Let's face it, he stands no chance of winning. However, with the
Posted By: anon on 2008-10-08
In Reply to: Ralph Nader - gourdpainter
econmy in mind, he would definitely be the guy to fix this horrible situation we find ourselves in. My whole intention in giving my vote to Mr. Nader is this: I am not going to give up my right to vote, I will be at the polls and I will cast my vote. That being said, I am sick and tired of being lied to and manipulated. I am tired of having my intelligence insulted over and over again by politics as usual in Washington. I will cast a vote and send a message. I know that my tiny vote and its tiny message won't be heard, but I will have satisfaction in knowing that I followed my heart and I did not vote for any Washington liar. We need a change alright and neither McCain or Obama is going to bring it.
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If the McCain/Palin ticket has any chance of winning...sm
the election, they need to about face, stop the negativity, stop talking about Obama, and tell the American people how life would be better if he were elected president. If he doesn't, he does not have a chance. John McCain needs to stop pandering to the religious right and go back to the maverick that he used to be, representing middle America.
How can she be ready to face our nation's problems when she won't even face any questions on h
she is just a big gimmick to get the women voters that were bitter about Hillary's loss.
She's supposed to be this tough pitbull but she won't campaign out on her own or is allowed to talk to the press ?!?! More like a chicken if you ask me than a pitbull.
Abiding with the moratorium....I think if we all worked face-to-face (sm)
We could all talk about our differences as friends. Some we would get along with and others not but we could talk about all of it respectfully with each other. Having the anonymity makes us all probably take things up a notch or two higher than we would in person, but I suspect we would all be making the same points, just in person. That said, with election day being tomorrow, I hope that all of us, no matter who is elected, will make the best of the situation and try to be kind to our fellow human beings regardless of race or religion.. Good night and Amen...lol 
sm clearly stands for
small message. NM stands for no message so you don't have to waste your time clicking on the link. I can see why you are an Obama supporter now. LOL!
It stands for
asdf
It stands for
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Against it as it stands.....
like I said, tax cuts don't work (as evidence by the current crisis we are in). They need to go back to the drawing board and figure out a spending bill that helps the most devastated states by continuing jobs and creating jobs. Forget the little checks. We need more than that.
I respect someone who stands for what they believe in...
and you obviously do, and I appreciate that you also respect my stand. While we agree to disagree on certain things, we have had this exchange without making it mean or personal. Be Blessed!
I am SO impressed with everything Obama stands
<3 Obama 
Socialism aside....If there were no other reason, this stands alone....sm
as the greatest reason to despise this man.
But he's the MAVERICK that stands up to his own party - nm
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Wanna know what Obama stands for?
One
Big
A$$
Mistake,
America!
You are so right, we are winning and
It will be a better world with Obama. He will restore our image around the world and loosen up our finances a bit, ensure we have health care, etc. Nobody has ever addressed these important issues. It's refreshing and touching, encouraging and a long time coming.
It also stands for National Drug Code but no
It's the National Democratic Congress, of which I'm sure some of you, or maybe not.....never mind. I've realized dems on this board aren't really interested in really finding out about the real Obama.
Study up and don't come back here acting as if you can't find anything. If you want, you will. And you'll know it when you see it.
Connect the dots.
STEALING is not winning!!!
Blogger responses to the rigging of Ohio's voting system:
The law growls a bit but comes up toothless for the common man most of the time--at all levels. Take the Supreme Court (please! as Henny Youngman would say). It was right down there in the gutter, snarling over the bone, which it wrested away in the 2000 election and handed over to George W. Bush. Democrat John Kerry did not attempt to even test this right-leaning court (with its Bush appointees) over the foul voting-day thievery in Ohio that cost him the election in 2004--his resolve no doubt already weakened by the vicious "Swift Boat" slander that had had been slathered over him during the preceding months. Consider, if you will, the eventual condition of our court system all across the country due to the appointment of federal judges at all levels. It's bad enough after 8 years of George Bush. Do we want another 4 or 8 years at the hands of McCain and/or Palin? Start by considering the decisions concerning just the environment--pollution, land-use, etc. They come up on a regular basis. We are fortunate to still have some long-time judges with integrity who date from earlier times. But this, too, could pass. Palin, in addition to being a Creationist, also doesn't believe in Global Warming. McCain, despite his inane campaign remarks, is right there in the hip pocket of big oil, opposes alternate energy sources (check his Senate record) and isn't really much concerned about the melting of the polar ice cap and glaciers everywhere. Not to mention the extinction of species (eventually our own?) and old-growth timber, the conversion of the Pacific ocean into a floating garbage dump that is a bird and fish killer. The country and the planet just can't stand the theft of another election by the Republicans.
