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Posted By: me on 2008-08-20
In Reply to: source? - cj
The words were witnessed by two McCain aides and three reporters who did not report it at the time.
If it wasn’t true there would be lawsuits (which there are not). And with him running for president you KNOW he would be denying it as he is denying other things, but he is not denying it.
Here are the links below where this information can be found. Many more links but I think five are enough.
http://blogcritics.org/archives/2008/05/02/194648.php
http://www.thepost.ohiou.edu/Articles/Opinion/Columns/2008/04/15/23789/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/8/17456/91972/887/492360
http://agonist.org/schecter/?p=8571
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=536_1210293502
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You are right on - that's all we ask for. If he would have provided it
But because he has not and instead of providing he has it legally sealed goes to show you there is something to hide. This is one of the reasons the SC will be taking on this case.
They've already provided the BC, but some
just are not "satisfied" with it & insist on wasting the courts time & money, only to lose repeatedly because the whole thing is baseless.
UN provided GPS coordinates and has
has issued numerous statements that dispute this lie. If you watched the interview between the UN rep and Israel's spokesperson, you can see the Israeli skirt the issue and state the rockets were coming "from the vicinity" of the school. It's not like this would be the first time Israel has lied about their reasons for bombing schools.
It's beside the point. If they KNEW this was a UN school (the the GPS coordinates AND the fact that it is clearly marked with the UN flag on its roof), that civilian refugee families had sought refuge there and they were putting large numbers of children at risk (they had been informed of this), the humane thing to do would have been to decide NOT TO BOMB IT.
UN provided GPS coordinates and has
has issued numerous statements that dispute this lie. If you watched the interview between the UN rep and Israel's spokesperson, you can see the Israeli skirt the issue and state the rockets were coming "from the vicinity" of the school. It's not like this would be the first time Israel has lied about their reasons for bombing schools.
It's beside the point. If they KNEW this was a UN school (the the GPS coordinates AND the fact that it is clearly marked with the UN flag on its roof), that civilian refugee families had sought refuge there and they were putting large numbers of children at risk (they had been informed of this), the humane thing to do would have been to decide NOT TO BOMB IT.
Yeah, because he provided SO MUCH
Bush was a fool. History has shown that. Obama's history is not written yet, even though there are those on this board who like to think they can see into the future.
My *teacher* has provided the Bible...
the same Bible that says Do Unto Others is very clear about homosexuality. It is called an abomination. Not too many ways you can take that. Therefore, the twinge you feel about homosexual marriage probably was not caused by bad cheese. But, as we all know, no one but you will have to explain your decisions when you stand before Him, and no one but me will have to explain my decisions when I stand before Him.
God bless.
O has already provided valid evidence and
fanatics to hound and stalk him like hunted prey. Fanatics also unsuccessfully tried to use the guilt by association argument to win the election. It did not work then and is will not help them now.
Where did I say McC camp provided this information?
the word "fodder." With Webster at your fingertips, you might try looking it up next time before you leap to unfounded conclusions.
the exmilitary man is on the link I provided -
I did not hear him say he had to "push" through them - he just said they were there and he was not going to let them intimidate him.
Did you even read the link you provided?
Obama is requiring community service not military service. Community service is a constructive way to spend time and energy. War is a destructive way to spend time and energy.
Obama also said that he would provide a college education to anyone who volunteers to do community service. This can only help make the United States a stronger and better nation. It sounds like a wonderful plan to me!
The following is from the link you provided:
The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by developing a plan to require 50 hours of community service in middle school and high school and 100 hours of community service in college every year. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.
I did - and I'm the one who provided the actual quote
Look. Just get this straight. If you know anything about Boehner at all, you will know perfectly well that he does not support the notion that cold rooms, sleep deprivation and caterpillars add up to torture.
Intellectual honesty is a wonderful thing. Waiting to "pounce" on any fortuitous language that suits your purpose when you know very well that's what you're doing is NOT intellectual honesty and speaks ill of the character of those who practice this form of charade. I certainly don't respect you for it, although I do respect honesty in political discourse. I wish it weren't so rare.
Poster asked for the link and I provided it.
As far as preying, the articles and examples of that are, as they say in laboratory terminology, "too numerous to count." And that is unfortunate.
If you copy the link I provided, paste it...
into your browser and click "go," the page will come up with the entire article. If you scroll down a bit, you will see the video screen which will work if you click on it.
