Look, if the pubs are going to get a bad wrap
Posted By: no matter what, sm on 2008-11-03
In Reply to: OMG! What a ridiculous remark from....but that wasn't my point..sm - change
I may as well ruffle your feathers!!!  (At least I'm trying to be PC by posting a nonpartisan-looking smiling)
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Here's a deal - the pubs will take the wrap for troopergate if
Braaaaawk Osama takes the wrap for the rampant voter fraud he is perpetuating across the US.
He's a crooked scheister and the Dems are coming off looking like monkeys with their heads up their own heinies for swallowing his B.S.
Don't you think there's a reason Osamabinbama has to look for his voters by dredging soup kitchens and rock concerts and homeless shelters? I guess that's the voter 'base' in the Democratic party now. Air heads and pot heads. Greaaaaaaaat.
I think we can wrap up this
distraction issue by repeating the old saw "Never wrestle with a pig in the mud. You only get dirty and the pig likes it" Shall we retire the subject?
Try to wrap your mind around this....
THe "wealthy" are the business owners who EMPLOY people. Helllooo. You give them tax cuts, they don't have to lay people off. That's a good thing. You give them tax cuts they can grow their businesses and employ MORE people. That's a good thing. Simple economics 101 that seems to escape the more Democrat among us. And I have NEVER been able to figure that one out.
Yes, I have a teenager; and I've told him to wrap it
I also was a teenager myself in the 80s.
I can say that in high school when somone popped up with child; they popped out of school early with another diagnosis. Yes, mono, was one of the "illnesses" these girls supposedly had, so this type of thinking goes way back. Let's brush it under the carpet, and no one will notice. I am not so sure I like that mentality.
Agree, Lurker...hard to wrap the mind around...
...It is so surreal in a way, all that happened, and then paasing the buck, and now the tide of human hate that in some ways is just as damaging as the storm itself.
I fear they will try their best to rewrite the story of what happened. It's already starting. Now the new poll is out saying somewhere close to half of Americans approve of Bush's handling of the emergency services. The conservatives are all agaggle over it - as if it was real. As if just saying so makes it real. Karl Rove has played this game from day one but they just don't see it. Not even with all the ultra conservative pundits turning on them, they believe a faked poll before they believe their own eyes and ears.
My brother told me a story once about a company he used to work for in Ft. Pierce, FL, run by a man and his three adult sons. One day my brother was taking a break with the three sons and they were reminiscing about the good old days (about 10 years previously) when they would load up their shotguns, jump in the pickup and head over to the segregated part of town where the black people lived, and drive around the outskirts of town taking pot shots at the inhabitants, killing as many as possible, laughing as heads exploded and children were shot out of their mother's arms. This was going on in 1962. The blacks couldn't do anything about it - the whites owned the city and the sheriff's office and if they didn't like it they were invited to get the hell out of town. The sons in question were from 12-14 years old when they were committing murder with their father's approval and assistance.
What happened this last week gives me the same unbelieving sense of horror and shame as I had when I first heard that story. I just don't know what to say about people so dead inside that murder to them is a joyride. That's kind of a dramatic way to put it, but this stuff really happened and I don't think these kinds of people have left us at all. I am sure they have not all murdered the defenseless for sport, but I am also no longer sure that defending and enabling murderers of any kind is very much better. They might not be shooting but they are certainly driving the truck around with a big grin on their faces, some of them. Not all, but a very dead empty and evil few.
At least now we can plainly see who they are.
Are you Sioux by the way Lurker? Don't mean to pry but just curious:) I have to take issue with the phrase though. I always believed it, now I don't believe it anymore. We're not all one. There are the people and then there are...I don't know what they are but they aren't human and they are not related to anyone but each other. I wish I could feel more inclusive about it but that's not going to happen ever again, I suspect.
Pubs and you especially, Sam, have
Left shoe is on the right foot now. No choice left except to stew in your own juices in this regard.
The Pubs also always say...
