If you will copy and paste each of the statements...
Posted By: Observer on 2007-10-10
In Reply to: When, where, and why did she say these? - DW
into a Google search, it will give you some sites with the full context of what she said. However, if you take the totality of the statements, and look at her basic agenda...Hillary does have strong socialist tendencies. Read up for yourself on socialism...how it starts and how it invariably ends. Veneuela being an example...Chavez took power saying he was going to return power to the people. What he did was take all the power for himself...that is where socialism invariably goes...to dictatorship. Cuba is another example. Chavez recently took control of all the television stations and radio stations so he could control the content and people who would disagree with him. We just need to be very careful to look at all aspects of something that looks good on the surface...need to make sure we push the lid off and see what's underneath. Educate ourselves. No matter what our political leanings are. We need to keep our individuality. It is vital...in my opinion.
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Am trying to copy and paste it in.
very good, you know how to copy and paste!
we are all so proud of you!
It will if you copy it and paste it into the address bar
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nice copy/paste job....................
blow me
Just copy and paste into address bar...(sm)
I obviously have a deficiency today...LOl
you have to copy and paste them i guess but it will work that way
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If you copy the link I provided, paste it...
into your browser and click "go," the page will come up with the entire article. If you scroll down a bit, you will see the video screen which will work if you click on it.
I just tried it, and it works fine. I will try again to post the link below under "URL/Link."
I personally believe that your husband and all other soldiers who are placed in harm's way deserve so much better, whether it's safe food/water, safe electricity, better vehicles to protect them against IEDs, etc. They are doing their best for us, and they deserve the best FROM us, IMHO.
Links not working but will if you copy and paste them in address bar...
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No, Lollipop - no copy/paste......my memory serves me well....nm
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Copy-cat campaign strategies; copy cat leaders.
amfm
Should be paste!
OOPS! That's PASTE!
I could take a lesson from you in cut and paste perhaps....
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Another cut and paste from a neocon rag
Boy, you are a slow learner. You complain to another poster that the NY Times is liberal slanted yet you cut and paste from you right-wing neocon rags (I know you don't like the neocon label but too bad). You make it appear this is your original thinking. You post this stuff like it's your original writing and thinking but it's all cut and paste or right-wing propanda. I think you get 1 star on this one but you get high marks for crazed and annoying persistence and perserveration.
All you did was cut & paste. Whoever actually wrote
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Nice to see you know how to cut and paste
Statement 1. - Liberals do not need a conservative mission statement to bring them down. They are doing a fine job of that on their own. Yup, stand by that statement.
Statement 2. - Just you wait. In two years when the dems have really screwed it up for all Americans that is when we will see a shift when it comes time to vote again. Who are you gonna blame then??? - Yup, stand by that statement too.
Statement 3. - The dems are making a mess out of our economy (they are now in charge, not pubs) and every day the news keeps getting worse and worse and worse and its not the past administration, it's the decisions they are making today, yesterday, and the ones they are telling us about). - Yup, that one too.
Statement 4. - Democrats caring about the American people???? Ha! That's a laugh. You tell me one democrat that cares about the American people and not their own pocketbooks." - yup...that one too.
So which part of it didn't you understand. There is nothing to make up a mind about...they all go hand in hand and each statement supports the other. I'm stand behind all my statements. If you read my other posts you also know that I support Obama, but I do not support our democratic congress. Obama is an excellent speaker and has a calm and reassuring voice, which is what the American people need in this time of uncertainty. Congress is a bunch of self-absorbed politicians only caring about their own future and being re-elected. They are not doing anything for the good of the country. I am for none of the parties.
And again with the attitude you display. Save it for the republicans (sorry bout that to the conservatives but I'm sure you can all defend yourselves). I'm just tired of people labeling me as being with one party or the other when I'm in none. The arrogance is astounding. I have conservative values on some issues and liberal values on other issues. I vote for a person, not a party.