Man alive.....there's no winning!
Now it's the republicans fault the bailout went through. Now, if they had held firm and NOT voted for it, and things continued to look bad for a while, you would have blamed them for NOT voting for the handout.
You just can't make up your mind.
obama winning
scares me in so may different ways... this would be one of the many reasons.
SEATTLE, WA — Joe Biden says he’s certain that if Barack Obama is elected president, there will be an international crisis to test his strength within the first 6 months of his presidency.
“Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We’re about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America.” he told a fundraising crowd in the Pacific Northwest on Sunday. “Remember I said it standing here if you don’t remember anything else I said. Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”
“He’s gonna have to make some really tough - I don’t know what the decision’s gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it’s gonna happen.”
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/20/biden-if-elected-the-world-will-test-obama-with-a-crisis/
Yes, exactly...By winning over the moderates
O minimizes and weakens the power of the terrorists. The voice of the people (the moderates)is a very strong voice.
Obama winning BECAUSE he's black?
Do you hear yourself? You need a time out.
Wisdom and humor too. A winning combination.
nm
Who was rude? I just said she sounds young. You are just mad cuz Obama is winning
so everything i say is hateable from your point... well you can kiss my grits lady...you cannot come to my victory party... no snotty argumentative loser rednecks allowed.
I don;'t think McCain/Palin are the ones winning by hook or CROOK,
That would be Obama/Biden
Why does Obama winning make Americans clueless?...nm
ss
and "the polls" said Kerry was winning on election night
but you probably still think those polls were correct, so I just wasted my breath.
Any chance you could get down here
next Sept. 20-21? If you could I promise you a position in the judge's tent for the Dutch oven cook-off judging. Each cook makes 3 D. O. dishes, bread, main dish and dessert. There are usually around 15 teams entered. You'd love it.
Any chance
the mother ship will come back and get them?
are you obsessed, per chance?
Are you obsessed with gt? This post must have been from a while ago, I don't remember reading it. To actually spend time to find it and repost it, I don't know about that. I guess my point is, do you really think your reposting is changing anything political-wise when it comes to ideology and trying to open other's minds or understand the opposite political spectrum? What is your purpose of reposting something from weeks ago other than to cause disruption and conflict on the board and to actually try to cause hate which, from what I have read, the liberals posting on this board have been doing a good job trying to keep harmony. Can I make a suggestion, let it go.
It probably has no chance of passing sm
and was just a symbolic parting shot, but some of us are grateful anyway. Rallies from coast to coast today are honoring and thanking Cynthia. Wonder what makes you think her party has disowned her.
My favorite clip of Cynthia vs Rumsfeld below:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eootfzAhAoU
Snowball's chance
I don't think Ron Paul has a snowball's chance of winning, but I wouldn't vote for him anyway.
There is a good chance....since we get most of our oil from...
foreign countries. However, if you inflate your tires properly, we could be of dependence on foreign oil pretty soon. Good chance your gas came from the same place. You a supporter of terrorism? Not hardly, any more than McCain is. Geez.
No chance of that happening...but
The last time we had a democrat president most of my family, freinds, and freinds family WERE homeless. Lost their jobs, lost their homes, lived in their cars, went to the soup kitchens once a day for a meal. The last democrat president implemented NAFTA (not sure implemented is the right word - but was responsible for the start of our jobs going overseas). Continued the deficit (not a surplus like he conned everyone he did). So luckily Bush is not running again so no chance of us being homeless. McCain and Palin gives us experience, loyalty, and a fresh face and ideas for the country. Obama and Biden gives us inexperience, lies, and false hopes. I don't want to end up homeless and broke so therefore I will NOT be voting for Obama. Obama is more of the same except with different packaging.
He reminds me of that commercial by Microsoft for the Mohave experiment. Its the same ol crappy Vista system only being hidden under the disguise called the Mohave experiment. And nobody knows its Vista until they are told.
If they did that, there's a good chance the
There would just continue to be excuse after excuse after excuse.
No more excuses, I want some ANSWERS.
Please give him a chance.
The press conference was 4 days after he was elected. As for who he picking for his staff, he said as soon as he decides who will fill these positions, he will make an annoucement. I, too, am glad he apologized to Nancy Reagan. I knew as soon as I heard those words, there was going to be stuff said. Also, you can blame the press for the question about the dog -- he doesn't have control over questions like that. We need to be patient and not be so nitpicky over such small things. I can't even imagine the pressure he is under right now, not to mention exhausted, and he probably hasn't even had the chance to mourn his grandmother.
