It isn't fair to pick out a few bad apples...
Posted By: Zauber on 2005-10-09
In Reply to: Actually I agree with you. - Zauber
...and characterize a whole group based on them. And you're also right about Conservatives (loosely put) not always agreeing with one another, especially these days. Seems dissent among the ranks is breaking wide open.
But regardless of degree of badness of the apples in general - any group as a whole who supports Bush remains suspect as a whole because there is simply no reason left for an intelligent person to do so. Most who still do, do so because they aren't aware of the facts and aren't very good judges of character. Just my opinion, but I stand by it, and see more proof of it every day.
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Fair enough....notice especially the word FAIR. nm
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Do You Like Apples?
Four separate recent polls have indicated that aproximately 20% of American people identify themselves as Republicans. The Republican Party has lost a fourth of its base over the last 25 years. Specter's switch highlighted the fact that people are walking away from the Republican Party.
How do you like them apples?
Apples and oranges. sm
That seems to be what our conversations always end up. We both look at the war in Iraq for a totally different viewpoint. It will never change and there is no use discussing any further because we have done it several times before. We will have to agree to disagree.
Apples and oranges....
Good grief. What is so insulting about proposing bilingual education for American children? You want better education. He wants better education. Where's the rub?
While I agree that the quality of education leaves a bit to be desired, I would look beyond the classroom to explain what is happening to the native tongue and why. Can you say electronic media? TV, DVDs, MP3, video games and the like (just for starters) hold much more sway with your kids than any teacher could ever hope to have. Virtual reality wins hands down.
Their future lies deeply embedded in a global community, like it or not. MTs compete with BILINGUAL, trilingual and multilingual populations in 3rd world countries for our jobs every single day. We aren't exactly coming in first in that race, to be sure.
Couldn't hurt to equip our children with the tools they are bound to need. Last time I checked, American pride won't pay the bills.
apples and oranges
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Apples and Oranges
The bailout for the auto industry was to save jobs. Healthcare reform is to save people. If the private insurance industry is a casualty of that, at least the unemployed will have healthcare while they look for another job.
Apples to oranges.....
Everyone may not be Christian or care for a tree, but EVERYONE is supposed to be an American, right? If not, go back to where you came from and live there with your mouth shut!
fair and balanced . . . fair and
balanced . . . we're looking out for YOU . . . we're looking out for the FOLKs . . . fair and balanced . . .
whats fair is fair
Truth is, what is good for one is good for the other. If Palin puts herself out there, she is a target. But then so is Obama. The problem is that when you say anything about O people go crazy. When someone says something about Palin, its just true.
Apples meet oranges. (nm)
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Again, apples...meet oranges!
Unlike common garden-variety pedophiles, Priests are in positions of power within the church and take vows of celibacy. I am sure you are aware of the major upheaval in the Catholic Diocese because of the extensive number of cases where priests have sexually molested children. Exorbitant payouts have been made by the Catholic Diocese to the many children who are victims of Priests who are practicing pedophiles.
Apples...meet oranges! (nm)
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Another apples to oranges nonsequeter.
His daughters attend the school where kids of many high-profile official go. As we can see from the gusher of back pack reports and endless analyses of their first day at school yesterday, his daughters will be fodder for the paparazzi, not to mention targets of kidnapping and assassination. They have considerations that Joe and Josephine the Parents do not have.
There is nothing hypocritical about rejecting school vouchers programs which are unnecessary, undesirable and, in fact, DO undermine the public schools systems by diverting funds that can do more good for a larger number of children in public settings. He campaigned on this issue and the way he has responded to the issue is perfectly consistent with what he said before he election.
Don't you have better things to do with your time than a 24/7/365 witch hunt vigil?
Yes, but pears and apples are both fruit!
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You can't compare apples and oranges...
today, came from Bush' watch - including the sorry mess of our economy and our standing in the world theater.
Sorry you don't like the truth.
You are putting apples with oranges.,
this has nothing to do with that.
The saying, 'a few bad apples spoil the bunch' is true...sm
I think the loose recruiting tactics to beef of the military that is what is causing these chain of events. My question is how can America screen soldiers to prevent stuff like this?
