It has NOT been proven his certificate is authentic - see note

• some info on the birth certificate issue - sweets
  • From where I sit s/m - gourdpainter
  • Senate document 06-570 supposedly - Backwards typist
  • It has been proven that his birth certificate is authentic. nm - oldtimer
    • It has NOT been proven his certificate is authentic - see note - New Englander
      • you missed the point of the original post - sweets
        • And I think everyone that thinks the issue of his BC is not important is missing the point.. - sm
      • Wow. Do you really want... - Kendra
      • I do believe that both sides use information from these folks (sm) - Just the big bad
      • what if that is all he has? - Amanda

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Sanity as attested by Hannity would be nice for this place, also, but still strictly optional.

again to be a LIAR.  So I've learned to doubt every single thing she says because she is a compulsive liar with no credibility.

I would believe my DOG over anything MT would say. 

And as far as Nan having a *civil* long conversation with anyone, ESPECIALLY if MT was involved, I've never seen that happen anywhere on the Conservative board.  They don't know what civility is.  All they do is attack, bully, gang up and chase away those who don't agree with them.

Just trying to point that out to the liberals who believe that telling the truth is a GOOD thing and that constant lying is BAD.

We'll have to wait until Israel lets reporters in there to find out the detaills on that.  I'm sure by then they will have figured out some other fairy tale for the press.

However, just for the sake of arguement, let's say you are correct and that Hamas was operating from these locations.  I still have a problem with that.  Think about it this way:

Let's say that you have kids that go to school.  One day a group of people show up going postal at the school.  Should we just blow up the whole school so we can make sure we get the bad guys?  According to your posts, I assume you would think this would be the appropriate response.

These are real people being killed over there that will mourn the loss of their children just as you would yours.  The fact that it's not in our backyard doesn't make it any less real for the people living in this nightmare.

....I thank you for your response.  While I agree boxes probably arent' the best idea sometimes they make complicated ideologies a little simpler to understand, I guess.

Actually I would be very interested in learning all the posters on these boards beliefs/ideologies/hopes for the future.  I think we could do this without undermining each other or bashing.  Perhaps I'll post it at the top of the board some time as a new topic.

I think Phelps and his daughter were banned back in Feb.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/7898972.stm

There are also a number of people on the list whose names have not been published.  I would love to see the entire list. 

We are talking about Obama here, not Bush the war monger. 

"There will always be a war that he needs them for and if there isn't one he will create one." 

You do realize that Obama was one of the few senators who voted completely against the Iraq war?  What makes you think he wants to stay in a war when all he has done is talk about how we need to get out of it?  That is just completely irrational.

"Why do you say the GOP is not funding the troops."

Ummm....because the vast majority of pubs in the house just voted against a funding bill?

As in the words of Archie Bunker from "All in the Family" to his TV wife Edith:  "Stifle yourself...geeeez".

But you've proven just what you are:  Just another lying conservative.  Maybe someday will come when we finally catch one telling the truth.  You have no intention of leaving, and you know it.  You live to spread your idiocy.

And as far as what you wrote on the Monitor board about people posting on the Conservative board, if someone did, I wasn't the person who did it.

Wouldn't surprise me a bit if it was YOU who did, though, just to start garbage.  That's the way you CONS work.  Just like when Bush's goons *leaked* the story about Iraq's *WMDs* in time for it to print on a Saturday, and the very next day, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld were all on the Sunday talk shows saying, *Just like the NYT said yesterday...*

You're not fooling anyone.

no meaningful dialogue, just name-calling. 

that what FDR did during the great depression actually prolonged the duration of the great depression.  Do we really need that?

The first thing I would do is fine all companies who hire illegal immigrants and then load em up and ship em back to Mexico.  That would save us a buttload of money right there.  Did I mention to ship illegal immigrants back?  LOL!

that the majority of us do not bother to educate ourselves on a candidate or an issue.  We just grab at something shiny:  Ooh, ooh!  That one speaks well and looks good!  

