Just goes to show everyone doesn't become wise with age. nm
Posted By: Common sense at all? on 2008-10-15
In Reply to: You're rambling incoherently again. - I certainly do not need tax education...sm
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I didn't see the show, but it doesn't
Extremists are all the same. Pope JPII was against the Iraq war and tried to persuade Bush not to go through with it.
Along the same lines, see this article from over the summer:
Adoption agency rejects Catholic parents
JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — A Christian adoption agency that receives money from Choose Life license plate fees said it does not place children with Roman Catholic couples because their religion conflicts with the agency's Statement of Faith.
Bethany Christian Services stated the policy in a letter to a Jackson couple this month, and another Mississippi couple said they were rejected for the same reason last year.
It has been our understanding that Catholicism does not agree with our Statement of Faith, Bethany's state director Karen Stewart wrote. Our practice to not accept applications from Catholics was an effort to be good stewards of an adoptive applicant's time, money and emotional energy.
Sandy and Robert Steadman, who learned of Bethany's decision in a July 8 letter, said their priest told them the faith statement did not conflict with Catholic teaching.
Loria Williams of nearby Ridgeland said she and her husband, Wes, had a similar experience when they started to pursue an adoption in September 2004.
I can't believe an agency that's nationwide would act like this, Loria Williams said. There was an agency who was Christian-based but wasn't willing to help people across the board.
Bethany, based in Grand Rapids, Mich., has 75 offices in 30 states, including three in Mississippi. The offices are independently incorporated and are affiliated with various religions, spokesman John VanValkenburg said from the agency headquarters. He couldn't say whether any were Catholic-affiliated. The Jackson office is affiliated with the Presbyterian Church of America, he said.
Glenn DeMots, president of Bethany, said on Friday that the policy is open to interpretation. He said the national office does not ban adoptions to Catholic families, but does allow each branch to establish rules for the placement of children based on the agency's Statement of Faith.
Stewart told the Jackson Clarion-Ledger that Bethany's board will review its policy, but she didn't specify which aspects will be addressed.
The agency's Web site says all Bethany staff and adoptive applicants personally agree with the faith statement, which describes belief in the Christian Church and the Scripture. It does not refer to any specific branches of Christianity.
As the Savior, Jesus takes away the sins of the world, the statement says in part. Jesus is the one in whom we are called to put our hope, our only hope for forgiveness of sin and for reconciliation with God and with one another.
Sandy Steadman said she was hurt and disappointed that Bethany received funds from the Choose Life car license plates. I know of a lot of Catholics who get those tags, she said.
She added: If it's OK to accept our money, it should be OK to open your home to us as a family.
Bethany is one of 24 adoption and pregnancy counseling centers in Mississippi that receives money from the sale of Choose Life tags, a special plate that motorists can obtain with an extra fee.
Of $244,000 generated by the sale of the tags in 2004, Bethany received $7,053, said Geraldine Gray, treasurer of Choose Life Mississippi, which distributes the money.
It is troubling to me if they are discriminating based on only the Catholics, Gray said.
The Bethany spokesman, VanValkenburg, said the offices in Mississippi do not receive any public money, but that some offices in other states do, for example, because they are involved in foster care.
Copyright 2005 The Associated Press.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-07-16-adopt-catholics_x.htm?csp=34
Yeah....this show dates us, doesn't it...sm
I was a junior in high school when it came out, and thought it was a riot. I don't watch at all either, though, stopped sometime early ྌs.
How time flies, doesn't it. I know I don't feel old, so why do the years reflect it?
Just goes to show the j@ckas@es/crooks running the show!
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Beck says - almost every show - that he is NOT doing a news show.
He does an opinion show - meaning HIS opinion. As such, he's entitled to stick pins in little Obama dolls for all I care.
I can hear Chris Wallace laughing at you folks from here because it's pretty obvious whoever wrote that knows zip about Beck, or Wallace for that matter. In fact, I can't think what Wallace has to do with Beck anyway. Everyone of INTELLIGENCE who watches Beck and Wallace is perfectly aware that one does one type of show and the other does another.