Just look at his mother at age 94 (or whatever). She's still kicking at her age. NOT!!! No one ever asks where his father is. Dead perhaps? At what age? Will have to Google that maybe.
The same can be said for the pubs that
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Pubs
I'm not a pub as you put it, but a democrat, and I cringe at the thought of Obama in the white house. If it were Biden, I would definitely consider that strongly but when you have nothing but corrupt questionable activities and more than questionable acquaintances, I won't help put that kind of person in office.
I'd rather go down with the sinking ship, as some poor lost soul OP phrased it, rather than be the cause of the sinking ship.
Oh, I know, all pubs are...well,
fine and upstanding citizens and bleeding hearts for the middle class and poor. I imagine rabid Republicans are about the only ones who still think George W. Bush is a fine, honest, Christian man. I recall one Rabid around here who carried a huge sign around in the back of his pick-up truck in 2004 that said, "Vote freedom, vote God, vote Bush." Nearly made me vomit. Not surprisingly, being a rabid Republican, he is carrying around the same sign but changed Bush to McCain. But he's also crying that he lost his job, is worried about his mortgage and they can't afford for his wife to retire. Rabid people can't seem to learn anything from experience.
Here's a new one for you pubs....
Got this email this morning who says from her mouth to my ears that she is a DEMOCRAT, has never voted for a republican but says (from her mouth to my ears) that she will NEVER vote for a black president. So she sends me this with the warning in the subject line, "be afraid, be very afraid." If I didn't love her I'd wring her neck off!!
Notice to All Employees
As of November 5, 2008, when President Obama is officially elected into office, our company will instill a few new policies which are in keeping with his new, inspiring issues of change and fairness:
1. All salespeople will be pooling their sales and bonuses into a common pool that will be divided equally between all of you. This will serve to give those of you who are underachieving a “fair shake.”
2. All low level workers will be pooling their wages, including overtime, into a common pool, dividing it equally amongst yourselves. This will help those who are “too busy for overtime” to reap the rewards from those who have more spare time and can work extra hours.
3. All top management will now be referred to as “the government.” We will not participate in this “pooling” experience because the law doesn't apply to us.
4. The “government” will give eloquent speeches to all employees every week, encouraging it's workers to continue to work hard “for the good of all.”
5. The employees will be thrilled with these new policies because it's “good to spread the wealth". Those of you who have underachieved will finally get an opportunity; those of you who have worked hard and had success will feel more “patriotic.”
6. The last few people who were hired should clean out their desks. Don't feel bad, though, because President Obama will give you free healthcare, free handouts, free oil for heating your home, free food stamps, and he'll let you stay in your home for as long as you want even if you can't pay your mortgage. If you appeal directly to our democratic congress, you might even get a free flatscreen TV and a coupon for free haircuts (shouldn't all Americans be entitled to nice looking hair?) !!!
If for any reason you are not happy with the new policies, you may want to rethink your vote on November 4th.
Who said anything about pubs? I said O can't get
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about 5 pubs
Minority hardly even describes how you think.
Pubs would love that, but no can do.
Somebody from your cowardly party steps us and acknowledges some responsibility and culpibility in this tragedy.
If she is a sideshow, why are the Pubs
keeping her away from the media? Why hasn't she answered one question nor had one interview since she was picked as VP nominee? Seems odd to me, but then, I find JM's choice very odd and not so brilliant.
Like I said, pubs simply do not
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Calling all pubs.
xoxoxoxo
Pubs hate sex
Pubs think sex is a sin - click on link
Exactly! I see no comments from the Pubs.
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Sure and the pubs had no hand in it at all.
Maybe if the pubs weren't so against regulating it may have been averted too.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us/politics/22mccain.html?_r=2&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&ref=politics&pagewanted=print&adxnnlx=1222092873-DDzUm2VKJMYWutTohJrNDQ
maybe sam's one of them rich oil pubs
well-being of the rest of us.
If that's your theory, then the pubs
should have been all for it, but they weren't, were they?
Pubs are the ones with blinders on.
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Didn't say that. You did. It's the pubs who
JM's economic meltdown plan is exactly what now?