He had another chance to do that and he failed
When he was just in Hawaii. A very simple trip to get his bc and prove to everyone he is legal would have solved everything, but he didn't do that.
He is basically saying to the country. I know I don't meet the legal qualifications, so what. There's nothing you can do about it.
Not a snowball's chance if
you think all you have to do is sit around taking pot shots at O for 4 years and turn zero focus on the implosion of the GOP, it's leadership deficit, the long dark shadow of W's scorched earth legacy and their need for a platform transplant. Yeah. Good luck in 2016.
At least give the guy a chance.
He needs some time but I can see that if someone disagrees with anything he says, they'll be called racist. That is completely unfair.
My personal opinion of freezing his staff salary is that is a little bit of nothing. It was just a show. If he wants to impress, he needs to freeze the salaries of all Washington politicians. That would impress me!
I am giving him a chance and I
know that this isn't a quick fix. I'm realistic enough to know Obama cannot wave a magic wand and make this all go away. I'm just saying that for a man who hasnt' been pres for a whole week......he has made a lot of promises already with 2 already broken. I'm not trying to get a lynching mob together. I just want to stay informed of what my president and the government is doing because I refuse to just assume they are making the right decisions. Holy crap people.....seriously! Xanax....try some.
EVERYONE! This your chance to do something about outsourcing
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/resources/video/commercials/elevator-commercial.html
What can you do?
* Call President Obama at 202-456-1111 and ask him to ensure that all new jobs created under a stimulus package go to American citizens and authorized immigrants already here. Tell the person answering the phone that the administration should suspend most work visas and green cards until it can be determined that issuing them will not harm the chances of unemployed Americans.
* Send a fax to your Senators urging them to make sure that only American citizens and authorized immigrants already here get jobs created by whatever economic stimulus package eventually is adopted.
* Fax your House Member thanking him/her for ensuring that the stimulus bill kept jobs out of the hands of illegal foreign workers but urging that in negotiations with the Senate businesses and governments should also be prohibited from using stimulus money to import more foreign workers.
* Read NumbersUSA's fact sheet Putting Americans Back to Work.
* Forward this page to as many Americans as possible to educate them about the statistics the media and government don't want them to know -- and to warn them what may happen to their jobs if they don't join you in taking action.
* Post your comments about the ad and this campaign.
Well I just had a chance to listen
to this and you kinda misrepresented what he said. Surprise surprise.
He said he hated about 10 people out of the 3000 plus 911 victims' families who won't stop complaining, then he compared the people in New Orleans who were making it hard on everybody else there by not cooperating to those same type of people who are never satisfied no matter how much people are trying to help them.
I completely agree with everything he says on this. I never really felt sorry for the people in New Orleans who refused to leave when they knew way ahead of time that a disaster was looming.
i wish we could be face to face
man lady you are something you know that? did you get on here to stir the pot or something? i am a woman that can conceive and I will tell you that I think you are a horrible person for thinking it is okay to get rid of your baby. There, I said it. that is MY opinion. Gonna try to get me banned now? Go ahead. Cry about it why dontcha?
Here it is, right in your face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's from the documentary "Media Malpractice - How Obama Got Elected"
Ever heard of YouTube? Or the internet? Amazing that you're the only one in America who hasn't seen the footage.
Go to www.howobamagotelected.com if you're interested in seeing the truth (which I doubt).
And here's an quote from the Zogby poll that inspired the film.
"UTICA, New York -- Just 2% of voters who supported Barack Obama on Election Day aced the post election test which gauged their knowledge of statements and scandals associated with the presidential tickets during the campaign, a new Zogby International poll shows.
Only 54% of Obama voters were able to answer at least half or more of the questions correctly.
The telephone survey of 512 Obama voters nationwide was conducted Nov. 13-15, 2008, and carries a margin of error of +/- 4.4 percentage points.
Obama voters did not fare nearly as well overall when asked to answer questions about statements or stories associated with Obama or Biden --
83% failed to correctly answer that Obama had won his first election by getting all of his opponents removed from the ballot.
88% did not correctly associate Obama with his statement that his energy policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry.
Nearly three quarters (72%) of Obama voters did not correctly identify Biden as the candidate who had to quit a previous campaign for President because he was found to have plagiarized a speech.
In addition to questions regarding statements and scandals associated with the campaigns, the survey also included a question asking which political party controlled both houses of Congress leading up to the election -- 57% of Obama voters were unable to correctly answer that it was Democrats."
Ignorance elected Obama. You're a prime example.