Copy of NIE
Here is the link to the latest NIE report if anyone cares to read it:
http://www.odni.gov/press_releases/20071203_release.pdf
do you really think there is only 1 copy of that?
don't you think if there was something to this then somebody else has a copy of this tape that they would show - even if it took money to get it from them?
a few parts you omitted from your cut and paste
Your large Bremer cut and paste from Wikipedia was done very carefully and only included the positives and omitted the very large negative comments/concerns/quotes/history regarding Bremer within the same article. You extracted in piecemeal only certain parts of the article to make your point. In order to be considered a valid point-maker, you should probably represent both sides and not purposely omit the negatives. Just my opinion, of course, and I am sure we are all guilty of that to some degree.
Thanks gourdpainter...the cut and paste worked. nm
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It is just a cut and paste of the Obama website, Just...sm
try to click on any of the links, nada, nothing. No credability.
Something fishy about this post. Bad cut and paste job?
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Wow -- did she send you a copy before
releasing it to the public? Someone else on here posted that you are very good paraphrasing, Sam, and I believe they are right. The book hasn't even been released yet, but you'll go with whatever tidbit you can find.
He produced a copy.
Not the original one. That is why some people are questioning its authenticity. I personally don't feel that this will be an issue since Obama's mom was an American citizen. I think the thing that sticks out in some people's mind is that on his school records he was listed as a citizen to Indonesia....as well as his religion was listed as muslim. Those are things that may not sit well with others. Obviously people for Obama find it as no big deal but others do think it is worth looking at more carefully.
Like I've said before, if any other politician had the background and connections that Obama has had and still has......they wouldn't even be considered for president. Their political career would be in the gutter.
If you really want to get technical about this, McCain wasn't born in the United States. LOL. He was born at a US military hospital in the Panama Canal Zone where his father was serving in the navy. However, his parents were BOTH American citizens, so he could have been born on Mars and still been an American at birth.
Exactly what is a "vault copy?"
I believe the only thing he would be able to get is a certified copy of the b/c on file with the state, the same as what I or you would be able to get. He produced it. Still you people aren't satisfied and declare it to be a "forgery." I have to wonder...are those of you who keep these posts going...are you really MTs or are you a part of a rebel rousing group who does nothing all day except post their agenda on every forum they can find?
You should move to China and take your cut and paste skills
Nothing fishy, link just did not copy right..trying again..
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/senator_obamas_four_tax_increa.html
And the prize is? I know, a free copy of
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Do not cut and paste long text...provide links!
Sheesh!
Please copy the post you're referring to that says she's not
I can't find it.
That's when she started referring to backup copy
The confidence you have in your candidate is admirable. Still it seems quite odd that SP will not be talking to reporters, taking direct questions from audiences or in town hall meetings or making the rounds of the TV political interview programs. Wonder why that is?
Oh, and don't forget your autographed copy of The Age of Obama.
By the 'impartial' (keep saying it and it might be so) moderator of the VP debate.
What liberal board did you copy this smut
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Yeah, O has NOT shown his vault copy and is
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Good because I started to copy the blog this morning...sm
And my first instinct told me not to. After reading Lurker's post I thought about the blog, copied it and forgot it had the word in it; it was bad judgement. Will it stop people from judging me - NO. That's the way of the world, so you guys have at it until this is deleted. I'm through.
statements from neocons
Read at your own risk..make sure you have a puke bucket close by.
Quotes from the The American Taliban
Ann Coulter |
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"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."
"Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."
"Being nice to people is, in fact, one of the incidental tenets of Christianity, as opposed to other religions whose tenets are more along the lines of 'kill everyone who doesn't smell bad and doesn't answer to the name Mohammed'"
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Bailey Smith |
"With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew."
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Beverly LaHaye (Concerned Women for America) |
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"Yes, religion and politics do mix. America is a nation based on biblical principles. Christian values dominate our government. The test of those values is the Bible. Politicians who do not use the bible to guide their public and private lives do not belong in office."
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Bob Dornan (Rep. R-CA) |
"Don't use the word 'gay' unless it's an acronym for 'Got Aids Yet'"
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David Barton (Wallbuilders) |
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"There should be absolutely no 'Separation of Church and State' in America."
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David Trosch |
"Sodomy is a graver sin than murder. – Unless there is life there can be no murder."
