It is wise to broaden one's mind..... sm
Posted By: m on 2008-11-22
In Reply to: for m: opinion......s/m - Vie
but not to the point that one's brains fall out.
I was not attempting to retract a statement, unsuccessfully or otherwise. I was illustrating the point that the statement needed to be taken in context.
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I think your dad is a wise man, thanks....sm
..and if something you really wish does not happen, then it just 'was not meant to be', often to one's rescue.
Your dad was a very wise man.
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He was wise enough to
accurately assess that the country was ready to elect an African-American president, run a clean campaign and win a healthy mandate without having to resort to dirty campaign tactics, tainted election antics or manipulated/thrown court decisions that left the legitimacy of his office in question for his entire term of service.
His cabinet appointments have been very well orchestrated and reflect stragegies W could never envision, especially the part about appointments of former opponents and assemblage of such diverse points of view.
Notice I am not speculating about the future, but the rest of the world is. Check out the link below. He not only has world leaders enthused, but has also won hearts and minds of across the planet. Wonder what W's global approval rating would be? Single digits to be sure.
I'd say O is off to a pretty good start. He will be dazzling us with his brilliance (especially vis-a vis his predecessor) in short order.
http://www.economist.com/Vote2008/
she isn't wise
sorry
Maybe it would be wise...
It would be wise to at least wait for the next election day before you start to crow.
You're a very wise person.
There is a definite tendency for some posters on these boards (not so much this one) to very negatively judge a post based on who posted instead of what was contained in the post. And you're right. That just detracts from the entire value of the post when they do that. (Anyone who doesn't believe me can visit the Conservative and see how they chew up and spit out those who don't assign nicknames to themselves.)
Thanks for posting and thanks for the link.
and this wise speech comes from a man
who admitted he's had too many wives, done too many drugs....and was happy to admit he inhaled.
Ahhh the credibility....
Wise Up and Get Real
I am without question loudly and proudly supporting Barack Obama. I am not supporting him because of the color of his skin, nor am I not supporting John McCain because of the color of his skin. I am supporting Barack Obama because he has inspired something in me. The belief and hope and optimism that there are actually people in politics who feel as I feel and will make a difference towards that end. The belief that people are people and that my neighbors next door and the people who live on the other side of town and the people who live in the next state and the people who live in the south and the people who live in the north all matter regardless of their ethnicities, regardless of their incomes, regardless of their education or lack thereof, regardless of whatever circumstances they have been born into. We are all Americans and we all deserve a chance to be educated, a chance to have healthcare, a chance to have hopes and dreams, and the opportunity to work for those hopes and dreams.
John McCain is not going to provide any of that, least of all hope. It is actually scary that the people who are so dead-set against supporting Barack Obama are the people who would reap so much of the benefits of his presidency. And I wonder why you don't support him? Gee, that is such a mystery! Yet you all go on about McCain picking a woman as his VP. Big deal! A woman or man can do the same job, but if you were smart you would realize it is about the right person and gender has nothing to do with smarts, compassion, fairness, hope, inclusion, and inspiration.
Wake up or you people are going to be in the same situation 4 years from now that you are in now. After all, how smart can you be if you voted for Bush over Gore. And better yet, how smart can you be if you gave Bush another 4 years and actually believed the lies about Kerry. My conscious is clear, I didn't vote for Bush. I voted for Gore and I certainly voted for Kerry after the first horrific 4 years. Please educate yourself and wise up. Fear is the reason Bush is president. Let go of it and make better decisions.
And if you are wondering who I am, I will be happy to tell you. I have been an MT for 5 years. I am a single parent. I own my own home and purchased it myself. I have 1 son. I homeschool him and he is above grade level in all subjects. I also happen to be African American and my son is of mixed race, as his biological father is Caucasian. I state these facts loudly and proudly just as I loudly and proudly support Barack Obama the best person for the most important job in the world.
Very wise words.
There's hope for the younger generation yet!!
Words from the wise
Everyone loves Bill Clinton. Every single democrat (well almost every single) democrat will praise Bill Clinton up and down. Even D. Morris referred to him in an interview as being "the most brilliant man" (we about threw up, but we repect Morris' opinion). He's always talked about with admiration by a great many and everything he says is true (according to a lot of the liberals). So...here are words from the wise one.
(In an interview about Obama)
"When was the last time we elected a President based on one year of service in the senate before he started running. He will have been a senator longer by the time if he's innaugerated. But essentially once you start running for President full time you don't have time to do much else"
This is so so true. How can anyone elect a person with only one year's time in Washington with no experience. Forget who he is, who he's related to, who he associated with, and even forget the whole non-US citizen thing.
