I wouldn't either. I wasn't going to vote for HC.
Posted By: Go McCain and Palin on 2008-08-29
In Reply to: I'll be happy when I find out more ... sm - Kiki
This is a woman I can be proud of and who I can identify with.
Complete Discussion Below:  marks the location of current message within thread
The messages you are viewing
are archived/old.
To view latest messages and participate in discussions, select
the boards given in left menu
Other related messages found in our database
I wasn't/didnt vote for HC either - sm
and didn't mean to imply that that was why you were backing McCain, but there are a lot of people on both sides that will vote his way now that he has a woman on the ticket and there are people that will vote Obama because he is African American. I think it is ridiculous just to vote for someone for those reasons, regardless of any thing about them, but a lot of people will. Either way, this will be a historic election - We'll either have an African American Pres. or a woman VP.
I don't know enough about her yet and it is too bad she is with McCain, because I really don't like him. I did read somewhere just a minute ago that a while ago she said she had no idea what the VP does (many of us don't), so if Rep. win hopefully she will make some changes to what Cheney has done, or what he hasn't done.
At least now maybe I won't have to hear the #1 Republican anti-Obama slogan of he doesn't have enough experience, but Palin doesn't either.
Let the games begin! 
You wouldn't vote for OBAMA if he walked on water.
It is senseless to talk with far right wingers. It is like talking to a rock. I blame this on the dismal education provided to the U.S. citizens for the last 20 years. Of all the unions, the teacher's union appears to be the strongest, allowing mediocre teachers to remain in their positions regardless of the obvious lack of effective teaching skills.
Bad educations, heavily indebted and unhealthy citizens make poor voters. They become SHEOPLE rather than independent voters. Wave a bible in front of them and the work PROLIFE and they'd vote for a train hopping hobo.
obama won...he wouldn't really because people won't really vote for black and lie to polls
x
McCain wasn't desperate and wasn't behind in the polls
In fact, they have been neck and and neck, and McCain has been gaining in the polls while Obama has been slipping. McCain could have taken the easy way and kept the stable course and picked safer, sure. Instead, he picked a maverick leader like himself, who isn't afraid to get in there and make changes even if it goes against their own party. I believe he wanted to say that the Republicans are the party for change, and wanted to make a bold statement. I've seen statements at "other sites" as well where people are absolutely joyous at this pick.
I agree neither choice is great, but will vote McCain just as a vote against Obama. nm
x
A vote for Ron Paul is a wasted vote. No chance on Earth he can win. sm
Votes for him only take away from the real candidates.
Good point. I don't vote party, I vote for the
person. Every Democrat is not bad and every Republican good or vice versa.
Then you need to vote for Obama. A vote for McCain will...sm
not help you. Obama wants to give tax relief to 90% of Americans who earn 1% of the gross earnings in this country. The top 1% of earners bring in 90% of earnings. Any one person who earns $250,000 or less will benefit from Obama's tax plan.
they didn't vote - they registered to vote -
that is a big difference. The votes were not counted, they were stopped by the means in which they were supposed to be stopped - ID verification, address verification, etc. The cards were filled out by the ACORN workers and then given to the proper authorities to sort through.
The phony registrations were pulled out by the actual authorities. ACORN is just a middle man.
We get what we vote for. If we vote "party", we get extremes.
If we make it a point to try to identify candidates who hold moderate views and vote for them, rather than voting a "party ticket", we'll have a better chance of getting away from these extremes, whether right or left.
One of the problems, though, is that candidates often play games with their real positions. During the primaries, they talk the "party" line and then they move to the center for the general election. Both sides do this, unfortunately.
The only hope is to look at their past records - and take them seriously. History is prologue to the future. When a man has done certain things in his adult life, it tells us more about him than anything he says. If Obama hasn't taught us this fundamental truth, we'll never learn it. The evidence about him goes all the way back to his days in law school, and it was available for anyone to see. Some didn't bother to look. Others looked and didn't take it seriously. Either way, we weren't paying attention or he'd have probably never made it through the primaries.
No one can pull the wool over your eyes unless you let them, and the way they do it is by making smooth speeches filled with unlikely promises (and even glaring contradictions as they appeal to groups with opposite interests). They believe we won't notice the lies, exaggerations and mischaracterizations of their opponent's positions, etc. Unfortunately, they are often right.