Exactly, pubs had to take on the responsibility
to handle the junk the dems left them with. Glad you understand.
Maybe we could just round up all the pubs
so we can actually get some work done this time around!
I do believe the pubs are grasping at
Time for a change; the same isn't working anymore...
I don't think it's fair to just say pubs
GP...I have had many dems be downright hateful to me about the fact that i'm too "close minded" and "ignorant" because I won't vote for Obama.
Quite frankly I don't care, because I consider myself an independent. I just happen to be voting republican this time. I wish like heck an independent had become a viable candidate but i'll be amazed if that EVER happens.
"A Few Years Ago" the pubs had the
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I am not bashing - but the same can be said of hte pubs -
The bitter, bitter pubs are still bashing Obama instead of waiting and giving him a chance.
He is our next POTUS and he should be given the respect he is due in that position. Everybody should start with a clean slate - at least let him get started before you tear him down...
Pubs blocking help for big 3?
Okay, its obvious that we are going down financially, but why would republicans want to make it worse? The auto industry is going down, and pubs don't want to help because it's "their problem" and not ours? Granted, a bailout may not work, but doing nothing will definitely not work. Are they really working for the country or taking a gamble and just looking at the next election? Meanwhile, we have yet another day of people losing jobs. Is it Jan 20 yet?
Check this out:
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/11/13/tsr.bouldan.gm.bailout.congress.cnn
Well, the pubs supported s/m
the Wall Street bailout didn't they? Haven't you heard about American Express? This is the most ridiculous thing this lousy government has ever done. Big business gets bailed out with our tax dollars and the "small businesses" that Bush says is providing all the new jobs, they either sink or swim on their own. This is just another way for politicians to feather the nexts of their big business buds. And what about that economic summit going on in Washington today? Could it be the creditors of the USA are here to call in their loans? It is absurd to bail out the auto industry. Do you think it's going to save jobs? Well, it won't. If they are going to get bailed out it should be with a stipulation that all their parts are AMERICAN made. THAT might save American jobs. They'll get the bailouts and their employees and the rest of the country will get SCREWED.
Everyone (dems and pubs)...(sm)
have said the economy is going to get worse before it gets better, so again, how about something specific?
This is the man the pubs listen to.
Beck began his radio career when he won a local radio contest to be a DJ for an hour, and was eventually granted a part-time job. He hosted Christian radio on Saturday, rock on Sunday and country on weeknights. In the mid 80s he worked at WRKA radio in Louisville, Kentucky as a morning-drive DJ. His show was called Captain Beck and the A-Team.
After graduating from high school, Beck pursued his career as a Top 40 DJ. By the time he was in his 20s, Beck was on WKCI-FM (KC101), a Top 40 radio station in Hamden, Connecticut, hosting the local morning show with Pat Gray. Originally the show was billed as the Glenn and Pat Show. When Gray left the show, Beck continued with co-host Vinnie Penn. While working in Connecticut, he appeared and sang background vocals on The Delrays' Red, White and Blues CD, a fund raising effort by then Governor John Rowland produced by guitarist Tom Guerra. The CD was well received and was promoted by a series of live appearances.Years later, he began to explore the world of talk radio with a three-hour program on KC101's sister station, WELI. Beck then worked at Tampa, Florida's WFLA-AM and launched The Glenn Beck Program during the afternoon drive, filling the slot held by Bob Lassiter after the station's new owners, Clear Channel, fired him. Beck hosted the new radio show, combining politics and comedy. In the first year, The Glenn Beck Program moved from 14th place to the #2 position.
His theme song back in the Tampa days was a copy of the song, "AM Radio" by the band Everclear. "You got Glenn Beck on your AM radio... AM radio."
Within 12 months, Premiere Radio Networks offered Beck the opportunity to go national. In January 2002, The Glenn Beck Program launched nationally; by May 2008, it had reached over 280 stations as well as appearing on XM Satellite. With over six and a half million listeners, it was ranked 4th in the nation.[2] In January 2006, CNN's Headline News announced that Beck would host a nightly news-commentary show in their new primetime block Headline Prime; the show, simply called Glenn Beck, began in May 2006.