I just tried it, and it works fine. I will try again to post the link below under "URL/Link."
I personally believe that your husband and all other soldiers who are placed in harm's way deserve so much better, whether it's safe food/water, safe electricity, better vehicles to protect them against IEDs, etc. They are doing their best for us, and they deserve the best FROM us, IMHO.
Employer provided medical insurance
originated, I believe, during FDR's New Deal. When wages were capped, employers found a way to circumvent this by providing ''sickness insurance'' for their employees, thus giving them a raise without violating the wage caps.
Another example of government meddling. Had they not imposed wage caps, employers would have been able to keep paying their employees and give raises to enable them to afford their own healthcare. But instead, we grew the employer-provided healthcare system we have now and people experience ''job lock,'' unable to move to another employer because of pre-existing conditions which may not be covered by a new company's insurance plan.
Of course it's income, always has been. Same as use of a company car, or executive housing provided by a company (both of which are taxable to the extent they are used outside of actual business activities.) I'm amazed nobody until now has taxed insurance.
Does this constitute a new tax on people earning under $250 thousand (or $235 thousand, or whatever the new number is?)
I will, provided courtesy is held on the conservative board as well.
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Thanks for the links! nm
nm
thanks for the links
I will check them out after finishing my IC work!
I am still an IC and I don't know why my taxes are high, I have been doing it for over 10 years, but I have an accountant do them, and I pay quarterly's yes I do... I still always end up paying at the end of the year even if I try to calculate it correctly because of deductions I thought I had, etc. The only thing that changed in my personal life was two years ago I bought a house. Did that cover the questions?
I just don't trust either politician, but align myself with the Republican values more strongly.
Thanks for the links....sm
...but this was the year after she was no longer the mayor of Wasilla, and three years before she became governor, so she was not in office in 2003. I notice they don't even try to link her name to this. I'm sure they would have, if they could have.
Anyway, sure doesn't excuse the drug problem in the communities, though. I still don't like it one bit.
Links
I do not understand why so many links are put on this board?
On a blog forum one should put one's own opinion, not what is posted on the internet. At least one should put it in one's own words.
Here are the links again...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/21/AR2006062101837.html
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htchem/articles/20060123.aspx
Here's two links...sm
First off, when you have a private meeting with the president, it's private. But then parts of it were leaked to the press. Then the White house asked for a retraction of false statements made by Obama camp. Then the Obama camp retracted what they said.
There's more to it than these two stories, but these are the best I can find at the moment.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/11/obama-urges-bush-help-auto-indusstry/
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Business/story?id=6231372&page=1
Links
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2129667/posts
This link has a clip:
http://motownsports.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1685563
Some links for you
Sorry it took so long. I kept reading about his plans to keep the military over there but sure enough when I want to find the exact article I can't. Here are some articles I did find. (P.S. - I think it odd the person who is chosen for SoS position (Billiary) is the same person who said they would "obliterate Iran". Am sure that's going to go over well with them.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/04/obama-adviser-keep-80000-troops-in-iraq/
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1857338,00.html
http://www.laboreducator.org/troopshome.htm
Here's what some people say (so it's not just me) -
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081112052420AAQI2Su
And here's one of the scariest things I've heard (out of Obama's own mouth - if you can listen to it without watching his eyes read the teleprompter). He's pretty much telling us "Yes I can make us defenseless".
http://msunderestimated.com/2008/03/01/obamas-plans-for-our-military-video/
Links...(sm)
Warning: On this first one there are some terrible pics, but I posted this for the text.
http://www.staticbrain.com/archive/pentagon-censors-soldiers-access-to-internet/
On this one, please note where he says *When you’re in an environment where you don’t have access to any information sources, independent or otherwise, all you can do is conjecture. We didn’t have any access to newspapers or the Internet. *
http://www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/issue/2008-03-14/article/29458?headline=Iraq-Veteran-Speaks-Out-Against-War
Here's a reality check for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOj7Nxcn6gg&feature=related
Here's two links for you
These were posted before some of the crap was taken out, so some of it may be old, but these give a good idea how the government plans to spend our money, and our children's money, and our grandchildren's money, etc.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123204034869386185.html
This one uses Adobe.
