If this is all it takes to silence you....
Posted By: sam on 2008-08-26
In Reply to: What you do DOES silence the rest of us. - Plain as day. Go on. Make a fool of yourself.
your "issues" must not be worth caring about enough to post. How is it okay to silence me...that's fine. But then you complain that I am silencing YOU. Is this glaring double standard somehow escaping you? Are you so unconvinced in your "issues?"
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It takes so little to make you laugh - in fact, it takes nothing at all. NM
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silence? No way!
I hear no silence, however, what I do hear is people coming together to end this war and throw this bum out of office..YEEHHAAWW!!!!
No prob, gt; the silence
Silence is deafening
on the conservatives board. Where else is a political junkie to go around here?
What you do DOES silence the rest of us.
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I'm sure the silence will be deafening.
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The silence from Sam is deafening!
This is an easy question, Sam. You should know the answer off the top of your head without having to do a Google search.
The Silence is Deafening
*crickets*
Silence of the Pubs
The reason for the original post was to show that the Republicans and so called "independents" are quick to blame President Obama when the market is down, yet the cat has their tongues when the market goes up. Apparently, their motto is "If you don't have anything bad to say, don't say anything."
No one is foolish enough to believe that a one-day gain in the stock market means the end of the economic crisis.
The silence is deafening........
Strange silence now broken.
First reaction is if these issues, which have been posted on O's website ever since he launched his campaign, are of such sudden concern to the cons and femocons, why did they not get addressed during the RNC? Do you not see the high-jack strategy as the cons try to talk out of both sides of their mouths and reinvent themselves as the new age liberals? How is this different than the now exposed folly of the compassionate conservative Bush/Cheney ploy?
Small business. Either you can't read, you think that we can't or your spin cycle is stuck in high gear. Go here: http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#small-business. Plans to give tax relief for small businesses and startups, eliminate capital gains taxes on them and provide a $500 new making work pay tax credit (one of many) for workers. For all those IC MTs out there, this is aimed at reducing the burden of double taxation in the current structure where small businesses pay both employer AND employee side of payroll tax. Obama will INVEST $250 million per year in support of entrepreneurship, by creating national network of public-private business incubators to facilitate start-up creation. Your $250,000/yr figure applied to tax cuts on INDIVIDUALS who earn in excess of that amount. Therefore, your offshore, job loss, and massive flight to lower income argument does not hold water on this point. Please cite the right-wing rag you have taken this $6 billion dollar additional tax on small business claim. I'm not finding that in O's plan. The tax breaks to the "lower brackets" (losing their homes, can't decide whether to get medicine or food this month, and if they are lucky, can gas their tank once a month) is addressed below.
On the plight of the struggling rich. Define rich, please. From the bottom, INDIVIDUAL incomes in excess of $250,000/yr might look about right. From the top, $5 million a year maybe (one of McC's not-so-funny jokes, some would wonder). The 90% of the federal tax bill claim must be a typo. Go here for 2008 info: http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2008/04/the_rich_and_their_taxes.html. Our top 1% of filers pay 40% or tax burden. An accurate argument would include these facts as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution_of_wealth. In the United States at the end of 2001, 10% of the population owned 71% of the wealth, and the top 1% controlled 38%. On the other hand, the bottom 40% owned less than 1% of the nation's wealth. Let's say that one more time. Top 1% gets 38%, bottom 40% get less than 1%. Since they are not earning a living wage, probably that is why they cannot afford to pay tax. Got the picture?
There is only one reason our long suffering corporations are taking their business overseas. Greed. They do not want to pay their share and they get tax incentives currently for outsourcing. Do not take us down the path of needing to address sweat shop working conditions, 7-day work weeks, $2/day wages in developing countries where US labor laws do not apply. Greed is not a universal American value.
There you go again. Please try to keep this discussion in the context of McCain plans and how they are different than Bush plans. You are spinning way out in right field without a paddle on that ridiculous statement about keeping people in lower brackets. What in the world make you think this kind of ignorance is going to help JM/SP win the election.
Preying on discontent, fear and division was a blatent and nauseating subtext for the RNC this entire week. I do agree with inspecting history, and the history that is under the microscope now is Bush/Cheney and JM voting history. Do you really want to bring up govt "borrowing." Again, Bush is the record setter in this regard and while we are talkin' W, don't forget the Bush slash and burn policies toward our seniors. Here's a link for you to a rather exhaustive analysis on 12 reason privatizing social security is a bad idea. http://www.socsec.org/publications.asp?pubid=503. You can get back to me on that one with your rebuttal. My question would be putting WHICH people before WHICH party?
Survey Americans on which party they associate election fraud with in the past, say, 30 years or so and tell me what you come up with. So you forgot to mention what JM's plan is on this one. Again, just saying no to personal attacks and steering you back on course. JM's plan for lobbying and earmarks is what exactly. I see O has one.
JM hate war? LMAO. So what was all that military service orgie this week all about? The entire McCain family for generations have shown to us just how much they hate war. Where is his war prevention strategy? Did I miss the part where he sang Give Peace a Chance? Sam, really, do you care nothing about your own credibility or that of your candidates? Am laughing too hard to comment further on this.