But what do you expect from one of George Soros' puppet sites like Media Matters and Move Bowels.org?
You really should delete your Favorites list and start over.
I think your dad is a wise man, thanks....sm
..and if something you really wish does not happen, then it just 'was not meant to be', often to one's rescue.
Your dad was a very wise man.
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He was wise enough to
accurately assess that the country was ready to elect an African-American president, run a clean campaign and win a healthy mandate without having to resort to dirty campaign tactics, tainted election antics or manipulated/thrown court decisions that left the legitimacy of his office in question for his entire term of service.
His cabinet appointments have been very well orchestrated and reflect stragegies W could never envision, especially the part about appointments of former opponents and assemblage of such diverse points of view.
Notice I am not speculating about the future, but the rest of the world is. Check out the link below. He not only has world leaders enthused, but has also won hearts and minds of across the planet. Wonder what W's global approval rating would be? Single digits to be sure.
I'd say O is off to a pretty good start. He will be dazzling us with his brilliance (especially vis-a vis his predecessor) in short order.
http://www.economist.com/Vote2008/
she isn't wise
sorry
Maybe it would be wise...
It would be wise to at least wait for the next election day before you start to crow.
You're a very wise person.
There is a definite tendency for some posters on these boards (not so much this one) to very negatively judge a post based on who posted instead of what was contained in the post. And you're right. That just detracts from the entire value of the post when they do that. (Anyone who doesn't believe me can visit the Conservative and see how they chew up and spit out those who don't assign nicknames to themselves.)
Thanks for posting and thanks for the link.
and this wise speech comes from a man
who admitted he's had too many wives, done too many drugs....and was happy to admit he inhaled.
Ahhh the credibility....
Wise Up and Get Real
I am without question loudly and proudly supporting Barack Obama. I am not supporting him because of the color of his skin, nor am I not supporting John McCain because of the color of his skin. I am supporting Barack Obama because he has inspired something in me. The belief and hope and optimism that there are actually people in politics who feel as I feel and will make a difference towards that end. The belief that people are people and that my neighbors next door and the people who live on the other side of town and the people who live in the next state and the people who live in the south and the people who live in the north all matter regardless of their ethnicities, regardless of their incomes, regardless of their education or lack thereof, regardless of whatever circumstances they have been born into. We are all Americans and we all deserve a chance to be educated, a chance to have healthcare, a chance to have hopes and dreams, and the opportunity to work for those hopes and dreams.
John McCain is not going to provide any of that, least of all hope. It is actually scary that the people who are so dead-set against supporting Barack Obama are the people who would reap so much of the benefits of his presidency. And I wonder why you don't support him? Gee, that is such a mystery! Yet you all go on about McCain picking a woman as his VP. Big deal! A woman or man can do the same job, but if you were smart you would realize it is about the right person and gender has nothing to do with smarts, compassion, fairness, hope, inclusion, and inspiration.
Wake up or you people are going to be in the same situation 4 years from now that you are in now. After all, how smart can you be if you voted for Bush over Gore. And better yet, how smart can you be if you gave Bush another 4 years and actually believed the lies about Kerry. My conscious is clear, I didn't vote for Bush. I voted for Gore and I certainly voted for Kerry after the first horrific 4 years. Please educate yourself and wise up. Fear is the reason Bush is president. Let go of it and make better decisions.
And if you are wondering who I am, I will be happy to tell you. I have been an MT for 5 years. I am a single parent. I own my own home and purchased it myself. I have 1 son. I homeschool him and he is above grade level in all subjects. I also happen to be African American and my son is of mixed race, as his biological father is Caucasian. I state these facts loudly and proudly just as I loudly and proudly support Barack Obama the best person for the most important job in the world.
Very wise words.
There's hope for the younger generation yet!!
