LOVED the tick comparison!
Posted By: Ticks they ARE, on 2008-09-04
In Reply to: Being an objective observer, the repugnants appear to be the most evil. - Surely you jest.
sucking every last drop of blood out of us little guys who are little more to them than just cogs in the wheel.
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Well, it does tick me off a little bit....
I admit it. Can't step out of the spotlight for a few days to deal with this problem in person. Frankly, it does not make me feel good about what he chooses to delegate. this is the greatest crisis this country has faced in decades and his answer is "call me if you need me." Good lord.
Well here's some news that will REALLY tick you off...sm
As far as AIG goes? I heard on NPR last night that Sne. Dodd made an amendment for those "contractually obligated bonuses," which was in the bailout plan.
Here's the Dodd Amendment story: http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/finance/dodd-cracks-aig---time/
Also President Obama and Sen. Dodd were the two largest recipients of campaign contributions from the beleaguered company, and the only politicians to garner six-figure amounts from AIG in 2008 — $103,100 for Sen. Dodd and $100,332 for presidential candidate Obama.
Rest of the story is here:
http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=3383
Now how do you feel? As if we hadn't already figured it out, our govt is selling us and our earnings now and for a long time to whomever will give them the vote, the best deal, whatever. And this is supposed to be a democracy??? Like I said just wait............
Tick tock. I'm waiting, too.
Yes, by comparison...sm
There is a whole world of news media beyond Fox, CNN, MSNBC and network news outlets (listed in descending order of conservative tendencies, but conservative just the same). These are not what you would consider liberal wacko sources, which also offer interesting perspectives and legitimate information (it’s called the other side of the issues). Even other conservative newspaper, journal and broadcast news media sources beyond the narrow scope of America’s corporate “prime” conglomerate sources would be way too liberal for some, but they do give much more of a balanced, less spun picture. The highly regarded BBC comes to mind, just to mention one of thousands, though they have a decidedly western bias and can be counted among the sources that fail to report many issues. Fair and balanced sources abound. They just cannot be easily found on US TV stations. Why that is the case is another whole story.
No comparison..........
Ann Coulter is a tranny - at least Dowd is funny!
No comparison
What in tarhooties have you been smokin'...no comparison?? The Iran Contra mess was horrible, and to this day it galls me to see people like John McCain and Oliver North (who should have been court-martialed and imprisoned) strutting around acting as if their stuff does not stink.
no comparison
Stealing a toy in first grade in no way compares with terrorist acts for which you show no remorse.
There is a comparison
With McCain we aren't talking about any old skin cancer, we're talking melanoma, recurrent at that. A smoking history with the possibility of cancer really doesn't compare to that.
That combined with his age and complications thereof do present a very real possibility of Sarah Palin being president in the near future. With that in mind, yes, I am concerned about Palin's medical records. Really, with her it's more of a credibility issue. I'm not saying that last baby isn't hers, but considering the rather odd circumstances surrounding the birth of that child, it does raise a lot of questions that she obviously is not willing to answer.
comparison...(sm)
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles3/Jayne_Hitler-Bush.htm
Bush vs. Hitler: I see a buch of Bush's ACTIONS that coincide with Hitler's.
http://fredshelm.wordpress.com/2008/06/05/barack-the-black-hitler/
Obama vs. Hitler: I see a bunch of guesses about what Obama will do compared to what Hitler has done.
Quote from article: *Obama and Hitler both have displayed a penchant for eliminating “undesirable” infants.* -- Now that's a stretch.
http://theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/21PbAr/Pl/Clnt%20Htlr.htm
Clinton vs. Hitler: This one is just way out on a limb
Again, it wasn't a comparison.
But I know how you like to jump to conclusions, so you can win this one in your mind.
