I throw it right back at you: Blind, in denial, naive, conservative pub...nm
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GOP Rep Michele Bachmann would like throw us back 60 years
un-American Activities Committee to investigate alleged anti-American sentiments and subversive agendas of House and Senate members. Raise you hand if you want a republican committe to define patriotism, what it means to be an American and to institutionalize punitive measures for people who do not fall in line?
get on back conservative
So, conservative in liberal clothing poster, what is this post supposed to mean? You believe in a god..good for you, I believe in my god too and more power to the ones who dont believe in a god..To each their own..See, that is how liberals believe, to each their own, and by your post you show everyone you are truly not a liberal, you are a false poster, a conservative posting as a liberal..Bye, bye, sweetie..get on back to the conservative board.
get back to the conservative board
LOLOLOLOLOLO, dont like it? Dont read the posts..simple as that, deary. As far as my posts are the worst, LMFAO..You, child, have not visited other political boards as mine are calm compared to others but, **BIG SIGH**, I realize you are one of the three who always come on this board from the conservative one..cant stay on your own board, gotta come here and start trouble..So, to you who posts here all the time, get back to the dinosaur, backward thinking conservative board and leave the liberal board alone..Bye, bye, sweetheart..
Go back to the conservative board
Get off the liberal board, we dont want you here.
Looking back on the liberal conservative board shows you for what you are.
Liar.
Are you really that naive? SM
Cindy Sheehan wants Bush to bring the troops home...NOW. Oh, I forgot, the left doesn't care about the people left behind. We know this how? Can you say Vietnam?
maybe they let the naive
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I am not naive enough to think that this is
just dems. I know that there are a lot of people in our government who have found this loophole and that loophole and aren't paying what they should either. I personally think it wouldn't hurt for all of them to undergo a little investigation just to see who is paying up and who isn't, but that won't happen.
I do have to admit that I get tired of dems wanting to raise taxes when it is the rich that always have loopholes to get out of paying taxes. All that does is hurt the middle class and the lower class.
I personally think that we should get rid of all of these silly deductions and have a flat tax. You made X amount this year and you pay X amount in taxes. No loopholes.....no nothing....that is it....PERIOD.
Not naive at all
but criminally calculating in his agenda to *remake* america in his own image. everything he does (especially where it appears he has not considered the consequences) is a move toward fulfilling this agenda.
he was not naive in releasing the initial memos on gitmo detainee interrogation. these made the previous administration and national security agencies look bad. his decision not to release further details came about because he now realizes how this would boomerang back on him as president, not out of national security concerns.
That comment is very naive. sm
Things are deleted from the Internet all the time. I've even done it, had posted once on a medical site, and went and deleted what I posted a year later....the link was still there, but nothing will link to it.
Obama campaign/backers/DNC have been practicing obfuscation on a daily basis.
Do you think it is just the dems? That is a little naive - nm
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Another thing. And call me naive (sp), but sm
I think there is a big difference in liberal and Democrat. I mean, what happened to the Democrats of long ago? In my neighborhood I have a wonderful old-lady friend who is in her 80s who is the most godliest woman I know. She is just amazing. She said she was born a Democrat and will die a Democrat. A lot of her friends are the same age and they vote Democrat because they are still living ithe days of Kennedy and the "good ole Democrats." You know, the Zell Miller type of Democrat.
I think that liberalism is an extreme sect all on its own. I don't view my neighbor as liberal at all, in fact more conservative if anything, yet she votes Democrat. These are the ones whom I believe are Christians and believe in God, but they are not liberals.
The liberals I knew were the Yale, Harvard or Brown University liberals which my Democratic friend is not.
In fact, if you ask my friend she is adamantly against abortion and homosexual marriage.
If the old Democratic party would return I would probably switch to that party, but you will never see me voting for the liberals who are in office today. Big difference. I think JFK is turning over in his grave over what has happened to his party.
I am always amazed at how naive some people are....s/m
He's doing this to enable his admistration, and Congress, the ability to take this country as far and hard to the left, and as fast as he possibly can.
