If you feel so strongly about this...sm
Posted By: Democrat on 2006-12-21
In Reply to: My two cents.... - Observer
What should we do then? Keep policing Iraq. It's not even a war. Do you honestly believe this is the cure to all?
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I do feel strongly about this....
a premature pullout would be promoted as a great victory by the jihadists and I believe would be disastrous. I still believe stabilization in Iraq will occur and we will be able to start downsizing our presence there to bare minimum. No, I do not believe it is the cure all. As long as there are Islamic jihadists out there, and there always will be danger, until their own who say they love peace rise up and police their own ranks. That is why I feel strongly that we should present a strong and united front, that we will not tolerate terrorism against us. I do honestly believe that Al Qaeda's fear that Bush would retaliate with more boots on the ground in terrorism-supporting countries...is why we have not been attacked on our own shores since we went into Iraq. The idea that Saddam had nothing to do with terrorism or Al Qaeda is ludicrous, but the media abd the left have convinced many that that is the case. A federal judge found in a civil case brought by a 9-11 family member that Saddam did provide material support and was involved in 9-11. A Clinton-appointed judge. There are reams of proof of how many terrorists he supported who lived freely in Iraq...Abu Nidal, Abu Abbas, of Achille Lauro fame, Abdul Rahman Yasin, first WTC bombing, his old buddy Al Zarqawi, and on and on and on...but I digress. That is why I am concerned that if we get an administration who shows weakness and appeasement it could and probably would result in another significant attack. Because I honestly believe that the majority of the Democrat/liberal/left or whatever the proper name is do not have a good grasp of the threat, and they are more interested in getting and retaining power than taking care of this country...again, an observation, my observation, based on actions and words out of their own mouths. And this is supported by continuing to say Saddam had nothing to do with terrorism...again demonstrating no concept of the threat. Yes, I do feel strongly, because I love this country and I fear what will happen to her, and all of us, when people in control have no concept of the threat we face. God bless!
I don't usually post here but feel strongly about this one sm
I'm a progressive Dem but I think Hillary is the only way Democrats can lose this election. I don't know a single Dem who likes her, at least in my area (WA state). She is such a divisive character (due to the Bill haters) that "central America" doesn't want her in any way, shape or form. At least that's what I see.
I'm glad you feel strongly about him - see message
That is what America is about. Believing in a candidate and being allowed to express those opinions, and being allowed to express your opinion of why you dislike the other candidate. But we should not be tearing each other down because of who we believe is right or wrong for our next President. The bashing has gotten so nasty and for what purpose? Do people feel better if they call you ignor@ant and other nasty names, and then when you defend yourself they tell you your bashing them? There's just something not right about that. I too watched all the debates and that's is when I realized how many lies and twists is Obama going to tell. He'll say doesn't do negative campaigning but the commercials here are way way negative AND their on every hour or so. I'm getting bombarded all day and night (and yes it's both sides, but my point is Obama says he doesn't negative campaign and then I watch his negative campaign on TV. I'll tell you something...I don't believe either candidate. Otherwise my ballot would have been filled out and sent in. Obama has no integrity. He lost it all when he failed and continues to fail to produce documentation to show he is legitimate. He lost all integrity with me and others I know when he professed that those mean nasty republicans are picking on me. He plays the race card when it suits him. When he is losing on an issues he yanks out the race card. He is not truthful about his past acquantances, and he is not truthful about his plans. The reason I don't believe him on his tax thing (no new taxes) is for two reasons. One - Bill Clinton. He also said he will not raise taxes on middle class and literally within days of getting sworn in he passes the largest tax increase on middle income people. My tax rate when from 23% to 42%. Second - his voting record. He has voted to raise taxes on middle income in the past. What makes me believe he isn't saying this as a campaign strategy. So that is a few reasons why he lost credibility. He demands that McCains health records should be disclosed yet he won't disclose his (sorry a 1 page letter saying "he's healthy" doesn't cut it). He spends his time wildly running around suppressing information that as Americans we should see. Plenty of posters on this board earlier in the election were stating vehemently it's America's "right" to know about McCain's this or that, where he was born, health, etc, yet Obama has not proved this and everyone is giving him a pass on it. I don't get it. I'll admit. I voted for Obama over Hillary. I'd do anything to keep her out of the WH, but now I believe I made a serious mistake and misjudged her. Obama may be a fine speaker, good looking, dresses nice, beautiful family, but I do not know where his allegiences stand and I do not trust one minute that he will have our best interests at heart. I've read his past voting records, associations, etc. and I don't agree or trust him. So we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Yes, I am strongly pro-life...
and I have said in numerous posts that I am not against insuring children. And I am NOT. What I am against is taxing all Americans to death to pay for all kinds of programs where the waste is unimaginable. There are thousands if not millions of women who made a living having babies...under Aid for Dependent Children. If you don't believe that, talk to some people in Human Services. They sign up 2nd and 3rd generations on AFDC or whatever they call it now. Those ladies will never work and they tell you they will never work, and I can promise you they are not bettering themselves so that they can keep health care for their children. And if you look at those children, I am thinking not a lot of that check every month goes to taking good care of the kids. My point is, trim the fat on existing programs that obviously are not working...don't make NEW taxes to pay for MORE programs that no one is going monitor either. There is plenty of money floating around out there in wasteful programs that could fund insurance for children without making even MORE taxes. And what I am saying to you is that at some point, the more people who get on programs and out of the work force, the less tax money there is going to be to take care of all the programs. That is all I am saying.
