I was a little surprised at the "snotsdale" remark
Posted By: Stardustst on 2008-11-19
In Reply to: hope i was not misunderstood - cj
since I live in Arizona. I don't live in Scottsdale but have been there. Nice town with nice residents. Great shopping and restaurants too.
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Not surprised at all. Scary, but not surprised.
God help us all get through the next three years.
I'm surprised that you're surprised.
You really thought voting for the O was going to produce a miracle, that things were going to be different? Better, maybe? Wow.
Not surprised at all by the violence. Only surprised
People are p****d, especially the middle class. They can't bend much further without snapping. My prediction is that if the US gov'mt. keeps letting all the bank and stockmarket criminals off with just a slap on the wrist, eventually the public is going to take matters into its own hands. If I were that guy who bilked people out of millions in that Ponzi scheme, I'd be very, very afraid. He should be in jail if for no other reason than his own protection. I'm willing to bet that in the coming year or two, all sorts of s**t is going to start hitting the proverbial fan.
Was that a racial remark!!!!!
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Such an intelligent remark from
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Boy, is that a laughable remark, *the
Fox News! And you claim to be unbiased! You knew you were never unbiased. Even the *regular news* have now admitted they were in favor of Obama during the campaign, as if it was not evident!
Is that why YOU remark on everyone's post?
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Did you see Hilton's remark about
No wonder people think she may have lost her crown. Hilton wanted called her a Bi***, but he really wanted to say the "C" word. His video was shown on CNN. This guy needs to go. Who are the idiots who wanted Hilton for a judge anyway? THERE ARE JERKS!!!!
What an asinine remark..........
You have been obviously fed such asinine statements and propaganda by those around you that you were NEVER taught that Martin Luther King WAS A REPUBLICAN!!! Now, pick your mouth up off the floor and get over your racism crap. MLK knew all along what the true agenda of democrats have been all along and that was to keep them from EVER having civil rights... one document after another proves that.
You need to get your head out of a hole and do your homework!! MLK would be ashamed of the democrats.... he was never for any of this garbage they are dumping on the American people. He would know exactly who would pay the price and why....he was FOR freedom, which is why he stood with the Republican party!! CLUELESS!!
I take back the whining remark. sm
I will replace it with pitiful.
black prez remark
My, how classy. That so-called retardate graduated Yale & Harvard. Now who's retarded? Bill Clinton is plenty of things, too, but stupid, retarded, etc. are things that I've never heard a conservative say...ever.
I'll let Chris Rock lie in the gutter with his money and his filthy mouth.
Class always speaks for itself.
There you go - another disgusting liberal remark
especially when this post wasn't directed towards you. You really need to keep your negative, nasty, cruel and disgusting remarks to yourself. Nobody is interested in your puney little snide remarks.
Here is a poignant remark by a black man...
Posted by: Matt | Apr 8, 2008 4:55:32 PM
Settle down - I was just poking fun at your remark.
Chill, chick. Seriously.
I was just commiserating with you and your 'names I've been called' remark. I don't take anything personally on this board. Why would I? And why would you?
You do realize what "LOL" means, right?
I don't know why you flew off the handle like that.
Maybe you need to take a few minutes away from the MB to just go out and enjoy life and get a little perspective.
Thank you for your intelligent, logical remark...par for the course
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Whether or not we are personally offended by his remark,
I think most can agree that it falls under that old catch-all phrase 'poor judgment.' I think much of his first 60 days has fit that category, I'm anticipating many more examples of it in the next four years. This is what happens when the man wanders too far from TelePrompTer and handlers.
Bush was considered a cowboy, Palin a hick, and both would have been publicly eviscerated by the big-3 networks for such a blunder - yet another example of their ineptness. Obama has been characterized as so smooth and sophisticated, and this is considered a simple 'off-the-cuff remark' or a harmless misspeak.
Should we all stop being weenies who are wounded by carelessly offensive remarks? Sure. I just would like an end to the double standard.
Idiotic remark from Barbara Bush
What a stupid remark from Barbara Bush. That whole family lacks compassion. Unbelieveable.
Barbara Bush: Things Working Out Very Well for Poor Evacuees from New Orleans
By E&P Staff
Published: September 05, 2005 7:25 PM ET updated 8:00 PM
NEW YORK Accompanying her husband, former President George H.W.Bush, on a tour of hurricane relief centers in Houston, Barbara Bush said today, referring to the poor who had lost everything back home and evacuated, This is working very well for them.
