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If Bush changes his mind it's flip-flopping but if a Democrat and/or liberal does it he/she's just exercising his right to change their mind.

I just love pointing out blatant double standards which their seems to be a lot of in the liberal ideology.

What you fail to realize is that what is going on Washington right now is politics as usual on both sides. Both sides are playing the game to some extent. The liberals are just realllly bad at it.

* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're "exotic,
different."
* Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.

* If your name is Barrack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

* Graduate from Harvard Law School and you are unstable.
* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first
black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive
that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law
professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with more
than 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human
Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a
state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the
Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs
committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.
* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council
and 6 years as the mayor of a town with fewer than 7,000 people, 20 months as
the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to
become the country's second highest ranking executive.

* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2
beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real
Christian.
* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your
disabled wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.

* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the
proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
* If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other
option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed teen
daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.

* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a
prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community,
then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America's.
* If your husband is nicknamed "First Dude," with at least one DWI conviction
and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once
was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the
USA, your family is extremely admirable.

I'm a McCain supporter in this election and I will be voting for him. Having said that, I don't think either candidates are perfect and I'm not sure McCain's economics plans will actually benefit this country right away, but I do know that Obama's economic plan will make our situation worse. That is the main reason I'm not voting for him. Taxing companies more will lose jobs...not create them. Raising taxes during an economic crisis leads to worse economic crisis....just look at what Hoover did. He raised taxes during a recession and it started the Great Depression. FDR started several goverment assisted programs to help and they actually extended the duration of the great depression. Obama wants to raise taxes and wants to institute new government assisted programs.

As for the allegations of him being born outside of the country....who knows. He claims he was born in Hawaii and if that is the case, show your birth certificate and be done with it. If you have nothing to hide, show it. Ya know. I feel that there have been many things that Obama has not been outright and honest about. If any other politician had the associations and the history as Obama has had.....their political career would be in the gutter. I do not understand this love affair the media has with Obama.

I do not trust Obama and let me reiterate that this is not a race thing. I don't think John McCain is a saint and I do know that all politicians lie to get elected but I just feel like John McCain has served this country all of his life and I would feel more comfortable with him in the oval office than a man we hardly know, who won't answer questions honestly about himself or his associations, and has very little experience.

into poverty, but you don't want the money it takes to care for these children to come out of your pocket???? Am I on the mark?

I guess this is another so-called way to sling mud at Obama. The rich republicans can't have it both ways. You either care for the unborn (welfare for their mothers) or you allow the mother the choice... Which is it?

Not all abortions are a form of birth control, ya' know. I knew a very religious lady that aborted her child due to hydrocephalus. The child would been born deformed/a vegetable. This would have put this lady at high risk. She prayed about it and soon after aborted the child. She had to live with that.

Not all situations are the same. Furthermore, you can't force your child to have a baby or to have an abortion. Either way, it's her body.

If the cartoon doesn't offend me, I am racist. If I didn't vote for Obama, I am racist. If I am not up in arms about something as silly as a political cartoon, I am racist. I have never dated or been married to a black man, does that make me racist? There are no black people who live in my community (it is very small), does that make us all racists? I do have several black friends, do I get a free pass for that? I go to movies that feature black actors, is that okay? I like to listen to the Motown channel on Sirius radio, is that okay? Oh, I like Whoopi Goldberg, Halle Berry, and I even think Michelle Obama is fairly attractive, do I get a free pass for that too? Oh, but I don't like Oprah, so that makes me a racist, right?

This argument is old as the hills and will never go away. To each his own, don't obsess about it.

You think I'm a hypocrit because you knew a flamboyant homosexual when you were growing up? That almost made sense....

Tell me, if you meet a homosexual and you don't approve of his/her mannerisms, does that give you the right to attack him? What happens if someone doesn't approve of your mannerisms?

you choose to start a grammar war, hurl personal insults, get thoroughly defeated by practically everyone on this board, then go crying to the moderator? We have a couple of American sayings (maybe Midwestern, you would be the expert on that, I suppose):

FYI, if you are transcribing for American accounts, you really should be familiar with the vernacular. Doctors often use slang in direct quotes and typing ''criminal'' for criminetly would make you look quite silly.

That's one step in the right direction. I hope he doesn't mean CREATE some facts.

If this is true though, it is cheap for the US to be involved with this company. Same thing though with the United Arab Emirites and their child camel jockeys (see link).

continued slamming of the President and this country. Ask yourself what you're really gaining by doing so. My political affiliation has NO bearing on this whatsoever. I expect people to behave appropriately on all forums. ForuMatrix is a website that is open to the entire world, not just the US and I am ashamed of some of what I read knowing that people in other countries are reading it too. Don't think for a minute that I am only pointing out the Liberal board. Far from it. I've had to come down on some posters on the Conservatives board, too. So, what this all comes down to is that respectful posting will be adhered to or I won't allow posting. We need to go back to old fashioned VALUES, if we think that way then the words we write won't be as cutting. You may not agree with me and that is your prerogative and I am not trying to censor you, rather I would prefer that you and others post in kind and with respect.