In any election, if there are candidates or issues I don't know enough about to vote on (judgeships, etc.) I actually leave that item blank rather than just put just anybody's name in there!  Candidates actually fight to have their name placed at the top, because they know that some voters will just select the first one they see.  Or they go for name recogition, and vote for the one who'se spent the most on advertising. Horrifying to think this is how some candidates get elected. 

In the election before that I was aghast when a friend that I thought was intelligent said of Bush/Kerry.  ''We've tried it one way for four years.  Time to try give somebody else a chance.''  When asked,  she could not name any area in which Kerry was better; he was just ''different.''  Oh, well, if it's somebody else's turn.......

And that's the main problem with our political system.  We seldom get a candidate that really inspires us and too often we just end up voting for the one we hate least, or the one whose name is listed first.  Or we get bamboozled by flashy packaging with absolutely nothing inside. 

So I have no idea how we make people pay attention and vote responsibly in order to change all this. 

It's me - the one who's been posting under all the gt alias joke monikers.  I just had to blow off steam after the conservative board debacle last night.  Don't know why I get involved in it.  My fall equinox resolution will be to inform, not condemn.

Thanks for tolerating my not-that-funny-ha-ha little joke.

A second false quote has Obama saying he would "stand with the Muslims," words that don't appear in his book. What he actually said is that he would stand with American immigrants from Pakistan or Arab countries should they be faced with something like the forced detention of Japanese-American families in World War II:

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

Off our meds, are we? - Mythbuster (Views: 33, 2009-03-10)

You might want to clean up your own backyard before you start on someone else's.

is not so much that he had an affair.  People do that all the time.  I personally think it's nobody's business, and that's how I felt about Clinton as well.  However, what we have here is a guy who has been preaching "family values" as a campaign slogan for how many years? and then this comes out.  It's the blatant hipocrisy that I can't stand. 

Also, this guy was supposedly a good candidate for VP next time around.  If something like this had been found out about Biden, the rght would have had a field day with it, just like they did with Clinton.

For those that feel strongly that Obama is ineligible to be the president due to unanswered questions regarding his birth certificate, there is something that you can do about it. 

The key here is that you need to be very proactive.  Posting about Obama's birth certificate on message boards, in emails and such will not result in him ultimately being unable to serve as president due to this very important issue. 

Many here have written extensively about this issue, and seem quite knowlegable regarding the actual facts surrounding his birth certificate, and the fact that he, in reality, is legally disqualifed from serving as president.

The many posters here who are deeply concerned about this issue, need to take thiings a step further than merely posting about this. 

Here is what you need to do.  Make an appointment to consult with an attorney and state your concerns to said attorney.  For a retainer fee the attorney will accept the case on your behalf.  Retainer fees are not that high, usually for a case such as this the retainer fee would run a couple of thousand dollars, plus whatever hourly fee the attorney charges.  The more people that take this proactive approach, the higher the likelihood that the case will be heard and ultimately Obama would be removed from office due to this birth certificate issue. 

In the event that the case is heard and dismissed, the next step is to file an appeal.  The retainer fees for an appeal run higher than the initial  retainer fee, however again it is not that expensive, with the ballpark figure of approximately $5,000.plus whatever hourly fee your attorney charges, and here again the more people that do this the higher the liklihood of Obama being removed from office due to this so very important issue.

On December 5, 2008, this issue will be addressed by the Supreme Court and likely there will be no furtherance on this. As many of you already know, a federal judge dismissed this very important case, and the Supreme Court is likely to follow suit in this coverup regarding Obama and his birth certificate.

I urge  all who post about this so often and feel very strongly about this issue to take action, retain an attorney and follow through with the case to its conclusion.  In the end, with your collective efforts and knowlege about the real issues regarding Obama and the birth certificate, you will have prevented, or caused the removal of, a person from serving in the highest office in the nation  who, in fact, is not legally qualified to serve in that capacity.  In doing this you will have performed the ultimate act of patriotism.

Sometimes in life you have to put your money where your mouth is, and this is one of those times. 

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=90125

this is an outrage.  citizens of this nation have demanded to see his birth records.  he answers to us and he refuses to be accountable to us.  i think that i should no longer be required to show mine.  if he has that right, why don't I?