Stark Comparison
;Experience Tale of the Tape: Palin vs Obama
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Sarah Palin |
Barack Obama |
Office being sought |
Vice President |
President of the United States and Leader of the Free World |
Full name |
Sarah Louise Heath Palin |
Barack Hussein Obama II |
Nickname |
Sarah Barracuda |
Barry Obama; "The One" |
Public opinion |
Smoking hot in a "naughty librarian" sort of way |
May be The Messiah |
Age |
44 |
48 |
Children |
5: two sons, three daughters |
2: two daughters |
Religion/Church attendance |
Evangelical Christian;
attends Juneau Christian Center when in Juneau and grew up attending Wasilla Assembly of God |
Attended Trinity United Church of Christ for 20 years, a "black liberation theology" church formerly led by Rev. Jeremiah Wright and governed according to Black Value System |
Current Job |
Governor of Alaska |
Junior Senator from Illinois |
Previous Public Jobs |
Mayor of Wasilla, AK (1996-2006); President of Alaska Conference of Mayors;
City Council member (1992-1996) |
State Senator (1997-2004);
Community Organizer
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Executive Experience |
Governor for 2 years;
Mayor for 10 years |
None |
Foreign Relations experience |
Governor of state that borders two foreign countries (Canada and Russia) |
Chaired Senate subcommittee on Europe but never called it into session;
once gave a speech to 200,000 screaming Germans |
Military Affairs experience |
Commander in Chief of Alaska National Guard;
Son is enlisted Infantryman in U.S. Army |
None |
Private Sector Experience |
Sports reporter;
Salmon fisherman |
Associate at civil rights law firm |
Speaking ability |
Beautifully executed initial stump speech in Dayton, OH hockey arena without a teleprompter
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An enter...wait--did you say without a teleprompter?? |
Spouse's name |
Todd Mitchell Palin |
Michelle LaVaughn Robinson Obama |
Spouse's occupation |
Salmon fisherman;
Former North Slope production supervisor for BP Oil |
Vice President for Community and External Affairs at University of Chicago Hospitals;
former Associate Dean of Student Services at the University of Chicago;
former Executive Director for the Chicago office of Public Allies;
former Assistant to the Mayor of Chicago;
former associate at Sidley Austin law firm
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Reaction to spouse's political success |
Quit 17-year BP oil job when BP became involved in natural gas pipeline negotiations with wife's administration |
Promoted and given 160% pay raise by UofC hospitals within months of husband's election to U.S. Senate;
Employer rece ived $1,000,000.00 federal earmark, requested by husband, after her promotion |
Coolest thing about Spouse |
Tesoro Iron Dog Snowmobile race champion (longest snowmobile race in the world);
In 2008, while defending his championship, was injured when he was thrown 70 feet from his machine. He was sent to the hospital but still finished in fourth place |
Sister of Oregon State University head basketball coach Craig Robinson |
Most Courageous Moment in Public Service |
Resigned in protest from position of Ethics Commissioner of Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission in order to expose legal violations and conflicts of interest of Alaska Republican leaders, including the former state Attorney General and the State GOP Chairman (who was also an Oil & Gas Commissioner), who was doing work for the party on public time and supplying a lobbyist with a sensitive e-mail. |
Gave an anti-Iraq war speech to a crowd of anti-Iraq war demonstrators in Hyde Park in 2002 |
In Current Office Because... |
Upset sitting Governor in GOP primary due to public support for her efforts to clean up corrupt government establishment |
Republican opponent, who was leading in the polls, was forced to leave race after unsealing of divorce records exposed a sex scandal |
Theme: |
Change and Clean Government |
Hope and Change;
"Bringing Change from Outside Washington" |
What they've done to live that theme: |
Replaced entire Board of Agriculture and Conservation because of conflict of interest;
Resigned from position of Ethics Commissioner of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission in order to expose corruption among members of own party |
Selected 36-year incumbent Senator as running mate |
Family Affairs |
May have removed State Public Safety Commissioner as part of effort to protect sister in messy divorce and child custody battle |
Often says, "I am my brother's keeper";
Brother lives in a hut in Nairobi on $12 per year |
Union affiliation |
Union member, married to Union member
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Endorsed by a union |
Iraq and Troop Support |
Formerly (pre-surge) critical of apparent lack of long-term strategy for Iraq;
Visited wounded U.S. soldiers in Germany;
visited AK National Guard soldiers deployed to Kuwait;
Son deploying to Iraq on 9/11/08 as Army infantryman
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Gave an anti-Iraq war speech to a crowd of anti-Iraq war demonstrators;
almost visited wounded troops in Germany, but decided to go shopping in Berlin instead |
Bipartisan/"maverick" credentials |
Married to a non-Republican;
Exposed corruption within own party;
Campaigned for Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell against corrupt GOP congressman Don Young;
Called out Sen Ted Stevens (R-AK) to "come clean" about financial dealings that are under fed investigation
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Talks about bipartisanship |
Legislative Record |
Passed a landmark ethics reform bill;
Used veto to cut budgetary spending;
Prevented "bridge to nowhere" that would have cost taxpayers $400 million dollars.