Words from the wise
Everyone loves Bill Clinton. Every single democrat (well almost every single) democrat will praise Bill Clinton up and down. Even D. Morris referred to him in an interview as being "the most brilliant man" (we about threw up, but we repect Morris' opinion). He's always talked about with admiration by a great many and everything he says is true (according to a lot of the liberals). So...here are words from the wise one.
(In an interview about Obama)
"When was the last time we elected a President based on one year of service in the senate before he started running. He will have been a senator longer by the time if he's innaugerated. But essentially once you start running for President full time you don't have time to do much else"
This is so so true. How can anyone elect a person with only one year's time in Washington with no experience. Forget who he is, who he's related to, who he associated with, and even forget the whole non-US citizen thing.
Experience. That is what we need! Not a bunch of "feel good" statements to make you believe he cares about you.
I read an article that said the most rediculous campaign slogan is "Change". Change into what? Change into socialism? "Change For The Worse" is a better slogan.
"Hope". There's another one. Hope? Hope for what? Hope they don't see what I'm really about before I can mesmerize them and thell them I feel their pain and will solve all their problems. "Hopelessness" is a better slogan.
Then his talks about changing the world? Excuse me...we're voting for US president. Not Global/Worldwide president. You only have 1 year in the senate and now you think your qualified to change the whole world. Oh yeah, I'm sure the other countries are really going to love us with that one. They're already pretty "tanked up" that Bush is trying to change their government into the same kind we have. Sure Obama you'll go over really well. It doesn't surprise me though because the same people who financed Bush are financing Obama.
Sorry, I'm looking for
1. Someone with more years experience in Washington.
2. I'm looking for someone who is prior military and who understands and values our troops. Who will be able to end the war in victory and bring our troops safely home. Someone who will not vote against a bill that will provide the funding needed to keep our troops safe. Obama's plan doesn't tell you there will be a mass exodus to dupe everyone into believing he cares about our troops, but he'll turn right around and send them to other countries equally as dangerous, or what is worse, back to the same area but now the fighting will be worse. He doesn't care about our troops. He didn't even have the decency to go over there until forced into it. And even then he only went to places where there were photo ops for him.
3. I'm looking for someone who is going to fight for Americans (JM has and will).
4. I'm looking for someone whose running mate has more experience than the person running for President on the opposite side.
5. I'm looking for someone who knows how to rebuild America. Knows we can't just keep printing more and more money without anything to back it up. Common economics (guess O skipped that subject in college).
6. I'm looking for someoe who will not increase our taxes like Obama's plan will, all while sugar coating it and trying to convince us that it's good for us.
There are many many more reasons why I am for M/P over O/B, but those are just a few.
And....seeing as Bill Clinton is considered to be one of the most intelligent persons in American I will believe his words out of his own mouth.
Wise guys....
our founding fathers. The suggestion of separation of church and state is in the Constitution for a reason. This is not about accommodating the nonbelievers or any of your other extreme statements of protest.
Preserving religious traditions (especially Christmas) has a time and place...inside churches, in the privacy of our homes, in our faces at the malls, in restaurants, convenience stores, gas stations, smeared all over the landscape in parking lots, neighborhoods, etc.
My question to you is why is it some folks cannot tolerate religion-free zones? Injecting religous beliefs, symbols, etc can be an extremely divisive act, as we can see by your own post. Would you also mount such strong defenses, for example, on behalf of Moslem, Jewish and Buddhist invocations at the inauguration?
Many of us are sick and tired, just like you, but not for the same reason. I'm tired of having this stuff crammed down my throat and seeing it creep into the body of our laws.
Do you always get so hostile whenever somebody brings up one of the earliest and most Constitutionally protected traditions of our nation?
Your dad sounds like a wise man
and that might explain the enthusiasm of the OP (and my own). It reminds me of that novel from the 60s, Been Down So Long, It Looks Like Up To Me. The very fact that the W era will be a closed chapter FOREVER, and that we can FINALLY turn the page and come out into the light from the NeoCon nightmare is enough reason to party 'til the cows come home. I'll take "hard," even "worse," minus W with a smile on my face and another glass of Kool-Aid, please. Make mine sunny orange, please.
