It's okay to not like Palin. What is not okay is to attack other posters personally which is wha
Posted By: Mrs. M on 2008-10-28
In Reply to: Funny how you don't think Mrs. M comments above are hateful..nm - as she is obviously hates palin
I was called ugly and jealous because I said I preferred a qualified woman and said that Palin had only herself to blame for her unpopularity. I was called ugly and jealous because I have an opinion and that is what is against the board rules. Read the rules.
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you have no right to attack posters who disagree with you
there is too much of that going on here in my opinion
Cant' you stick to issues and not personally attack
Bwaaaahaaaaahaaaaa.
I personally think Palin has now
Joe Biden has been in politics for a very long time. Palin and McCain in no way answer any question directly. Palin took a shot at the media through an interview with Brian Williams. When asked to state the examples of the bashing she feels are wrong, she only gave one, and then didn't want to talk about it anymore. I have to say that even though you feel Joe or Obama faced with a real problem are under the gate and squealing, you'd better look at the examples of McCain and Palin interviews first. Pretty much all I hear out of McCain's mouth is "I'm sorry." JMO, of course.
Palin was unfairly personally attacked by the really
nm
Why do you feel the desperate need to attack, attack, attack....
what IS it about Obama that inspires this kind of thing? I guess you don't get it when someone is being facetious do you? Read the whole thread...including the part about celestial choirs, which was said by one of Obama's supporters.
The smoke machines and strobe lights was definitely a joke, one can only hope they would not do something so ridiculous but who knows....Britney Spears' set designer designed that set.
So much for no celebrity status. LOL.
She took it personally because she was attacked personally. Plain and simple.
Where did you get your debating skills? On the south side of Chicago in some street gang? Because if you did, it shows.
In a REAL debate, there is no room or tolerance for personal attacks. Yet, that's all you people know how to do. You can't stay on the issue. You MUST attack the poster personally, claiming to know not only what they think and feel but also claiming to know what every liberal ever thought or did, what they're thinking and doing right now and what they will be thinking and doing for the next 1,000 years. In fact, you seem to know everything about anything that ever existed on the planet, exists now or will exist into infinity.
As I (and others) have said repeatedly and you just can't seem to grasp, if you constantly treat people badly, they're not going to want to associate with you. Lurker was very gracious in her posts to all of you on your board, but even she, in the end, couldn't tolerate your continued, nonstop, personal attacks any more (as she indicated in her responses to the attackers). If you ever stop knowing it all and become interested in the proper way of debating someone, you could learn a lot from Lurker. You see, having *thick skin* is only important if you're a thug in a gang somewhere. It's irrelevant when it comes to treating humans like humans, and in that area, you have a lot to learn.
As for me, I like to learn from intelligent, friendly people with different political views, so I visit boards where those kinds of people are found. Not all conservatives are angry, rude, come out swinging and need to personally attack 1,000% of the time. Some of them are actually quite nice and informative, and they can be found on other forums. Too bad they can't be found on MTStars.
Have a pleasant evening. 
Sarah Palin fans are as whack as Palin.
Even John McCain's top adviser referred to Sarah Palin as a whack job.
we need more posters
here about the liberal issues, the more we have, the more the bilge from the right will be diluted. Don't be run off, now girl.
did the dem posters
on this board ever consider that this country is lost to yokels and religious fanatics who actually enjoy the vittrole of the Fox nation? That they elevate a corrupt, sarcastic shrew nobody to a Great New Candidate? That they actually view anyone from any other country in the world as a scarey fur-i-ner and think that the fact other countries look down upon us is proof we are #1? Our schools have gone steadily downhill. Our families are falling apart. There are basically fewer and fewer educated and intelligent people around to see beyond the poison being spoonfed to us by the republicans. Remember in the Frankenstein movies there was only 1 monster but dozens and dozens of ignorant village people whipped up in a frenzy chasing him with sticks and torches. We will have the government we deserve. You can bank on it.