Well, on the face of it....
a "national security force" and Obama's statement about it does sound "Hitler-ish." Hitler's national security force was Gestapo. You really think we need a national security force in the US? We have the National Guard...ahhhh but the National Guard is in control of the individual states and that would not serve the same purpose as a "national security force" operating under the President...does it? Basically a military strength and trained force that functions as a police force gets around posse comitatus. That little statement of Barry's didn't give you the least bit of pause?
Any chance, there would be a point in this post>
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Do you agree that Democrats had a chance...
to head this off in 2006 at John McCain's urging? That the situation we find ourselves in now was avoidable?
Actually Bill Clinton had the chance
To get Osama and he never did. This started long before GW ever got in the white house. You may not like GW - I can't stand him, but I'm not going to blame him for something that started in the Clinton administration.
Anyone over 40 years old has a very good chance
of having Down's syndrome child at birth.
I worry more about Biden being President and Pelosi being VP.
90 percent of Melanoma growths are curable. Lung cancer is bad. Smoking is bad.
I'm willing to give the man a fair chance...
...the exact same way I gave George W. Bush a fair chance even though I didn't vote for him. It was only after he was in office and I saw his contempt for the Constitution and for anyone who wasn't filthy rich that I formed my negative opinion of him. It was his very own actions that formed that opinion, not partisan hearsay.
If this issue is legitimate, why in the world aren't Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Laura Ingraham and/or any of the other right-wing media screaming it from the rooftops?
If this issue is legitimate, why in the world didn't Hillary Clinton or John McCain scream it from the rooftops?
The SC will meet this coming Friday, in private (five days before the EC votes) to discuss whether or not they will hear this case.
If the SC goes against the will of the people in this nation and selects the US President again, then the mayhem that will result will make it very easy for George W. Bush to declare martial law (to control the "masses") and officially promote himself to "Dictator in Chief" for an indefinite period of time.
Perhaps that's the true goal of all of this.
If somehow, the will of the people is upheld, we need to be a country of AMERICANS that bond together. We are living in very dangerous and challenging economic times right now. This isn't Obama's fault. It's the fault of George W. Bush and the crippled America that Obama will inherit from Bush. Something tells me, though, that you'll find a way to blame Obama for the sins of Bush, regardless of what happens.
As for me, I'm sick of reading and responding to posts regarding this nonissue. I'm more concerned with legitimate problems facing this country, as they are extremely serious, real and potentially life threatening.
Have at it all you want. I won't be participating any more. I want to be a part of the America that supports its President, especially in these emergent times, not the small, bitter minority that will never give Obama a chance. He could wind up being the best President we've ever had, but sadly, some people will never even realize it.
I just hope he's given at least the chance to be inaugurated...
...before some right-wing home-grown terrorist (with or without the prior knowledge of the GOP) decides to enact "what is to come."
That truly is my biggest fear.
I just don't understand the absolute refusal of some to even give Obama a chance. These are the Americans who frighten me the most, the ones who seem to be the most angry and bitter.
I never voted for Bush, but when he was first installed in the White House, I never felt this bitter about him. In fact, I was starting to like him a little right after 9/11. It was HIS actions in the years to follow that absolutely disgusted me and the very first time in my life that I was afraid of my country's leader.
But I didn't flat-out hate him before he was even sworn in.
If Obama has the opportunity to survive a Presidential term and has actually been a GOOD President, would you even recognize it, or are you so firmly implanted in your crystal ball's readings of "what's to come" that that's all you can see? 
In any event, I hope you and everyone else who visits this board has a happy, healthy and prosperous 2009 that is full of love. My health hasn't been all that great, and I need to surround myself with hope and optimism.
thanks for the website, i'll look at it when i get a chance...
we can kindly agree to disagree; i am tired of the hate and negativity here! hope you have a good day!
Thought I'd take a chance last night
and watched Olbermann because I was bored and wanted to see what all the hoopla is about over him.
Turned the channel after 5 minutes. He just spews hate. He took pot shots at everyone not conforming to his thinking and tried to twist words of his guests.
JTBB: Did you get a chance to watch it? s/m
Let me know what you think.
I came across this because I was researching the Bilderberger Group. I had seen a documentary earlier today on IFC and so decided to see what I could find. Ran across a list of members and, interestingly enough, one of the American members just happens to be David Rockefeller.
As far as the OP's comments, I was wondering why the need to be so insulting to someone not even addressing them directly Pent-up aggression much?
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Intense public scrutiny?
Wed, 09/10/2008 - 16:38 — Anonymous (not verified)