Well spoken, oh wise one.
I am proud to offer this suggestion to all of those who choose to ignore the fascism of the last 8 years and are frightened and terrified (and ignorant) of the idea of a black man in the White House: America, Love It Or Leave It! I have a few suggestions where you all can go, too!
Yes, I too have been worried about some sort of attempt on President Obama's life before we can be rid of the Bushies, leading to an attempt by them to hold onto power forever. However, I think they have screwed up the country so much that even THEY don't want it anymore.
Keith is great. The first of the mass media to speak up about the unconstitutional actions of the Bushies. Why was the rest of the media so frightened?
On a bright note, I suspect that Bush's appointment by the Supreme Court was our Thermopolis Pass moment in history: Bush's appointment led indirectly to the election of Obama, as the defeat of the Spartans at Thermopylae led to the rise of democracy in Greece, just as the rise of fascism in America has led to the resurgence of democracy in our great country.
Now, back to taunting Mr. 644 and the Evil Q! 
Because investors are getting wise to the whole
Count me OUT 4-ever.
Thanks, Sis! (Cheese it, though - someone might get wise.)
Tell Mom I'll be home for Mother's Day.
Gee, O's doing great $$ wise.
Besides his salary as President and his expense account, he made over $2 million on his book sales so far. Maybe he will share the wealth? NOT!. The rules for the little people don't pertain to him.
Very wise post - you are right on with how I feel
And so many of us out there. His calming demeanor...yes most definitely. He has a soothing and reassuring voice. If I was in an accident or something like that his voice would be very reassuring and calming, but everything else I agree with you.
I loved your post. Thanks.
It is wise to broaden one's mind..... sm
but not to the point that one's brains fall out.
I was not attempting to retract a statement, unsuccessfully or otherwise. I was illustrating the point that the statement needed to be taken in context.
Cyndiee, you are a very wise woman.
I have been reading your posts here and on the Faith board, and I must say that you are a breath of fresh air. My hat is off to you!
That's a very wise place to get facts.
A spot called Killfile? They are blogs from people, not news reports. One-sided views just like everyone on this board complains about. I followed the link and it went to "outtheotherear". Another blog. Checked out the 3 writers. They really caught my eye:
Longing good candy, cool toys and up to date television, Mike and his family came back to Lockport in 1999. There he attended high school and reacquainted himself with the American Way. A “conspiracy theorist” teacher at Lockport High introduced him to politics and suggested that China might become important someday in the near future; he has been hooked on both subjects ever since.
Mike recently graduated from SUNY Geneseo with a BA in International Relations and minors in Asian Studies and History. In place of playing make-believe with Model United Nations and organizing with Democracy Matters, he now spends his free time blogging and looking for the next step in life. He spent the summer and fall working as an organizing fellow and Field Organizer for the Obama campaign in Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Marc is very passionate about environmental, media, rural issues and issues of rural culture. He also feels it is his duty to keep other blogs held accountable. While he’s probably doing it a service in terms of credibility, his continual attacks will probably not leave him loved in the blogosphere.
Kate was born and raised in a dying industrial town in Upstate New York, an area she sees as a microcosm for a majority of America’s many detriments and successes. After earning a degree in History and American Studies, concentrating on Environmental and Native American History, she decided to try out state politics. Hating office work with every fiber of her being, she went back to school and is currently a graduate student, studying for her Master’s in Journalism and is the web Editor for Jerk Magazine, an independent Syracuse University student-run publication. She writes mainly about the inadequacy of mainstream media reporting.
I think you should stop flooding this board with blogs. They are one person opinions.
Words of the wise from one of the greatest men in history
I wish more people were interested in all that our founding fathers did for us.
Also: Penny wise and pound foolish?
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Also: Penny wise and pound foolish?
What good to reduce out carbon footprint when China and India won't, and if it bankrupts our whole nation?
Saw the show. It was a guest on the show....
not a commentator. Why don't you post the link to the clip so everyone can decide?
