Libs always attack messenger instead of message.
Posted By: sm on 2009-02-09
In Reply to: Leftware liberal loons hate the truth. - sm
They forget that this is not Bush’s porkfest, it’s Obama’s, all trillion of it, and yes, there will be more.
They don’t want to be educated on the Bush tax cuts. Tax revenues increased between 2003-2007.
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/87xx/doc8792/11-2007-MBR.htm
Go to the 'Receipts' table. This is a table showing how tax revenues increased between 2005-2007.
But I guess Democrats would say Dick Cheney sneaked into the CBO and changed the numbers.
How is it that Liberals claim to be able to read our minds? I would try to read a Liberal’s Mind, but I don’t like short stories, comic books, or things written in crayon. LMAO! HIC!"
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attack the messenger
Here we go again - Rove's tactic of personal attacks on those who bring forth damaging information. Media matters states inaccuracies of the press on both sides. They back their statements up with proof and facts. You can argue they are "left" "right" "middle" or "ovoid" but they still present information and back it up with verifiable facts.
Have you read Attack the Messenger by Craig Crawford...sm
He was on Fox and Friends today talking about the press and politics and I'm wondering if this is a good book?
Why do you feel the desperate need to attack, attack, attack....
what IS it about Obama that inspires this kind of thing? I guess you don't get it when someone is being facetious do you? Read the whole thread...including the part about celestial choirs, which was said by one of Obama's supporters.
The smoke machines and strobe lights was definitely a joke, one can only hope they would not do something so ridiculous but who knows....Britney Spears' set designer designed that set.
So much for no celebrity status. LOL.
Messenger, yes................. sm
Savior, no. Muslims acknowledge that Jesus existed but do not acknowledge His divinity and that He came for ALL people (yes, the Muslims as well if they would turn to Him).
No need to slay the messenger.
and believe you me, I was being pretty restrained, considering how much there was to report that I did not share.
Now that your cheap shot is behind you, suppose you try a more intelligent, thoughtful response to the comparison. Do you seriously equate a single, solitary affair with a life-long partner to serial sexually predatory behaviors?
DON'T SHOT THE MESSENGER
It could be a joke, but I do trust Huffingtonpost. It is also posted on other parts of the net. For him to do so (pardon Bin Laden), probably means nothing to anyone except "Bush" since Bin Laden has not been captured and is not a U.S. citizen. You can search it yourself and form your own opinion: "Bush Pardon's Osama Bin Laden" or you can copy and paste the link below.
I don't put anything past Bush and nothing he does surprises me. I'm embarassed that I voted for him. After stating that he gets a "briefing" every day, on Larry King when asked, if we ever came close to capturing Bin Laden, his reply was "I don't know......I really don't know." First of all, you should know, and if you don't know, you don't say I don't know. You can discuss the gallant attempts by our military to capture him, the sacrifice they gave of themselves to capture him, etc. LAME DUCK -- BYE!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-rees/breaking-bush-pardons-osa_b_159272.html
So don't shoot the messenger.
Of course, disease is a choice and I know many doctors who believe the same way. We can prevent diabetes, heart disease, cancer and many other diseases simply by making changes in our diet and lifestyle. We may not realize the choices we made contributed to it, but nonetheless, we can be healthy if we work at it. Unborn babies have to rely on their mothers to stay healthy. None of us really know the damage we may do to our unborn by ingesting things we "consider to be healthy. I'll let you make your own deductions of what that may be instead of inciting you to anger, based on what this country perceives as "health food." I don't really care for the way you present yourself either but I wouldn't make a judgement call based on the way you do it. My baby sister died from CF in 1959. It is a lung disease. Now that I know much more than I did back then, I realize what may have caused her death and yes, my mother (bless her heart) unknowingly could have probably prevented it. There is more info now but most people simply refuse to believe it can be as simple as it seems. I do believe it.
Is shoot the messenger the new mantra here.
You have no idea what my politics are. Do you know who Richard Cohen is? He is a very far left liberal columnist and he thought it was over the line. See, this is why no one, from anywhere, can have a discussion with people on this board. If someone doesn't agree with you, they are a *neocon* whatever the heck that is. I find that mindset disturbing. You are not worth arguing with. All you can do is label. Pathetic.