The former First Lady's remarks were aired this evening on National Public Radio's Marketplace program.
She was part of a group in Houston today at the Astrodome that included her husband and former President Bill Clinton, who were chosen by her son, the current president, to head fundraising efforts for the recovery. Sen. Hilary Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama were also present.
In a segment at the top of the show on the surge of evacuees to the Texas city, Barbara Bush said: Almost everyone I’ve talked to says we're going to move to Houston.
Then she added: What I’m hearing is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality.
And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this--this (she chuckles slightly) is working very well for them.
E&P Staff (letters@editorandpublisher.com)
OMG! What a ridiculous remark from....but that wasn't my point..sm
Thank God, tomorrow it will all be over.
And that was a crude, ignorant, presumptuous, pompous remark.....sm
which seems to abound with many on the right who are on the defensive regarding our situation, how we got here (hello, why weren't you screaming at Bush during two administrations as we all crashed and burned and thousands of lives were being lost in Iraq, an illegal, immoral, opportunistic war)??? You know absolutely NOTHING about me, my past, or my politics so please get some class and intelligence, frivolous, mindless attacks are soooooo overdone.
And that was a crude, ignorant, presumptuous, pompous remark.....sm
which seems to abound with many on the right who are on the defensive regarding our situation, how we got here (hello, why weren't you screaming at Bush during two administrations as we all crashed and burned and thousands of lives were being lost in Iraq, an illegal, immoral, opportunistic war)??? You know absolutely NOTHING about me, my past, or my politics so please get some class and intelligence, frivolous, mindless attacks are soooooo overdone.
I speak English very well thank you, and the nasty little remark you made
regarding the usage of 'ebonics' and other insulting comments you have made is totally unwarranted and again a cowardly and racist stereotype you do not seem to have a problem posting on this board. You have repeatedly insulted many who post on this board with your racist bigoted rants and it is sickening. Yes, I am a black woman but more importantly I am an American and ALL people matter to me, regardless of party lines or color - not just a select few because we are all in this TOGETHER. But I am glad you have exposed yourself regarding your thoughts - just proves to many here that your bigotry, predjudice and hatred of people different from you definitely casts you in a light that is not flattering at all.
I speak English very well thank you, and the nasty little remark you made
regarding the usage of 'ebonics' and other insulting comments you have made is totally unwarranted and again a cowardly and racist stereotype you do not seem to have a problem posting on this board. You have repeatedly insulted many who post on this board with your racist bigoted rants and it is sickening. Yes, I am a black woman but more importantly I am an American and ALL people matter to me, regardless of party lines or color - not just a select few because we are all in this TOGETHER. But I am glad you have exposed yourself regarding your thoughts - just proves to many here that your bigotry, predjudice and hatred of people different from you definitely casts you in a light that is not flattering at all.
your remark is totally obsolete, low-class, belligerent ..sm
and not even worth reading, let alone answering.
Follow the example of Senator MrCain, a truly decent loser.
His today's statement made me respect him a lot!
Stop your imbecile tit-for-tat and choose a user name you coward!
it appears you lost your opinion or you wouldn't feel the need to remark on mine....nm
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Yes, I just bet you are surprised. nm
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Thank you! I'm not a bit surprised
unfortunately. 
Why am I not surprised?
Is anyone really surprised
by the ***leak*** of the NIE document. I remember Bob Graham, senator from my state, Florida, standing on the floor of congress and predicting this almost verbatim. Many of us agreed with him. Many who did not have changed their minds over the years. I don't find any of this **breaking news.**
Now, why am I not surprised?
But as a self-professed "Bush fan", I would expect nothing less.
Are you surprised? sm
Just more of O's "transparent" tactics. When the questions get tough, he hides behind his standard "I had no idea that was going on" statement.
I was always taught and have always believed that you are known by the company you keep. All of his associates, past and present, have been crooks, liars, bomb builders and just basic scum bags.
I would be surprised if it did.
At this point, the House Repubs need to propose a new bill, since the old one was too unpopular for even the Dems to sell to their constituency.
But the Dems have to save face by not letting the Repubs get credit for putting together a more favorable bill.
I suspect in the end it will be a bill quite similar to the one already voted down, with a few more consessions in the taxpayers' favor.
Of course, both sides will take credit.
Both sides will blame the other for the crisis in the first place.
And both will be corret.
Why am I not surprised
www.BlackBoxVoting.org
Also, watch the DVD "Uncounted" -- a real eye-opener.