And to take away their immunity is just as scary to me. There's no time like the present to start unhooking the training wheels.
Oh yeah, judge an entire party by a few bad apples.
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you're mixing apples and beans, drug addiction
alcoholism and drug addition is nothing like religious fanaticism and/or religious extremism.....and/or genocide in Darfur and/or Kenya
he went to see Odinga not a month ago to try and broker peace there......and after he left Kenya, the genocide continued and continues thru now....
sand....head....ostrich.......
Who to pick?
I truly do not like either McCain or Obama. I don't want to NOT vote. I don't want to stay in the same course we are in.....which counts McCain out. But I don't want to vote for change just for the sake of change. If it were a change I could believe in and have faith....okay....but I don't and so that counts Obama out. So now what? 
VP pick
I don't know anything about her really, but I was just telling my husband last night that the only way McCain is going to be able to keep this race competitive at all would be to pick a pro-life woman. I didn't think he would really and my husband couldn't think of any (and he's a repub). As a Democrat I of course would have loved it if McCain would have picked Lieberman to demoralize the base or Huckabee to demoralize the independents, but ah well. It's a smart pick, I have to say.
I'd pick you to mod if I had the say
just to prove that it wouldn't matter who was moderating to me. I'm confident in my party, how 'bout you?
Take your pick from above.........
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where is my pick my up?
I pay and pay and I never get any pick me up. Since you would much rather pay for it, go ahead, pay for it. Don't ask me to pay, though, because I would much rather not. I think I paid enuff all ready.
Don't we pick and choose
Don't we pick which Bible adages we follow? The Bible also says turn the other cheek, love thy neighbor as thyself, do unto others....yet many Christians in various venues (including these boards) chide others for being advocates of peace, tolerance and love for all citizens of the world.
The Bible has contradictions, it was written by men, after all and seems incredibly subject to interpretation.
He should pick Hillary
They are two peas in a pod. It was evidenced by his speech tonight he thinks she such a great person. I could just feel the love he has for her. Seriously...they voted alike on almost everything. I think his speach tonight was more of him trying to pull her votes away from Barack to vote for him.
that should be "who" is your pick... duh (nm)
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Well said. If we could only pick and choose who to help..
someone as yourself would be on top of my list!
You know, at this point he could pick
Jesus Christ to be in his cabinet and you people would find some something to b**ch about that, too. Good grief!!
You can't pick and choose WHEN you
want majority rule to count. The people have spoken, they don't want it, try again next time.
He wasn't my first pick....(sm)
However, we are now at a point where time is the word of the day. Here's my problem with the situation. If he's so terrible, why are they voting him in? That applies to dems and pubs, as both sides have expressed concern. So, we know they're going to vote him in, so what's the point in all the delays? I think at this point it's just political grandstanding by the pubs. They did the same thing with Hillary. The guy that held that one up actually voted for her, and said he was going to vote for her, but still delayed the process.
For that matter, check out the attorney general position. What's the problem with Holder? On this one the pubs want to *question* him more about torture. Exactly what do the pubs want to hear? Maybe *torture is wrong, but we won't prosecute?* More pollitical grandstanding.
May we pick which finger??
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I'll pick one...LOL...(sm)
You said: "What about the voters of CA voting against gay marriage and now it's supposedly going to the Supreme Court? That's ridiculous. Since when is the Supreme Court allowed to overturn the voter's wishes? "
My question to you would be when was the last time it was okay for individual rights to be taken away with a popular vote? Individual rights are guaranteed by the constitution (which discourages discrimination), not subject to the vote of the day. That is why it needs to go to the supreme court. Do you think it would be okay to all of the sudden pop up and have a vote in 2009 on whether or not women can vote when we already have that right? On top of that, the state supreme court has now ruled that prop 8 stands, so at this point LGBTs cannot get married. However, (and here comes the double standard), LGBTs who are already married can stay married? What kind of reasoning is that? As far as I'm concerned, this is a textbook case of discrimination.
a pick-me-up for Congress???
you're kidding right?? Pick them up from what? all the hard work they have been doing finding new ways to spend our money??