Slaying the messenger in this manner
perfectly illustrates the point this poster has made with such concise eloquence.
And you're very good at shooting the messenger.
It wouldn't matter what I posted here. You've already made up your mind that you hate me, and that's all there is to it. I could come in tomorrow and say I think Bush is the best president we've ever had, but you'd still attack me personally.
If you look at every single thread I have started here, I have never ONCE personally attacked a poster. I have always attacked an administration that is incompetent, dishonest and downright dangerous. The responses I have received have been attacks directed personally at me. Yet, when I respond in kind to those attacks, I'm crucified. If you're going to start the personal stuff, be prepared to get some of it right back at you.
If you disagree, why can't you discuss the reason you disagree? Why must you and the others always personally attack a poster? Must be because you simply can't defend your position, which is understandable.
I hope you have a very nice day. It would be very nice to have an intelligent, legitimate debate with you someday, one directed at the issues and not at a poster you have decided to hate.
Whoa - hold on - Don't shoot the messenger
As that saying goes "Don't shoot the messenger". I was just passing on an article I thought was interesting. I have no idea if it was from a conservative or liberal view point. If I find another article that goes opposite will be happy to pass that on too. I'm for neither and probably won't even vote this fall because I don't want to have the responsibility if the "bad one" is picked that I would have contributed. Just thought this point of view was interesting.
And, of course, the libs never do that to anyone do they? sm
All libs, please read.
There are a number of trolls on here. The best thing to do is not give in to the temptation to feed them. If they are simply ignored, they will find somewhere else to go. Get it? I ask that you not respond to their posts. It is even helpful to do a google and get the real definition of an internet troll and how to best deal with them.
and we don't have to be *tolerant* of libs
pushing their ideals down our throat or down our children's throats in public school either....
Oh, that's right, the libs are NEVER belittling...
you have had too much kool aid.
That's right, the libs never say anything inflammatory about anyone...nm
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Just out of curiosity, where do all you libs think (sm)
the GOP folks you think are dying away or leaving are going? Do you honestly think they're moving to the Democrat party? Really???? Don't you realize that over the course of history the GOP and Dems have always had course corrections in their parties? You do remember that MLK was a republican in the 60s, right?
I am proud to be a republican, but I know that my party is changing. We don't have a solid front-runner. Palin (while I personally liked her) needs more experience before taking that high of an office. Most of our most public figures are older white men.
Obama got elected on style. He's a smooth talker, acts cool, and was different. A slightly higher majority of Americans (and trust me, the election was not a landslide, only about 10% difference which ain't much) voted him in. I don't like him. He's obnoxiously arrogant, and I don't like him apologizing for our country. Yes, Bush was arrogant too, but it was a different kind of arrogance. He knew he was the leader of the most powerful nation in the world and I believed he did what he felt was best for our country. While you all hated his reasons, I trusted him.
Obama, on the other hand, his arrogance is that he thinks he's better than the rest of us. The attitude that comes across is one of we should just be happy to be in his presence. He's book smart. But his inexperience is obvious. He's a puppet. Just like you libs thought Chaney was pulling the strings, Obama is just the same. It's obviously not Biden (good Lord, what an imbicile), but there are plenty of others behind the scenes pulling those wires.
All I'm saying is that I'm just going to watch and wait. My party will rebound and the Dems will eventually implode as is going to happen because each party always does. You're partying now after your so-called 8 years of hell, but I'm just waiting.
I love it when the libs are wrong! NM
Libs cons. It's just an abbreviation. sm
We can help that their abbr. fits their party the best - cons. Nina may have convinced herself that she comes in peace just to debate, but there was no reason for her to blow up in response to your post here.
And the others are propaganda machines for libs...
to each his own, as you say.
Libs talking about themselves here, no doubt...sm
can you say....mud sling fest. all night long ????
The libs hate Ann Coulter because.....
She is thin, blonde, wears fur, and has a brain to go with her good looks. No fool that woman.
