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Liberal rags do not represent at least half of the U.S.

Posted By: just the fringe on 2008-09-03
In Reply to: Obviously, this means we are tired of gathering facts, , - researching, citing sourcesrepeatedly, explaining

You may base that on the fact that right now it's about 50/50 Obama versus McCain.  That doesn't mean that the liberal rags, liberal bloggers, MSNBC and the rest represent 50% of the people in our country.  Fortunately for the rest of us, there are democrafts who don't agree with the views of the liberal rags, with the tactics of the liberal bloggers, and with the extreme bias of a "news" organization such as MSNBC.  Most of the time when you can't document, it is because you are getting someone's OPINION, and not fact, and therefore, you cannot document.




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right-wing rags

By right-wing rags I mean publications and internet souces.  the complaint was simply that you use these sources as the unassailable factual basis for your claims.  My point, as well as several other posters in the past, was that you need to use less partisan sources for the "truths" that you post on this board. 


No, I do not see irony in this and calling him a half and half?
I have a mixed daughter and she thanked me 1 time, saying "I have the best of both worlds." Perhaps he feels the same- it is not a put down of 1 side or the other- if you don’t understand now, you probably never will. It is the black that dominates as a color, not the white- therefore lots of mixed people go by the stronger of the 2 colors, has nothing to do with if they are pleased or trying to put down 1 side. I think this is such a trivial matter, myself. What in the world does it matter where he was born or where he lived? Why would you call him a half and half- you my sweetie are showing a lot of racism. Get yourself under better control, ok? You can have a stroke by getting out of sorts like you are doing. You seem to be fuming.
I see nothing racist about half and half......
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Thank God you represent the minority of Americans.

That gives me a great deal of hope for the rest of us.


There are reports all over the media, both print and television, that Bush has known about this since at least Sunday.  I find it very suspicious that it was suddenly revealed the day after Lieberman lost to Lamont and after all the White House cronies made their rounds and used the Connecticut primary to once again accuse Democrats of being soft on terror.  (It should be noted that the Democrats are not soft on terror; they agree with wiretaps and other surveillance of suspected terrorists but they want it to be done within the boundaries of the LAW, something for which Bush the King has proven repeatedly he has no respect.) 


I agree with Lurker that the only reason I can believe this is because it came from another government.  We've had too many lies and cry wolf scare tactics from the Bush administration to believe anything he says.  He has zero credibility, and fortunately, reasonable and intelligent Americans are waking up to that fact.


This Joe the Plumber is supposed to represent

Well this is a quote from Joe the Plumber.


"The media's worried about whether I've paid my taxes, they're worried about any number of silly things that have nothing to do with America," Wurzelbacher told the former Republican presidential hopeful on his show, "Huckabee."


This is what is so funny.  In Joe's eyes "taxes" are silly things.  So, you see he's not worried at all about his taxes being raised IF he were to purchase a company.  He thinks taxes are silly and have nothing to do with America.  So, you don't think we're footing this Joe the Plumber's bill already?????    He can't even pay his own taxes.  How will he ever purchase a company worth more than $250,000.00 with an "outstanding" bill?


then why is he sending people to represent him?
Seriously, I just heard a little blip on our news that he is sending 2 people to represent him- so why not go himself? they send he is sending someone else so as to distance himself from the turmoil but have some representation there who can't actually do anything. That's what was said.
It is his duty to represent his clients, but
if you will reread the OP, you will see, these were his VIEWS, his co-authored versions and interpretations. Yes, these were his beliefs and you better well remember it. He could care less that a 14-year-old girl has to have parental permission to get her ears pierced, just don't mess with her when it comes to getting an abortion! She has her rights you know.
Actually, it was my understanding that both arenas represent the
"war on terrorism."  So in a sense, they are both the same war, just different theaters.
Actually our representatives do represent the people
We vote the people in who we find we agree with most of their ideas. Therefore, if this is what the government has voted for they have gone with the people's wishes. I know the people who don't agree with same sex marriage will never believe it, but it's the truth. Hence, the legislators who have voted for this are going with what the people of their state want.