He has a purpose, and it's not for the good welfare of our country.
It's to put our entire country "ON" welfare, and grow the government. This is a major takeover, and you're right about one thing.
He's as transparent as glass to the rest of us.
And we don't want what he's about to bring us to, to our knees with government control over every aspect of our lives.
At least I have the comfort of knowing I didn't vote for him.
They are this naive. That is the scariest part.
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Obama is criminally naive.
"Upholding our values will protect us from terrorism."
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.bd0713f4765981d1edbe5b522ce08354.3e1&show_article=1
Hello? Wake up, you dipwad. It is precisely our values that terrorists hate.
Umm...and even if they didn't, please explain just who was being waterboarded prior to 9/11, Mr. Obama? Or, putting it more precisely (since we know now from the 9/11 Commission that the attack on that day was in the making long before Bush even took office), just which of the numerous American values that Clinton violated was it that led to that event? Was it the mess on the dress perhaps? Or do ya think it might have been failing to get after bin Laden when he had the chance? Huh?
Your reasoning abilities are so pathetic that they amount to a crime against your office, in fact. You obviously do not know the first thing about either terrorists or terrorism - or else you think we don't.
Impeach Obama now. He is utterly unfit to serve.
Obviously you are so far in denial...
and so set on what you perceive IS the truth and your perception that I do not want to know the truth that you cannot read what is in plain sight. I think that anyone who is not so blinded by hatred can see that if I say I want impeachment so we can ALL indeed know the truth, and somehow you spin THAT into I am terrified at what would come out of those chambers is ludicrous. And the saddest thing about it is that you cannot see how ludicrous it really is.
You should be aiming all this vitriol at this committee holding all these secret meetings instead of holding open hearings. They are the ones who won't impeach. Not MY fault they won't impeach. I WELCOME that. Let's get them all under oath and all this evidence out in the open where we can ALL see it.
Bottom line, anonymous poster....I don't know if he is guilty or not and you don't either. Talk about a a rush to judgment...what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?? You trampled all over that basic American right didn't you? You have already pronounced him guilty. There is not a shred of fair debate in YOU on this subject. That should be crystal clear to anyone who had the time to go through all this mess.
You know, if in your mind when someone says they want impeachment means they are terrified of the truth, if that makes you feel better and validates your line of thinking on this, so be it.
But if you are really serious about all this endless stuff you keep posting, you should be lobbying your congresspeople to impeach so we can put everyone under oath, both sides, give the accused a fair trial (a basic American right) and to face his accusers, and put this mess behind us once and for all. What about that terrifies YOU??? And what about that terrifies THEM?? You have no answer, I'm sure, in your mind me calling for impeachment and not the endless hearing political exercise, the terrified one. Who's on first? LOL...ridiculous.
You never DID answer my question, and that speaks volumes.
'Nuff said. This is a dead thread, Fred. :)
Denial, denial, denial
It's called living in the Land of Oz. I'm embarrassed for y'all, who are too ignorant to do your own research.
Just pitiful socialists. I hope y'all enjoy making less $ next year in the event Obama wins. Run the numbers for yourself. Better yet, run it by your CPA. Yet, all I ever read here is how much less $ everyone makes literally constantly.
It's all emotion. But funny how there's no emotion about aborting a baby on moment's notice.
Shame, shame.
You are in such denial.
the CHANGE come.
your view is naive, short-sighted and simplistic
I don't want to get caught up in a debate here. Americans can buy whatever they want. You are right. But then when your job is gone, don't complain about it because you fed the problem instead of solving it. If you don't support American companies, you are supporting some other economy instead of your own. How can the American economy ever survive if Americans do not support it? There is a bigger picture here, and I believe you are missing it. The failure of the automakers would affect every other business and service in this country, including ours, by a ripple effect. So when you lose your job because the number of hospital and physician visits is reduced since none of them has insurance anymore and no one can afford medical care anymore, remember what you said here. If they fail, we all will lose from it.