The link below is to one of the Blackboxvoting forums
Ha ha! Why am I not surprised?!
If nothing else, this election campaign sure has been ENTERTAINING!
I'm not surprised
to hear you bring God into it. You're who Julian Jaynes was talking about when he talked about the unevolved faction of humanity, the ones who have to have literal interpretations of the Bible because they have an under-developed consciousness and have to recreate the "voice of the chief."
If Jesus knew about the offensive slime you spew, he would never stop puking.
And by the way, Obama has said a number of times that he will stop giving tax breaks to companies that offshore.
I, for one, am not surprised by this...sm
I always thought that Obama was a socialist, about two steps from being a marxist, on his way to being a communist.
If true, this goes to show exactly who and what Obama is about.
Chilling, indeed. No wonder I can't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. Whenever he's questioned on certain issues, he's too busy trying to sound like not what he is, but still fails miserably.
He sounds like someone hiding something, and it's not pretty.
I'm not surprised
you envision and embrace the negative extreme of everything, given the whole fire & brimstone thing. Good grief. It must be miserable being locked inside that kind of paranoia. You have my sympathy.
I would be surprised
if you had not heard at least a few names on this list, which is, by no means, exhaustive.
Many of the most famous serial killers (e.g., Jeffrey Dahmer, Andrew Cunanan, John Wayne Gacy, Henry Lee Lucas, Ottis Toole, etc.) were homosexuals, but they became widely known due to the nature of their crimes or the identities of their victims, not because they in any way represent serial killers generally.
To name a few:
Gay/Homosexual Serial Killers
Name # of People
Killed Year Killer's Home Location of Murders Notes Birth death
Jeffrey Dahmer 17 1978, 1988-91 Milwaukee Milwaukee and Chicago homosexual cannibal. He was killed by another inmate while in prison. 21 May 1960 28 November 1994
Andrew Cunanan 5 1997 San Diego, Calif. Minnesota; Chicago, IL; South Beach, FL killed fashion designer Gianni Versace 31 August 1969 23 July 1997
Gilles DE Rais 300+ 1430s France France associate of Joan of Arc
Luis Alfredo Garavito 140+ Colombia Colombia Gay serial killer who murdered over 140 boys in Columbia. 25 January 1957
Randy Steven Kraft 65 (est.) 1971 to 1983 Oregon, Michigan, etc. "Score Card Killer"
Michael Swango 35 - 60 1983-97 Ohio, Illinois, New York, South Dakota, Virginia "Doctor of Death" -- killed hospital patients
Andrei Chikatilo 52 until 1992 Russia Russia
Fritz Haarmann 40 (est.) until 1924 Germany Germany "Butcher Of Hanover"
John Wayne Gacy 33 until 1978 Chicago Chicago bisexual; 27 of his victims (young boys he seduced) were found buried in crawlspace under his house. Executed in Joliet, IL. 17 March 1942 10 May 1994
Patrick Wayne Kearney 28+ 1968 to 1977 Redondo Beach, Calif. gay cruising areas of Hollywood
David D. Hill 28? 1968 to 1977 Redondo Beach, Calif. Hollywood Patrick Kearney's lover; confessed to being co-killer with Kearney, but police weren't sure about the extent of his involvement
Hans Grans 27+ until 1924 Germany Germany accommplice and love of Haarmann, the "Butcher Of Hanover"
Wayne Williams 27 1979-81 Atlanta Atlanta Gay serial killer who preyed mostly on young black male hustlers. 27 May 1958
Dean Corll 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX Houston, Texas
Elmer Wayne Henley 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX Houston, Texas Bisexual. Victims were young boys who he kidnapped and tortured. 9 May 1956
David Owen Brooks 27 1960s to 1973 Ft. Wayne, Indiana; later Houston, TX Houston, Texas
Donald Harvey 25 - 40 (est.) 1970-71 London, Kentucky Kentucky
Juan Corona 25 1971 From Mexico; moved to Yuba City, CA in 1950s Yuba City, Calif. Born in Mexico. All of his victims were men that he first raped, and then killed with a machete over the span of six weeks. Presently resides in Corcoran State Prison. Juan Corona's brother is Natividad, the gay, owner of the Guadalajara cafe in Marysville, CA. 1934
Adolfo de Jesus Constanzo 21 (est.) until 1989 Matamoros, Mexico Matamoros, Mexico "Matamoros Cult Killer"
Larry Eyler 19 1980s Chicago Illinois and Indiana
Huang Yong 17+ 2001-2003 Henan Province, China Henan Province, China Gay. Executed. Murdered boys that he flirted with and picked up at internet cafes. Saved their belts as souvenirs. His 18th victim escaped, leading to his arrest. 1974 26 December 2003
Dennis Nilsen 16 1978-83 U.K. U.K.