Show me who your friends are and I’ll show you who you are.’
This subject is not old, and is very, very relevant.
Obama's friends/associates (supposedly former friends and associates, only since this campaign):
Ayers
Wright
Dorhn
Michelle
Khalidi
The company he keeps:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YThjYTU1ZDBjNmQ2YzcwNzU1MmYwN2JiMWY0ZGI0NDA=
I find it very, very troubling, that this man has no visible friends, other than the ones above (not Michelle, although she has been kept under lock and key out of public sight for some time now, so as to keep her from embarrassing herself again).
Does this man not have any other friends/associates, other than the ones above?
the scorn of a fool is music to the ears of a wise man.
vive la Israel!
Wise choice on your part - and poor judgement on O's! nm
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Ayers doesn't regret the bombings, doesn't feel like they did enough sm
In a story that appeared in the Times on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, Ayers told a reporter while promoting his memoir "Fugitive Days": "I don't regret setting bombs...I feel we didn't do enough."
Mr. Ayers, now a professor of education in Chicago, was a founder of the Weather Underground, which bombed government buildings in the early 1970s. He was indicted on conspiracy charges that were thrown out for prosecutorial misconduct.
He served with Mr. Obama on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago, a charitable organization, and, along with his wife, the former Weather Underground member Bernardine Dohrn, hosted Mr. Obama at his home in 1995 when he was running for state office.
Mr. Obama has called Mr. Ayers "somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old."...so because it was 40 years ago, and Ayers is still proud of what he did, how is it justifiable for a US presidential candidate to now be friends with this man? Unless he has the same view of America.
Just trying to be logical, but I doubt security wise that would be a good idea.
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He got a look when Biden was making wise cracks about Justice Roberts at the swearing in. sm
I think when he is under stress he has a hard time hiding how he feels, but I think it is more a sign that he is honest about his feelings, not that he is going to act out in some crazy way.
Let me rephrase that. It doesn't *seem like* my vote doesn't count...sm
It does not count because its in the bag that our 3 electoral votes will go to the republican party.
O was wise ... wait... wait... I'm rolling in the aisle.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Osamabama 'distances' himself from every lame association he ever had with his rat pack of radical nut job friends.
And if he's lucky enough to get elected, he's going to distance himself from his fawning flock as soon as his advisors tell him there's no way in hades to pay for his free po'folk tax cuts he promised without throwing the economy into the tank.
I know most of it's for show
But how does she get on TV saying things like she did about Jewish people? How does she sleep at night after saying something like that? She just gets more and more outrageous just to get a reaction - and yeah sometimes it works because what she says is hateful. I have no problem with anyone giving their views, but she's hateful about it and that is what I have a problem with (and no, as I've said before I don't condone hateful things on either board)
goes to show
even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
Just goes to show you that you need to ...sm
have an inquiring mind and not take as gospel what is spoon fed to you by either party. I particularly like the "fact checks" on both party's candidates. The perception is that we American voters are fools and will believe anything we are told.
Show me a pic
I can't find a pic with a lump on his jaw.
show me
show me refusal to acknowedge - I haven't seen it.
Goes to show you - sm
McCain is concerned about the people. Obama is concerned about himself.
McCain was absolutely right on the spot when he said there needs to be an investigation, just as there was when 9-11 happened, we need one now for this crisis.
One more plus to show McCain is interested and will work for us, while Obama....well Obama is for Obama.
Once again....goes to show
how people who get their tail feathers all ruffled after someone personally attacks an Obama supporter on the board, but they have no problem calling McCain supporters names and personally attacking them by stating they lack intelligence.
Look in the mirror....your hypocracy is showing.
Don't believe it. Show me. nm
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You show me anywhere where he said...