Right, funny to you, but hurts the libs
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You libs are as predictable as the tides. LOL nm
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The old double standards. Libs hate it. sm
no way PR is on the WH staff, but just keep on talking. You just look more foolish all the time. Chavez has been accusing the US of trying to off him for a long time. PR was just echoing that, but who really cares.
Not in the real world of dems/libs who are
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Oh well. Looks like libs have fallen back into favor.
is how we stage our revolutions. This one is long overdue and while lamenting this cruel turn of events, you might want to ask yourself why all this is happening. Could it be that W, his cronies and right-wing fringers have overplayed their hand and the voters are fed up with lies, deception, misinformation, politics of fear, division and the culture war, and yet the McCain camp keeps right on keepin' on. When you do a poor job, you get fired. That's the way it works. Change is what they want and change is what they are going to get. We are getting ready to write a new chapter in our history that will move us far beyond that mentality and will thrust us onto the threshold of the post post-911 era. I can't wait to get started and thank God I have managed to live long enough to watch it all unfold.
That would explain why the libs were single-handedly
the rise of the Beat Generation, the counter-culture revolution of the 60s, the success of the civil right's movement and the VietNam, Gulf War and Iraq anti-war movements, not to mention the fact that they have been champions of all sorts of dissenting opinions/movements. Advocating for Palestinian statehood comes to mind.
Four libs against 1 conservative...wow....how biased can that show be...sm
...that show is a joke.
Do you know how silly the libs sound by blaming everything
that happened in the last eight years on Bush?
I predict, that Obama will not take responsibility for anything that happens in next two years at least, maybe four....it will all be Bush's fault in some way.
And those won't be my words. They will be Obama's words.
Wait and see.
How much confidence can you have in president who takes no personal responsibility, or a Congress that takes no personal responsibility in their own legislation, blaming Bush for their own bailout legislation that they wrote?
Dems always change the rules.
It's happening again, slowly and surely.
If you don't think libs hold the dems accountable
They are harsher in their criticisms than the conservatives.
Fox is the leader of the pack and it cheeses libs off.
CNN pays for ad time during O'Reilly's show. That just cracks me up.
Fox Rocks. Even CNN knows that. They're desperately trying to attract a few viewers by advertising during the Fox lineup.
You know how you hate it when conservatives paint libs with the same brush? sm
We don't like it either.
Sounds like you libs....can hardly wait for Monday revelations....
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Who put the libs on this board in charge of free speech?
Joe has the right of free speech too. He asked a simple question, which Obama freely answered outlining socialism 101, and what did Joe get for that? A background check! And you can hail free speech and be okay with that in the same breath? Your hypocrisy is showing...and showing...and showing.
And you keep trying, and unsucessfully, to deflect from the true point. Understandably, because your focus is the big "O", the truthgiver, the one who will save the world. LOL. Free speech indeed. You don't believe in free speech unless it benefits you and the big "O."
Nothing in my post said anything about free speech. It just tried (and in vain I understand)...to stay on point...Obama's ANSWER.
Never mind, the no name posts explain it. You're just here to take a DUMP on the libs...nm
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I know it's hard a concept for the dems/libs, but Rush says what he means.
He doesn't sugar coat. He's got his problems, but he owns them. He doesn't dance around them, sweep them under the carpet, double talk his way out of it. I mean, we aren't going to wake up tomorrow and find out Rush has been hanging with terrorists, is a closet muslim, or the antichrist.
There's a certain honesty to Rush that some people like and others don't.
attack once again
I am not bitter, I am not hateful. I know what is good for the country and it isnt what is in Washington, DC right now. The proof is there by the way this country is going to hell in a handbasket. I want this country to turn around and become the country I grew up with, the country I was once proud to be a part of. Im fighting to turn the craziness around for future generations and the way to do it is to speak and debate and let the people know there is another way to run this country other than what we have right now. You are the one who is getting so hot headed and attacking me and calling me vile, hateful, etc. Im just debating and stating my political stance and putting the blame where it belongs..on this administration. When something is wrong, I say so. I do not give my respect blindly. The administration, whether republican or democrat, earns my respect and this administration has not earned my trust, loyalty or respect. The 1990s were a great time, we had a surplus, no major terrorist war going on, no terrorist breeding ground of our own making as we now have, Saddam was contained and his people at least had electricity, jobs, food, a stable life, we had low unemployment. The 1980s were a great time too. The reality now is we are in a terrible situation in this country and we are not respected around the world. We really have no friends that will help us in Iraq, the ones that are there are pulling out..Italy in 09/2005 and now the talking heads are stating the British might just put pressure on Blair to start pulling out. We are in a situation of this administrations doing and Im not willing to just sit quietly and let the powers that be continue to drive us deeper and deeper into world wide insanity.
why must you ALWAYS attack?