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Fob James (Governor of Alabama) |
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"Behind this judicial wall of separation there is a tyranny of lies that will fall... I say to you, my friends, let it fall!"
"A good butt-whipping and then a prayer is a wonderful remedy."
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Fred Phelps (Westboro Baptist Church) |
"If you got to castrate your miserable self with a piece of rusty barb wire, do it."
"Hear the word of the LORD, America, fag-enablers are worse than the fags themselves, and will be punished in the everlasting lake of fire!"
"You telling these miserable, Hell-bound, bath house-wallowing, anal-copulating fags that God loves them!? You have bats in the belfry!"
"American Veterans are to blame for the fag takeover of this nation. They have the power in their political lobby to influence the zeitgeist, get the fags out of the military, and back in the closet where they belong!"
"Not only is homosexuality a sin, but anyone who supports fags is just as guilty as they are. You are both worthy of death."
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Gary Bauer (American Values) |
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"We are engaged in a social, political, and cultural war. There's a lot of talk in America about pluralism. But the bottom line is somebody's values will prevail. And the winner gets the right to teach our children what to believe."
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Gary North (Institute for Christian Economics) |
"The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant–baptism and holy communion–must be denied citizenship."
"This is God's world, not Satan's. Christians are the lawful heirs, not non-Christians."
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Gary Potter (Catholics for Christian Political Action) |
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"When the Christian majority takes over this country, there will be no satanic churches, no more free distribution of pornography, no more talk of rights for homosexuals. After the Christian majority takes control, pluralism will be seen as immoral and evil and the state will not permit anybody the right to practice evil."
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George Bush Sr. (President of the United States) |
"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."
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George W. Bush (President of the United States) |
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"I don't think that witchcraft is a religion. I wish the military would rethink this decision."*
"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."
"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
"This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while."
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*Comment about Wiccans in the military
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Henry Morris (Institute for Creation Research) |
"When science and the Bible differ, science has obviously misinterpreted its data."
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J. B. Stoner (White Supremacist) |
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"We had lost the fight for the preservation of the white race until God himself intervened in earthly affairs with AIDS to rescue and preserve the white race that he had created.... I praise God all the time for AIDS."
"AIDS is a racial disease of Jews and Niggers, and fortunately it is wiping out the queers. I guess God hates queers for several reasons. There is one big reason to be against queers and that is because every time some white boy is seduced by a queer into becoming a queer, means his white bloodline has run out."
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James Dobson (Focus on the Family) |
"Those who control the access to the minds of children will set the agenda for the future of the nation and the future of the western world."
"State Universities are breeding grounds, quite literally, for sexually transmitted diseases (including HIV), homosexual behavior, unwanted pregnancies, abortions, alcoholism, and drug abuse."
"Today's children... They're damned. They're gone."
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James Kennedy (Center for Reclaiming America) |
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"The Christian community has a golden opportunity to train an army of dedicated teachers who can invade the public school classrooms and use them to influence the nation for Christ."
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James Watt (Secretary of the Interior) |
"We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand."*
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*Secretary of the Interior in the Reagan Admin. Responsible for National Policy regarding the Environment
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Jay Grimstead (Coalition on Revival) |
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"We are to make Bible-obeying disciples of anybody that gets in our way."
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Jerry Falwell |
"We're fighting against humanism, we're fighting against liberalism...we are fighting against all the systems of Satan that are destroying our nation today...our battle is with Satan himself."
"AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharoah's chariotters."
"The Bible is the inerrant ... word of the living God. It is absolutely infallible, without error in all matters pertaining to faith and practice, as well as in areas such as geography, science, history, etc."
"AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals."
"If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being."
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Jesse Helms (Sen. R-NC) |
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"The New York Times and Washington Post are both infested with homosexuals themselves. Just about every person down there is a homosexual or lesbian."
"All Latins are volatile people. Hence, I was not surprised at the volatile reaction."
"Your tax dollars are being used to pay for grade-school classes that teach our children that cannibalism, wife-swapping and murder of infants and the elderly are acceptable behavior."
"Homosexuals are weak, morally sick wretches."