Experience. That is what we need! Not a bunch of "feel good" statements to make you believe he cares about you.
I read an article that said the most rediculous campaign slogan is "Change". Change into what? Change into socialism? "Change For The Worse" is a better slogan.
"Hope". There's another one. Hope? Hope for what? Hope they don't see what I'm really about before I can mesmerize them and thell them I feel their pain and will solve all their problems. "Hopelessness" is a better slogan.
Then his talks about changing the world? Excuse me...we're voting for US president. Not Global/Worldwide president. You only have 1 year in the senate and now you think your qualified to change the whole world. Oh yeah, I'm sure the other countries are really going to love us with that one. They're already pretty "tanked up" that Bush is trying to change their government into the same kind we have. Sure Obama you'll go over really well. It doesn't surprise me though because the same people who financed Bush are financing Obama.
Sorry, I'm looking for
1. Someone with more years experience in Washington.
2. I'm looking for someone who is prior military and who understands and values our troops. Who will be able to end the war in victory and bring our troops safely home. Someone who will not vote against a bill that will provide the funding needed to keep our troops safe. Obama's plan doesn't tell you there will be a mass exodus to dupe everyone into believing he cares about our troops, but he'll turn right around and send them to other countries equally as dangerous, or what is worse, back to the same area but now the fighting will be worse. He doesn't care about our troops. He didn't even have the decency to go over there until forced into it. And even then he only went to places where there were photo ops for him.
3. I'm looking for someone who is going to fight for Americans (JM has and will).
4. I'm looking for someone whose running mate has more experience than the person running for President on the opposite side.
5. I'm looking for someone who knows how to rebuild America. Knows we can't just keep printing more and more money without anything to back it up. Common economics (guess O skipped that subject in college).
6. I'm looking for someoe who will not increase our taxes like Obama's plan will, all while sugar coating it and trying to convince us that it's good for us.
There are many many more reasons why I am for M/P over O/B, but those are just a few.
And....seeing as Bill Clinton is considered to be one of the most intelligent persons in American I will believe his words out of his own mouth.
Wise guys....
our founding fathers. The suggestion of separation of church and state is in the Constitution for a reason. This is not about accommodating the nonbelievers or any of your other extreme statements of protest.
Preserving religious traditions (especially Christmas) has a time and place...inside churches, in the privacy of our homes, in our faces at the malls, in restaurants, convenience stores, gas stations, smeared all over the landscape in parking lots, neighborhoods, etc.
My question to you is why is it some folks cannot tolerate religion-free zones? Injecting religous beliefs, symbols, etc can be an extremely divisive act, as we can see by your own post. Would you also mount such strong defenses, for example, on behalf of Moslem, Jewish and Buddhist invocations at the inauguration?
Many of us are sick and tired, just like you, but not for the same reason. I'm tired of having this stuff crammed down my throat and seeing it creep into the body of our laws.
Do you always get so hostile whenever somebody brings up one of the earliest and most Constitutionally protected traditions of our nation?
Your dad sounds like a wise man
and that might explain the enthusiasm of the OP (and my own). It reminds me of that novel from the 60s, Been Down So Long, It Looks Like Up To Me. The very fact that the W era will be a closed chapter FOREVER, and that we can FINALLY turn the page and come out into the light from the NeoCon nightmare is enough reason to party 'til the cows come home. I'll take "hard," even "worse," minus W with a smile on my face and another glass of Kool-Aid, please. Make mine sunny orange, please.
Well spoken, oh wise one.
I am proud to offer this suggestion to all of those who choose to ignore the fascism of the last 8 years and are frightened and terrified (and ignorant) of the idea of a black man in the White House: America, Love It Or Leave It! I have a few suggestions where you all can go, too!
Yes, I too have been worried about some sort of attempt on President Obama's life before we can be rid of the Bushies, leading to an attempt by them to hold onto power forever. However, I think they have screwed up the country so much that even THEY don't want it anymore.
Keith is great. The first of the mass media to speak up about the unconstitutional actions of the Bushies. Why was the rest of the media so frightened?
On a bright note, I suspect that Bush's appointment by the Supreme Court was our Thermopolis Pass moment in history: Bush's appointment led indirectly to the election of Obama, as the defeat of the Spartans at Thermopylae led to the rise of democracy in Greece, just as the rise of fascism in America has led to the resurgence of democracy in our great country.