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Voted "present" over 100 times as IL state senator |
How they dealt with corrupt individuals in home city/state |
Exposed legal violations and conflicts of interest of Alaska Republican leaders;
Campaigned against corrupt GOP Representative;
Ran against and defeated corrupt incumbent governor in GOP primary
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Launched political career in home of unrepentant domestic terrorist Bill Ayers (and still refers to him as a part of "mainstream Democratic Chicago";
Purchased home with help of convicted felon Tony Rezko |
Guns |
Lifetime member of NRA and avid hunter;
video can be found on YouTube of Palin firing an M4 at a military firing range |
Worked to pass legislation in Illinois that would prevent all law-abiding citizens from owning firearms |
Earmarks |
Opposed "Bridge to Nowhere" project;
Said Alaska should avoid relying on federal money for projects;
Campaigned against porker Don Young (R-AK) in 2008 primary
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Secured federal earmarks for wife's employer and for href='http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/12/did-obama-amplify-pork-for-bundlers/"' target=_blank top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)?>color=#0000ff size=4 New campaign bundlers |
Abortion |
Pro life;
gave birth to 5th child knowing that it would have Down's syndrome |
Pro-choice;
only IL state sen. to speak against the Born Alive Infant's Protection Act, which required medical care to be given to live infants who survived abortions |
Energy |
Believes energy independence is a matter of national security;
For drilling in ANWR, which is in her state |
Says Americans should "get tune-ups" and "check tire pressure";
Says "we can't expect the world to be okay with" our use of heating and air conditioning |
Environment |
Chair of Alaska Conservation Commission (2003-4);
Announced plans to create sub-cabinet group of advisors to address climate change and reduce greenhouse gas emissions in AK |
Talks about the environment a lot |
Athletic prowess |
Runs marathons |
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are you actually making this comparison
Obama to JFK? No way. 'nuff said.
There is NO comparison to this and Obama
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A comparison has been drawn.... sm
between the way Obama stood on issues versus the way Hitler stood on issues and what the outcome was of Hitler's regime in Germany. What is wrong in drawing conclusions based on what history has borne out?
I am not saying that Bush and Palin are without spot. They are politicians, first and foremost, just as Obama is. If they are fodder for the liberal press to shred, then why is Obama exempt from criticism?
And 4% of the popular vote is not exactly what I would call an overwelming majority, especially in light of the discussion Marmann and I had below on this board about how informed the voters were in this election.
Your comparison, not mine.
Can't blame him at all for trying to grab a couple of gasps of fresh air after being immersed in the cesspool with the tax cuts for the rich or else monolith.
That was not a good comparison
That was the best you could do and you are claiming someone else has a lack of understanding and education. When you use bad taste, you lose credibility. I think this thread has lost its credibility at this point.
Can't help making the comparison
I'm not saying he's Abe Lincoln or Socrates either. I'm just saying I can finally stand to listen to presidental speeches again without cringing. And I think you're desperately seeking something to gripe about, if you need to gripe about this guy's speaking ability and didn't find any problems with the prior guy's speeches.
HA HA HA HA HA - loved it
The insanity drives me crazy.
Loved it...thank you!
GO OBAMA!!
What I loved even better (sm)
was that he was trying to give her good advice - advice she should listen to, and she wouldn't have any of it. I like her, but I don't take her too seriously and I don't think anyone else should either. She's a satirist, like Bill Maher for the left.
Republicans have been in power now for eight years and the Democrats did nothing but scream and yell about what a terrible job they were doing. Now that the Democrats are in power, they're going to have to get used to hearing that same screaming and yelling from the Republicans - it's just the way politics works =)
But your loved one will have to have
but a government-run facility. Have you ever tried to help someone with a mental illness get insurance? Especially someone who is the catch-22 of can't get insurance without a job--can't get a job without medication/treatment--can't get medication/treatment without insurance--thank you for calling social services; we currently have no openings in our treatment programs and our prescription assistance service ran out of funding for the year in February, but we can put you on the list.
Loved it...LOL...nm
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No it isn't!!! That is absolutely NOT a comparison! Get real! nm
They are minimal in comparison to what faces us...
as I have said, I wish EITHER of the candidates had done this SOONER. Frankly, I tired of hearing what they would do. I want them to actually DO something. Prove to me you can handle the situation NOW. Don't get up and for the love of pete just TALK about it. At least one of them finally decided that the financial well being of this country was more important than campaigning. If Obama had been the first, I would be saying HE did the right thing and I would NOT be saying he was ducking a debate. I think we know they can both debate, we heard them during their primaries. What I want to see them do is help FIX THIS financial fiasco and make sure it gets done properly. I think that is the most important thing here, and I don't understand why you minimize THAT.
No comparison. Ann Coulter is not the president.