Equal rights for all human beings. Yeah, baby!!!!!!
Just a little clue for you far left Democrats. Thank GOD you don't represent
the mainstream Democrats.  Here's the clue.  The harder you try to remove God from our consciousness by any means, be it in the Pledge, or any other venue, the harder we will fight you. You WILL NOT remove God from us by any means as long as we live.  There are a whole LOT of Democrats who feel this way, too, so don't feel that just because you speak,you speak for them.  I feel sorry for you. I don't know where you comfort comes from.  I can't possibly imagine a world without God and his grace, forgiveness and love.  This is one battle you will not win.
These tea parties represent the people of the country
and how we feel. We are sick of the over-taxation. We are sick of the government not listening to us, spending like there's no tomorrow, and spending money they haven't even printed yet. Then on top of that we're being taxed more and more so they can send it oversees to other countries all while doing Jack sh!t for the Americans. What's next that people who work will not get paid anymore, 100% will go to taxes or maybe we'll get $8 a month (like Cuba) to make us feel like we're getting something for all the hard work we do. There's more to these tea parties than that. You think people's lives being ruined by what government is doing to us is funny? There are over a million people who are involving themselves in the tea parties. Government is supposed to be "for the people". It is not. They are for themselves and screw the people. The governors of each state need to recall these pieces of garbage they sent to DC, because they are no longer representing us (the people who voted for them), they are for themselves and they care less about us.

Did you think the million man march was hilarious also? How about the original Boston Tea Party? Stamp Act? Oh, hey I guess you think the civil war was hysterical too.

I heard a show yesterday that CNN and MSLSD are not participating in the tea parties. What better way to say "screw the American people and the country. We don't care what they have to say". However, you know that if there was a party where everyone in this country was excited and wanted to pay more in taxes and was for bigger government, etc. CNN and MSLSD would be the first to be reporting it.

MSLSD is so far off on what is really happening in this country I'd like to see them go off the air. Maddow, Olberman, Matthews, etc. They're all a bunch of whiny @ss punks who are throwing a tantrum because their station is losing millions of dollars because more people are turning to stations that will give them the truth, and are turning off CNN & MSLSD.


No they absolutely do NOT represent the citizens of this country
So pompous and self-righteous.

I think Bush's administration was the joke, since you asked. At least now we have someone intelligent and not self-absorbed.

I suffered through the abomination of the Bush administration in silence. You bet your sweet bippy I'm celebrating Obama's presidency and the return to power of the Democratic party. I hope to GOD I never see the likes of Dumbya as president again!!!
The so called liberal media is not so liberal anymore...sm
Case and point Fox News is the #1 media outlet via ratings and hardhitting conservative anchors, pundits, and journalists. Other than Hardball, I don't know of another mainstream show that puts the liberal point of view out there and checks this administration and their policies.
liberal hit piece by a liberal deep thinker....
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I have to be half in the bag

before even looking at Hannity.


 


Well, you got it half right anyway
Obama does want you to think he wil rescue you from yourself because without him, you can't think for yourself. You need government darling.....they will pay your way in life and all you gotta do is sick there and look pretty and not do a darn thing!!!
your right...half way
He probably wasn't talking about a date with his wife as "government." you're right about that but it ends there. Since his date isn't government, it should not be coming out of my tax dollars.
LOL. That was almost witty...about HALF.

half the story
Refuted.
http://www.nrlc.org/ABORTION/pba/WSJletter111003.html
Try reading this one.
Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.
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As has half (or more) of California.
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More than half of U.S. docs want it, too.

This is from March of last year.  Maybe even more of them are in favor of it now.


"More than half of U.S. doctors now favor switching to a national health care plan and fewer than a third oppose the idea, according to a survey published on Monday."


http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN31432035



 


Half of U.S. still believes Iraq had WMD
Half of U.S. still believes Iraq had WMD

By CHARLES J. HANLEY, AP Special Correspondent Sun Aug 6, 7:43 PM ET

Do you believe in Iraqi WMD? Did
Saddam Hussein's government have weapons of mass destruction in 2003?


Half of America apparently still thinks so, a new poll finds, and experts see a raft of reasons why: a drumbeat of voices from talk radio to die-hard bloggers to the Oval Office, a surprise headline here or there, a rallying around a partisan flag, and a growing need for people, in their own minds, to justify the war in
Iraq.

People tend to become independent of reality in these circumstances, says opinion analyst Steven Kull.

The reality in this case is that after a 16-month, $900-million-plus investigation, the U.S. weapons hunters known as the Iraq Survey Group declared that Iraq had dismantled its chemical, biological and nuclear arms programs in 1991 under U.N. oversight. That finding in 2004 reaffirmed the work of U.N. inspectors who in 2002-03 found no trace of banned arsenals in Iraq.

Despite this, a Harris Poll released July 21 found that a full 50 percent of U.S. respondents — up from 36 percent last year — said they believe Iraq did have the forbidden arms when U.S. troops invaded in March 2003, an attack whose stated purpose was elimination of supposed WMD. Other polls also have found an enduring American faith in the WMD story.

I'm flabbergasted, said Michael Massing, a media critic whose writings dissected the largely unquestioning U.S. news reporting on the Bush administration's shaky WMD claims in 2002-03.