Now, back to taunting Mr. 644 and the Evil Q! 
Because investors are getting wise to the whole
Count me OUT 4-ever.
Thanks, Sis! (Cheese it, though - someone might get wise.)
Tell Mom I'll be home for Mother's Day.
Gee, O's doing great $$ wise.
Besides his salary as President and his expense account, he made over $2 million on his book sales so far. Maybe he will share the wealth? NOT!. The rules for the little people don't pertain to him.
Just goes to show everyone doesn't become wise with age. nm
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Very wise post - you are right on with how I feel
And so many of us out there. His calming demeanor...yes most definitely. He has a soothing and reassuring voice. If I was in an accident or something like that his voice would be very reassuring and calming, but everything else I agree with you.
I loved your post. Thanks.
Cyndiee, you are a very wise woman.
I have been reading your posts here and on the Faith board, and I must say that you are a breath of fresh air. My hat is off to you!
That's a very wise place to get facts.
A spot called Killfile? They are blogs from people, not news reports. One-sided views just like everyone on this board complains about. I followed the link and it went to "outtheotherear". Another blog. Checked out the 3 writers. They really caught my eye:
Longing good candy, cool toys and up to date television, Mike and his family came back to Lockport in 1999. There he attended high school and reacquainted himself with the American Way. A “conspiracy theorist” teacher at Lockport High introduced him to politics and suggested that China might become important someday in the near future; he has been hooked on both subjects ever since.
Mike recently graduated from SUNY Geneseo with a BA in International Relations and minors in Asian Studies and History. In place of playing make-believe with Model United Nations and organizing with Democracy Matters, he now spends his free time blogging and looking for the next step in life. He spent the summer and fall working as an organizing fellow and Field Organizer for the Obama campaign in Ohio and Pennsylvania.
Marc is very passionate about environmental, media, rural issues and issues of rural culture. He also feels it is his duty to keep other blogs held accountable. While he’s probably doing it a service in terms of credibility, his continual attacks will probably not leave him loved in the blogosphere.
Kate was born and raised in a dying industrial town in Upstate New York, an area she sees as a microcosm for a majority of America’s many detriments and successes. After earning a degree in History and American Studies, concentrating on Environmental and Native American History, she decided to try out state politics. Hating office work with every fiber of her being, she went back to school and is currently a graduate student, studying for her Master’s in Journalism and is the web Editor for Jerk Magazine, an independent Syracuse University student-run publication. She writes mainly about the inadequacy of mainstream media reporting.
I think you should stop flooding this board with blogs. They are one person opinions.
Words of the wise from one of the greatest men in history
I wish more people were interested in all that our founding fathers did for us.
Also: Penny wise and pound foolish?
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Also: Penny wise and pound foolish?
What good to reduce out carbon footprint when China and India won't, and if it bankrupts our whole nation?
the scorn of a fool is music to the ears of a wise man.
vive la Israel!
Wise choice on your part - and poor judgement on O's! nm
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Just trying to be logical, but I doubt security wise that would be a good idea.
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He got a look when Biden was making wise cracks about Justice Roberts at the swearing in. sm
I think when he is under stress he has a hard time hiding how he feels, but I think it is more a sign that he is honest about his feelings, not that he is going to act out in some crazy way.
O was wise ... wait... wait... I'm rolling in the aisle.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Osamabama 'distances' himself from every lame association he ever had with his rat pack of radical nut job friends.
And if he's lucky enough to get elected, he's going to distance himself from his fawning flock as soon as his advisors tell him there's no way in hades to pay for his free po'folk tax cuts he promised without throwing the economy into the tank.
What mind?
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Never mind
I thought you were responding to my comments. Now I understand your comment as you were responding to PKs remarks on this board. Sorry...
Never mind. You obviously don't get it.
How can you be so certain this country isn't going to be blown to smithereens? If we're not already in the beginning of WW III, then we're definitely heading for it, and Bush is encouraging it with his love of war.
I'd really appreciate an answer to this, and I would respectfully request that you answer in the format the question was asked: Without any personal attacks directed at me for asking the question, sticking to the issues and no insults.
Please tell me why you think we're safe under Bush and are not on the brink of being blown to smithereens. I welcome respectful, polite debate and sincerely hope you respond.
This is not what I had in mind, exactly. NI
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maybe in your own mind you have but i'd rather
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May we just keep in mind that these....
corporations you demonize employ most of the people in this country? And can we keep in mind that huge corporate taxes are generally a big factor in companies moving offshore, closing facilities, downsizing, etc. Corporate tax bills are one the largest things corporations have to pay...and yes, they pay bills just like anyone else...for labor, for benefits, for supplies and materials and on and on.