Marcelo Costa de Andrade 14 until 1991 Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
William Bonin 12+ 1979-80 Orange County, Calif. Orange County, Calif.
Henry Lee Lucas 12+ 1970s and 80s Most in Texas, Southeastern U.S. 23 August 1936 12 March 2001
Ottis Toole 12+ 1970s and 80s West Coast, Florida, etc. accomplice of Henry Lee Lucas
Vaughn Greenwood 11+ 1974-75 Los Angeles Los Angeles
Richard Speck 8+ 1966 Chicago Chicago married, bisexual
Cayetano Hernandez 8 1963 Yerba Buena, Mexico Mexico
Eleazor Solis 8 1963 Monterey, Mexico Mexico
David Bullock 6+ 1981-82 New York City New York
Vernon Butts 6+ 1979-80 Calif. Orange County, Calif. accomplice of William Bonin
Paul Bateson 6 ? (est.) 1977-78 New York City New York City
Marc Dutroux 6 1995-1996 Belgium Belgium Bisexual. He is unusual among gay serial killers, in that his victims were all girls, who he kidnapped and tortured before killing. One of most notorious serial killers in Belgium's history. 6 November 1956
Michael Terry 6 1980-86 Atlanta Georgia, Ohio, South Carolina
Orville Lynn Majors 6 Indiana Vermillion County Hospital, Indiana
Charles Cohen 5+ Delaware Delaware, San Francisco, New York, Miami, and New Orleans
Arthur Gary Bishop 5 1984 Utah Utah Utah serial killer of young boys. Years before his murder spree, in 1978, he had been excommunicated from the LDS Church. Bishop was an active homosexual and was no longer a member of the LDS Church when he became a serial killer. Executed in Utah State Prison. He said of his crimes, "With great sadness and remorse, I realize that I allowed myself to be misled by Satan. Pornography was not the only negative influence in my life, but its effect on me was devastating. I am a homosexual pedophile convicted of murder, and pornography was a determining factor in my downfall." 1951 10 June 1988
Michael Lupo 4+ 1986 from Italy London
Peter Moore 4 1995 north Wales north Wales
Westley Allan Dodd 3+ Washingon Washington, Oregon
David P. Brown
(a.k.a. Nathaniel Bar-Jonah) 3+ 2000 Massachusetts Montana David Paul Brown. Victims were all young boys. 15 February 1957
Charles Manson 3+ 1968-72 Los Angeles Los Angeles Bisexual. One of nation's most famous serial killers. Murdered actress Sharon Tate, the wife of film director Roman Polanski. Deeply interested in the occult. 12 November 1934
David Edward Maust 5+ 1981; 2003 Germany; Galveston, TX (1981); Hammond, IL (2003) Gay. Killed teenage boys, usually by stabbing 5 April 1954
Bruce Davis 2+ 1968-72 Los Angeles Los Angeles Charles Manson accomplice
Erik Menendez 2 20 August 1989 Beverly Hills, CA Beverly Hills, CA with his straight brother Lyle, Erik killed his parents (Jose Menendez and Kitty Menendez). Their trial was a major national news story. 27 November 1971
Although homosexual murderers of single victims are too numerous to list here, a number of particularly famous ones include: Nathan Leopold and Richard Loeb (the wealthy and academically bright gay Chicago couple who murdered a boy in 1924 just for fun; their story became one of the nation's most famous murder cases, and was the basis for many movies, including Hitchcock's film "Rope"); Armin Meiwes (the sexually deviant German cannibal known as "Der Metzgermeister" - The Master Butcher, who met a victim over the Internet who he ate and killed); John E. du Pont (the gay member of the wealthy du Pont famil who shot Olympic wrestler David Schultz to death); Gary Hirte (Waupaca, WI high school senior who admitted to killing 37-year-old substitute teacher Glenn Kopitske); Karla Homolka (Canadian lesbian who murdered her own sister). Other notable gay violent criminals include Kenneth Parnell (paid $500 to "purchase" a young black boy named Steven Stayner, who he then raped and kidnapped); John Wojtowicz (whose bank robbery inspired the movie Dog Day Afternoon).
