Keep it about the politics. Argue, fight it out...
Posted By: Javabean on 2008-10-26
In Reply to: MTs and Politics - Stardust
disagree, agree, whatever. It's not a personal bash board to personally attack and insult other posters though.
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She was in state politics at the time, not national politics......
how much foreign policy experience did Bill have when he went to the presidency having only been a governor? The same as Sarah Palin. Because he was concentrating on his job...the state of Arkansas (and Paula Jones and what was that stripper's name?). Sarah Palin was concentrating on the state of Alaska.
Good grief. lol. Why don't you poll all the governors in all the states in the union and ask them how much they think about foreign policy?
Then they should be willing to fight...sm
if it is democracy they want. After all, that's their fight not ours.
ooh cat fight
compassionate hippie cat fight!!! I've got so much patchouli on that you couldn't stand to get near me anyway.
See? there you go again, trying to fight
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Your guy is still going to fight the war...
in Afghanistan and is backing off a bit on his timetable for Iraq...but as long as it his HIS idea to fight, its okay?
Why don't you do a little bit of research on Obama, and not close your eyes to the numerous skeletons in HIS closet? Only one guy talking about cleaning up washington, both parties. Only one guy talking about cutting spending. That is the guy I am voting for.
Looking at the shape this country is in right now, looking at what Obama says he is going to do (STILL) when he knows there is no money to do it with...the Dems on the banking comittee and the ones getting rich while our economy was going down the tubes...you on the left have such a problem with the "rich" but Franklin Raines, Timothy Howard, James Johnson...ALL advising Obama...got RICH dragging Fannie Mae to the ground and all of us with them...and Obama the MOST liberal senator in his voting record...that isn't CHANGE. That is the same old Washington politics.
You really can't see that? Really?
GO FIGHT WIN
MCCAIN!!!!!
Do I want to fight?
Oh yes, I want to have an email war! Lets go, first one to type the dirtiest word wins!
Sheesh. Does your mommy know you are on here?
But seriously, get help.
Sometimes it is necessary to fight, whether we want to or not...
not one service member wants to be in Iraq, but they ARE doing good things over there. Unfortunately, our media is so biased that we rarely see the good that comes of our efforts. I do not believe that the war is senseless and it is not because I "have to believe" any such thing. It is because someone needed to stop Hussein before he became another Hitler. He was well on his way. Also, by fighting a little on other soil, I believe that we keep it from happening on ours and, unfortunately, our general populous doesn't have what it takes to defend their own way of life. Someone else has to do it for them.
We can argue this....
until the cows come homes, but how can you explain the fact that the tax cuts have produced HIGHER TAX REVENUES THAN AT ANY TIME DURING THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION, EVEN WITH HIS TAX HIKES?
Yes, the rich get the bulk of tax cuts, that's because THEY pay most of the taxes. They also pay them at a higher rate. And lest we forget the millions who dropped OFF the tax rolls after the Bush tax cuts.
Who am I to argue
I guess they could get a million African-Americans to say he was not a racist, but as long as you say so, it must be true.
One could argue that.
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Oh, please. Why argue about
how something might not be true because someone with a beef against Bush said it? Sure, take it into consideration but then go find out the truth! You seem to imply that people must be lying about anything they say if they don't like Bush. Where did you get such a notion, if you really have it?
Newsflash! - People can disagree with Bush policies and still be telling the truth! But ultimately it's up to YOU to judge the truth of any claim from EITHER side - and using a measure of who likes him and who doesn't like him to decide what truth is, is not going to cut it for whoever thinks that's going to work.
I'd like to see someone argue with this.
The next to the last paragraph was the most telling. I wonder if this prediction will come true before the end of 2006 (after the elections, of course).
Dr. Charles finally goes to bed after this, his first bit of Google-cut-and-paste-environmental-journalism, fully expecting but hoping not to wake up in a world in which gas costs $10/gallon and we're at war with Iran.
No, I am not going to argue with you...
I wanted to know your reasoning and now I know it. Thank you for your honesty!
you can't argue with
the True Believers of JM/SP. There is no fact or situation that would deter them from their dogged quest to drag the country to even lower depths.
Can't argue with that...how else will they ever
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Sam, you just want to argue -
You know that if you don't pay taxes you cannot get a tax cut - you know what he means when he says 95% of Americans. You are just trying to blow smoke so that people who read what you say and nothing else will vote your way and think Obama is just this horrible person who is going to take all their money and give it to those scumbags who don't do nothing...
Nothing anybody say is going to satisfy you - you are just going to keep going in circles...
we understand that you do not like Obama, but you don't have to just deliberately act dumb because it is obvious you are not dumb!
There is no way I will argue with
on high with this breakdown of her most despised party's ideology. I am just a meager 4-decade party member in need of enlightenment on my own party's platforms.
