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I thought you loved to argue daggummit?!

Posted By: sbMT on 2008-10-31
In Reply to: To sbMT - gourdpainter

Well like I said I understand not wanting to vote for Mccain. I really don't either. I just can't in good conscience vote for Obama. Like I said I have to look at the issues from a Christian point of view before I look at them from any other view. Mccain is not the epitome of a Christian candidate, but to measure him against Obama he is more so than Obama. Or at least he will hold closer to the laws of God than Obama.

I know Obama says he is a Christian, but you will know a Christian by the fruit he bares. I'm not liking his fruit. :)

Lesser of two evils unfortunately.


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But I thought you guys LOVED gays! Wassa matta you?!!? nm

HA HA HA HA HA - loved it
The insanity drives me crazy.


Loved it...thank you!

 GO OBAMA!!


 


 


What I loved even better (sm)
was that he was trying to give her good advice - advice she should listen to, and she wouldn't have any of it. I like her, but I don't take her too seriously and I don't think anyone else should either. She's a satirist, like Bill Maher for the left.

Republicans have been in power now for eight years and the Democrats did nothing but scream and yell about what a terrible job they were doing. Now that the Democrats are in power, they're going to have to get used to hearing that same screaming and yelling from the Republicans - it's just the way politics works =)
But your loved one will have to have
but a government-run facility. Have you ever tried to help someone with a mental illness get insurance? Especially someone who is the catch-22 of can't get insurance without a job--can't get a job without medication/treatment--can't get medication/treatment without insurance--thank you for calling social services; we currently have no openings in our treatment programs and our prescription assistance service ran out of funding for the year in February, but we can put you on the list.
Loved it...LOL...nm
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HAHAHAHA - loved it!!!!
        
exactly where is it that i said i loved hillary?
'bout time, too.
I loved your post
I don't want anyone taking my money or my DH's money that we have worked hard for and giving it to someone who sits around all day waiting for the mailman to bring them a check. You certainly don't hear much about welfare reform anymore. Just about how every one needs to be treated the same.
That's okay, I'm sure O has a pill for her....he loved
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I loved reading that
I still don't understand why Obama singled out Pennsylvanians with those statements. Does anybody know why who follows this stuff "religiously" (dare I use the word)?
I loved this.....thanks for the laugh....sm
Do you suppose it would really work for any of us in this day and age????.........lolol.........
Loved the quotes
I love history (love the history channel when they have specials on historical figures) and reading about the great men who worked hard to make this country free. These are all great quotes. Unfortunately in today's day and age there are so many lawyers they have turned everything around and they are destroying (or trying to destroy) what the country was founded on and make it into what they want it to be today, and too many people just don't care about the men in our history (just don't take away their American Idol and Survivor shows. HA HA)

It is so insulting that people are trying to destroy what made this country great and free!

I also saw your message above about the thanks for defending the country. I came from a family of military people (dad and grandpa in navy, uncle in marines, another uncle in the air force, and his son (my cousin) in the marines). I believed in our country (Reagan was president) and still do. I am a patriot to the country - not to a person. If I didn't like our country I would leave and move to another country, but I happen to like this one and it has nothing to do with who the president is. If McCain had been elected I wouldn't love the country any less.

But I do love Jefferson, Adams, Washington, Franklin and all those other great men who fought and risked everything. They had such wisdom, knowledge, and courage. And now look at the modern day politicians. I'm sure the founding fathers are turning over right now.
I loved and supported
my sister through surgery. It didn't mean we were married. You can love and support anyone. It doesn't make a marriage. A man and a woman who love and support each other and have sexual intercourse to try and conceive or not is what makes a marriage. It's a simple concept that has worked over the centuries and it will continue regardless of homo judges and whining, crying abnormal mental cases who are confused about their sexuality.
just to say loved your reply...GREAT!

Believe it or not some people who have lost loved ones
do feel that the losses were worth it.  I know it's hard to fathom.  I know their grief has got to be almost unbearable, but they, like their loved ones who enlisted knew what the consequences of signing up for military service might be.  How do you explain those who enlisted right after 9/11 and are enlisting even now?  A personal friend of mine is leaving for Marine boot camp in two weeks. Something  beyond human reasoning compelled them to enlist.  It's called patriotism and the willingness to defend the freedom this country was founded on and spread that freedom throughout the world. 
Loved this post! Couldn't have said it better
What a great post. Wish I could write so well.
Thank you for this post - loved it and to the point.
As a Deist myself I find you are right on!

I am so tired of arguing with the closed minded religious nutbags (my sister who newly turned mormon is the worst to talk to - she is so closed minded). The christians always have an answer for everything and they won't listen to the truth.