On November 5, 2007, The New York Times reported that Premiere Radio Networks was extending Beck's contract. Two sources with knowledge of the deal said the five-year contract was valued at $50 million.[citation needed]
On July 21, 2008, Beck filled in for Larry King on the show Larry King Live.[3]
In 2008, Beck won the Marconi Radio Award for Network Syndicated Personality of the Year.
On October 16, 2008, it was reported by the Drudge Report and The Politico that Beck has signed a contract with the Fox News Channel to host a weekday show at 5pm ET beginning January 19 2009, as well as a weekend version. Because of his new deal, CNN immediately discontinued the show on October 17, 2008 and replaced it with a news hour anchored by Jane Velez Mitchell.
Is this the best this goofball has to offer you pubs...pitiful doesn't begin to cover it!
Pubs want it both ways....(sm)
Having it Both Ways: Republicans Take Credit For 'Pork' In Stimulus Bill They Opposed
Of course, no one's really surprised, right? I just wonder if the Democratic communications staffers will kick into gear and capitalize on this kind of story:
WASHINGTON — Rep. John Mica was gushing after the House of Representatives voted Friday to pass the big stimulus plan.
"I applaud President Obama's recognition that high-speed rail should be part of America's future," the Florida Republican beamed in a press release.
Yet Mica had just joined every other GOP House member in voting against the $787.2 billion economic recovery plan.
Republicans echoed their party line over and over during the debate: "This bill is loaded with wasteful deficit spending on the majority's favorite government programs," as Minority Whip Eric Cantor, R-Va., put it.
But Mica wasn't alone in touting what he saw as the bill's virtues. Rep. Don Young, R-Alaska, also had nice things to say in a press release.
Young boasted that he "won a victory for the Alaska Native contracting program and other Alaska small business owners last night in H.R. 1, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act."
One provision would have made it harder for minority businesses to win contracts, and Young explained that he "worked with members on the other side of the aisle to make the case for these programs, and was able to get the provision pulled from the bill."
Yet later in the day Young — who recently told McClatchy that he would've included earmarks, or local projects, in the bill if it had been permitted — issued another statement blasting the overall measure.
"This bill was not a stimulus bill. It was a vehicle for pet projects, and that's wrong," he protested.
http://crooksandliars.com/susie-madrak/having-it-both-ways-republicans-take-
So what do you pubs feel about hip-hop...LOL
Check this out....hilarious 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#29290442
Oh, those pubs and their posturing!! sm
The GOP air is filled with pathetic desperation!!
Silence of the Pubs
The reason for the original post was to show that the Republicans and so called "independents" are quick to blame President Obama when the market is down, yet the cat has their tongues when the market goes up. Apparently, their motto is "If you don't have anything bad to say, don't say anything."
No one is foolish enough to believe that a one-day gain in the stock market means the end of the economic crisis.
If this is the work of the pubs
they need to get a clue and wise up as well. I was kind of hoping that a third serious party would come out of this but I'm still waiting. What I wouldn't give to tell both pubs and dems where to go and vote someone in who is of neither party so we the people can prove our point that we don't like what either party is doing. I'm not voting for the lesser of two evils anymore. I refuse. I'm going to vote for who I think really deserves the job and even if I write that person in or it is an independent that doesn't have a snow balls chance in he!! to get elected....i'm voting for them if they are right person. To he!! with this 2 party BS that is just mud slinging back and forth with no real plan or resolution to anything.
Nope, it was only some pubs,
unfortunately just the ones that speak the loudest. And I don't totally disagree with that report about the extremists, but I think it was not right to have a two separate reports, one for right wingers and one for left - extremists are everywhere and they don't have to belong to any political party to be dangerous.