But I will say this much. Within his own party establishment, Rahm Emanuel is NOT considered to be in ranks of the left or progressives. One only has to tune in to Pacifica and listen to Amy Goodman tear him inside out to understand this particular concept. That discussion will be aired on Democracy Now! if anyone out there is interested in such analysis. But then again, none of us could possibly know as much as Sam does about this pick.
The examples of his support for the war and his pro-Israel stance are diametrically opposed to left-wing views. Since I am not in the habit of researching right-wing blogs for my education, I am also not qualified to comment on the rest of this propaganda. Take it away, Sam. That's your territory, not mine.
My OP would argue otherwise.
RE: Smoke and mirrors. I never said I disbelieved the report. I simply decided to research it for myself and draw my own conclusions, based on the facts at hand, not some incoherent and not terribly credible right-wing rant. You might try it sometime. You know what they say. It's not the destination, but the journey.
exactly, how can they argue this... SERIOUSLY
Ghostmom... how highly observant of you, why didn't anyone think of that before...
I just dont know how they will respond to you and spin it. or they wont respond because they can't defend it...
exactly, how can they argue this...
Ghostmom... how highly observant of you, why didn't anyone think of that before...
I just dont know how they will respond to you and spin it. or they wont respond because they can't defend it...
I am not asking to argue, but who is sm
it that you claim to be "your god?" Why would you not want to "share your faith" if you have faith and know you are going to heaven.
I don't know why you would choose this fight anyway...sm
Bennetts words are right there for all to see/hear. This came out of his mouth, you can't make this stuff up.
If you can't see any wrong, hate, inappropriateness in what he said then that's on you.
Well....we know they have no stomach for the fight. ;-) (nm)
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Thank you for your post.....some of us do fight
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She's willing to fight for the blob....(sm)
but not the turkey!! The voice of the turkey will be heard!!!! LOL.
P.S. I hope you fight to the end.
There should be no way you should take a smaller amount if he was insured for a certain amount.
I am too tired to argue it. sm
You win everything! Whatever that is. Besides, it's all silly compared to what really matters in the world. Have a good one!
I cannot argue with someone who thinks as you do.
You decry killing of innocent civilians when they are Muslim only. Israeli have lived with killings for decades. Where was your pain then?
I won't argue that point! nm
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I hate to argue, especially when
I know from the outset it will make no difference. Life is too short and my time is too valuable.
I won't be voting early, but I will be voting. That's one for me and one for you. No need to argue. The votes will all be counted and we will see what happens.
If you hate to argue
then why are you doing it? LOL
Okay, you obviously just want to argue in circles here.
Calling someone self righteous and conservative like it's a bad thing is being judgmental and therefore hypocritical.
I'm sorry I wasted my time.
hmm...no you win....lets argue about that instead. nm
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Pointless to argue....maybe but
we sat idley by while Madelyn Murray O'Hair trampled our "pearls".
not even gonna argue
i KNOW i have way more on you
But I would really like you to point out how i have spewed hatred in a racism form? That offends me like nothing else and I think you should apologize. You can flame me for politics or whatever else, but to call me racist is the most vile disgusting inappropriate thing to say to someone like me, you dont know my past or my present and you have no idea what that could mean to someone like me so why dont you take it upon yourself to apologize for that nasty comment about me being racist. That is shameful and hurtful.
not that i really expect people like you to care.
And on a side note, my man knows everything about me!
Well I'm not in the mood to argue but
all I know (so far) is half the cost to help homeowners and create jobs like the dems package... In fact, I believe it almost had the same things EXCEPT the crappy projects that do nothing to create a healthy economy and put people back to work, keep them in their home, allow permanent tax cuts to you and me, not just businesses, but you and me. He wanted 5% off the top for us.
We have the highest business tax in the world and that is one of the reasons companies moved their businesses out of here. McCain did want to cut the business tax when he was running, but people didn't see how that would help. It would have kept more businesses from moving out and hopefully, get some businesses to come back. Opps, sorry. That last statement about the businesses moving back is wrong. They use slave labor to get their products out and wouldn't want to come back and pay Americans a decent wage to produce their products because they want to keep the profits for themselves.
You have your opinion and I have mine. I think McC's package would have been better.
I still don't want to spend $88 million to move the one branch of government into another building. I still don't want to spend millions on youth summer jobs (up to the age of 24 BTW). I dont' want to spend millions on renovating the government buildings. Even though the dems are thinking more on the lines of energy efficiency for these buildings (which is a good idea), THESE ITEMS DO NOT BELONG IN A STIMULUS PACKAGE TO HELP US OR THE ECONOMY. They only help certain areas of the country, not the whole country.
No, I don't argue much. I discuss or
post articles I think would be interesting to people on this board. I try not to tear down the people who post, either, not like some on this board. They have their opinion, I have mine.
No, I don't argue much. I discuss or
post articles I think would be interesting to people on this board. I try not to tear down the people who post, either, not like some on this board. They have their opinion, I have mine.
Your idea of a reply very often isn't up for discussion. You seem to think it's the only one that matters. End of discussion.