You speak as if corporations were made up only of executives and they are the only ones who reap benefits...that is just not true.
We do need to keep this real.
no, but i wonder how your mind got so
twisted on the facts. Democrats have a terrible history of spending more money; their theory is always to throw money at a problem (that's OUR money)...and if you TRUST that the bad guys will EVER think we are now good people, you are totally delusional!! AND, there's a big difference between slaughtering of innocent babies and death row immates my friend. Your argument is weird, but to ever disregard taking of innocent life is beyond me. you have too many topics to discuss them all -- but marry your horse huh? like i said, a very twisted state of mind. maybe the right medication or therapy will help you unravel your messed-up thoughts. and all your cheerleaders sure need help as well.
In whose mind, exactly?
Keep in mind
I said both MSNBC and Fox were biased. Then read their posts.
keep in mind
that Clinton passed the Patriot Act. At any rate--I think that we become more tha more and more susceptible to government strong arm every year, and I am not just saying under Democratic control. I personally have a problem with a state controlled medical system and there are many countries with worse health care than ours who offer it. If we take out the free enterprise, the money has to come from somewhere. Either we pay for it with higher taxes or subpar health care or lesser equipment or less research, but one way or another, the bill has to be paid. I grew up near a Naval base and my parents have always been employed by the federal government in one way or another--I think that my father currently has BlueCross/BlueShield insurance, so I am not really sure what plan you speak of, but you actually might know more about this than I do. I do know that you certainly do NOT want TriCare. My fear is that Obama will shuttle us down a path we are already heading at an accelerated pace. I understand that many people disagree with me. I can live with that.
If you don't mind my asking s/m
where in Oklahoma are you from? We have to be next door neighbors. I was raised halfway between Bentonville and Rogers. Went to school in Rogers, but the farm I grew up on has now been annexed into Bentonville and is a huge subdivision now. Hate going to that area because I'm totally lost. Husband always tells me "you grew up here, you ought to know." Well, when I left there in the early 60's the population was around 5,000. I don't even know what it is now. B'ville, Rogers, Lowell, Springdale and Fayetteville is all just about one big metropolis now, except for signs you can't tell when you leave one and enter the other. One thing is good, this area probably won't suffer as much in a depression as other places.
As for Wal-Mart, I think in the 70s, I was tickled spitless when I saw the sign in Katy, Texas saying Wal-Mart was coming. I shopped there then. Remember Sam's motto was "Buy American?" Now it's "Bring it Home To America." Yup, bring it on home from China or Japan or Tiawan or whereever.
Another thing about Sam Walton......he lived in the same home until the day he died, drove an older pickup truck and was just "one of the good ole boys" who made good in Bentonville, Arkansas. Now there's a success story for ya.
Oh yeah, we go to W. Siloam Springs, Ok to the Cherokee Casino, ever go there?
We all know what is on your mind.nm
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His mind.
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Keep in mind that I am not saying...
that I am against helping victims of natural disasters. I only think that at some point, they need to be pushed out of the FEMA or MEMA nest to take care of themselves and find their own homes. I think that one year is long enough. These people have had 3+ years. At some point are they not responsible for helping themselves? The still get Welfare--use that to find a house to rent on section 8 or something. Do they get to double dip forever?
I don't mind but....
How much is enough. 40, 50, 60%?. Should I give 80% of my paycheck to taxes (because welfare is not the only thing taxes go to). Pride is one thing, but should I have to put my bills on credit, and then instead of owing $160 for electricity, I'll now owe $200 when you add in the interest charges. Then because they've raised my taxes (but not pay), I can't pay off the credit card, so now I have to put next months utilities on my credit card. Now my credit card has been charged $320, etc, etc. Each month it will pile up all because the money I would be for my utilities is going to support all the democrat programs and welfare system for people who can work but wont. When is enough. Heck should I be taxed at 100% and not even be able to afford to live anymore and get forced into the street. Maybe that would be good because maybe then I'd quality for welfare.
Also keep in mind ................ sm
that a hefty population of MTs are of an older generation who did not grow up in the technilogical revolution, myself included, and it is those MTs who depend on transcription for their livelihoods. I understand the need to keep up with the changes in the industry, but at the same time it's just so darn hard to take a hit in the pocketbook in order to do so.
