I was not trying to commit

Posted By: Trigger Happy on 2009-04-04
In Reply to: That's not twisting and spinning...(sm) - Just the big bad

political genocide. I am just sick and tired of the same old rhetoric from you. It would be nice if people would hold both political parties accountable instead of turning a blind eye when it comes to their own party. I'm tired of both the liberal loons and the right-wing nut jobs.

If you are going to complain about Bush's spending, you have to acknowledges Obama's spending. If you are going to complain about the war in Iraq, acknowledge that Obama is still going to leave troops over there and isn't pulling out like he promised and now he is putting more troops in Afghan.

If you are going to complain about pork barrel spending, you need to acknowledge that Obama said he would not sign any bill with pork in it only to turn around and sign it anyway.

If you are going to complain about crooked pubs in politics, you need to acknowledge all the crooked dems as well because there are plenty.

But all we hear from you is that Obama is the best thing since sliced bread and Bush is to blame for everything. It just really gets old.

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Check this out.............. sm - m
- First there's the IPOD incident - me
  - Maybe you should consider jumping into this century...nm - Just the big bad
    - Maybe you should consider jumping into reality - me
      - Well, criminetly - Mythbuster
      - Maybe she wanted an Ipod? LOL...sm - Just the big bad
        Right - LOL Guess she wanted one for both hands. - me
        Still low class - me
        It's not low class to give a gift...(sm) - Just the big bad
        Can someone please - Trigger Happy
        "Cyanide in the kool-aid?"....sm - Just the big bad
        Always twisting and spinning - Trigger Happy
        That's not twisting and spinning...(sm) - Just the big bad
        I was not trying to commit - Trigger Happy
        Hmmm......(sm) - Just the big bad
        I do believe that it was voted - Trigger Happy
        Executive travel - Mythbuster
        The real test - Mythbuster
        I think he would handle it just fine...(sm) - Just the big bad
        Brains is one thing. - Oh please.
        Hey - Patty
        Oh, so clever. And I suggest - Nickname
        Grasping at straws aren't ya - me
      - And also - me
- Protocol, etiquette (and plain good sense) - Mythbuster
  - Wrong! If you had seen the entire video, you ....sm - oldtimer
    - Gee....I guess I didn't realize - Trigger Happy
    - The video I saw - Mythbuster
      - Excellent post and observation - me
        Great! Now I can't get out of my mind the idea - Mythbuster
      - This article says the Queen initiated contact - - Amanda
        And this article says different - uhhhhhh
        Hmmmm.... - Mythbuster
        I read another article about this and it said -= - Amanda
    - Sorry - we didn't elect him to bow to the leader of another country - me
      - We (as in probably not you) elected him....(sm) - Just the big bad
        He is not restoring credibility to the US - me
    - Obama is doing an awesome job!!!! - Just the big bad
      - I cannot figure what ever caused you to - MTfromLA
      - Agree with you about the - A.Nonymous
      - Perception and spin are so interesting - Mythbuster
        I would agree that Bush was very...(sm) - Just the big bad
        So, you are also drinking the MSNBC - koolaid? -not even a legit network.nm
        There's no difference in what was in there before - uhhhhhh
        Must point out misattribution of quote - Mythbuster
        That's right - I was referring to him - uhhhhhh
      - Not...he comes back an embarrassment - me
        Yes, Obama IS an embarrassment. - It is only going to get worse, unfortunately.nm
        ROFL.....(sm) - Just the big bad
        It is funny how you always - Trigger Happy
        HA! - Mythbuster
        I did change the channel -seeing the dislike - me

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Yes, you skirted the issue. He DID commit a crime.
Yep, we agree to disgree. Him lying under oath was totally on HIM, and THAT is the real issue. He could have told the truth at any time and avoided the impeachment hearings and the whole thing. He could have taken the wind out of any investigation, if he had just told the truth. It would have gone away. If sex with a 21-year-old girl in the White House where he and his wife and daughter lived was no big deal, why did he just not own up to it? Because he is a coward and morally bankrupt would be my guess. For whatever reason, he chose not to. No one twisted his arm behind his back and made him perjure himself. He did that all by his lonesome. While I find what he did with Monica Lewinsky tasteless at a minimum, and stupid at a maximum, that is not the most objectionable thing I find about him. The fact that he committed a felony, something you or I would go to jail for and there are people in jail for today...sorry, you defend him if you like, and continue to give him a pass. That is the part of the value system, his and his party's, that baffles me.

None of the top tier of Democratic candidates will commit...
to having the troops out of Iraq during their 4 years. I know some of you have posted that you would not vote for Hillary for that reason. What if she is the candidate? Second question...if none of them are going to end the war immediately and that seems to be a major issue for most of you...I assume you are going to vote for one of them anyway...whichever one gets the nomination?