Obama is criminally naive. "Upholding our values
Umm...and just who was being waterboarded prior to 9/11, Mr. Obama? Or, putting it more precisely, we know now from the 9/11 Commission that the attack on that day was in the making long before Bush even took office. So which of the numerous values that Clinton violated was it that led to that event?
Pathetic reasoning - a crime against your office, in fact. You obviously do not know the first thing about either terrorists or terrorism - or else you think we don't.
Impeach Obama now. Unfit to serve.
Obama is criminally naive. "Upholding our values
Umm...and just who was being waterboarded prior to 9/11, Mr. Obama? Or, putting it more precisely, we know now from the 9/11 Commission that the attack on that day was in the making long before Bush even took office. So which of the numerous values that Clinton violated was it that led to that event?
Pathetic reasoning - a crime against your office, in fact. You obviously do not know the first thing about either terrorists or terrorism - or else you think we don't.
Impeach Obama now. He is utterly unfit to serve.
Maybe denial is one of his 57 states.
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He's right, we're all in denial
Proactive old-school people lived in a different world. They were raised with different values, that they learned from the small circle of people around them in their families and communities, prior to a media driven society. They had confidence born of being doers and fixers.
Sadly, they're speaking to a hostile audience, as each generation appears to become more apathetic and helpless. Our values have shifted. We consume and dispose, we don't plan and preserve, or heaven forbid, repair or do without. We spend and do not save. We accept and follow blindly whatever we are told. We question nothing, because then we might have to DO something or change. So much easier to go with the flow, wherever it takes us.
We don't want to see cause and effect. We don't want to see it when we are part of the problem. If the struggle to survive doesn't take up all our time, we're so busy obsessing over our looks and possessions (or that of celebrities) we can't be bothered to notice what's wrong, why its wrong, and what to do about it. Fads and entertainment are all we appear enthused about. We don't know why we're in a war, and we don't really care. We don't know why the bank just sent us more fine print in the mail, we'll just shrug and pay the higher charges, OK, whatever. We don't know why so many things are spiraling out of control, we'll just go back to our TV and assume there's nothing we can do about it.
Sure, it would be great if we could find a hero to fix it all for us. As long as that hero didn't ask us to change. The possibility that you or I could be that hero is just not going to cross our minds. Meanwhile, we'll accept whoever volunteers for the job of running things, and not worry too much about what agendas motivate them.
no pie for you...just denial...that reminds me of...
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You are so right, and the longer more the denial goes on . . . .
the quicker their extinction. YEA 
You lefties are so naive. Obama has plans for worse for our nation.
Delusions and denial tremendous help
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Denial won't turn those numbers around.
I wouldn't expect too much out of the debate tomorrow either, especially McC caves and makes good on his threat to talk about Ayers. Can you say plunging numbers?
I feel sorry for you. You are so in denial. Better buy this lightbulbs.nm
Denial like this will land you in the same place
GOP needs to come to terms with where it went wrong, starting with a healthy dose of truth, washed down with a gallon of circumspection. Dems BTDT. If you need any pointers, just ask. BTW, it would be helpful for you to try the realize just which party the American people held responsible by taking another look at the election results.
O lovers just living in denial..... he has let them go
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Whoops, I mean the longer their denial . . . .
 but I'm sure my point is made. Now go ahead, Flamers!
And you are so deep in denial a forklift couldn't....
drag you out. Repeat after me: ohhhhbaaaamaaaa.
Gag me is right!!
Denial is where we belong in the face of such lies.
you cannot turn these lies into truth.
I have never in my life seen a group of people in such denial over EVERYTHING!! Get your heads out
You people deny that the dems are responsible for the housing crisis. Do some objective research!! They most certainly DID cause the crisis! You deny that the voter fraud from ACORN is a big deal, and that they are not trying to sway the election to any particular side!!! There were over 200,000 fraudulent votes in Ohio alone!! I was watching on CNN about this (the station that NEVER says anything negative towards liberals), and they were even talking about what a huge problem this is. They showed a ballot with the name of Jimmie Johns. They found the address, and it was Jimmie Johns restaurant - and there are 10s of thousands of ballots like this. And who worked for ACORN? Yup - the people's Messiah Obama. And somehow you all will find a way to minimize this and twist the facts, and probably blame me for telling this to you...