No, but I do hear him saying "don't pick
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Okay Republicans, you is YOUR pick for McCain VP?
I'm not looking to start either a we-love-McCain or we-hate-McCain thread (same for Obama), just curious to hear from the Republicans here who they would like to see McCain pick. It sounds like he may announce Friday.
Dems are also ecstatic over this pick.
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No. It was sexist of him to pick a token fm
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anyone else insulted over the Palin pick?
As an American woman I am insulted over the cynical pick of Sarah Palin as the Republican VP. She has a vaginia and everything I believe is supposed to suddenly escape my female pee sized brain?! I am suppose to want to vote Republican because they pick a woman? This proves the Republicans are insane.
Sarah Palin is against abortion and does not believe in birth control.
Sarah does not believe in evolution and thinks all schools should teach creationism.
She doesn't have an opinion on the Iraq war.
She is a pro gun person.
She doesn't believe in global warming.
She oppose gay marriage.
She is against putting polar bears on the endangered species list.
She is an advocate strongly for drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
Her husband works for BP (British Petroleum) and she pushed for another pipeline to be built in Alaska.
At the age of 45, since she does not believe in birth control, had another baby and he has down syndrome. This seems to me to be pretty poor judgement on her part.
She says she has family values, she is a Governor and her husband works on the North Shore full time, who raises the Palin kids?
Palin has her sisters ex husband fired from the Alaska State Patrol.
Can anyone say abuse of power?
Palin was a Mayor of a 9,000 person town and has been Governor for only 20 months.
She voted for pat Buchanan over George Bush in 2000. If you think Bush is bad Buchanan is even worse.
She stated on 7/30/2008 she does not know what the VP does every day.
Gos is named her kids Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig.
The major newspapers in Alaska do not think she should be the VP pick.
Her mother-in-law said she is voting for Obama.
So America, is this this a responsible pick from a 72 year old man who has had repeated bouts of cancer? Do you want Palin running our country? Does being a lucky beauty queen now give people the credentials to be the VP?
Look....if liberals can pick and choose...
statements of what someone said once and once they say now...so can conservatives. You can't have it both ways.
Yep, as long as none of us pick up a phone or
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Whether you agree or disagree with this pick...
Maybe we should all check the facts before judging this guy. Actions speak much louder than words. Below are 2 sites, The first is a list of bills he sponsored. The other is his voting record.
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id=400120&tab=bills
http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=33530
Kissinger seems to think she's a good pick (sm)
http://www.voanews.com/english/2008-11-16-voa17.cfm
we pick up new accounts all the time...
like I said, the cpl pay is low comparatively, but I do alright. By the way, I certainly didn't mean to offend you!
Are we going to pick on his toileting habits next?
How petty.
Take your pick--World Net Daily or
Sad, just sad.
Excuse me but what do you mean by pick and choose?
Obama has NO right to 'pick and choose.' He cannot interfere in Iran's sovereignty and internal affairs only with the justification that he supports and defends democracy. I wished he could! But he cannot, this would have been a grave mistake, a bigger mistake than Iraq.
The Iranian government's reaction would have been to tell Obama 'Mind your own business.'
You would pick a fight with anyone, wouldnt you?
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That's not necessarily true. You've been able to pick up the slack sm
for them very nicely if I may say so myself.
This does not cost anything. Just pick a card and a message...sm
Or even type your own message and Xerox handles the mailing. This is neat.
Pick McCain's VP running mate!
MSNBC has a "Veepstakes" where you get to make picks on who McCain will pick for VP, and that's kind of fun. I have no idea who he will pick, but here are some names that are bounced around:
Bobby Jindal (I think too young at 36, but religious right seems to like him, which is more than I can say for McCain, so maybe that would help him there).
Charlie Crist (McCain totally owes him for helping him boost to front runner affter Florida, but he's kind of liberal for base's tastes).
Mitt Romney (the favorite in the "Veepstakes." Would help McCain in some places like Michigan, could hurt in deep south).
Mike Huckabee (may help in the south, but I can't see any other benefit).
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