For those posters below who like to
- Bush ignored the advice of more than 450 economists, including the Bush administration's own Economic Advisement Council and his own treasury secretary, when they warned that his tax cuts would fail as a growth stimulus, increase inequality and worsen the budget outlook
- Unemployment rate rose from 4.2% in January 2001 to 6.3% in the first 2-/12 years of the Bush administation.
- During the first 6 years, income rose an abysmal 1.6%. Though the inflation rate was at historic lows during those years, (2% to 3%), income failed rise at the same historically low rate.
- Poverty rates rose from 11.7% in 2001 to 12.7% in the first 6 years.
- When compared to business cycles from the previous 50 years (1949 to 2000), Bush policies underperformed in terms of GDP, jobs, income and consumption…especially in the jobs sector. Go here and scroll down to the economic growth section for a really cool graph that illustrates this point. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_George_W._Bush_administration
- Income inequality rose as the Bush policies benefitted the top 1% of the income earners. The Congressional Budget Office, shows that "the average after-tax income of the richest one percent of households rose from $722,000 in 2003 to $868,000 in 2004, after adjusting for inflation, a one-year increase of nearly $146,000, or a whopping 20 percent. In 2005, the top 1% received its largest share of gross income since 1928.
- Total budget surplus for FY 2001 was $128 billion dollars. Here's how W eliminated that and added to the US public debt:
Fiscal Year Value %GDP
2001 144.5 billion (B) 1.4%
2002 409.5B 3.9%2003 589.0B 5.5%2004 605.0B 5.3%2005 523.0B 4.3%2006 536.5B 4.1%2007 459.5B 3.4%
Notice how the value and %GDP trend reversed under the democratic congress.
8. Pubs like to blame dems for opposing oversight on Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae. They fail to mention that the 2 times during the Bush administration the issue of an oversight agency was entertained occurred in 2003 and 2005…under republican majorities in both House and Senate. Those dems must have had some help from somewhere.
Vote McCain and Palin! -oh and why does Palin
nm
Palin over Biden any day. Make fun of Palin all you
nm
the administrator, not the posters
I did not say I have information on IP addresses..I suggested to the conservatives if they think I am constantly posting with other handles than my own, they could contact the administrator and ask her to check the IP address of the posts the conservatives keep saying I am posting under and it would prove I ONLY POST UNDER GT, NO OTHER HANDLE..Those other posters are NOT ME..The administrator of this site of course can check IP addresses..NOT US, the administrator..
LOL, three different posters, I assure you
You are the one who is entertaining and silly cause gt, dixiedew and libby are three different posters, not one and the same..so you are the one who is laughable..LOL
The posts were not from posters outside of the US. They
were from posters from within the U.S.
We have had several posters here from out of this country.
They were dispatched post haste by the people on this board because they did not espouse their views.
Posters like this need to be left alone
nm here
driveby posters
definition: Those who have families and activities that prevent them from parking 24/7 on a small message board repeating same opinions over and over.
No more than any of the Dem posters on this board....
there's that pesky double standard again. Rather sad, really.
Just keep it about the politics, not the posters.
If the personal attacks keep going, nobody will be left to disagree...then we'll have a pretty boring one-sided Politics board....nobody wants that:-)
Fight away, but please keep it about the issues and/or candidates and not about each other.
Re: Right-Wing posters - sm
Not all of us are 'all for this pay-my-mortgage idea.'
I'm a conservative Republican and I think it's baloney that people who greedily signed their lives away to buy houses they couldn't afford should get a hand out. Their hand out came when they were allowed to ATTEMPT to pay the mortage they contractually agreed to. If they blew it, tough luck. No hand outs for irresponsible behavior.
I agree that if Uncle Sam wants to cut people checks for 75K, it should be for ALL Americans. And I'd be a danged site more resonsible with that money that these greedy homeowner-overreachers would have been.
ATTENTION POSTERS
There are way too many personal attacks, foul language and abusive posts going on here.
Read the sticky above. Also read that it is NOT saying to write whatever you want on here.
We're getting loaded with report after report after report to delete messages from this board.
Back off and take it easy on people. Absolutely NO MORE personal attacks. You don't have to like a candidate, but that doesn't make the poster who does any less of person nor do they deserve to be attacked or belittled or called names.