Here's a link for you to serve as a primer on the Patriot Act controversy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act#Controversy. Will not address the attempts you are making to minimize the unconstitutional aspect of this legislation. I would like an explanation as to how RNC protestors engaging in destruction of private property, vandalism, resisting arrest, disturbing the peace and such have suddenly been charged with terrorism? The we have not been attacked yet defense does not make me feel warm and fuzzy about standing legislation that violates the constitution 9 ways to Sunday. Far mongering does not a justification make. O's plan demonstrates ways to tackle terrorism that do not involve trashing the constitution.
There are many issues swirling around the separation of church and state. Christian theocracy will be kept in the marginal fringes where they belong. Religious principles will not be incorporated into laws that seek to remove a woman's right to control her own body. Freedom from religion is also at stake here as are hate crime definitions that provide protection for Moslems in the US. That is the freedom the cons overlook every time.
You may not direct me anywhere in history on this subject that would attempt to blur the division between military and diplomatic initiatives. Hello. These are mutually exclusive concepts and one is designed to prevent the other. Got it? Where is JMs diplomacy? In the past 16 years, which party has demonstrated the ability to balance the budget and create surplus. Hey sambo, who turned a $559 billion surplus into a $400 billion deficit in just 8 years? Looks like there already has been a trillion-dollar screw-up that the next administration will be having to clean up. Wonder which party has the most credibility on this one?
Your prescription for poverty sounds like it was lifted straight out of O's plan. Read it before you try to claim it for the party who would ridicule it. My post ends here because the remainder of yours is recycled communist/socialist innuendo that has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject at hand. And the top of the evening to you too, dear.
The silence is deafening! For shame Sam nm
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The silence is pretty amazing.
Where are the pubs defending Bush's plan (and McCain's) to privatize Social Security?
Silence. Did everyone go to the religious board?nm
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Don't ya just love the silence of the Bushwhackers.......
Must have guzzled too much BJ...........
Silence of the Lambs aka Pubs
Why are the Pubs and so-called "independents" who love to hate President Obama so quiet lately? Could it be the fact that...
U.S. stocks surged around 7 percent on Monday after the Obama administration detailed a plan to purge toxic assets from bank balance sheets, fueling optimism about a revival in bank lending and driving double-digit gains in financial shares.
The S&P 500 and the Dow industrials posted their biggest one-day percentage gains since late October after Wall Street finally got what it was asking for: relief for the battered banking sector and more data suggesting the housing market could be on the mend.
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN2329947120090323
More Silence of the Lambs aka Pubs
Their only joy in life comes from whining and complaining, so don't expect to hear from them when something good happens.
Yep, that's how dictators silence the masses...
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There's that deafening silence from the other side of the aisle.
But not for long. That greed gang is going down...double-digits, T-minus 14 and counting.
Don't ya love the silence of the Obama lovers?
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whatever it takes to get what
you want. Sociopathic, much.
What little ambition it takes....
to follow me around belitting me. Make you feel like big stuff, all empowered and everything? lol.
I thought so. How seriously do you think anybody takes
Your first clue that this "story" just might be a tad suspect would be the fact that it is getting absolutely NO AIR TIME on any respectable media outlet.
We feeble O lovers (that would be the ones with the double-digit lead) have been using computers long enough by now to understand digital doctoring. Let's take a look at a credible source that has actually examined the birth certificate document:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
This is the second time this lawsuit has tried to pass muster, Miss out of the loop. It was discredited TWICE. What part of give up the campaign stunts (they are destroying your candidate's chances) do you not get?
They say it takes one to know one. I think we'd all better do a little praying. n/m
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It takes an interpreter because someone is i
the statement. The are creating a tempest in a teapot.
Takes the cake is right,
as well as the mixer and bowl, the cake pan and oven. You can keep the empty box, however....
All it takes is a hacker
to break those codes, passwords, etc. It happens.
This person comes over here takes a DUMP on us...sm
and you think someone is supposed to be chasing her down. I agree with GT, don't let the door knob hit ya.
Takes your money and blows it? NM
HA HA
She's got what it takes to stand up to the boys....
I'm working, so I don't have time to read through today. So if this has been posted before, please forgive me.
But if I had any doubts before about Gov. Palin, I think I've just been put in my place!!!
McCain aides whose judgment I trust are impressed by Sarah Palin. One was particularly amused by this exchange: A nervous young McCain staffer took it upon himself to explain to Palin the facts of life in a national campaign, the intense scrutiny she’d be under from the media, the viciousness of the assault that she’d be facing, etc.:
Palin: “Thanks for the warning. By the way, do you know what they say the difference is between a hockey mom and a Pit Bull?”
McCain aide: “No, Governor.”
Palin: “A hockey mom wears lipstick.”
It takes one to 'know' one, doesn't it?
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It takes a male and a female . . .
to make a baby, but that is not what I would consider a heterosexual relationship. That's conception. My definition of a relationship goes beyond a plastic cup and a turkey baster.