What I think you have to keep in mind...(sm)
is the mind set of the people in the middle east. We are basing this idea that it will only anger them on what our own reaction would be, not theirs. I don't claim to know what they think or how they think, but it's my impression that instead of them being horrified by the pics, they may actually respect us for putting them out there. One thing is for certain. When it comes to people in the middle east, they are big proponents of consequences. I think they would look at it as the US owning up to what was done and taking responsibility for it. That would be a big change for the US in their eyes (and rightly so). They would see it as an embarrassment for us, thus being the consequence we pay for having done it. They would also see it as one step closer to punishing the last admin (which they really hate).
As a side note, on Rachel Maddow last night it was noted that Al-Q had put out a plea for financial help. In other words, they're running out of money. That may be the only good thing that comes out of this recession.
I seriously doubt that is who she had in mind. ...
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reading my mind too?
LMAO! Nope, I dont care, not at all, LOL, gee you are able to read peoples minds too, hun? Attack number one trillion against gt, LOL.
So a theocracy is what you have in mind?
A Department of Faith like this:
http://whitehouse.org/dof/marriage.asp
Your mind is closed.
I have no desire to talk to the likes of you.
Nothing will change your mind but others should know.
Africentric church
A visit to Chicago's Trinity UCC
by Jason Byassee
One of the brightest points in Barack Obama's rising political star has been his ability to talk about Jesus without faking it. Beginning with his rousing "Audacity of Hope" speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention and continuing with his book of the same name, Obama has shown that he can speak about his Christian faith in ways that are authentic and broadly appealing.
Little wonder that his enemies have tried to turn that strength into a liability. Right-wing bloggers and TV pundits have been targeting Obama's church, Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, and its pastor, Jeremiah Wright, complaining that its self-proclaimed Africentric Christianity is separatist or even racist. Obama's campaign has itself pulled back a bit from being identified with Wright. In February it revoked an invitation to have him give the opening prayer when Obama announced his run for the presidency.
Africentrism (that's the term Trinity prefers to Afrocentrism) is wholeheartedly embraced at Trinity. One of the church's mottos is "Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian." Its choir is regularly decked out in brightly colored African dress, as is Wright when he preaches. The church emphasizes its connection to the African diaspora: it sponsors trips to western and southern Africa, the Caribbean, and Latin American countries with significant African populations. Julia Speller, a leader at Trinity and author of Walkin' the Talk: Keepin' the Faith in Africentric Congregations, notes in her book that the church offers courses in Swahili and that its youth programs, Intonjane and Isuthu, take their names from Swahili words for coming into manhood and womanhood. The congregation celebrates the Kwanzaa holiday and Umoja Karamu, a Thanksgiving Day service that narrates the story of the black family from its West African origins to today with dancing, drumming and storytelling.
Bible courses at Trinity emphasize the African roots of Christianity, focusing on the account of the Exodus and such passages as the psalmist's promise that Ethiopia would stretch out its hands to God (Ps. 68:31), and the conversion of the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 8. In his preaching Wright goes out of his way to describe Moses as "an African prince" and his wife as a "raven-black" beauty. He declares that Jesus himself had "nappy hair" and "bronze skin" (he cites Rev. 1:14-15). Otis Moss III, who will succeed Wright upon his retirement this summer, says that the church is proud of its "Africanity," proud that "when we talk about Sudan, we have Sudanese present."
African Americans have generated distinctly black forms of Christianity since they arrived on these shores. The significance of these forms has been appreciated in mainline seminaries and churches for at least two generations. Trinity is well within the mainstream of the black church, and is remarkable in the mainline world only for its size and influence and for its handful of celebrity members, like Oprah Winfrey and hip-hop artist Common.
Critics have pounced especially on the church's "Black Value System," by which members affirm their commitment to God, the "black community," the "black family" and the "black work ethic," and disavow "the pursuit of 'middle-classness.'" One hatchet-job report in Investor's Business Daily, pointing to the Black Value System (a statement written not by Wright but by church members in the early 1980s), concluded that there is "little room for white Christians at Obama's church." Black conservative pundit Erik Rush said the church has embraced "things African above things American," and he claimed that this should be as alarming as a Republican presidential candidate "belonging to the Aryan Brethren Church of Christ." Tucker Carlson of MSNBC described Trinity as having a "racially exclusive theology" that "contradicts the basic tenets of Christianity." Sean Hannity of Fox News confronted Wright on TV and asked how a black value system is any more acceptable than a white value system. Hannity also suggested that Trinity's emphasis on black values contradicts Martin Luther King's famous hope that people would be judged "not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Follow link for more.
Nostradamous comes to mind
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