The same is true for those that are reporting absolutely every little thing on here. Read the sticky. Beware of flaming in these posts. If you are too sensitive to be on a political board, then please don't read the posts.
Huh? Two of the posters are directly below
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shelly -- don't let these posters
discourage you. Keep spreading the word. As a previous O supporter, I knew that he was pro-choice. I did not, however, know to what extreme. I simply thought he chose to support Roe v. Wade, as many do. Had it not been for this board, I never would have researched and found out about the FOCA. There are people on this board who can still be won over. Keep on "harping"!!!
The people who are trying to keep religion out of politics are the same ones trying to keep it out of our schools, our money, and ultimately our homes.
Here we go - bashing posters again
you claim the republicans bash and she's not bashing YOU ARE!!!!!!!
For all Politics posters - sm
If you have a problem with a post, use the Report Message button at the top of the screen. Do not post openly about it.
Personal attacks are not going to be left on the board. Discuss your views and perspectives, debate, argue but leave off personal attacks.
Every poster here has the right to their own opinion. As long as there is no inappropriate language, name calling, hate speech or maliciousness, opinions can be expressed. While "freedom of speech" may be a right in the US, this is a privately owned site and the degree of "freedom" to say what you want is limited to what the board's administration outlines.
Whether or not you agree with the morality or position of a particular view is something you will have to moderate within yourself. You can do this by determining what you will and will not read. Stop with the personal banter trying to "notify" posters you are not reading their posts any longer, etc. Simply stop.
Reading the Politics board is an exercise in tolerance, patience and flexibility.
Feel free to email the moderators or administrator at any time.
Moderator: Cher (cher@mtstars.com)
And these other posters are the people
we show respect for Obama! This man who continues to wow us with his dark and dangerous associations that we are to accept without question. I am still in shock!
I think that most of the posters on this board
forgot to read the post by the moderator. If they did, they wouldn't be acting so childish.
This used to be a nice place to discuss issues, but no more. It's been taken over by hostile posters. I stayed away for over a month and come back to what???...it's worse then ever!!!! They don't want to discuss issues. They just flame those that have a different opinion.
You have to stay cool and calm and take every post at face value, not get involved in a stupid argument, which is what most of these posts are lately, and not yell or use name-calling.
Freedom of speech does not work on this board and that is why I try not to post anymore. I just read and, sometimes, laugh at some of the most ridiculous ones, then count to 10 if I want to answer in an inflammable way...and leave the board instead.
Oh, yea. The other posters reminded me
I need a house. We are living in a basement, the front sided and open so we can have windows, but 3 sides under ground. This was the basement of the home we were going to build on top. Build this place for $10,000 using as much as we could from the old house that was flooded out in ྜ and had to build on higher ground even though we live on a hill.
We won't go into debt now because the county states our place is worth $100,00. Yeah, right. Try to get a loan or HELOC (which we would never do now). We'll live like this until we win the lottery. LOL
I don't think 80% of the posters on this board........... sm
are for the bill.
But then, I'm no analyst. LOL
Perhaps these posters were just "dreaming," as we do when we think.......sm
what we would do if we won a lottery, it is fun, but not practical. Now saying what you INTEND to do with a certain amount, like a tax-cut rebate, is different, so I would not be too hard on anyone on this board. There are so many folks going through such a tough, scary time, that sometimes you just have to dream a little. I love your monicker, BTW!
No, she had 3 posters above laughing
her off as if she didn't know what she was talking about, claiming they had never heard of such a thing. One even claimed to have over 1900 channels and had never heard this. That alone should be proof that the majority of the news channels do not present but one side. You see why Fox News is the most watched news channel there is? Good reason! Oh, and BTW, I just saw on Fox News the NAACP wants the young cartoonist AND his Editor fired, so I am sure their days with the Post are numbered!
No, her mother did not.......posters like YOU did!
xx
There are more trolls over here lately, and driveby posters...sm
And some of them even post how amused they are to come over here and dump on us. I guess this is their only source of amusement in a day is starting a fight on the liberal board. Whatever floats their boats?!?!?!