95% of American workers WHO PAY TAXES. SHOW me where it says that. But, supposing that is what he means...there are still that 30-40%. Those people pay taxes. Then they get deductions and credits. They get back every dime they paid in and THEN some. They are part of that 95% who "pay taxes." Got it? And about 30-40% of the working public fall into that category. so it is back to square one. Yes, they "pay taxes." Taxes are deducted. Then they file. They get the deductions and the credits and whatever (I am talking about NOW). They get back every dime they paid in. These people technically "pay taxes." If you work one day a year and have deductions, you "pay taxes" and will be included.
I understand that you don't see it. I understand that you are filling in the blanks that he left open. I don't see it the way you see it. He is counting on people seeing it the way you see it. So be it.
YOu can yell BOGUS until you are blue in the face. I will yell NAIVE just as loud.
"He is assuming it is understood." Well, he is hoping that everyone will understand it the way YOU understand it. I am not so enamored of him that I cannot read between the lines. And frankly, as BOGUS as my line of thinking appears to me, YOURS is naive at best. So we will agree to disagree. If he went on television and told you tomorrow that he was going to cut checks to people who don't pay taxes because it is the right thing to do, you would be on this board defending the decision tomorrow night.
You show me where he says it is not.
You assume it is not. I assume that it will be. Based on everything his history is, based on everything he has said, including starting at the BOTTOM. Just where do you think Mr Obama perceives the bottom to be? What is your assumption on that?
Please show me where....(sm)
Obama has said that he will "give to those who would not [work]." And by the way, does that include Social Security?
OK show me
Where does it say the Secret Service blames McCain/Palin?
There were people who spoke about potential threats to Obama before he even became the Democratic candidate. To act now like it's all because of McCain and Palin stirring them up is ludicrous.
Bigotry is out there. Or do you honestly believe no one would have noticed that Obama is an African-American?
I don't like her either, but she has every right to be on the show
I don't like Ann Coulter at all. I think she's obnoxious and arrogant. But then again I don't like the View. I think it's filled with old "has been" housewives and mothers who just sit and gab and give their opinion and put down anyone who doesn't agree with them (i.e. anyone who is not a liberal). I watched the View a couple times and there was nothing interesting or entertaining about it. If they don't like a guest they won't even look at them (Joy Bear (or however you spell her last name) is such a pig! - I can explain and prove that in another post if anyone is interested). Anyway...for anyone to come out and say there is no reason to have someone (no matter who it is) on their show is a bit Nazi-ism. Who are you to say who they should have on and who they shouldn't. Her opinion of Barbara Walters is just that, her opinion. I didn't see the show, but when she said that I'm sure she was jumped on by the others. None of them can stand any person who is not a liberal and they try (and I use the word loosely), try to ridicule them. Luckily it doesn't work. From my understanding of what I've read on this board and elsewhere is that Ann Coulter says things to inflame others. She says things for what they call "shock value". I'm sure Barbara Walters is a big girl (I like Barbara Walters - just can't stand the others on the show), but Barbara is a big girl and can stand up for herself. She's smart and a quick thinker so I'm sure she had an intelligent comeback. But as for Ann Coulter saying things, that's just the way she is and they all know that and knew well before hand that she would most likely do that. Besides they do have a script they follow to some degree with questions prepared ahead of time and what they say and how they plan to cut down a non-liberal.
But for you to come out and say there is no reason to have such a person featured on TV? That is a bit too Nazi-ism for me. Everybody deserves to go on whatever show they want to. Her views have no value? According to you and other liberals they may not, but there are others who like her and would like to hear her interviewed. And certainly the View wanted her on the show otherwise she would have not been there.
I'm just glad your not in charge of who is allowed to go on what shows, or what books we can read (burn all those you don't agree with) - sound familiar?
Just goes to show ya
Fringers can't recognize a clean election when they see one and don't have a clue what the word "mandate" means. Uninformed? You seem to have cornered the market on that one.
same old show
Don't fret.
We get the same old show no matter what party is in office. It is a continual ball game with Republocrats versus the Democans. It keeps the American sheeple amused, cheering and fighting for its favorite team while the big boys play games with the global elite, keeping the spectators slaves to their greedy ideas. Been watching this show too long.......
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