmie Lee Speake
- Charles Bernard Stewart
- Marlena Francisca Stewart-Rollins
- Fife Symington III - former Arizona governor
- Richard Lee Tannehill
- Nicholas C. Tenaglia
- Gary Allen Thomas
- Larry Weldon Todd
- Olga C. Trevino
- Ignatious Vamvouklis
- Patricia A. Van De Weerd
- Christopher V. Wade
- Bill Wayne Warmath
- Jack Kenneth Watson
- Donna Lynn Webb
- Donald William Wells
- Robert H. Wendt
- Jack L. Williams
- Kavin Arthur Williams
- Robert Michael Williams
- Jimmie Lee Wilson
- Thelma Louise Wingate
- Mitchell Couey Wood
- Warren Stannard Wood
- Dewey Worthey
- Rick Allen Yale
- Joseph A. Yasak
- William Stanley Yingling
- Phillip David Young
- Keith Sanders
- Darren Muci
- John Scott (not a full pardon)
[edit] Commutations
- Ronald Henderson Blackley
- Bert Wayne Bolan
- Gloria Libia Camargo
- Charles F. Campbell
- David Ronald Chandler - federal death row inmate[1].
- Lau Ching Chin
- Donald R. Clark
- Loreta De-Ann Coffman
- Derrick Curry
- Velinda Desalus
- Jacob Elbaum
- Linda Sue Evans
- Loretta Sharon Fish
- Antoinette M. Frink
- David Goldstein
- Gerard A. Greenfield
- Bob F. Griffin, former Speaker of the Missouri House of Representatives, who was serving two years on bribery charges[3]
- Jodie E. Israel
- Kimberly Johnson
- Billy Thornton Langston Jr.
- Belinda Lynn Lumpkin
- Peter MacDonald - Navajo Chairman (sentence for 14 years in 1993 for fraud and racketeering convictions.)
- Kellie Ann Mann
- Peter Ninemire
- Hugh Ricardo Padmore
- Arnold Paul Prosperi Florida attorney, tax fraud. managed Clinton's 1967 campaign for student-council president.[2]
- Melvin J. Reynolds - Democratic Congressman from Illinois - bank fraud and obstruction of justice
- Pedro Miguel Riveiro
- Dorothy Rivers - lead official in Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, plead guilty to theft of 1.2 million dollars in federal grant money
- Susan Rosenberg
- Kalmen Stern
- Cory Stringfellow
- Carlos Anibal Vignali - convicted of cocaine trafficking
- Thomas Wilson Waddell III
- Harvey Weinig
- Kim Allen Willis
- Kemba Smith
- Antonio Camacho Negron - FALN militant
I don't think he asked for that picture -
In fact, I read that he was already wishing he had a little bit more privacy during that vacation trip and thought it was a bit ridiculous that people wanted to see pictures like that of him...
I don't think there was a thing wrong with him going shirtless on a beach in Hawaii and I don't understand how could that equate to not having dignity?
I don't think he asked for that picture -
In fact, I read that he was already wishing he had a little bit more privacy during that vacation trip and thought it was a bit ridiculous that people wanted to see pictures like that of him...
I don't think there was a thing wrong with him going shirtless on a beach in Hawaii and I don't understand how could that equate to not having dignity?
What is wrong with this picture?????
*It's a very complicated bill. People in congress obviously don't even understand it.*???? People in congress WROTE this bill, how can they not understand it? How in the world can they vote for it? How can you ask someone to accept it when you are saying the very people who wrote it do not know what is in it, let alone understand it???
WE do get the big picture, which is why we care about
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link to picture I posted
Sorry it didnt come through, guys..it was information about Laura's manslaughter and had a few good pictures..I wanted to share but they didnt come through..anyway, here is the link..check it out..
http://www.ariannaonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=434
The picture is obviously symbolic & it's apparent to me why they did it. sm
This was an event so emotional that it seems to have welded shut the minds of many Americans. People have shut off their natural curiosity to know what really happened on that fateful day. Have you seen The Matrix? It's a red pill - blue pill choice. Take the blue pill and wake up in the morning and everything is the same as its always been- comfortable. Take the red pill and you see how deep the rabbit hole goes. Many Americans have chosen the blue pill- they don't want to know the truth, just feed them info that confirms what they've already been told and that's good enough.