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Jimmy Swaggart (Jimmy Swaggart Ministries) |
"The Media is ruled by Satan. But yet I wonder if many Christians fully understand that. Also, will they believe what the Media says, considering that its aim is to steal, kill, and destroy?"
"Sex education classes in our public schools are promoting incest."
"Evolution is a bankrupt speculative philosophy, not a scientific fact. Only a spiritually bankrupt society could ever believe it...Only atheists could accept this Satanic theory."
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John Ashcroft (Attorney General) |
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"Civilized people – Muslims, Christians, and Jews – all understand that the source of freedom and human dignity is the Creator."
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John Whitehead (Rutherford Institute) |
"The [Supreme] Court, by seeking to equate Christianity with other religions, merely assaults the one faith. The Court in essence is assailing the true God by democratizing the Christian religion."
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Joseph McCarthy (Sen. R-WI) |
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"Today we are engaged in a final, all-out battle between Communistic Atheism and Christianity."
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Joseph Morecraft (Chalcedon Presbyterian Church) |
"Nobody has the right to worship on this planet any other God than Jehovah. And therefore the state does not have the responsibility to defend anybody's pseudo-right to worship an idol."
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Joseph Scheidler (Pro-Life Action League) |
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"I would like to outlaw contraception...contraception is disgusting – people using each other for pleasure."*
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*I get the distinct impression that Mr. Scheidler's poor wife isn't guilty of feeling any pleasure…
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Kay O'Connor (Kansas Senate Republican) |
"I'm an old-fashioned woman. Men should take care of women, and if men were taking care of women today, we wouldn't have to vote."
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Keith A. Fournier (Catholic Way) |
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"We need a legal strategy which protects the rights of those of us who hold Christian convictions which will afford us the opportunity to contend once again for the mind of this culture."
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Laura Schlessinger |
"I want to coin a phrase here, and I don't mind help. What would be the communication version of "ethnic cleansing?" Because that's what in particular the homosexual activists try to do."
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Lester Roloff (Texas Homes for Wayward Youth) |
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"Better a pink bottom than a black soul."*
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*Roloff opened a chain of homes for "wayward" youth in the state of Texas; he was later jailed in 1973 and again in 1975 for child abuse due to the punitive punishment techniques used in his homes. He would have been finished had he not of been specifically given permision to re-open his homes by, you guested it, Governor George W Bush.
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Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin |
“George Bush was not elected by a majority of the voters in the United States, he was appointed by God.”
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Pat Buchanan (Presidential Candidate) |
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"Our culture is superior. Our culture is superior because our religion is Christianity and that is the truth that makes men free."
"There were no politics to polarize us then, to magnify every slight. The "negroes" of Washington had their public schools, restaurants, bars, movie houses, playgrounds and churches; and we had ours."
"Rail as they will about 'discrimination,' women are simply not endowed by nature with the same measures of single-minded ambition and the will to succeed in the fiercely competitive world of Western capitalism."
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Pat Robertson (Christian Coalition) |
"The Islamic people, the Arabs, were the ones who captured Africans, put them in slavery, and sent them to America as slaves. Why would the people in America want to embrace the religion of slavers."
"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different...More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."
"When lawlessness is abroad in the land, the same thing will happen here that happened in Nazi Germany. Many of those people involved with Adolph Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals – the two things seem to go together."
"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians."
"You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense, I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist."
"I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."
"[Homosexuals] want to come into churches and disrupt church services and throw blood all around and try to give people AIDS and spit in the face of ministers."
"[Planned Parenthood] is teaching kids to fornicate, teaching people to have adultery, every kind of bestiality, homosexuality, lesbianism – everything that the Bible condemns."
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Patrick Mahoney (Christian Defense Coalition) |
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"It is deeply troubling to have an appointed, unelected commission remove an elected official from office [Roy Moore]. The Court of Judiciary has overturned an election and crushed the democratic process through their actions."*
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*Interesting perspective coming from someone who's President was appointed by a group of "unelected judges", thus overturning a democratic election.
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Paul Cameron |
"I think that actually AIDS is a guardian. That is I think it was sent, if you would, about forty years ago, to destroy Western civilization unless we change our sexual ways. So it's really a Godsend."