This takes the CAKE (& icing)!
If this man will lie about a GI bracelet, what WON'T he lie about? Come on, y'all! Wake up!
I didn't copy the entire thing (no no, right?). It appears that you'd have to go to the site to download it. Keep an eye out to see if the drivebys (ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NPR, NYT, etc.) mention it. I'm hoping they'll have no choice. There will be a ton of crying and hand wringing beforehand, you can be sure if it ever happens at all.
(H/T D. Keith Howington of www.dehavelle.com)
http://tinyurl.com/45q5r6
or:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/09/28/family-told-obama-not-wear-soldier-sons-bracelet-where-media
Family Told Obama NOT To Wear Soldier Son's Bracelet... Where is Media?
By Warner Todd Huston
September 28, 2008
Barack Obama played the "me too" game during the Friday debates on September 26 after Senator John McCain mentioned that he was wearing a bracelet with the name of Cpl. Matthew Stanley, a resident of New Hampshire and a soldier that lost his life in Iraq in 2006. Obama said that he too had a bracelet. After fumbling and straining to remember the name, he revealed that his had the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin.
Shockingly, however, Madison resident Brian Jopek, the father of Ryan Jopek, the young soldier who tragically lost his life to a roadside bomb in 2006, recently said on a Wisconsin Public Radio show that his family had asked Barack Obama to stop wearing the bracelet with his son's name on it. Yet Obama continues to do so despite the wishes of the family.
Radio host Glenn Moberg of the show "Route 51" asked Mr. Jopek, a man who believes in the efforts in Iraq and is not in favor of Obama's positions on the war, what he and his ex-wife think of Obama continually using their son's name on the campaign trail.
Jopek began by saying that his ex-wife was taken aback, even upset, that Obama has made the death of her son a campaign issue. Jopek says his wife gave Obama the bracelet because "she just wanted Mr. Obama to know Ryan's name." Jopek went on to say that "she wasn't looking to turn it into a big media event" and "just wanted it to be something between Barack Obama and herself." Apparently, they were all shocked it became such a big deal.
But, he also said that his ex-wife has refused further interviews on the matter and that she wanted Obama to stop wearing the reminder of her son's sacrifice that he keeps turning into a campaign soundbyte. This begins at about 10 minutes into the radio program. (Download radio show HERE) (H/T D. Keith Howington of www.dehavelle.com)
That is always how socialism takes hold....
promises, pretty speeches, and class warfare. How many posts have you seen here about "I am tired of the rich getting richer" and "we need someone to represent the middle class, not the rich" yada yada. It is already taking hold. And it NEVER works. All you end up with in socialism is all the money at the top (the government and cronies) and the rest of us at the bottom. The middle class DISAPPEARS. Look at venezuela...at Cuba...at the USSR before it broke up...and they will drag us all down the drain with them.
But mark my words...if it happens, won't be THEIR fault. Would be laughable if not so darned sad.
Anyone who takes Fox tabloid seriously is not worth it and
Fox is a one sided propaganda hateful tabloid. It's quite clear to the intelligent people of this world. Think about it for a minute. Sheesh. They lie. lie lie lie and Hannity is the worst one.
I hear you, sometimes that takes a little more time.
Siblings will be siblings.
McCain takes swipe at GOP
http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/story?id=6459397&page=1
McCain Takes Swipe at GOP on Blago Scandal
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iE2JCSH5p9r2GBkQWS9TWAMzmuvQD952J0Q00
McCain Pledges to Work with Obama on Tough Issues
He was GOP leader and candidate of choice. He's is sounding a whole lot more like himself now that he is no longer attached at the hip to SP. Why not take a page out of his book?
More on Blagojevich issue:
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/12/republicans_guilt-by-associati.html?hpid=topnews
Republican's Guilt-by-Association Gamble - An even-handed analysis
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081215.wibbitson15/BNStory/specialComment
Latest Smears Prove Obama Foes Getting Desperate - Another proponent of working together
If that is what it takes to close Gitmo
I think you are the one that does not get it.
Takes Americans a while, but they are starting to
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That one just takes a little common sense...(sm)
and a little fact checking. You might want to try it sometime.
Umm. That is pretty doubtful since it takes about
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I hope globetrotter takes a look at your post...
because a more potent example of elitism I have never met!
that's a load of BS. It takes 2 to tango and a woman
how to use protection. it has nothing to do with a man. If she decides to terminate her pregnancy it's her own decision. the minute a man can have a baby then it's his.
It seems "Barack" takes credit for a lot and blame for nothing.
The debate takes 2 hours. Have it in Washington if that is...sm
where McCain feels he needs to be.
It takes no effort at on on the part of 'cleverness'
Of course, because it takes high thinking to discuss
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Obama's tax plan basically takes away any
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Easy comeback. But, you know, until Obama takes
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Let's talk again if (and when) he takes cons. advice
NOPE.OBAMA.TAKES.THE.CAKE.
George Bush was a better President on his worst day than Obama has been on his best day. Period. End of song.
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