Let's start taking the candidates' prior records and their life histories as the best evidence of who they really are - not their speeches. If we do this, we'll make better choices.
I wouldn't want to be on the
O'Reilly Factor either. Bill O'Reilly never lets the people talk. He is always cutting them off to speak his opinion. Kind of annoying really. I am no Obama supporter, but I think as a person in general.....I wouldn't want to be on his show. If people have opposing ideas....fine....but let them talk.....stop talking over them. 
Wouldn't we all??
LOL in regards to Christmas, very few people actually celebrate the *true* meaning anymore. Our neighbor has already put their lights up for heaven's sake!
Do Jews believe that he was crucified? I mean is it up until the resurrection that is disagreed with? Or is that just based on who you are talking to?
I mean my belief is that Jesus died and rose again and he had to die for our sins to pay our sin debt so we can go to heaven. I also believe he is the only way to heaven, because if not then it was senseless for him to die. But I do believe he is coming back and we will be gathered with him and after the tribulation heaven will be here on earth and those who didn't believe will be "ashes under our feet" as the Bible says.
I know that a lot of "Christians" now don't believe all of the Bible, or believe there are errors, which just amazes me, but hey, everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. To me God cannot lie, and if God said the Bible is the Truth, well, it's the Truth then.
I'm sorry if I got heated before. I am a new Christian (I was baptized last November, but I would say I didn't get serious until January) and I knew before that a lot of people are against Christianity (in general) but it amazes me how so many people are just downright hateful about it! I mean yes, I can understand, because there are a lot of hypocritical Christians, a lot of Christians who profess Jesus and then go out into the world and do the same old things they used to, and those were my very same arguments before I believed in Him. But I have met so many more Christians that are just CONCERNED! I mean do people not understand that our belief in Jesus is just as strong as our belief that a chair is really there when we go to sit in it?
I'm ranting again. But what I was discussing with you I am just curious because it seems like Jews and Christians agree on a lot up until the point of whether Jesus was Messiah or not. I guess my biggest question is why don't they believe he is the Messiah?
I wouldn't know.
Since we've never cared enough about the average American to try universal healthcare. We could probably find out how it works from the Iraqis, though, since part of Bush's war budget was to provide comprehensive universal healthcare to THEM.
It's sad that some people are okay with paying for Wall Street crooks to get richer and richer.
We're all about greed, greed, greed. Even with all the publicity about Bush's bailouts, I just heard on the news that the end-of-year bonuses are still in place for the Wall Street crooks.
Seems to me that when a government runs around and buys up banks, that's FASCISM, so if we move to SOCIALISM (which will never happen and which is a ridiculous statement), that move will be a giant step UP from what we have now.
I'm sick and tired of eight years of greed. By the looks of things, the majority of Americans are sick of it, as well, which gives me some hope for what is left of humanity.
Obama is right. "Trickle down" hasn't worked. It's time to try "trickle UP."
Well of course! Why wouldn't I? I, too, am
LOL
I wouldn't be so sure about that
The Catholic heads are really pushing this issue, as are a lot of other Christian leaders. Most people don't like either candidate (like me), but they'd rather vote for the one that settles their conscience.
Add that to the fact that Americans like their guns and McCain has a strong chance. He's really been coming up in the poles (not sure if it'll be enough, though).
You would think so, wouldn't you....sm
or at least grouped by party, which wouldn't really be fair to the minor parties because they would probably wind up on the back of the ticket. I have never used a "punch" voting machine, so I am not familiar with the way that they are read, but wouldn't there be a chance the name punched on the back could be read as being for a candidate that appears on the front of the ballot?
I wouldn't say......... sm
that I'm "un-narrow", DB, because I am probably about as narrow as they come short of those who bomb abortion clinics, etc., but I do understand what you are saying. I appreciate you understanding my point as well.
Wouldn't this have all come up
when his background investigation was done when he was elected Senator? If there was truly a birth certificate issue, I am sure it would have come up during the DSS (Defense Security Service) investigation process.
I wouldn't go that far...lol..(sm)
While Obama is very popular worldwide, he still has to prove himself. I believe he will do an excellent job, but we have a lot of work to do yet.