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/AmericanReinvestment2009115
Here's the links for ya.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iVg2jiaBA1jwVfCdsisXI0FbZD0AD965BKCG0
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29030191/
See links
http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/3817
http://foro.univision.com/univision/board/message?board.id=cubanosenmiami&message.id=55144
See links
http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/3817
http://foro.univision.com/univision/board/message?board.id=cubanosenmiami&message.id=55144
What is it with these links today?
SM, better links than supplied by OPs
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/01/019637.php
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1200572509823&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Can you give links on any of this....
other than..."I heard..." Believe me, the way auto sales are falling, if they could manufacture one that ran on water and sold for $1200 they would be selling them, because $1200 is better than zero...good grief. Talk about your conspiracy theories. All the automakers are downsizing and grasping to try to sell cars and they would NOT ignore something they could build and sell cheap...simple economics 101. The Wal-mart approach to car sales, and they all know how successful wal-mart is, because all the pieties about "I only buy American" and "offshoring" fall to the wayside in favor of "cheap." All those same people who gripe about wal-mart buying overseas and supposedly mistreating their employees run over each other to get to the sales, and don't think they don't. Typical Democrat mantra...do as we say, not as we DO.
As to the car McCain offered the bounty for on the battery...he was talking about one that would replace what is in use now...not one whose top end is 30 mph and you have to charge it after an hour. Good grief, get your facts straight. :-) I am sure he meant one that would at least do 50 mph and you could drive it to the quick pick and back without having to plug it in. That being said, I did see where Toyota (on the US side) is working on technology to attach solar panels to charge batteries. Of course, that would mean leaving that sweeetttt little sports car out in the sun...ahem. Bet Teddy Kennedy won't be buying one and I bet RFK Jr. won't either...lol. Gotta love'em. DO as we SAY...not as we DO.
URLs or links only, please. nm
Terrorist links
Can you PROVE beyond a shadow of DOUBT that this is TRUE?? sheesh!!
Actually, after that, I'm not opening links
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Why don't any of your links work? nm
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Providing Links
Just because someone on this forum provides a link to prove their point does not mean that the link is truthful or valid. There are thousands of downright lies posted on the Internet each and every day, and providing a link to one of them does not prove anything. There are an abundance of right-wing fanatic links that provide lies and smear tactics, shameful racist links, and right-wing political links posted by raging lunatics. The links to provided to validate a poster's claim are a waste of time unless they come from a proven reliable news source.
The links go to a PDF of his tax returns
This is his one from 2006
http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/files/obama_2006_tax_return.pdf
They also said Obama posted his tax returns on his website but I haven't found them yet. Supposedly they were released when Hillary was still in the running.
I hate trying navigate through any of the candidate's sites! They need a search menu!
Here's 3 links. Any questions?
http://www.barackobama.com/pdf/issues/EnvironmentFactSheet.pdf
Page 4 of this document. Includes a video.
http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/10/08/full-text-barack-obama-speech-real-leadership-for-a-clean-energy-future/
http://www.jacksonholestartrib.com/articles/2008/03/08/news/casper/doc47d2397a06235615103300.txt
No. They don't "do" links.
If you copy and paste the entire thing, you stand about a 12% chance of them actually reading it. So here is, ironically, what you get when you click on the word "REQUIRE."
It might be too many words for some, but the bottom line is that this is a choice, NOT a REQUIREMENT.
America Serves
"When you choose to serve -- whether it's your nation, your community or simply your neighborhood -- you are connected to that fundamental American ideal that we want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness not just for ourselves, but for all Americans. That's why it's called the American dream."
The Obama Administration will call on Americans to serve in order to meet the nation’s challenges. President-Elect Obama will expand national service programs like AmeriCorps and Peace Corps and will create a new Classroom Corps to help teachers in underserved schools, as well as a new Health Corps, Clean Energy Corps, and Veterans Corps. Obama will call on citizens of all ages to serve America, by setting a goal that all middle school and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year and by developing a plan so that all college students who conduct 100 hours of community service receive a universal and fully refundable tax credit ensuring that the first $4,000 of their college education is completely free. Obama will encourage retiring Americans to serve by improving programs available for individuals over age 55, while at the same time promoting youth programs such as Youth Build and Head Start.
I'll look at your links a little later..... sm
fighting the clock right now!