And another thing, you need to read the bill. It does give a lot of leeway for folks who could pay for private insurance for their children if they made it a priority. But why should they, if you and I are going to pay for it for them. Yes, I believe there are some people out there who would like to better themselves but will not so they can keep health care for their children. I can also tell you that there are as many out there who could provide health care for their children but will not because they think it is too high and they choose to spend the money elsewhere. Ugly, but true. So why didn't Congress send the bill to Bush that did not have that loophole provision in it? There is a really good question.
Sorry, strongly disgree.
Do not even get me started. I blame Clinton for the mess we are in for these banks and mortgage companies. Should say he started the ball rolling. I have info on that. Oh man, time for me to get off the board. I think he is a liar right through his teeth. He was caught and yet, everybody was in a trance and denial, but yes, that had to do with his morals and not with him running in office. Yet your character and moral values seem to go together. Later all.
Oh but I strongly disagree with you
Homosexual acts are harmful to your health, regardless of the age of the participant. Killing an animal for food isn't harmful? Wow, I bet the animal thinks it hurts quite a bit. ;-) Homosexual acts, if promoted, are harmful to our children, both, mentally and physically. To continue to say they harm no one is a misconception. Homosexuality and race are 2 different issues entirely. There is no comparison.
Yet you are strongly pro-life - don't you care
I'm not trying to attack you, but I think that is a good point. I care about children in the USA. I think we need to take better care of them. I couldn't go to sleep at night with a clear conscience if I didn't want healthcare for all American children. I think the pro-life cause is a moral issue, and I think the healthcare cause is a moral issue, and I'm surprised that more right wingers don't show more concern for the children that they so wanted to be born.
This bill is for middle-income people - not the poor. Did you ever think that many poor people stay that way because if they rise up to a higher income bracket they lose their healthcare? Maybe being able to make $50,000 (or whatever amount it is) and still being able to provide health insurance to their kids will inspire people to get that better job with the better pay.
Regardless of party, they need to be reminded strongly
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Strongly agree.....I also am very skeptical of the bill, want it slowed down.....sm
This is huge and there are no do-overs if we do not get this bill right, because it is so huge. We need to act, and I understand why the president is so eager to get things going after the past 8 or 9 years, but we must examine everything, and taken everything out that is not truly essential, necessary, and a proven stimulus....take a deep breath, study hard for another week, and GET IT AS RIGHT AS POSSIBLE! The American people need action, but not rash, irresponsible spending, we have had enough of that. I truly believe in the President, his idealism, his altruism, humanitarianism, and intelligence, but HASTE MAKES WASTE, we all have to hang in there a bit longer and really examine the bill under a microscope. Funny, I watched Meet The Press as usual this morning, and don't think I ever agreed more with the Republican side on some things...whaddya know????
and I feel like makin *du du duu du du duu* feel like maaa-k-in love to YOU!
ARGH!!
You feel someone should be forced to do something they feel is wrong? sm
Sounds like communism to me.
I do not feel sorry for the 'terrorists', I feel
sorry for those who are (or soon were) held there and are innocent.
I feel ya..
I just have to try and stay positive. I dont want THEM to win.
JUST KIDDING!!!
Hey, why don't you tell us how you really feel?
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Tell us how you really feel
I think you need to use about 1,000 more ugly adjectives to make your point...
Feel the same way...
....I learn a lot on this board. Let's give the administrator a chance??? Otherwise IGNORE the trolls, even though it is really really hard!
LOL I feel the same way!
I am intrigued with his eloquence, not to mention his intelligence and complete command of law knowledge. Yeah, I know he's been studying and practicing, but he seems pretty sincere.
I'm just worried about the proverbial wolf in sheep's clothing. He is a conservative and if Bush nominates another conservative, well...
One of my concerns is the abortion issue. I am personally against abortion, but I am pro-choice. It scares me to think what would happen if Roe V Wade was overturned. Illegal abortions, girls and nonwealthy women dying. Of course, we would definitely see a rise in D&C's for the rich and connected.
I feel sorry for him, too.