No, actually they wouldn't do that...(sm)
Keep in mind that Reid was actually trying to stop him from getting into the Senate but couldn't find any legal grounds to do so, and it was both pubs and dems doing the investigation into Blago. Dems don't want him in the senate anymore than the pubs do. From our point of view, he's a has been and can't win an election.
If you want to talk about those all important votes for the stiumulus package, you might want to check out how long pubs have been holding up Franken in Minnesota with court battles. How many times do they plan on counting that vote anyway?
They certainly wouldn't be
let off easy and appointed to a government position. Normal people not paying taxes would not only have to pay their taxes but the interest as well. We would go under. Government wouldn't help us or give us a pass like so many in Washington who haven't paid their taxes. Makes me sick. Such double standards. And they wonder why we don't trust them to run our country and why we don't want government to get bigger than it is. sheesh.
Normally I wouldn't do that, but...(sm)
a good rule of thumb to remember is this: If you're going to try to insult someone's intelligence, then you should at least try to be literate in the process.
Love the definition, BTW.
Of course you don't. They wouldn't put up with you in a
And they tolerate almost everyone.
Why wouldn't it be?
Not trying to argue, but wouldn't any bill the Congress would submit have to be signed by the president? (And then, behind everyone's back, the signing statement "magically" appears after the signing, sometime without anyone knowing unless they specifically looked for it.)
For example, Bush signed the "no torture" bill and then later added, basically, "unless I want to."
Why would this bill be any different? Again, not trying to argue. I'm just trying to learn the difference between those two examples and what I'm missing here.
Why wouldn't you?
??
They wouldn't be any better if they were
X
And owning a gun wouldn't have help either one of them.
That's the point.
Wouldn't suprise me none.nm
x
You wouldn't be someone AKA DixieDew, are you? If so,
x
Wouldn't surprise me if he still is.
Nothing the Bush administration does surprises me any more.
It wouldn't matter what we said.
Their reaction would be the same. I suppose I could have raged against a thousand perceived wrongs, assumed that everyone knew my history, and called a poster who dared to question -what makes you think we haven't- as some kind of insensitive heartless slam. The real truth is much deeper and darker than that. I am not quite sure why people choose to tell their deepest darkest secrets on chat boards. Is it so that later on, someone might forget something they never knew, in order to attack that person with out of control fury, as some on this board are wont to do. Of course, my sympathy goes out ot anyone who loses a loved one NO MATTER WHERE THEY WERE WHEN THEY DIED. But perhaps my sympathy should be more reserved for those who feel the need to constantly attack, denigrate, misinterpret (deliberately?), hound, and judge those who challenge an ideal. Having said that, I find some on here who post disturbed. Merry Christmas to all. My last post here. If anyone cares to respond, I will not see it.
I wouldn't worry about it
Honestly, I think the last thing he needs to worry about is Hillary. I doubt he will get into the White House to begin with. The Rethugs will do anything to put a stop to that. I think they are the bigger threat in this picture.
No I don't. But it wouldn't make me any less of a
"real woman" if I did. Just curious here, are you male or female?
i wouldn't go down that road
When you start knocking down spouses, but especially children, of politicians that's pretty low. Not all families "look similar". My BIL was not his father's son, but he claims he looks the most like his father. There is a definite non-resemblance there but he doesn't see it.
As for Chelsea? Oh please, I've heard her speak and she is too infatuated with her mother and how great she thinks her mother is she doesn't understnad the issues, and she doesn't sound all too intelligent. Makes me wonder where that education money went her parents spent on her education.
I think McCain's daughter is a pretty and doesn't look "challenged" as you call it, but to start commenting on who you think is pretty or not pretty or whose hair color is nice or not nice. I woun't go down that road, cos we could really get into Hillary's hair color and others.
Wouldn't be the first time he has
nm
I wouldn't want my 15-yr-old granddaughter going to
.
Get in that last word! Wouldn't want you to
Sam's a republican through-&-through. Wouldn't be
All that trumpting of his own virtue & intelligence and all. He doesn't seem to get it that NOBODY reading this forum, no matter what candidate they believe in, is going to change their point of view based on what they read here. And most CERTAINLY not because of anything the oh-so-self-important, omnipotent (or maybe IMpotent?) Sam has written here.