I realize it is illegal to fire an employee over religious beliefs. However, I would point out that in "at will" states, an employer does not need to give a reason for terminating an employee. Also, if the cashier were true to their Christian Science beliefs, I would have to wonder why they would seek employment at a store that sold antibiotics in the first place. Kind of like a Baptist working in a liquour store. We might shop there, but we wouldn't be caught dead working there! HAHAHA!!!
Not a fabrication - see links
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/aug2007/2007-08-28-092.asp
http://www.wrmp.org/design/
http://www.sfwetlands.ca.gov/
Just a couple links - not a fabrication.
I, for one, would like to see those links you don't want to post.
Then I will make up my mind.
Don't forget, he was po'd because the CIA and FBI did not work together and he was getting conflicting info from both sources, but tried to unravel which was true, or did you forget that, too?
Not OP but here are the links to the stories...
http://www.topix.com/forum/louisville/TE5VN7EJ0BLN8QHCL
http://www.foxnews.com/video-search/m/22062919/reverse_discrimination_suit.htm
http://newhavenindependent.org/archives/2009/03/rights_groups_b.php
All I had to do was type in "firefighters reverse discrimination test" and up popped a million links.
Interesting links
Thought these links at the bottom were good.
"We ask that he be remembered as a good husband, father and grandfather and a dedicated servant on behalf of the rights of women everywhere," it said.
http://www.lifenews.com/state4187.html
http://churchethos.com/2009/06/01/terminating-tillers-life-is-worse-than-tiller-terminating-olives/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGBYmsNlEZ8
Let me now state that I do NOT agree with what he did, but he was a living human being. He had a wife, children and grandchildren.
Murder is never justified no matter how much you don't agree with what someone does. That is what the law is for.
It's a sad time for all.
Could have been me who posted links, but I never said Bush did it.sm
I post the links because I want everyone to research the issue, want to know what everyone thinks, but most stay quiet. My suspicions would be connected to Cheney and the members of Project for a New American Century.
I dutifully went to all these links and checked...
all refer to the book by Cliff Shechter...they are quoting him. No one else has independently corroborated this. His book says "three reporters who reported anonymously." I understand that you believe, based on what this man said in his book, even though no one else apparently heard this...that it is true. I just don't have similar belief. Just like I don't assume that Hillary Clinton liberally used the "F" word because some unnamed or anonymous sources said she did. Do a search on Hillary CLinton F word secret service and look at all the crap that comes up. That's what I mean. And her "people" always declined to deny it. They did not dignify it with a response. Same case here. Only it is not one quote...it is several. But, using your logic, it must have been all true or Hillary would have sued those who were saying it?
Bottom line is you choose to believe it, I don't. Answer this for me...if a conservative wrote a book about Obama and said he had three anonymous sources who heard Obama call his wife the C word, would you believe that as readily as you believe this?
Just asking.
Thanks for the links. I started reading through them. sm
I started with the first link and only got partially through Palin's. Hope to go back later to finish it and read the other candidates too.
One of the things I read it said where her husband worked for BP. They had said that he would quit if she were elected gov. but after she was they backed out of that and stated that since he was not management it wouldn't matter or wouldn't be a conflict. But wouldn't it be? He works for an oil company, she is for the drilling of oil, etc. To me that is still a big conflict.
Also, why is one thing saying he quit and another thing saying he still works there part-time. This link from above was a direct quote from them I believe.
Anyway, again, thanks for the links. Hope to read up some more tonight.
Umm, read links. SP's words are in there.
nm
I have been told to post links, which is what I have done.
if you want to know Mccain's stand on the issues, follow the links and read them.
Now that you mention it....here are links to get you started.
Ignore it if you like...but you know, the duck thing...if it quacks like a duck.
All of these things can be independently verified. The policies that he is proposing are socialism 101...redistribution of wealth. The "people" of Cuba has not done so well after the Castro/Che Guevara revolution, now have they?
http://politicalcenter.newsvine.com/_news/2008/05/04/1466498-obamas-marxist-revolution-must-be-rejected-
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/07/what_barack_obama_learned_from.html
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-international-socialist-connections
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/08/31/america/France-Socialists-Obama.php
http://www.acton.org/commentary/443_marxist_roots_of_black_liberation_theology.php
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2008/08/michelle_obama_4.php
http://www.tysknews.com/Articles/dnc_corruption.htm
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=75101
PLEASE post links not copies
of entire articles -- the rules clearly state -- rules and regulations -- rules and REGULATIONS!!!!!!
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