"Homosexuality is a crime against humanity."
"Causes of homosexuality include: 'sex with animals'"*
"Unless we get medically lucky, in three or four years, one of the options discussed will be the extermination of homosexuals."
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*Paul Cameron was discharged from the American Psychological Association, the Nebraska Psychological Association, and the American Sociological Association due to his unethical practices and biased research regarding Homosexuals. His "research" has since been discredited by the scientific community; however his work is still referenced by many fundamentalist organizations as credible.
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Randall Terry (Operation Rescue) |
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"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good...Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a biblical duty, we are called by God to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism."
"Our goal must be simple. We must have a Christian nation built on God's law, on the ten Commandments. No apologies."
"I don't think Christians should use birth control. You consummate your marriage as often as you like – and if you have babies, you have babies."
"When I, or people like me, are running the country, you'd better flee, because we will find you, we will try you, and we'll execute you. I mean every word of it. I will make it part of my mission to see to it that they are tried and executed."*
"There is going to be war, [and Christians may be called to] take up the sword to overthrow the tyrannical regime that oppresses them."
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*It is interesting to note that Randell Terry's son is Gay
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Jerry Vines (Southern Baptist Convention) |
"They would have us believe that Islam is just as good as Christianity. Christianity was founded by the virgin-born son of God, Jesus Christ. Islam was founded by Muhammad, a demon-possessed pedophile who had 12 wives, the last one of which was a nine-year-old girl."
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Rick Santorum* (Sen. R-PA) |
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"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [Gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything!"
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*Now known as Rick "Santorum" Santorum
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Robert Simonds (Citizens for Excellence in Education) |
"As the church watches from the sidelines, the ungodly elect atheists and homosexuals to school boards and legislatures to enact policies and laws that destroy our Christian children and discriminate against Christian families."
"Atheistic secular humanists should be removed from office and Christians should be elected...Government and true Christianity are inseparable."
"We'll take away their power and their money. Money comes from students. We'll break their backs by taking 24 million kids out of the public schools."
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"Raising your children under Americanism or any other principles other than true Christianity is child abuse."
"You do not have the right to be wrong, regardless of what any man-made or demonic charter says."
"Democracy originated in the mind of a rational being who has the deepest hatred for God."
"Do you realize that the only thing that gives democracy existence is sin? The absence of democracy is perfect obedience to god."
"The best way to insure the earth is never over populated is for sensible and righteous governments to clear all forms of atheism and heresy."
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Ronald Reagan (President of the United States) |
"For the first time ever, everything is in place for the Battle of Armageddon and the Second Coming of Christ."
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Roy Moore (Former Alabama Judge) |
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"If they want to get the Commandments, they're going to have to get me first."*
"Worship With Your Vote"
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*Interesting observation of the Radical Right, Judge Roy Moore commits peaceful civil disobedience by refusing to remove the Ten Commandments Monument from the Court. He is considered a Hero. Mayor Gavin Newsom commits peaceful civil disobedience by issuing same-sex marriage licenses. He is considered an Anarchist.
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Rush Limbaugh |
"Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society."
"If you commit a crime, you're guilty."*
"There is only one way to get rid of nuclear weapons... use them"
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*Seems logical enough, doesn't it Rush?
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Star Parker (Coalition on Urban Renewal & Education) |
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"Anybody that believes in separation of church and state needs to leave right now."
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Tony Evans (Promise Keepers) |
"The demise of our community and culture is the fault of sissified men who have been overly influenced by women."
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William Rehnquist (Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court) |
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"The 'wall of separation between church and state' is a metaphor based on bad history, a metaphor which has proved useless as a guide to judging. It should be frankly and explicitly abandoned."
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Michael Savage (Savage Nation) |
"Oh, you're one of the sodomites. You should only get AIDS and die, you pig. How's that? Why don't you see if you can sue me, you pig. You got nothing better than to put me down, you piece of garbage. You have got nothing to do today, go eat a sausage and choke on it."*
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*Statement made on live national television
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I said your statements were ignorant - not you,
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He does not agree with the statements
This does not affect my decision - He does not agree with what this preacher is saying. He gave a very moving speech yesterday.