Serial Killers who were Lesbians
Name # of People
Killed Year Killer's Home Location of Murders Notes
Magdalena Solis 8 1963 Monterey, Mexico Mexico
Aileen Wuornos 7+ 1989-90 south of Daytona, Florida Florida killed male "johns"
Tyria Moore 7+ 1989-90 south of Daytona, Florida Florida killed male "johns"
Catherine Wood 6 Grand Rapids, MI Grand Rapids, MI nurse who killed patients
Gwen Graham 6 Grand Rapids, MI Grand Rapids, MI nurse who killed patients
Why am I not surprised...(sm)
The pub way of thinking on this is to go ahead and let those workers lose their jobs, then save the auto industry, and then they can hire back those workers or others without any job security, benefits, etc...
Under republican rule, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer (and that obviously hasn't worked out so well). So, who on this board is getting richer, and if you are getting poorer, can you really afford (financially) to be republican?
Why am I not surprised...(sm)
The pub way of thinking on this is to go ahead and let those workers lose their jobs, then save the auto industry, and then they can hire back those workers or others without any job security, benefits, etc...
Under republican rule, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer (and that obviously hasn't worked out so well). So, who on this board is getting richer, and if you are getting poorer, can you really afford (financially) to be republican?
Yes, it surprised me.
Normally, equality (except for Fox) and sense in her posts.
Can't say I'm surprised........... sm
but I do find it a little ridiculous that they would come down on a Bible study group and not the men's Monday night footbal groups or poker night groups or Cub Scout meetings, etc. This is but one more sad example of how our rights are being stripped away little by little. And before anyone says that Christians should meet in churches only, I would ask what will you do when your rights as a citizen are infringed upon?
You would be surprised how much of what you have said I agree with.
Why surprised that he owns a gun? sm
For a long time, the deep south was largely Democrat and everyone there owns a gun. Al Gore hunts. So does John Kerry.
I should not be surprised by your response. sm
But I have to admit it sickens me more than a little. People like Ward Chamberlain, who has not been found to be a plagiarist, a liar (he is NOT Native American) and he made up his service record, among other things, don't deserve to be defended. Unless you are a socialist and have no problem with liars and thieves. I guess that says it all.
Surprised, but not disappointed
I was a little surprised with the outcome, especially Edward's finish, not at all what I expected. I would be happy with an Obama or a Clinton nomination.
I haven't paid much attention to the republican candidates, yet, but as things progress, you can bet I'll be watching.
Thank you kindly. I was surprised...
by last nght's media coverage of this same debate, particularly with regard to Whoopi and company on The View. Even the most adept of media hate-mongers were relatively civil and talk show guests seemed to be exhibiting an unusual degree of sensitivity.
Whoopi's statement about how the blacks have "taken the word back" from those who would use it to inflict pain was in line with what I was trying to convey. However, equally as impressive was the response by Elisabeth Hasselbeck, a young woman born the same year as my own son (1977), in the post civil rights generation who never really experienced the struggles I described in the previous post.
She was obviously genuinely confused and in real pain as she contributed to the conversation. I find myself haunted by her question regarding "how do we explain this controversy" to our children?" As a soon-to-be senior, I have trouble putting myself in the position of having learned about the civil rights movements from some civics or history text book.
On the one hand, I find myself believing that it is very important to pass this awareness down through the generations that follow us. But when I see that kind of pain in a young woman who is obviously trying her best to understand these issues, I have to wonder if there will come a day when we should try to leave it all behind us and lay it to rest.
I am inclined to believe that for as long as this job remains unfinished (the elimination of discrimination and sustained equality for all Americans in all spheres), it is important that we do not forget, but I am biased because those were MY "good ole days". Some Boomers still take a great deal of pride in having been a part of such vital social change as was accomplished during the 60s and 70s, while others among us seem to have forgotten where they came from, having sold out principles for profits.
In any case, I would be interested in any feedback in this regard, especially from those who learned about my hey days in a history lesson.
surprised to see Mc admit
that the US tortured prisoners. He said we won't ever torture prisoners AGAIN. He stood around and allowed that to happen -- he the man who wants all to remember his pow experience?
I am surprised! You went to Church?....
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I admit I am surprised at your age.
I think the majority of the older people realize what is coming. "Conspiracy" isn't exactly such a bad word for it.
I'm really surprised in Ohio...
I figured Brown would vote yes, but am surprised Voinovich voted no - he's very much a RINO. I guess he figures he's got nothing to lose now that he's decided not to run for reelection.
Not surprised! How depressing
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