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This is from the beginning an idiotic comparison
how to behave toward a husband who is going to kill his wife.
Who, for heaven's sake, comes up with such weird comparisons, when we are talking about prisoners in Gitmo?
Can you people not stay on one issue without losing the focus?
HAHAHAHA - loved it!!!!
exactly where is it that i said i loved hillary?
'bout time, too.
I loved your post
I don't want anyone taking my money or my DH's money that we have worked hard for and giving it to someone who sits around all day waiting for the mailman to bring them a check. You certainly don't hear much about welfare reform anymore. Just about how every one needs to be treated the same.
That's okay, I'm sure O has a pill for her....he loved
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I loved reading that
I still don't understand why Obama singled out Pennsylvanians with those statements. Does anybody know why who follows this stuff "religiously" (dare I use the word)?
I loved this.....thanks for the laugh....sm
Do you suppose it would really work for any of us in this day and age????.........lolol.........
Loved the quotes
I love history (love the history channel when they have specials on historical figures) and reading about the great men who worked hard to make this country free. These are all great quotes. Unfortunately in today's day and age there are so many lawyers they have turned everything around and they are destroying (or trying to destroy) what the country was founded on and make it into what they want it to be today, and too many people just don't care about the men in our history (just don't take away their American Idol and Survivor shows. HA HA)
It is so insulting that people are trying to destroy what made this country great and free!
I also saw your message above about the thanks for defending the country. I came from a family of military people (dad and grandpa in navy, uncle in marines, another uncle in the air force, and his son (my cousin) in the marines). I believed in our country (Reagan was president) and still do. I am a patriot to the country - not to a person. If I didn't like our country I would leave and move to another country, but I happen to like this one and it has nothing to do with who the president is. If McCain had been elected I wouldn't love the country any less.
But I do love Jefferson, Adams, Washington, Franklin and all those other great men who fought and risked everything. They had such wisdom, knowledge, and courage. And now look at the modern day politicians. I'm sure the founding fathers are turning over right now.
I loved and supported
my sister through surgery. It didn't mean we were married. You can love and support anyone. It doesn't make a marriage. A man and a woman who love and support each other and have sexual intercourse to try and conceive or not is what makes a marriage. It's a simple concept that has worked over the centuries and it will continue regardless of homo judges and whining, crying abnormal mental cases who are confused about their sexuality.
Pales in comparison to the hurtful posts
Why do you think you were under such attack yesterday?
What a stupid comparison. Anyone with minimal intelligence...sm
could not say they think SP would make a competent president. Get a grip!
I saw the same thing with Obama, comparison to Hitler
So playing that ole race card again does no good.
just to say loved your reply...GREAT!
Believe it or not some people who have lost loved ones
do feel that the losses were worth it. I know it's hard to fathom. I know their grief has got to be almost unbearable, but they, like their loved ones who enlisted knew what the consequences of signing up for military service might be. How do you explain those who enlisted right after 9/11 and are enlisting even now? A personal friend of mine is leaving for Marine boot camp in two weeks. Something beyond human reasoning compelled them to enlist. It's called patriotism and the willingness to defend the freedom this country was founded on and spread that freedom throughout the world.
Loved this post! Couldn't have said it better
What a great post. Wish I could write so well.
Thank you for this post - loved it and to the point.
As a Deist myself I find you are right on!
I am so tired of arguing with the closed minded religious nutbags (my sister who newly turned mormon is the worst to talk to - she is so closed minded). The christians always have an answer for everything and they won't listen to the truth.
They also haven't researched who our founding fathers were and what they went through because of what they believed. I think Thomas Paine probably got it the worst. They were the most brilliant men in our history and I'm sure they are rolling over in their grave everytime they hear someone saying our founding fathers were christians or the country was founded on Christianity. Reminds me of when I was watching the O'Reilly factor (who is catholic) and he was trying to tell some Jewish guy that Catholics invented marriage. Luckily the Jewish guest called him on it.
You are absolutely right on - they were NOT christians. They were Deists. Beleiving in a creator does not make one a christian.
Thanks for the post!
I loved him in Young Riders
He's a good actor (he can play some real creepy characters). Not sure about his political viewpoints because I'm not very conservative.
loved it!!! how glorious -- she adores him
it was truly magical -- made me cry... so full of hope and happiness right now. proud to be an American...IMHO
How Palin pales in comparison to Teddy Roosevelt.
Let's start by describing Roosevelt's accomplishments by age 42:
1. Graduated Phi Beta Kappa from Harvard in 1880, 22nd out of 177, after which he enrolled in Columbia Law School. He was reputed to have a photographic memory.