Your deep-seated denial is purely pathlogic and
is very telling about how hard you work to keep yourself insulated from the truth. There is no reason for Palestinians to exaggerate the atrocious fatality figures. Besides that, a survey of multiple new sources both inside and outside the US reveal these figures are amazingly consistent. They are compiled by hospital and (nonpartisan) humanitarian workers and the Red Crescent (the Middle East's equivalent to the Red Cross) which services the entire region, including Israel. The figures are notoriously CONSERVATIVE estimates, reflecting reported deaths and nearly always are later replaced with high numbers once the dust settles on the carnage.
"Their word against ours?" How childish can you get? This statement strongly implies a person who is interested in covering up the truth rather than getting to it. Why would you do that? Who is "ours?" WE are eyewitness to nothing, except a sanitized version of US mainstream media war reporting.
Actually see the bodies? Ever since Viet Nam, we have not had access to those images because the government learned that if you show the carnage, it turns the tide of public opinion against the war.
Be careful what you ask for. I can hook you up with some links.
http://sabbah.biz/mt/archives/2008/12/29/updated-gaza-massacre-photo-gallery/
http://palestinethinktank.com/2008/12/27/haitham-sabbah-photos-of-the-day/
http://www.ccun.org/Opinion%20Editorials/2009/January/2%20o/Gaza%20Massacre%20in%20Pictures,%20January%202,%202009.htm
About that hiding behind women and children crack/statement which you are parroting from the lying media mouthpieces. Gaza is the 6th most densely populated area in the world. There are 10,792 people per square mile in Gaza. Gaza is an occupied territory which has been blockaded for the past 18 months by Israel. There is no escape. There is no way out. And there is no possible way that Hamas (who live in Gaza and are citizens themselves) can NOT be among the civilian population. Weapons in mosques? Maybe. Maybe not. Where's the proof? This is the claim of the occupier. Sorry, I need convincing.
You're right. Bad guys don't always wear uniforms. Some of them wear suits and hide behind big impressive titles like prime minister, president, chairman and the like.
So jealous, in denial and wrong again OBAMA ROCKS BABY!!!! WE WON YAY!!!! nm
sour grapes
All Bush's fault....good grief....talk about denial...
Fannie and freddie? Ring a bell? BarneyRubble on the finance committee who said (on video) why there is nothing to worry about! Fannie is sound...and even if it wasn't, the government wouldn't bail them out....ROFL. DEMOCRAT. Bush Admin and John McCain in particular years ago telling them a crisis was looming but BarneyRubble and his crew not only did nothing, they encouraged Fannie to loan even more to people who had no prayer of paying it back...with credit rating less than 0. So tell me again how it was Bush's fault...do you realize how silly that makes your post sound? Get real???? COME ON. LOL. Obama is trying...trying what? To turn us into a welfare state for sure? Yup. Throwing us down the slippery slope of socialism? Yup. Not only trying, people like you are helping him. Well, enjoy is all I can say. Glad I didn't vote for him. This is all you folks. :)
This is what happens when you throw a
Different strokes for different folks. This is what democracy looks like. Deal with it. Not taking the abortion bait. Take that argument back to the church where it belongs.
They did everything but throw
cabbages and rotten eggs at the guy. Where do you get the 'nads to stand up there and keep sellin' when the customers just ain't buyin'? And whether he's one of the 'good ones' or not, he sounds just like every other politician, doesn't he? 'I've devoted my life to service.....You're mad. I hear you and Washington hears you.' Riiight! I hope we don't lose our fury and momentum before next year. A good out with the old/in with the new dustup in 2010 would have them shaking in their shoes for 2012.