Did you know that the Ku Klux Klan was started by a bunch of southern democrats who didn't like the idea of slaves being freed - by a republican, no less. But this was not about politics. I don't happen to know anyone in the KKK these days, but I'd be willing to bet that there are members of both parties in that group now, but it was never about politics - it was about hate, pure and simple. Same with those that hate the Jews, hate gays, hate whomever - it's never about politics.
And yes, some believe everything that those on Fox say, but you have to admit that there are also some that believe everything MSNBC says (which is just as far the other way).
I love that you are so very passionate about your beliefs and have the intelligence to back them up - you remind me of my best friend, who is also a liberal dem. I only ask that when complaining about the pubs, please don't group us all together - we're not all war-mongering, torture-loving, corporate-greed, Fox News zombies =)
Hold on. Not all pubs, please.
I try to have decent conversations, but there are others that only want to get everyone fired up. Just keep having decent conversations. They'll go away sooner or later.
BTW, I'm a pub but usually always vote for "the best man". Of course, we all know there are any of those guys left in D.C.
No thanks. This is the week we all focus on the pubs.
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That's the only level pubs will react to.
Put your money where your mouth is. You want real issues. Just post a request for a list and let's get started.
Her's another post the pubs won't touch
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While we realize how desperate the pubs are to
"reinvent" their party, the notion that 1 sarcastic speech, void of policy and issues, by SP is going to cast some sort of hypnotic spell, suspend the nation in a state of collective amnesia, wave the fairy godmother's magic wand and make the last 8 years of pub policies that have raped our economy disappear is almost as insulting as thinking women outside the Christian right NeoCon factions will be voting with their genitalia. Our memories reach far beyond the sound bytes of this speech and, believe it or not, we have been paying attention.
JM selected a pick that he thinks can be sold as HC's equal, is just as much of a superstar as O and can deliver speeches that are just as inspiring. The campaign is transparent in their attempt to highjack the Change, Vision and Hope themes as well. Try your best, but what you cannot do is sell any of us on the idea that the pubs now can lay claim to being champions of the working class. Smoke and mirrors cannot disguise the fact that they will give tax cuts to the rich, favor corporations and be 4 more years of the same old poop.
JM's VP pick has shifted the party image right back into the category of NeoCon. Hello. That is what we are all trying run as fast and as far away from as we possibly can. O is the candidate of change, and no amount of spin will change that basic fact.
SP's real job is to be a sam on steroid for the pubs,
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Just when we think pubs can't stoop any lower...
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Pubs must be in distraction committee.
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Never said pubs wore halos....
but in this case, they are on the right side of it. And as far as being ignorant...faced with irrefutable facts, refuse to lay blame where blame belongs and give them a pass...and if it were a Republican, you would be all over them. That seems to describe ignorance as well...?
Truly amazing the lengths pubs go to
The voters are onto your scare tactics. The anger you seek to incite will come back on your party tenfold it you continue striving to take attention off of the economy. They are not interested in your dead-end Obama trashing. They want to know what your candidate will do to address this crisis. The answer should not include the name of his opponent. The question relates to his own plan. Why should voters believe John McCain would do anything different from W when it comes to the economy?
so that explains it. Pubs can't even recognize
They can't come up with a single coherent sentence that describes John McCain's plan to fix the economy because they are so hung up on trashing Obama. ACORN is not an economic issue. Let me give you a clue. The subject of the economy would include such notions as the free falling stock market crash, the mortgage lending crisis, the bail out plan, record-high unemployment, job losses, job security, stagnant wages, outsourcing, free trade agreement and its impact on the US economy, the cost of gas, the cost of food, the out-of-control cost of health care, out-of-reach medical insurance coverage, the scarcity of affordable housing, the national debt, the devaluation of the US dollar, bank consolidation, deregulation....just to name a few. Can any of you pubs out there articlate for the rest of us how John McCain's policies on these issues differ from W's? It's a simple question. What is your candidate's policy on the economy? Anyone? Obama's policy has been laid out already today...all 40 points of it...on this board. We are now looking for the MCCAIN economic policy and how it will address these economic elements. Do I make myself clear? What part of defend your candidate do you not get?
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