So, I think the picture is a little more than someone with a little too much time on their hands.
I saw the picture, Kaydie...the B is backwards!
The police have serious doubts about her story, as well. You are very gullible!
What I will never understand is why the Clintons are even still in the picture
Fox news refreshed my memory this weekend about Bill Clinton. I cannot understand why this man is still welcomed with open arms. He disgraced his office and his family. He should have just faded into the sunset. Kind of tells you something about the morals in this country.
He has got to paint as dark a picture as
pretty good job of it, so when just a glimmer of light shines through, he can tell you, Yes, I Did!
But, I sure hate to bust your bubble, we are noncombustible, we are not going extinct, we ain't going anywhere! We just here praying for our country.
Wow, why don't you post your picture so we can judge you, too?
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I don't think he sent the picture to the magazine to be placed on the cover -
My goodness, ya'll would blame him no matter what. He does not decide what picture goes on the cover of a magazine - the Editor of the magazine decides.
And, I do not think that being President of the United States means you cannot go to the beach anymore or have a vacation with your family without covering yourself and if someone wants to take a picture of him in that way, then what can he do?
You want freedom of the press, freedom of speech, no censorship, etc., but then you are wanting to censor this magazine!
The picture that you make up whatever scenario you want?
And try to pass it off as truth.
Seems to me that you and most of the Republicans on here are the whiners. Get over it. We have another 7-1/2 years with this president. There are a HUGE MAJORITY of us who LIKE him. So sorry your party is in tatters and doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hades of ever getting elected in my lifetime.
I'm assuming that was supposed to be a picture sm
of an angry mob, but I was unable to view it, but I get it!! That's hilarious. But I will say the comment about "first they laughed and then they died" will haunt my nightmares -- not so funny.
JTBB, I have to admire your tenacity dealing with these people. Tell me, what is it like being a pariah? I know this won't jive with your atheist beliefs, but you know that Jesus was the most famous pariah, so your're in good company!! LOL
This is excellent and paints a very accurate picture!
This is so true. All these people are so ready and eager to kill other people's children.
I didn't notice the name of a very decorated, true war hero on that list, though: Colin Powell, the only honest, honorable member of Bush's "team." He's a Republican, very intelligent, reasonable, has seen the ravages of war firsthand, and didn't seem to fit in with all the other boys on Bush's team who were obviously deprived of "GI Joe" playtime hours when they were 5 years old and are trying to make up for lost time.
The picture was taken in California at an ANSWER convention. SM
You may remember the incident when the war first started and a soldier threw a grenade into a tent killing several other soldiers, including, I believe an officer. This lovely show of support for the soldiers was on display at that convention.
HA HA HA - had to laught at the picture that brought to mind
ya know people there sure is a lot more to a relationship than just sex. Companionship, trust, admiration, being happy every single day of your life, going out and doing things together that you both enjoy doing, the list goes on and on and on. My belief is that the creator put a man and woman togther to have a child (but luckily now a days childless couples whether it be man/woman, woman/woman or man/man can have a child). I'll take someone I can relate to, laugh with, cry with, work with, etc no matter what gender they are. So if you want to have kids by all means the number #1 way to go is sex, but if you want to spend the rest of your life together no matter what gender you are I believe in marriage.
A picture is worth a thousand words! (nm)
:)
There is a picture of her in a bathing suit holding
a gun...does that count?
It's a fake photoshopped hit job picture (no pun intended)...nm
Blatent lie is the only thing wrong with this picture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Children's_Health_Insurance_Program
Question. What does the first S in SCHIPS stand for? STATE. OK. So here we have federal funding provided TO STATES for administration under very broad federal guidelines. Age is defined as birth to 18. Income guidelines define chideren in families living between poverty level and up to 200% of poverty level. Beyond that, it is up to the STATES to determine their own guidelines and eligibility criteria.
Care to post a source for your information that disputes this info?
special assistant to reagan sees the picture clearly
Federal Failure in New Orleans
by Doug Bandow
_Doug Bandow_ (http://www.cato.org/people/bandow.html) , a former special
assistant to president Ronald Reagan
Is George W. Bush a serious person? It's not a question to ask lightly of a
decent man who holds the US presidency, an office worthy of respect. But it
must be asked.