Those who cannot afford any insurance at all will get "Cadillac" plans (that's what fed employees receive) underwritten by the rest of us?! Meanwhile we continue to pay out the nose for our crappy policies, which will be less than the "Cadillac" plans, while we are paying for the ne'er do wells' "Cadillac" coverage?

That's not the kind of "change" most of us want, although I can certainly see why the recipients of this "handout" would think it's a great deal!!!

At least somebody is honest. If you Google something like that, you'd get all kinds of info that conflicts with the others. Nice of you to do this.

Obama said he would withdraw troops from IRAQ and add troops to AFGHANISTAN. Those would be 2 different wars. We aren't at war with "the middle east."

Obama said he would not punish his daughters if they made a mistake with "a baby". He did not say a pregnancy, or a fetus. I heard him say that.

Also he voted to allow babies that survived an abortion to be left to die, not given any assistance after they were born alive.

Maureen Dowd

I�ve been in Alaska only a week, but I�m already feeling ever so much smarter about Russia.

I can�t quite see it from my hotel window, but, hey, I know it�s out there somewhere, beyond all the stuffed bears and cruise ships and glaciers and oil derricks.

The proximity of the country from which William Seward bartered to buy Alaska for $7 million � Seward�s icebox � is so illuminating that I suddenly realize that we would commit a grave error by overestimating Russia�s economic strength. After all, it represents only 2.8 percent of the world�s G.D.P., even though its gross domestic product has ballooned from $200 billion in 1999 to $1.7 trillion this year.

But I overanalyze.

An Arctic blast of action has swept into the 2008 race, making thinking pass�. We don�t really need to hurt our brains studying the world; we just need the world to know we�re capable of bringing a world of hurt to the world if the world continues to be hell-bent on misbehaving.

Two weeks after being thrown onto a national ticket, and moments after being speed-briefed by McCain foreign-policy advisers, our new Napoleon in bunny boots (not the Pamela Anderson kind, but the knock-offs of the U.S. Army Extreme Cold Weather Vapor Barrier Boots) is ready to face down the Russkies and start a land war over Georgia, and, holy cow, what business is it of ours if Israel attacks Iran?

The trigger-happy John McCain has indeed found a soul mate. Trigger squared. In Fairbanks on Thursday, at a deployment ceremony for her son who is going to Iraq, Governor Palin followed the lead of McCain and W. in fusing Osama bin Laden�s diabolical work on 9/11 and the mission in Iraq. She told the departing troops, �You�ll be there to defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the deaths of thousands of Americans.�

Asked by Charlie Gibson what insight into Russian actions her Alaskan proximity gave her, Sarah blithely replied: �They�re our next-door neighbors. And you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska.�

Being a next-door neighbor is not quite enough, though. If Sarah had been reading about the world she feels so confident about leading rather than just parroting by rote what Randy Scheunemann and the neocons around McCain drilled into her last week � Drill, baby, drill! � she might have realized that as heinous as Russia�s behavior toward Georgia was, it was not completely unprovoked. The State Department has let it be known that it warned McCain�s friend, Misha, the hotheaded president of Georgia, not to send troops in to crush the rebellion in two breakaway states.

And she might not have had to clench her jaw and play for time when Gibson raised the Bush doctrine, the wacko preemption philosophy that so utterly changed the world.

The really scary part of the Palin interview was how much she seemed like W. in 2000, and not just the way she pronounced nu-cue-lar. She had the same flimsy but tenacious adeptness at saying nothing, the same generalities and platitudes, the same restrained resentment at being pressed to be specific, as though specific is the province of silly eggheads, not people who clear brush at the ranch or shoot moose on the tundra.

Just as W. once could not name the General-General running Pakistan, so Palin took a position on Pakistan that McCain had derided as na�ve when Obama took it.

�We must not, Charlie, blink, Charlie, because, Charlie, as I�ve said, Charlie, before, John McCain has said, Charlie, that � and remember here, Charlie, we�re talking about John McCain, Charlie, who, Charlie, is John McCain and I won�t be blinking, Charlie.�

She tried to finesse her previous church comments about Iraq, asking worshipers to pray �that there is a plan, and that plan is God�s plan.� Earnestly repeating after her tutors, she said she had meant to echo Abraham Lincoln, that in war we must pray that we are on God�s side rather than that he is on ours. But her original comments sounded more W. than Abe � taking your policy and ideology and giving it the hallowed mantle of a mission from God.

Sarah has single-handedly ushered out the �Sex and the City� era, and made the sexy new model for America a retro one � the glamorous Pioneer Woman, packing a gun, a baby and a Bible.

Her explosion onto the scene made Obama seem even more like a windy, wispy egghead. Like W., Sarah has the power of positive unthinking. But now we may want to think about where ignorance and pride and no self-doubt has gotten us. Being quick on the trigger might be good in moose hunting, but in dealing with Putin, a little knowledge might come in handy.

Did you not watch the video???? That is EXACTLY what Obama said. So now you are saying that Obama himself is not credible????

What I found even MORE ridiculous is what he said before having said "I am the change."