Please do not bash liberal posters. Thank you. nm
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Trying to intimidate posters who don't agree; always
hope a lot of these posters are not mothers
because they would be horrible role models for the younger generation.
do those boring posters include you too?
nm
Stop insulting posters!
x
Glad to know there are still posters with common
JTBB wouldn't know facts if it bit her in the butt. Same posts over and over, bashing Bush with absolutely NO facts but when facts are presented back, JTBB absolutely goes bezerk and starts ranting more and more about Bush. Made all these accusations when Obama was running for president, bashing Bush and actually rambled on and on about HIM destroying the constitution? Well, Bush has signed things into law which are against the constitution BUT I think it's about time JTBB got off the Obama love fest wagon and realize her precious Obama is just about to sink this country..........he doesn't even BELIEVE in the constitution let alone our civil rights.
Hope your post shuts JTBB up for a while until the Bush rants start again....
You have no right to talk to the posters on this board the way you have been
No, you’re the one who has no right to talk to us the way you have been. Who do you think you are. You’re the one who started in with “get off this forum and take a cold shower” I just repeated your words back to you. I see you sure didn’t like it when it was said to you, so why do you think it’s okay for you say it to others (no that is not a question – it’s a statement).
So in your own words it comes right back to you - “You have no right to talk to me like that. Who do you think YOU are. You are not the owner of this forum, not a moderator, and not management – you are just you.”
If you don’t want to be told to get off this forum, then you should not be telling others they need to get off the forum.
You claim you weren’t rude??? Here’s some of your quotes –
- get off this forum and take a cold shower
- You are a joke, 'Backward typist,'
- Confused or imbibed?
- There are meds against paranoia, don’t you know?
- You suffer from delusions
- The mind and world of caged-in Republicans and those whose life adheres to every little detail mentioned in the Bible, those are the ones who live in a small world
- paranoid and delusional, is this written in the Bible
- are you o.k.? Or did your UTI reach your brain (oh my wasn’t that one nice)
Oh, and here is an especially good one you said –
“I hate to repeat myself for those who have a slow mind.”
You have been on this board calling people losers, slow minded, pathetic, hateful, etc, etc
We know your democrat – we get it and that’s fine. (please don't try to convince us you are independent - we read your posts. Nothing to be ashamed of being a democrat. Everyone is entitled to their believes/opinions, but that’s doesn’t give you a free pass to bash others and call others names.
My suggestion again is that if you can’t handle a conversation without bashing someone because they don’t believe the same as you, or it just gives you joy to cut others down, there are other forums on the internet that you might be happier at. The moderator has said many times “no flaming”. It’s even at the top of the board and you might want to read it. Your getting very close.
It's just that the other posters tonight were much more respectful and better informed.
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This is the liberal board. Please do not bash the posters here. Thank you. nm
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Posters may debate here or on the Conservative board and do so in
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You sound like one of the more level headed posters here
I'm glad you don't hate him. Disagreeing with his viewpoints and policies is one thing, but I'm reading a lot of posts and you can tell a lot of people really hate him. I don't agree with some of his issues. I don't agree with some of McCain's issues. I think your also one of the first posters who said anything good about McCain. What just really worries me about McCain is his attitude, his mean temper, and his readiness to send us to war anywhere.
Oh, I think I may have not quite said it right in my original post. I wasn't blaming oil companies and CEOs for the mess we are in, I was stating (or trying to state) that they are the ones who decide who our next president will be (that and you know that secret group that meets every year "behind closed doors"). I still have very high doubts that the "people" pic our president (but I could be wrong of course).
With the glaring exception of several posters on this board...
who don't get it and aren't anywhere near the plate. That being said...I gave Obama kudos immediately. He did step up and in an aggressive way. Good for him.
so if obama is assassinated, it will be because of the posters on this forum?
i really hope you're wrong about all that - i don't think the posters on this forum are bigots and haters - i don't think it's about that at all.
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You're too busy trying to insult the posters
that I even copy your own words and you argue against that. One poster said he has never run for President or Vice President and you replied to that post and said "Yes he has". Brother I keep saying its like talking to a brick wall.
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