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I thought they were discussing sending them to Australia.

Posted By: MT on 2009-01-22
In Reply to: But what's going to happen to all of those detainees? - Zville MT

Did that change? I don't watch political channels, it just makes me mad.


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I think I might move to another country - how does Australia sound? nm
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YES we should be discussing this
We should discuss it until it is resolved. It has not been resolved yet as you can see. This is one of the major headlines in the U.S. Has the "possible" next President met the qualifications. There are lots of headlines going on around the world (India being the biggest right now), but here in this country American's are still waiting for answers. Yes we should be discussing and questioning until an answer has been given. Not by left-wing agencies like factcheck, MSNBC, CNN, etc but by the Supreme Court.

Next, if you don't know where my sources came from why are you calling them right-wing. One of them is NBC and that is "left-wing". