I too think it was a PERSONAL matter. It's unfortunate that the

• net address, not link - gt
  • If I wanted to see a vulgar hand gesture - Reality check
    • Difference - GT
      • Well, how did you feel about Clinton - Reality check
        • Is Clinton your only defence for Bush? - Democrat
          • Nope, how about Lyndon Johnson and the Gulf of Tonkien? nm - sm
            • Pretty weak - Johnson was a product of Texas politics, - Zauber
              • What does that have to do with the great lie that perpetuated 58,000 plus American deaths? ..... - Yeppers
                • Not really that hard to grasp. - Zauber
                  • I already know about the incident.... - Yeppers
                    • Hmm:) I'm the one who spelled it correctly... - Zauber
                      • You skated around it and then posted a cut and pasted story..... - Yeppers
                        • Why do those who call others dumb object so much... - Zauber
            • How about anger management? sm - Democrat
              • You asked a question, I answered it. I'm not sure what you want. nm - sm
        • lying in office - gt
          • I too think it was a PERSONAL matter. It's unfortunate that the - Democrat
            • So you have no problem that he put his hand on a Bible and lied under oath? nm - sm
              • Yes I do. see my post below. nm - Democrat
              • Any problem with 300,000 dead due to another lie? - Zauber
                • Did someone mention anger control.... - Yeppers
                  • Have a habit of hanging around grassy knolls? - Zauber
                    • Not into conspiracy theories.... - Yeppers
              • YES, I do, BUT I don't think he should have been in sm - Democrat
          • So lying is okay when it benefits your side - Reality check
            • Yes, Clinton lied, and I - PK
              • Clinton/Bush - Reality Check
                • check article above - saturday morning
                • Nobody justifies lying like the Right. - Zauber
                  • You GOT to feel better gettin' all that out of your system. Whew doggies! .... - Yeppers
                    • Patronizing fake concern for the doggies. - Zauber
                      • I could take a lesson from you in cut and paste perhaps.... - Yeppers
                  • Zauber - Reality Check
                    • Oh, blow off with yourself - Zauber
                      • If you weren't so unhinged and WRONG - Reality check
                      • You have about as much insight into the conservative party as you have into your severe anger issues - Yeppers
              • Clinton/Bush - Reality Check
                • Sorry for the double post (nm) - Reality Check
              • Clinton's Lies - IndependentMT
                • Bill Clinton is no more responsible for 9-11 than..sm - Democrat
                  • Then you haven't been paying attention to Able Danger. sm - sm
                    • One question, does Able Danger prove that Bill Clinton is responsible for 9-11? - Democrat
                      • On the contrary, it indicts the Bush admin... - Zauber
                        • Amazing. nm - sm
                          • Yes, among other words. NM - MT
          • You always forget the phrase *under oath*, which is what lost him his law license sm - sm
            • Oooh, under OATH - Zauber
              • Can you manage to squeeze in one more topic? .... - Yeppers
                • Does your head have a limited capacity? - Zauber
                  • You should know sm - sm
      • High expectations for leaders...nah, Clinton pretty much blew that. No pun intended. nm - sm
        • The Republicans actually blew it, thank you. - Zauber
        • Don't worry - Reality check
        • You forgot to mention FDR, Kennedy and Eisenhower, to name a few... - ??
          • Clinton is a thorn in the republican side...always has been. nm - Democrat
            • Believe it or not, a lot of us old Democrats didn't care for him either. .. - Yeppers
              • "Old democrat," guess that means you are a new republican. sm - Democrat
        • Oh please - gt
          • LOL. I like that...so true...nm - Democrat
          • Spoken by someone who posted about Laura Bush's accident about 40 years ago. sm - sm
          • Hardly ancient history and your response doesn't fly - Reality check
            • yeah but we aren't suppose to reply! nm - sm
    • LOL!!! Oh how true! nm - sm
    • It was link to a news article - gt

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for Democrats regarding the Clinton presidency:  President Reagan's policies worked.  Reaganomics -- which posited and proved that cutting taxes made more money available to the private sector to increase employment, thus increasing the total wages available to be taxed, even at a lower rate -- did increase absolute funding.  And -- through a strong defensive posture that does not back down, the top heavy controlling political systems of the enemies of freedom will finally collapse because of the waste of resources that such a tightly-controlled economy (through the subsequent increase in bureaucrats (who, by there very nature, produce nothing in the economy)) leads to.  Having said that, the following series of events actually have resulted in what you accurately described, but have misapplied cause and effect.  To wit --

Reaganomics resulted in an increase in capital investment which provided jobs, which allowed more citizens to have more disposable income and the government to have more monies available, which the Republican president spent on common causes -- defense of the homeland from belligerent nations, infrastructure repair and increasing resource availability.  This resulted in a surplus of moving capital in the economy and the government coffers.  Some of this was spent on the Gulf War where Bush 41 turned back an aggressive nation from attacking another one (consider Germany rolling over Poland and Western Europe for a similar situation).  Having accepted terms of cease fire we settled into a period of time relatively free of conflict.  Then we changed horses in mid stream and Bill Clinton took office, failed to pursue terrorist organizations, dismantled our spy network, withdrew our support from rebels in Iraq and ignored a growing terrorist threat that we knew little about because he had dismantled our spy network by issuing orders that no CIA agent was to enlist the aid of unsavory characters.  However, anyone a spy agency turned to spy for them is, by definitition, an unsavory character.  So, when Clinton turned his attention to the domestic front (as liberals prefer to do) and ignoring the foreign front (as liberals also prefer to do) he proceeded to spend what was left from the Reagan coffers.  Not going into the 1992 slap Clinton was given for pushing his brand of socialism down America's collective throat, essentially, left George Bush with an enemy which had a blank check for 8 years to do what they wanted without being watched.  We should not be so surprised by 9/11 as it would at first appear.  Following 9/11 and the hunt for bin Laden in Afghanistan, Bush 43 went to war with Iraq.  There has been much discussion about this, but the way I see it is there were three factors that made this war completely justified -- 1) Saddam Hussein had already used WMD in his war with Iran and his suppression of the Kurds; 2) He was a known financial supporter for terrorists worldwide, especially in Israel and 3) what I believe to be the most important one -- the Gulf War was not legally over in that Hussein had never surrendered, he had merely accepted terms for a cease fire.  However, he did not live up to his agreement, so the war had to be restarted. 

In summary, then, republicans watching the foreign front (and I will grant you, ignoring the domestic front, mostly) increased the public coffers; democrats (focusing on the domestic front and ignoring the foreign front) pursued policies that left us blind to foreign intrigue while spending the largesse from the previous administration's more fiscally responsible domestic program which left the next conservative President without good intelligence and with depleted public coffers.  There is so much money going into Washington that the delay between the policies that increase or diminish and the development of the actual increase or depletion can be 4 to 8 years.  That's how I see it.

attacks?  Hippocrite.  (A hippo crossed with a hypocrite). 

insults, are we now?  Did you read Wally Lamb's book "She's Come Unhinged?""  A good read.

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not allowed on this board. Stop immediately.

not allowed on this board.  Stop attacking me personally with your imagining what I have or don't have in my work area.  Stick to the issues.

This has nothing to do with this conversation.  What this person makes and why they make that is none of our business.  The point was that she didn't live beyond her means and doesn't want a handout and that right there makes her a heck of a lot better than a lot of people. 

for an organization operating under the pretense of religion molesting children.  Not only did they do it, they obviously condoned it by hiding the fact.  I must be nice to be a religious -- it's such a blinding experience.  You don't have to see the world as it really is.  You can just make assumptions based on your religion. 

I actually commend you on adopting children.  I do, however, wish more people would adopt children in this country.  I think it's a little bit of a double standard when one would go overseas to find a child to suit their desires and at the same time condemn this country over social issues.

And since you're waiting.....

http://www.adoptuskids.org/Child/ChildSearch.aspx

When you go to this page, don't change the criteria under *child profile* to look for the perfect child, just go to the bottom of the page and hit *search.*  I came up with 3466 children waiting for a home -- and that's just out of one agency.

If a conservative talked about an African-American woman like this we would be called racists and even worse.

If all you have to criticize is her shopping habit then you really have nothing to criticize.

How is this considered effective and balanced political debate?

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You two are....peas in a pod....twins joined at the brain....