How does it feel, MT? How does it feel to be painted in the same picture as terrorists? Not too nice, hun? Well, that is how I felt when you said I would chain myself to the gates at the WH and blow myself up (not exact words), when you grouped me in with terrorists. You have a big habit of calling people insane, crazy, lunatic and this makes me wonder if your sanity is intact as when others post, they do not attack personally but you always do. If the poster does not agree with you or posts something that you do not like, they are labeled insane or other not so nice words. Cant you debate without attacking?
You have done nothing but attack
every single poster on this board. You are rude, crude, obnoxious, insulting and totally intolerant. I realize these are considered compliments in your narrow-minded circles, but most reasonable Americans don't care for people who behave as you insist on behaving.
How's it feel to be treated the way you treat others?
Nuff said.
once again a mad dog attack by the right
You dont think rationally. Where on this board did anyone state Bush caused the hurricane? Just fling your hate towards the liberals and your baseless arguments. First of all, Bush isnt doing anything to help the victims of the hurricane, the workers are, the police, fire fighters, government workers, etc.
Attack?
This is a bit of a quandry. Again, you feel the need to label me. What if I am none of those things? I have never attacked, used a harsh word, made an accusation, nor called a name on this board. I HAVE made observations based on what I see. I am not sure how you conduct discourse with people in your life outside of this board, but I would like to assume that others are allowed their own set of values and facts without being labeled and without specious statements being made against them.
to attack, I would have to
consider you a threat. Unfortunately, I just find your repetitive posts mind-numbingly feeble. You look up a word on Google like socialist, read the two-line definition and then post it over and over and over. You have no depth of knowledge on any of the subjects discussed here and so your posts are absolutely worthless. It is like having to tolerate a homely little first-grader at a book club discussing Shakesphere. You think you are cute and smart, but the adults loathe you.
Only the ones who continually attack and lie.
You're disturbed because I proved (yet again) that she's a liar, but you're not disturbed that she maliciously attacks each and every single poster who dares to even THINK about disagreeing with her?
Tells me pretty much all I need to know about you. 
If you like liars and bullies, go back to the Conservative boad.
May God help us all if we get another terror attack.
This president has ignored every single thing ever suggested to him, even as it regards terrorism. I wonder what the terrorists will be planning for us in the future and how much information and knowledge they've learned from this about our weak spots. They must see American frustration with Bush's incompetence, and they must really be enjoying that. This is AMERICA. We're supposed to have our act together.
I don't see this as an attack and obviously neither did Lurker. sm
Please look to your own back yard.
It was not meant as an attack, I
that it might not be the wisest idea to go to a *liberal* board and call yourself something that runs counter to their belief system, and then expect to be treated like a long-lost son.
Further, I said the Democrats frustrate me to no end, and it is precisely for the very reasons you stated. They were too afraid of being branded as **unpatriotic** and **unsupportive of the troops**, blah,blah,blah. In their defense, however, sometimes they simply have not had the votes to over ride the president's agenda. Thank goodness for people like Murtha.
I apologize if you felt I was attacking you, as I think we have found some common ground. I think the other thing that happens is that sometimes words, if not chosen extra carefully, can come off sounding what they are not.
see...that's the thing. It's your right to attack if you want....
and I defend that right. But your way of handling opposition is akin to jack-booted thugs and arm-twisting. If that is the way you choose to voice your opposition, more power to you. Don't understand it, but don't have to. It is certainly your right. Whatever floats your boat.
I don't care how much you attack me....
go ahead. Apparently that is what gets your ticker going. Knock yourself out.
If you can't refute, attack.........nm
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If you can't refute, attack. lol. nm
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