And who wouldn't? She's an embarrassment
x
Wouldn't it be cool if you could get EVERY
to BOYCOTT the election and NOT VOTE AT ALL. PERIOD.
Hold the election for ransom, and our demand would be to STOP THE 'BAIL-OUT', and just let nature take its course with the death of Wall Street.
Well you wouldn't want Obama then, right????
xx
You wouldn't know a fact if it came up
According to Revelations 21:8, there is a special place in hell for liars:
"But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
Wouldn't it be great.......
to have all these wonderful things -- healthcare, food, clothing, housing, heat/air, transportation, all without paying for it. FREE is great! Now, how do you pay for it?
We wouldn't think of it. You are wasting enough
nm
I wouldn't necessarily believe
the polls they are reporting anyway, all over the board, and I believe they are manipulating the whole election.
Big businesses........well they wouldn't have to
if we'd stop taxing the crap out of them. This country taxes the crap out of businesses at an alarming rate, when they can go to places like Ireland and have an 11% tax rate. They go to other countries where they don't have to pay those ridiculous taxes. That's the entire problem here. MORE TAXES! Those companies that do stay here, in order to cover their HIGH TAXES, charge you more to cover it for them. That's the point some of us have been trying to make. Obama wants to raise their taxes and I can guarantee you those that are still here will be gone in a flash. YOu get stuck on this big business hiring cheap labor. Well, they would be hiring you if your government would stop taxing the crap out of them.
That's what McCain has said during this entire campaign. STOP TAXING THE CRAP OUT OF THEM and stop running them off and we'll have more jobs brought back here. OBama says TAX TAX TAX them some more and they'll help pay for all of us. BULL!!! Those corporations won't pay him taxes. They up the cost of products and we pay it for them. Obama knows that. This man is a crook through and through....believe what you want. You darn right businesses want huge tax breaks? Wouldn't you? Oh well, maybe not. After all, O lovers love more taxes.
If you're so worried about the little guy who pays too much for his goods, then why not ask Obama why he wants to raise taxes on those very businesses who will turn right around and put them off on you, making everything you buy even higher!
And since you're so down on the big businesses, though I'm not sure what you call big business, who do you think hires everyone else? Poor people? You won't have to worry about the unemployment rate if O gets in there. He'll have taxed and mandated them right out of business and out of this country. The businesses that WILL be hurt are the very businesses you count on day to day and you don't even know who they are. I do. My husband works for one of them. They don't have a big name but they are the very reason you have your grocery store shelves with food on them and many other products. People that think like you don't have a clue all the businesses you use every day that are NOT rich, but they help sustain the very community you live in. They can employ anywhere from 10-200 people and believe me, that is NOT a RICH business but Obama will tax the businesses right out of business. They cannot afford all those mandates and garbage policies he wants to throw in there.
The florist in your town. Well, they're gonna close. They would fall into that MEAN RICH BUNCH all of you hate so much, as well as so many other companies you depend on every day. You've just got your mind so focused on the hugely large corporations, you can't see past that.
Well, when your town starts laying off hundreds at a time from all those businesses you thought you detested but then realize too late those aren't the ones you were thinking about, maybe you'll see it differently then.
Everyone is so focused on all the Wall Street crowd, they have failed to realize that crowd won't be hurting at all. You will and all those businesses that keep you and your community alive and well.
This is the fault of dems and republicans alike, not just one side.
You want to talk shafted, just wait till your local A/C guy can't even run his business because Obama has deemed him "RICH".
Did she think they wouldn't figure it out????
http://kdka.com/local/attack.McCain.Bloomfield.2.847628.html
Wouldn't it be nice
if we had candidates who could be held to a higher standard? I hear nothing about GWBs DUIs and his irresponsibility. Just a bit of balance. And what about McCain's admission to being a womanizer?
He wouldn't pass the
security clearance for the secret service either for that matter. Would he even pass the clearance to be a local police officer?
No. If he was so confident he wouldn't have
to sell himself. What a waste of money not to mention time. Maybe he should have given some of that money to his poor aunt in Boston who lives in a rundown neighborhood or his half-brother in Africa who lives in a hut. What an elitist, arrogant bast**d.
wouldn't that be nice
to have an impact on even one classmate and in return they would share with their parents? Thank you for sharing.
|