I will not sit and argue wtih you. Too sm
many folks just like you have tried to wipe Christianity out of this country.
Go to Washington DC, look on the many government buildings there and you will find references to God even carved into the bulidings themselves. The godless people of this country have tried to have it removed from our money, that they can do but what are they going to do with the buildings? Build new ones.
This country was founded as a Christian nation and people like you and the rest of the god-forsaking crowd are just trying to rewrite history to suit yourselves.
I believe God himself is fed up with this country and is gradually lifting his hand of protection off of this country. I feel bad for you and folks like you because you don't even know the seriousness of the things that you spout.
I will not sit and argue wtih you. Too sm
many folks just like you have tried to wipe Christianity out of this country.
Go to Washington DC, look on the many government buildings there and you will find references to God even carved into the bulidings themselves. The godless people of this country have tried to have it removed from our money, that they can do but what are they going to do with the buildings? Build new ones.
This country was founded as a Christian nation and people like you and the rest of the god-forsaking crowd are just trying to rewrite history to suit yourselves.
I believe God himself is fed up with this country and is gradually lifting his hand of protection off of this country. I feel bad for you and folks like you because you don't even know the seriousness of the things that you spout.
Not to get a fight started...just an observation...
that little twinge is probably be the Holy Spirit and you would be well served to maybe listen to it....? Or perhaps you think not listening to the twinge in favor of listening to John Edwards is the better path.
God bless!
One more question...and I am NOT trying to start a fight....
just curious as to what you mean by "extremely conservative viewpoint?" Could you give examples? I won't even respond if you do not want me to...I just want to know what you consider an extremely conservative viewpoint.
Thanks!
why did you even bring this up - looks like you are trying to start a fight
Everytime a subject is brought out you seem to like to interject a bash to Sam. I've been reading the posts and nowhere in response to my post here did I see sam post a "message with the express intent of wreaking havoc and instigating argument". I'm reading the responses to my post about issues and I'm not seeing one from sam called "let the games begin", so I have no idea what you are talking about. If your talking about another post awhile back, then start a new thread, but for Pete's sake don't drag it into mine. Forget sam - it looks like you are the one who is trying to start arguments. Leave your personal hatred out of this and be an adult for once. Posts like this I would expect from my 12 year old, but we are adults here. What's frustrating is to finally start reading about a lot of issues that both sides would like to know about and info they are sharing with us and then all of a sudden - bam, here comes your post bashing sam. I'm sitting here now looking at all the responses to my post and I'm not seeing the one you are talking about. Lets stick to issues and facts. It also sounds like some other posters want that too.
No fight. Just looking for space and issues.
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I still vote for a jello fight
I mean since that's about how silly these campaigns have gotten :)
But seriously, why waste this much money on campaigning from either side? I admit it was just a bit of a pot shot at Obama (sorry!) but Mccain could do it too.
Then again our nation pays celebrities and professional athletes millions and teachers and police/fire/EMS etc make barely above minimum wage...
No wonder we are going down the crapper! Where are our priorities? When it's more important to see Lindsey Lohan's tadadada instead of paying teachers decent money to teach "our future".
*sigh* Maybe I'll go to Australia. I don't ever hear anything about Australians, 'cept for barbies and kangaroos and Steve Irwin (God rest his soul!). :-D
Not picking a fight, truly curious
As a nonbeliever what do you think it is that makes you feel good inside when you do something good? I don't know much about atheists, always thought there wasn't much to know, except they don't believe in God and so I would assume when they die they believe that everything stops right there. I feel that there has to be a better life in the world to come so I am asking a sincere question which is thought provoking at least to me. If a loved one dies, how do you deal with it? What happens to them. When you die what happens to you?
Not picking a fight, truly curious
As a nonbeliever what do you think it is that makes you feel good inside when you do something good? I don't know much about atheists, always thought there wasn't much to know, except they don't believe in God and so I would assume when they die they believe that everything stops right there. I feel that there has to be a better life in the world to come so I am asking a sincere question which is thought provoking at least to me. If a loved one dies, how do you deal with it? What happens to them. When you die what happens to you?
At least Obama knows WHICH COUNTRY the fight is with
Not Iraq, since he doesn't have a Daddy that he has to clean up after, he can just go to the right country immediately and bypass the special agenda that fueled the last guy!
The opposition is going to fight the other side...
no matter who it is. George Washington was the only president that did not face opposition to his being the president - at least for the first term. Mind you, he was not elected to his first term and after his first four years when he was asked to serve another four, he was beaten down from both sides so much so that he swore he would never enter into politics again. This is the father of our country - the man who helped win our freedom from England! If he can't escape from being shot down at every turn, what makes anyone else who runs for president think they can? It's the nature of the beast and comes with the job.
What's the old saying? You can make some of the people happy some of the time, but you can't make all of the people happy all of the time.
You would pick a fight with anyone, wouldnt you?
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