2. New York Assemblyman 1881, where he served for 3 years, distinguishing himself as an ardent reformer. Wrote more bills than any other state legislator.
3. At age 23, published his first book, The Naval War of 1812, establishing him as a respected author. He would go on to pen 35 books, 4 of which were written before age 42, including an exhaustive 4-volume historical account of westward expansion.
4. Appointed by President Harrison to Civil Service Commission (age 31), later to become its president, 1889-1895.
5. Director of NY Police Department, 1894-1897.
6. Assistant Secretary of the Navy under President McKinnley, 1897 in preparation for the Cuban War.
7. Went to Cuba as lieutenant colonel of a volunteer cavalry where he became famous as the leader of the Rough Riders, returning as a Spanish-American War hero.
8. Governor of State of New York, 1898, which was not avast wilderness, even at the tturn of the century.
9. Vice President, 1900.
10. Succeeded to presidency after McKinley assassination.
More striking differences become apparent when examining what KIND of republican reformer he was:
1. He was a PROGRESSIVE reformer in regard to workers' rights and ordinary citizen in general.
2. He distrusted wealthy businessmen and dissolved 44 corporate monopolies....can you say trust busting regulation? Was never accused of being a SOCIALIST. We could use a healthy dose of a modern version of that traditional American approach in the 21st century.
3. Square Deal advocated FAIR negotiations between workers and business/industry and REGULATION of interstate commerce.
4. First US President to call for UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE and NATIONAL HEALTH INSURANCE. Nope, he was not a communist either.
5. Promoted conservation movement and not once tried to block endangered species designation.
6. Sought judicial reform with regard to their bias against labor unions (gasp).
7. Fractured republican party via Bull Moose party to the point that democrat Woodrow Wilson won the presidency in 1912.
8. Nobel Peace Prize recipient 1906.
When attempting to compare Palin to a great American leader, you might want to choose someone a tad less like Obama next time.
Loved the article. I had made some of the same predictions he did! nm
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Loved your post farther down on the board...
....the post about religions, etc. It's what I'd been thinking but much more eloquent and better researched.
Actually I think Queen Elizabeth loved the Corgis...
and Princess Anne loved the horses. However...I don't believe Princess Anne barrel raced and my Corgis are not nearly as fat as the Queen's. lol. No royalty here.
Have a good evening as well.
Loved the "TV guide" version
Thanks for the countdown to Hillary's speech. Put some comedy into this which is what is needed. I also loved the other post that said a whole Xanax affords you a 2-hour nap. I'm gonna have to get me some of that.
I have learned a few things during this "race". Hillary is driven by power and greed and she won't stop at anything. I've never liked her. Well actually I used to like her when she and Bill were campaigning before he was elected the first time, and I liked her for about a month after she became first lady. Then her true self started to come out and DH and I would be mystified saying, wait a minute...this is not the same lady. I also heard that whenever they hosted dinners at the white house they would tell everyone to be there at a certain time and then they would purposely wait one hour and have everyone gather at the bottom of the steps so they could make their grand entrance for everyone to watch. They seemed to forget they were living in America and the were the president and first lady, not living in England being the King and Queen. So looks like her attitude hasn't changed much. Hillary has always been after uniting the world into a one-world government (or at least Mexico, US & Canada being one country) with her being the leader. Nothing less. I never expected her to end her campaign. After all you never know when such tragedy will hit and she needs to be standing there ready to sleeze in. In the beginning I listened to her because I wanted to know what her plans were if she were to be elected, and it seemed to be more of the same socialist programs she has been trying to pass since being first lady. So I have learned the best way to avoid the stress of listening to her drone on is to hit the mute button as soon as her face "graces" my TV. Now I'm pretty good and can usually hit the channel changer first before a sound from her is even uttered.
Anyway...loved your post. and yes, grilled peach salad doesn't sound too good.
Loved it!!!!- great way to start the day - with a laugh. (nm)
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I thought you loved to argue daggummit?!
Well like I said I understand not wanting to vote for Mccain. I really don't either. I just can't in good conscience vote for Obama. Like I said I have to look at the issues from a Christian point of view before I look at them from any other view. Mccain is not the epitome of a Christian candidate, but to measure him against Obama he is more so than Obama. Or at least he will hold closer to the laws of God than Obama.
I know Obama says he is a Christian, but you will know a Christian by the fruit he bares. I'm not liking his fruit. :)
Lesser of two evils unfortunately.
Loved it when Biden called Obama
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