He was always one of my favorites. He still is. He was *conned* just like the rest of the world. I can understand why he resigned. Being a man of such honesty and integrity, I hope he doesn't beat himself up too much personally about it. I don't believe he intentionally meant to lie. He was merely another victim of the current administration.
I feel the same way. sm
I have issues with much of President Bush's policy, most espeically immigration and big spending. I don't see that President Bush supports the true conservative mindset. I do support him, however, because he does uphold many other conservative values including abortion and I am 100% behind the war against Islamic terrorists.
Many feel it is necessary
I am not the only one who feels protesting is necessary, as you well know.
It is nice to spout opinions about what YOU think are the consequences of protesting, but there is no facts to back this up and is pure speculation, which I continue to see quite a bit of.
No need to feel sorry!! nm
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Im sorry you feel that way,
however, theres nothing superficial about the content in the video. Pets already have these type of chips implanted in them. Tracking chips. This is very REAL.
These chips are around NOW. As seen on on the video, a family has already volunteered to have these v chipis implanted. Theses chips will be more sophisticated than the ones placed in pets. Medical information, banking information, everything about you will be in this chip. At first it may be voluntary but before long these will be mandatory, to to buy or sell or do anything. Sure sounds like Revelation to me. End Times.
For those who have Christ's Salvation, they will be taken up with him in the clouds when he comes back. It's the ones left behind that will suffer this and many other great tribulations. Things are happening all around us that are in the book of REVELATIONS. Wars and rumors of war. Famine, Floods, Natural Disasters everytime you turn around. Rampant homosexuality, Abortions, pornography kids killing kids, gang violence, sexuality strewn everywhere and many other things on the news. This world is full of evil. Satans playground. Not to mention the economy and the shape it's in. People are losing their homes, jobs. There focus is on material things. Charge it now, worry about it later. It's all catching up. Yes, I believe we are in End Times. I do respect your opinion though. I will respectfully agree to disagree.
God Bless.
Lisa
Feel Ya
I really feel you. I was in the credit union one day recently and actually talked to a woman I know who was there to process an application for a credit card because of that idiotic commercial.
"I feel so alone..."
Sorry you feel that way.
Sorry you can't let people live their own lives without feeling the need to determine that a woman "must have a baby no matter what". I guess you would rather see a child raised in poverty, be hungry, live with abusive parents, be a punching bag if the parents take their frustation out on the child, feel unloved, and unwanted. After all.. the person who got pregnant as someone so delicately put it "needs to deal with it and be responsible". Sure it's responsible to bring a child into a horrible horrible home just so the mother can "suffer the consequences" that she accidentally got pregnant. Never mind the condom broke or her birth control pills didn't work, or she was raped, or it was found that the child would be severely crippled or retarded and would never ever have any hopes of having a normal or decent life, or any of the other numerous reasons someone may have gotten pregnant. But by god they better have that child and pay for their mistake.
We are all entitled to our opinions, but when it comes to another woman deciding with her doctor the best course of action for her future and the future of a baby (who is not even developed yet and cannot feel pain or think) that's where I draw the line and it then is not my business and if it happens to me it is nobody elses business - and that is my opinion!
We don't need to watch any abortion films. We all know the process and what happens. If the baby has developed it's a horrible horrible thing. There is no denying that. At the same time it's quick. Making a child suffer for life (60, 70 & 80 years or more) your okay with that??? I say let the child be born into the Kingdom of Heaven where the child will not have to suffer the consequence of a horrible life on earth but feel the love forever our our creator.
Isn't that odd? I feel the same way about...
true believers of BO/JB.
Sorry you feel that way.......
One doesn't have to be "religous" to feel abortion is murder. Believe it or not, there are "nonbelievers" out there who believe abortion is murder. Some are so condemning of those that believe it is murder because a lot of them have had or know of someone who have had an abortion and have those feelings/issues to deal with.
And the "crutch" you refer to, which I believe would be God, isn't a bad thing, ya know. Maybe you should try it!!!!!!
I wonder about this too. I feel really bad for...sm
the soldiers that have had their tours of duty extended up to 12 months and when they get home for a few months, get sent back again. How long can this keep up. So many of them are National Guard who have real jobs and families back home. It is just not fair that the burden is shared by so few.
I feel the same way as you do.
DH told me there is some site that tells who voted for it and against it.
The whole lot of them needs to be fired!!!! Especially starting with the ones you mentioned.
The dems are sitting there patting themselves on the back for getting this to pass when they are the ones who put the crisis in hand.
Both Obama and McCain voted for it. I'm disgussed with both of them. I'm voting for the constitution party this election. It's about time we put the country back on the right track.
It is true though. We have no control. We are supposed to, but it seems like the people are just placing themselves in the position of office. Pelosi? Give me a break. She's been in there how long and she's still doing a sh!tty job. Frank? Pulleease. And Dodd? He's probably the worse. No wonder why Connecticut (my home state) wants him to remain in Washington, they don't want him in Connecticut.