Innappropriate statements?
An assassination pool on our new president (whether we like him or not) is just an inappropriate statement? Promoting it is just an inappropriate statement? My God we are talking about a bet on a human life here!
I think there were statements to the illusion.... sm
that she would run in 2012 even before the election, but I don't have time to dig back for anything to substantiate that. Just my recollections.
I think we need to wait until it is a little closer to 2012 before we get all up in arms about who may or may not run and start fueling the fires. The political climate will likely be a lot different in 2012 than it is now and there will likely be a whole 'nuther set of issues in addition to the ones that were faced during this election.
Profound statements
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm and three or more is a congress.
John Adams
If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the
newspaper you are misinformed.
Mark Twain
Suppose you were an idi0t. And suppose you were a member of Congress …..
But then I repeat myself.
Mark Twain
I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a
man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
Winston Churchill
A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the
support of Paul.
(So true!!!!!)
George Bernard Shaw
A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man,
which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.
G Gordon Liddy
Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep
voting on what to have for dinner.
James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)
Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people
in rich countries to rich people in poor countries.
Douglas Casey, Classmate of Bill Clinton at Georgetown University
Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and
car keys to teenage boys.
P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors
to live at the expense of everybody else.
Frederic Bastiat, French Economist (1801-1850)
Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan (1986)
I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.
Will Rogers
If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it
costs when it's free!
P.J. O'Rourke
In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money
as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other.
Voltaire (1764) (Oh yes)
Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics
won't take an interest in you!
Pericles (430 B.C.)
No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in
session.
Mark Twain (1866 )
Talk is cheap...except when Congress does it.
Anon
The government is like a baby's alimentary canal, with a happy appetite
at one end and no responsibility at the other.
broad statements such as this
reveal much, much more about the thinker than the group he is maligning. Ask any psych professional. Ask Niles Crane. Dr. Phil. Dr. Ablow. Dr. Freud.
I applaud you for your statements but
I doubt anyone will listen for the reasons you listed. Everything you said is true and I agree wholeheartedly.
When I first came to this board, it was about the issues. There was no name-calling or nastiness, but as the election went on, it got really nasty. Links were posted so we could verify the information and/or come back with a retort. I came back after the election hoping that was all over with and was confronted with messages that were even WORSE than before the election. Like you said, there are no discussions on the issues. There aren't any links to verify anything. It's nothing but rumors and inuendos and O worshipping.
I've said it many times and it always falls on deaf ears. I see some are even on the gab board now about taking off work tomorrow for the inauguration. Lose money just to see "one of the most historical moments in history"? Not me. I've had it up to here with all of it. I've never seen an election where they had so many "historical" items for sale either. It's not the serious ceremony it should be this year. It's more like a circus or parade.
Sure, I wish him luck. He's really going to need it, but I doubt he can pull it off. There's going to be a lot of disappointed people in this country in a year or two.
Yes, let us get our statements correct.
Special Report: Barack Obama: The 44th U.S. President
WASHINGTON, Jan. 27 (Xinhua) -- U.S. President Barack Obama Tuesday held talks with congressional Republicans and urged them to quickly approve an 825 billion U.S. dollar stimulus package.
"The statistics every day underscore the urgency of the economic situation. The American people expect action," said Obama after meeting with Republicans.
"As I explained to the Republican House Caucus and I will explain to my former Senate colleagues, the recovery package that we've proposed and is moving its way through Congress is just one leg in a multi-legged stool," said the new president.
House will vote on the package Wednesday, and Senate committees began their own deliberations over it on Tuesday.
However, many Republicans turned against the large stimulus package. And after the meeting with Obama last week, House Republican Leader John Boehner said he and his colleagues told the president they feel the stimulus package is too expensive and too slow.
I personally think, Republicans do not have a chance with Obama. Look what our new president and the dems state about Rush Limbaugh. NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Must do what Obama says or he will back stab you. After he, Obama states, "I won and I will trump you."
I heard their statements too and
Although, I think it is to cover their own butts for something. If I could, I would have had them FIRED FROM THEIR POSITION. No open mind at all, just being arrogant.