No one anticipated the breach of the levees due to Hurricane Katrina, he
said, after being criticised for his administration's dilatory response to the
suffering in the city of New Orleans. A day later he told his director of
the Federal Emergency Management Administration, Michael Brown: Brownie,
you're doing a heck of a job.
Is Bush a serious person?
The most important duty at the moment obviously is to respond to the human
calamity, not engage in endless recriminations. But it is not clear that this
President and this administration are capable of doing what is necessary.
They must not be allowed to avoid responsibility for the catastrophe that has
occurred on their watch.
Take the President's remarkable assessment of his Government's performance.
As Katrina advanced on the Gulf coast, private analysts and government
officials warned about possible destruction of the levees and damage to the pumps.
A year ago, with Hurricane Ivan on the move - before veering away from the
Big Easy - city officials warned that thousands could die if the levees gave
way.
Afterwards the Natural Hazards Centre noted that a direct strike would have
caused the levees between the lake and city to overtop and fill the city
'bowl' with water. In 2001, Bush's FEMA cited a hurricane hit on New Orleans as
one of the three top possible disasters facing the US. No wonder that the
New Orleans Times-Picayune, its presses under water, editorialised: No one can
say they didn't see it coming.
Similarly, consider the President's belief that his appointee, Brown, has
been doing a great job. Brown declared on Thursday - the fourth day of flooding
in New Orleans - that the federal Government did not even know about the
convention centre people until today. Apparently people around the world knew
more than Brown. Does the head of FEMA not watch television, read a
newspaper, talk to an aide, check a website, or have any contact with anyone in the
real world? Which resident of New Orleans or Biloxi believes that Brown is
doing a heck of a job? Which person, in the US or elsewhere, watching the
horror on TV, is impressed with the administration's performance?
Indeed, in the midst of the firestorm of criticism, including by members of
his own party, the President allowed that the results are not acceptable.
But no one has been held accountable for anything. The administration set this
pattern long ago: it is constantly surprised and never accountable.
The point is not that Bush is to blame for everything. The Kyoto accord has
nothing to do with Katrina: Kyoto would have a negligible impact on global
temperatures even if the Europeans complied with it.
Nor have hurricanes become stronger and more frequent in recent decades.
Whether extra funding for the Army Corps of Engineers would have preserved the
levees is hardly certain and impossible to prove. Nor can the city and state
escape responsibility for inaction if they believed the system to be unsafe.
Excessive deployment of National Guard units in the administration's
unnecessary Iraq war limited the flexibility of the hardest-hit states and imposed
an extra burden on guard members who've recently returned from serving
overseas. But sufficient numbers of troops remained available elsewhere across the
US.
The real question is: Why did Washington take so long to mobilise them? The
administration underestimated the problem, failed to plan for the predictable
aftermath and refused to accept responsibility for its actions. Just as when
the President took the US and many of its allies into the Iraq war based on
false and distorted intelligence. Then the administration failed to prepare
for violent resistance in Iraq. The Pentagon did not provide American soldiers
with adequate quantities of body armour, armoured vehicles and other
equipment.
Contrary to administration expectations, new terrorist affiliates sprang up,
new terrorist recruits flooded Iraq and new terrorist attacks were launched
across the world, including against several friends of the US. In none of
these cases has anyone taken responsibility for anything.
Now Hurricane Katrina surprised a woefully ill-prepared administration.
President Bush and his officials failed in their most basic responsibility: to
maintain the peaceful social framework within which Americans normally live and
work together.
Bush initially responded to 9/11 with personal empathy and political
sensitivity. But his failures now overwhelm his successes. The administration's
continuing lack of accountability leaves it ill-equipped to meet equally serious
future challenges sure to face the US and the rest of the world.
This article originally appeared in the Australian on Sept. 5, 2005
Picture of Sarah Palin in March 2008 sm
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/v-gallery/story/345168.html?/news/alas...
Sure looks great for 8 months along!
A voter in front of me was asked to show a picture ID.....sm
I was not and the voter in front of her was not. I think that, even in a small place where the election judges know most of the population, picture ID should be required. The guy behind me was the one I mentioned in my other post that apparently was not on the list. Maybe, in our democratic process, every other voter gets some kind of hassle? lol
Oh, I can beat that. A picture of liberal tolerance and love for the troops. SM
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