They also haven't researched who our founding fathers were and what they went through because of what they believed. I think Thomas Paine probably got it the worst. They were the most brilliant men in our history and I'm sure they are rolling over in their grave everytime they hear someone saying our founding fathers were christians or the country was founded on Christianity. Reminds me of when I was watching the O'Reilly factor (who is catholic) and he was trying to tell some Jewish guy that Catholics invented marriage. Luckily the Jewish guest called him on it.

You are absolutely right on - they were NOT christians. They were Deists. Beleiving in a creator does not make one a christian.

Thanks for the post!
LOVED the tick comparison!
sucking every last drop of blood out of us little guys who are little more to them than just cogs in the wheel.
I loved him in Young Riders
He's a good actor (he can play some real creepy characters). Not sure about his political viewpoints because I'm not very conservative.
loved it!!! how glorious -- she adores him

it was truly magical -- made me cry... so full of hope and happiness right now.  proud to be an American...IMHO



Loved the article. I had made some of the same predictions he did! nm
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Loved your post farther down on the board...
....the post about religions, etc. It's what I'd been thinking but much more eloquent and better researched.
Actually I think Queen Elizabeth loved the Corgis...
and Princess Anne loved the horses. However...I don't believe Princess Anne barrel raced and my Corgis are not nearly as fat as the Queen's. lol. No royalty here.

Have a good evening as well.
Loved the "TV guide" version
Thanks for the countdown to Hillary's speech. Put some comedy into this which is what is needed. I also loved the other post that said a whole Xanax affords you a 2-hour nap. I'm gonna have to get me some of that.

I have learned a few things during this "race". Hillary is driven by power and greed and she won't stop at anything. I've never liked her. Well actually I used to like her when she and Bill were campaigning before he was elected the first time, and I liked her for about a month after she became first lady. Then her true self started to come out and DH and I would be mystified saying, wait a minute...this is not the same lady. I also heard that whenever they hosted dinners at the white house they would tell everyone to be there at a certain time and then they would purposely wait one hour and have everyone gather at the bottom of the steps so they could make their grand entrance for everyone to watch. They seemed to forget they were living in America and the were the president and first lady, not living in England being the King and Queen. So looks like her attitude hasn't changed much. Hillary has always been after uniting the world into a one-world government (or at least Mexico, US & Canada being one country) with her being the leader. Nothing less. I never expected her to end her campaign. After all you never know when such tragedy will hit and she needs to be standing there ready to sleeze in. In the beginning I listened to her because I wanted to know what her plans were if she were to be elected, and it seemed to be more of the same socialist programs she has been trying to pass since being first lady. So I have learned the best way to avoid the stress of listening to her drone on is to hit the mute button as soon as her face "graces" my TV. Now I'm pretty good and can usually hit the channel changer first before a sound from her is even uttered.

Anyway...loved your post. and yes, grilled peach salad doesn't sound too good.
Loved it!!!!- great way to start the day - with a laugh. (nm)
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Loved it when Biden called Obama
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We can argue this....

until the cows come homes, but how can you explain the fact that the tax cuts have produced HIGHER TAX REVENUES THAN AT ANY TIME DURING THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION, EVEN WITH HIS TAX HIKES?


Yes, the rich get the bulk of tax cuts, that's because THEY pay most of the taxes.  They also pay them at a higher rate.  And lest we forget the millions who dropped OFF the tax rolls after the Bush tax cuts. 


Who am I to argue
I guess they could get a million African-Americans to say he was not a racist, but as long as you say so, it must be true. 
One could argue that.
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Oh, please. Why argue about
how something might not be true because someone with a beef against Bush said it? Sure, take it into consideration but then go find out the truth! You seem to imply that people must be lying about anything they say if they don't like Bush. Where did you get such a notion, if you really have it?

Newsflash! - People can disagree with Bush policies and still be telling the truth! But ultimately it's up to YOU to judge the truth of any claim from EITHER side - and using a measure of who likes him and who doesn't like him to decide what truth is, is not going to cut it for whoever thinks that's going to work.
I'd like to see someone argue with this.

The next to the last paragraph was the most telling.  I wonder if this prediction will come true before the end of 2006 (after the elections, of course).


Dr. Charles finally goes to bed after this, his first bit of Google-cut-and-paste-environmental-journalism, fully expecting but hoping not to wake up in a world in which gas costs $10/gallon and we're at war with Iran.


No, I am not going to argue with you...
I wanted to know your reasoning and now I know it. Thank you for your honesty!
you can't argue with

the True Believers of JM/SP.  There is no fact or situation that would deter them from their dogged quest to drag the country to even lower depths.