I thought many of his statements........... sm
were right on. Just because he doesn't march in step with the rest of Hollywood does not make his opinions any less valid. People really do need to wake up and smell the coffee.
Obama has proven himself a liar and a manipulator. He is most definitely against Israel which is a place that no one in their right mind should want to be. He has burdened this country with debt for generations to come and has changed the economic face of this nation for the worse forever....or at least for any foreseeable future.
making false statements
Well, if someone posts that I have called them a bigot TEN TIMES and all I see is the heading of my post talking about bigotry..what do you call it? I call em as I see em..Liar is someone putting out false and misleading statements. Stating that I called you a bigot 10 times is false and misleading..hence, liar..
I can square it because they are questions not statements.
Biblically, only those who accept Jesus as their savior will go to heaven. That is a CHRISTIAN view. Jews have their own Messiah and their own belief as to heaven. As for me, I would gladly welcome all to heaven. But I am not God.
Bush irresponsible statements
The other night I just about choked when Bush made that statement about WWIII. If that was not the most irresponsible statement by a world leader then I dont know what was..well, maybe the statement he made a while ago about bring it on or the approved post by the WH Mission accomplished. Throwing around words like WWIII can cause nothing but angst and make other countries get ready for WWIII. It is like stating in a marriage the word dirvoce, once it is out there, the questions and doubts arise.
First of all...please do not classify my statements as ignorant...
who are YOU to decide that??
We are NOT France, piglet. Do you honestly think that Cornell or Harvard or any of the premiere medical programs in this country could train doctors as well if they were dependent upon the government for funding? You have GOT to be kidding. To bring those schools to the level they are right now, do you have ANY idea what that would cost? I repeat...you have GOT to be kidding. You might as well sign your entire paycheck over to the government.
And what great medical minds have come out of French schools lately? Any great medical minds in France probably graduated from Cornell or Harvard. Well I take that back...if they came to school here, they stayed here. That is another thing...I would be interested in the numbers of Canadian doctors who fled that wonderful system and now work here? I would venture to say....hundreds.
As to 78% of the French as satisfied with their program...I doubt that is a real number unless someone went door to door in person to 78% of the French and asked them if they were satisfied. After they take a big tax hit to pay for this program, as the cost is catching up with them...ask them AGAIN. I would bet that figure, real or not, takes a nose dive.
Yes, I can argue that citizens under socialized health care are satisfied with it. If they are satisfied with it, why do they cross the border to come HERE when they need an operation and can't jump the line? Why do people from those countries bring their children to Cornell or other hospitals to be treated because of lines and quotas? Why do they bring children with significant diseases here? Because the best medical minds in the world are HERE. And whether you agree or not, that will no longer be the case under socialized medicine. Socialized medicine has a smothering effect on research because it sucks up all the research money. It sucks up the money from a LOT of places. You need to think this through, piglet, and stop focusing on "free" because that is what you are focusing on. And what a, to use your word, "ludicrous" thing THAT is.
Your relatives in Montreal may be fine with it.....however, I have read article after article from Canadian newspapers with people fed up with Canada's system...a system which will give clean needles to drug addicts but won't supply needs to diabetics. And whatever the "universal plan" won't cover, still comes out of your pocket.
And while you may want the government to decide when and where you need health care and to what degree, and where they have to draw the line because of cost, taking any choice from you, that is up to you, I do not, and I will fight it tooth and nail. Which is my right. I do NOT want to end up with over half my paycheck going to taxes. I will fight THAT tooth and nail. It is already 35%. Piglet, that is ENOUGH. If they cannot provide entitlements for that amount, then they need to decide what entitlement is the most important and prioritize. There are a great MANY Canadians who are at the 50-55% point already. Please do not say you are okay with all your fellow Americans having 50% of their wages taken off the top so you don't have to pay an insurance premium.