Conservative vs true conservative
The Conservative:
I'm a conservative. I believe in individual liberty, free markets,
private
property, and limited government, except for:
1. Social Security;
2. Medicare;
3. Medicaid;
4. Welfare;
5. Drug laws;
6. Public schooling;
7. Federal grants;
8. Economic regulations;
9. Minimum-wage laws and price controls;
10. Federal Reserve System;
11. Paper money;
12. Income taxation and the IRS;
13. Trade restrictions;
14. Immigration controls;
15. Foreign aid;
16. Foreign wars of aggression;
17. Foreign occupations;
18. An overseas military empire;
19. A standing army and a military industrial complex;
20. Infringements on civil liberties;
21. Military detentions and denial of due process and jury trials for
citizens
and non-citizens accused of crimes;
22. Torture and sex abuse of prisoners;
23. Secret kidnappings and renditions to brutal foreign regimes for
purposes of torture;
24. Secret torture centers around the world;
25. Secret courts and secret judicial proceedings;
26. Warrantless wiretapping of citizens and non-citizens;
27. Violations of the Constitution and Bill of Rights for purposes of
national security;
28. Out-of-control federal spending to pay for all this.
The Libertarian (true conservative):
I'm a libertarian. I believe in individual liberty, free markets,
private
property, and limited government. Period. No exceptions.
throw him to the wolves
Hey, I have an idea, lets gnaw off the foot of the fool who got us into this mess into the first place. Took a country with a surplus, a happy time for all, respect throughout the world and got us into a situation we will not get out of for years to come, if ever..Better yet, lets throw him to the people and lets tar, feather and string him up.
false. Throw something
else against the wall, may be it will stick.
brb -going to go throw up my lunch now.
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Then you'll throw a fit about having
to pay this woman's medical bills, support her subsidized housing, feeding and clothing the kid........make up your MINDS. It's a shame she didn't have the money to abort this fetus safely.
Say one more word and I will throw up! nm
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After we throw the bums out
Maybe we should acknowlege that whoever volunteers for the job has ulterior motives.
What if we then select our candidates at random, like we do jurors for jury duty. We select a slate of candidates that are average people with average lives, give them the chance to decline or get excused for good reason, then give them time to present a platform and vote on which one of them gets the office. Derails the good old boy network completely. We couldn't guarantee the new candidates wouldn't be greedy, but their greed would at least be less organized and not part of the sophisticated behind the scenes network that exists today.
I'm sorry but for this judge to throw
out the tests for those firerighters who studied hard and earned those promotions and didn't get them merely because they were all white with one hispanic man. To me...that is racism right there. They didn't get the promotions because of their skin color. Had they been a more motley crew of races, they would have gotten those promotions. It is truly a sad day when hard work and studying doesn't benefit you because your skin color isn't that of a minority.
I'm all for equal rights between the races and all of these firefighters were given the same studying materials and the same amount of time to study. How can you take away those promotions from the people who studied hard and scored the highest merely because most of them are white?
This doesn't present a very good opinion of this judge so far to me. She also made a comment about how with her experience and her being a latino women, she could make better decisions than a white male. Racism? Hello? If a white man had said that he could make better decisions than a black man, woman, or latino.....OMG.....the race card would have been thrown out and that would have been the end of his career. Why is it that minorities are allowed to say racist things and be racist and that is okay, but the moment a white person says something remotely racist.......that is the end of that person's career. More double standards.
Well by all means...throw the whole country...
to the dogs because he has a dynamic mentality. By ALL means. lolol.
You said it - and any other Clinton throw-aways
What is up with all this???? They did enough damage when they were in there before. Albright was one of the most useless secretary of state and countries held little respect for her. She made the country a laughing stock before Bush ever got in there.
How much does it cost to throw a party?
Look, I don't care if Obama's inaugaration party is costing 21 million, but in the light of where our economy is right now, do you think it's a good idea? I mean, can't you have a good party for around 10 million? This is NOT a political question. I'm not attacking Obama, it's more of an economic question.
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