This finding just has to cause despair among those of us who hope for an informed public able to draw reasonable conclusions based on evidence, Massing said.
I watched about half of it. Very funny.

I don't watch the show often, but I always enjoy it when I do, so I might just start watching more.  I watched his comedy special on HBO the other night and laughed my butt off.


half the popultion of Phoenix

AZ - the state where Cindy Mc says you HAVE to have a small plane to travel, the roads are just dismal.


 


More than half of your first post was lies...sm
How do we know the rest of is true.

Sounds like hearsay, to me.
Obviously you skipped over half my post
I don't choose what a woman does with her body. But I know what MY God says about it and it is wrong, plain and simple. Therefore I am against it being passed. I'm sorry if that offends you.

Only about 1% of abortions are performed due to rape. 1%. And there is proven psychological evidence that most women who keep the baby have been successfully treated and are able to see the baby for what he or she is: an innocent victim. You cannot blame the child for an act that someone else has committed, and you can't approve homicide of an unborn child to make sure another human's mental health is okay.

Outside of rape and incest, abortion is just an easy answer to an inconvenient accident. Just like everything else in this nation. Let's find the easy answer. No one wants to take responsibility anymore.

Pretty soon we'll be "aborting" the elderly because they aren't worth caring for anymore and are "inconvenient". What a sad world we live in nowadays.


Too bad that over half the voters disagree with you.

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Oh geez -- my 401K is now LESS than half of
And the feds are now going to buy STOCK in failing companies with the bailout money.  Real intelligent.  Where's MY 'bailout' ?
Half price sale on gas
It has been surprisingly pleasant lately at the pump.
Oh well, half the people who voted for O have no
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But a physician half-way across the country.... sm
cannot. That is the whole point of a centralized computerized system. Just because your hospital currently has such a system in place, as many do, does not mean that is the system of the future. Obama wants the health care record to be portable, meaning it can be accessed from anywhere the patient may need care.
They voted for him because he was half white?
that is the stupidest thing I have ever read. And you speak for the majority? Get real.
Okay, then should they VOTE? My half-sister in
nm
Unless you're God, you can't cut the deficit in half AND
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... and half of them belong in JAIL.

Most of us with half a brain already knew this

Hate crimes bill.....what a joke it is in the first place, but most people who aren't on the homosexual bandwagon already knew that.  Now, at least a homosexual activist gets it!!


 


http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=531184


 


 


Keeping the glass half full SM

isn't about any of the things you name.  It comes from inside, a peace of spirit and soul. It needs no outside influence except, in my case, my love for God and his for me.  My glass has always been half full.  And it always will be because He is with me always.


His web of half-truths is going to start unraveling.
His whole policy seems to be hide, deny, backtrack, CYA, deny some more, and confuse with a half-truths and misstatements that imply what he wants people to believe.  When he gets called on it, they say we never said that.  They didn't have to, they implied it until the cows came home.  What do you want to bet that when investigative hearings start, the whole story changes again?
And I suspect half of it will end when you return to school --
as you claim you will be doing soon (I hope).
Benjamin Franklin said “Believe NONE of what you hear and HALF of what you see.” sm
Everyone on this board should heed these very wise words, especially in this day and age of the internet.  No one on line is who they seem.  Behind the scenes, there are people in high and low places stirring the pot to make you believe the other party is not playing fair.  I just wish we could stick to the facts and the issues concerning all of us instead of petty personal attacks by both sides, but that would be too much to ask as many people look at these boards to get their entertainment and direct our attention away from what is really important. 
He DOES have a half-brother living in Kenya
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So what? Biden doesn't know the half of what Obama does....nm

It's funny how half of this thread just disappeared
Makes you wonder....
haha - like half the nation is planning on doing!
;)
Don't you wish that me and half the nation which shares this view
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My at-home pays half what my inhouse job did.
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Man! I spent only a half hour looking at that site!
I could have spent more time but I'm was limited to the half hour. This man spent a lot of time deciphering and examining the certificate. I wonder if they will call on him to testify (probably not).
that doesn't make him white...my son is half black
He's not a white man, I don't know why you would even bring that into the conversation.
And half the country believes this....good grief....nm

I know I just took an inhouse job that pays me half what I make at home -
I am getting desperate to ensure that I have at least some income. My home-based job line counts are so low lately and I know it is because people are staying home. I am the only money maker in the family and I have to do something.

I am in college to get a degree to get out of this education, but have at least 3 quarters more before I am employable, and then who knows if I will be able to find a job then or not; with the way things are looking, more than likely NOT...

I wonder how it is going to help/hurt the economy and the illegal alien problem - I mean, will it make them go home or will they just draw more benefits off our government? If they go home, does that hurt or or help us?

I am being serious here - not trying to start an argument - just doing some thinking.