You know, the reason insurance companies are walking up and down aisles doing those studies is because the health care profession would not police itself and start looking at cost realistically. Insurance coompanies organizing large groups of people gave them the push they needed to negotiate these costs down. Much like unions did in the beginning. And you want to remove that and hand it over to government. Basically you are wanting to take from insurance companies the right to negotiate prices down for consumers, and instead let the government take all choice out of it and make all your choices for you. You are willing to relinquish total control to the government just so you don't have to pay for your own insurance. What you are asking is that your fellow Americans cough it up so you don't have to. Because that is where the government gets every dime it spends. From your fellow Americans. Pardon me if I do not understand that. I do not expect my fellow Americans to insure me or my kids, feed me or clothe me or give me a check when I am fully capable of doing all that for myself. I may have to work harder or longer than some, but I will do that before I will ask you or any other American to pay any more taxes so that I do not have to pay an insurance premium.
His campaign has released several statements
stating that she was vetted. Just go to cnn.com and you can read them all there.
Here is a partial article (also explains that this was a rumor...that she had not been vetted:
Nicolle Wallace, a senior McCain adviser, told ABC's "Good Morning America" on Tuesday that Palin disclosed her daughter's pregnancy during the vetting process, and that the McCain campaign had been forced to reveal the pregnancy publicly Monday because of "lewd and outrageously false rumors" spread by "Democratic-leaning blogs and a few in the mainstream" media. She did not identify them.
Since McCain publicly disclosed his running mate on Friday, the notion of a shoddy, rushed review has been stoked repeatedly.
First, a campaign-issued timeline said McCain initially met Palin in February, then held one phone conversation with her last week before inviting her to Arizona, where he met with her a second time and offered her the job Thursday.
Then came the campaign's disclosure that Palin's unmarried 17-year-old daughter, Bristol, was pregnant. The father is Levi Johnston, who has been a hockey player at Bristol's high school, The New York Post and The New York Daily News reported in their Tuesday editions.
In addition, the campaign also disclosed that Palin's husband, Todd, then age 22, was arrested in 1986 in Alaska for driving under the influence of alcohol.
Shortly after Palin was named to the ticket, McCain's campaign dispatched a team of a dozen communications operatives and lawyers to Alaska. That fueled speculation that a comprehensive examination of Palin's record and past was incomplete and being done only after she was placed on the ticket.
Steve Schmidt, a senior adviser, said no matter who the nominee was, the campaign was ready to send a "jump team" to the No. 2's home state to work with the nominee's staff, work with the local media and help handle requests from the national media for information, and answer questions about documents that were part of the review.
At several points throughout the process, McCain's team warned Palin that the scrutiny into her private life would be intense and that there was nothing she could do to prepare for it.
Culvahouse disclosed details of his examination in a half-hour interview with the AP.
First, a team of some 25 people working under Culvahouse culled information from public sources for Palin and other prospective candidates without their knowledge. For all, news reports, speeches, financial and tax return disclosures, litigation, investigations, ethical charges, marriages and divorces were reviewed.
For Palin specifically, the team studied online archives of the state's largest newspapers, including the Anchorage Daily News, but didn't request paper archives for Palin's hometown newspaper. "I made the decision that we could not get it done and maintain secrecy," Culvahouse said.
Reports, 40-some pages and single-spaced, on each candidate then were reviewed by McCain, Schmidt, campaign manager Rick Davis and top advisers Mark Salter and Charlie Black.
Among the details McCain's campaign found: Palin had once received a citation for fishing without a license.
Palin, like others on the short list, then was sent a personal data questionnaire with 70 "very intrusive" questions, Culvahouse said. She also was asked to submit a number of years of federal and state tax returns, as well as any controversial articles she had written or interviews she had done. The campaign also checked her credit.
Then, Culvahouse conducted a nearly three-hour-long interview.
He said the first thing she volunteered was that her daughter was pregnant, and she also quickly disclosed her husband's DUI arrest.
Early on, the public search unearthed details of the investigation by the Republican-controlled legislature into the possibility that Palin ordered the dismissal of Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire her former brother-in-law as a state trooper.
Culvahouse said that he asked follow-up questions during the interview, and "spent a lot of time with her lawyer" on the matter.
"We came out of it knowing all that we could know at the time," he said.
As for the financial records review, Culvahouse said: "It was very clean. We had no issues there."
Throughout the process, the campaign said, Davis had multiple conversations with Palin.
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