 


Can't argue with that...how else will they ever
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Sam, you just want to argue -
You know that if you don't pay taxes you cannot get a tax cut - you know what he means when he says 95% of Americans. You are just trying to blow smoke so that people who read what you say and nothing else will vote your way and think Obama is just this horrible person who is going to take all their money and give it to those scumbags who don't do nothing...

Nothing anybody say is going to satisfy you - you are just going to keep going in circles...

we understand that you do not like Obama, but you don't have to just deliberately act dumb because it is obvious you are not dumb!
There is no way I will argue with
on high with this breakdown of her most despised party's ideology. I am just a meager 4-decade party member in need of enlightenment on my own party's platforms.

But I will say this much. Within his own party establishment, Rahm Emanuel is NOT considered to be in ranks of the left or progressives. One only has to tune in to Pacifica and listen to Amy Goodman tear him inside out to understand this particular concept. That discussion will be aired on Democracy Now! if anyone out there is interested in such analysis. But then again, none of us could possibly know as much as Sam does about this pick.

The examples of his support for the war and his pro-Israel stance are diametrically opposed to left-wing views. Since I am not in the habit of researching right-wing blogs for my education, I am also not qualified to comment on the rest of this propaganda. Take it away, Sam. That's your territory, not mine.
My OP would argue otherwise.
RE: Smoke and mirrors. I never said I disbelieved the report. I simply decided to research it for myself and draw my own conclusions, based on the facts at hand, not some incoherent and not terribly credible right-wing rant. You might try it sometime. You know what they say. It's not the destination, but the journey.
exactly, how can they argue this... SERIOUSLY
Ghostmom... how highly observant of you, why didn't anyone think of that before...

I just dont know how they will respond to you and spin it. or they wont respond because they can't defend it...


exactly, how can they argue this...
Ghostmom... how highly observant of you, why didn't anyone think of that before...

I just dont know how they will respond to you and spin it. or they wont respond because they can't defend it...


I am not asking to argue, but who is sm
it that you claim to be "your god?" Why would you not want to "share your faith" if you have faith and know you are going to heaven.
I am too tired to argue it. sm
You win everything!  Whatever that is.  Besides, it's all silly compared to what really matters in the world.  Have a good one!
I cannot argue with someone who thinks as you do.
You decry killing of innocent civilians when they are Muslim only.  Israeli have lived with killings for decades. Where was your pain then? 
I won't argue that point! nm
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I hate to argue, especially when

I know from the outset it will make no difference.  Life is too short and my time is too valuable. 


I won't be voting early, but I will be voting.  That's one for me and one for you.  No need to argue.  The votes will all be counted and we will see what happens.  


If you hate to argue
then why are you doing it?  LOL
Okay, you obviously just want to argue in circles here.
Calling someone self righteous and conservative like it's a bad thing is being judgmental and therefore hypocritical.

I'm sorry I wasted my time.
hmm...no you win....lets argue about that instead. nm
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Pointless to argue....maybe but
we sat idley by while Madelyn Murray O'Hair  trampled our "pearls".
not even gonna argue
i KNOW i have way more on you

But I would really like you to point out how i have spewed hatred in a racism form? That offends me like nothing else and I think you should apologize. You can flame me for politics or whatever else, but to call me racist is the most vile disgusting inappropriate thing to say to someone like me, you dont know my past or my present and you have no idea what that could mean to someone like me so why dont you take it upon yourself to apologize for that nasty comment about me being racist. That is shameful and hurtful.
not that i really expect people like you to care.

And on a side note, my man knows everything about me!
Well I'm not in the mood to argue but

all I know (so far) is half the cost to help homeowners and create jobs like the dems package... In fact, I believe it almost had the same things EXCEPT the crappy projects that do nothing to create a healthy economy and put people back to work, keep them in their home, allow permanent tax cuts to you and me, not just businesses, but you and me. He wanted 5% off the top for us.


We have the highest business tax in the world and that is one of the reasons  companies moved their businesses out of here. McCain did want to cut the business tax when he was running, but people didn't see how that would help. It would have kept more businesses from moving out and hopefully, get some businesses to come back. Opps, sorry. That last statement about the businesses moving back is wrong. They use slave labor to get their products out and wouldn't want to come back and pay Americans a decent wage to produce their products because they want to keep the profits for themselves.


You have your opinion and I have mine. I think McC's package would have been better.


I still don't want to spend $88 million to move the one branch of government into another building. I still don't want to spend millions on youth summer jobs (up to the age of 24 BTW). I dont' want to spend millions on renovating the government buildings.  Even though the dems are thinking more on the lines of energy efficiency for these buildings (which is a good idea), THESE ITEMS DO NOT BELONG IN A STIMULUS PACKAGE TO HELP US OR THE ECONOMY. They only help certain areas of the country, not the whole country.