Politicians in DC, corrupt to the max, liars to the bone.
Most of what you say is exactly how I feel. I too...sm
have a hard time about the Rev. Wright's church and his sermons. I would really like for Obama to explain this further, but I have a feeling that his handlers are afraid that this would inject race into the campaign and are not addressing it. This, however, is not a deal breaker for me because I do not believe religion should be an issue and plan on voting for Obama. More positives for me than negatives.
This is how I feel.....sm
The last 6 years, people have been buying what they cannot afford. Our children learn from us and sad to say, but they want everything now and charge what they can't afford because that's what they learned from their parents. My 2 sons have gotten things just like others (cell phones, new clothes, etc.), but I made sure that they waited until they could appreciate what was given to them. Most college kids want Obama for president because they want change NOW. My son goes to Hofstra Law and says he will vote for Obama because Obama understands the younger generation. We had quite a debate going on here...but like I told my son "when Obama can't and won't even try to prove that he was born in the United States, that there is something definitely wrong here". Like my mother said on her dying bed 6 years ago "there are going to be a lot of changes in this world". People were living the high life while my family just made it month by month. My mother also said that day "the people higher on the ladder will fall harder than the people who actually worked for their money and appreciated every dollar" I'm glad that I didn't give in and buy a beamer just because I wanted one. It's time that the people who wanted everything NOW and went out and charged and borrowed, pay the piper. It sucks, but I guess I will be paying for the people who lived so lavishingly the past 6 years.
I am sorry that you feel this way. NM
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I would feel the same about it either way.
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Here's how they feel. (sm)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4fe9GlWS8
They do have plenty of courage. It is many in the general public who do not. That is the point. The military and their families are fighting this war, while the rest of the country lives as though there is no war at all.
thank you for that :-) I feel the same (nm)
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All I can say is that I feel sorry for you.... sm
I guess, out of the goodness of our Democratic hearts, we will have to drag you kicking and screaming with us to a new and better world. No hard feelings!
I mean feel sorry for Just the Big Bad.nm
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All I can say is that I feel sorry for you.... nm
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Wow - thanks - you said everything I feel
And you haven't been bashed yet? Now that's surprising.
I feel sorry for you and the way you think.
I made an honest assessment, as I don't post here often.
You just don't care to hear the truth about yourself.
I don't believe that. I just feel being over
here arguing about this whole thing will make some people lash out with words. But I would like for others to be respectful of our leaders we send to their country.
At least I don't think that is the majority of the way people feel. And I did not vote for the man. I was against this particular war and felt he went after the wrong people. Yet, I still wanted him to be respected.
Oh don't feel sorry for me....
and please don't pray for me either you self-rightous weirdo!
So? Even if you feel this way, it is okay
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You have every right to feel that way
as, obviously, it reflects your political bent.
I feel the same way.
This contracts should never have been in place in the first place, but what right does government have to take it away now?
Oh WOW.....I feel so much better now!!!
now that the government is offering emotional support for our tough economic times..................THAT THEY CAUSED!!!!!
If I did not feel
That you were truly mentally disturbed, I would so take you down on that post. I might anyway later. For now I'll just grab another stick, need a sharper one.
He may be yours, but a lot of us don't feel this way
You know the same way people said President Bush is not my president. He may be in the position (and I am one big baffoon for helping him get there) - please don't hold that against me everyone. I was blindly voting for a man I knew nothing about, but then I put down the kool-aid and woke up. Some of us are like that. Haven't been fully dumbed down. You may call him your president and that is fine, but he aint mine. Just like B. Clinton we will have another guy sitting in the office pretending. BTW - He is not in charge of the military. The people in charge of the military are the generals and commanders. Your lord is neither of them.
And now we should all feel sorry
for all the "anchor" babies in this country............. CNN seems to feel so sorry for them. We might "pull families apart", actually believing that all the illegals' children are legal citizens, therefore, we would pull the families apart if we deported the parents.
NO YOU IGNORANT WOMAN........... those children are anchor babies, not legal citizens. They are illegal and their parents are illegal!!
Anchor babies went from 2.7 MILLION in 2003 to 4 MILLION in 2008 and who the heck do you think takes care of them all! And please don't tell me they all got jobs and ALL making a living for themselves!!! BULL!!!
The parents should be deported home and take their children with them..... the children are NOT U.S. citizens!!!!
If you truly feel that
the only reason we protested was because we have a black president in the White House.....well....then you are a bigger dumb@ss than I thought. And please spare me the BS about how rude I am for calling you a dumb@ss because it is no different than people calling us teabaggers. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
I almost feel sorry for them . . . . .
it must be scary to know you're a dying breed, destined to go the way of the dinosaurs!! I guess I would be filled with bitterness, too. LOL
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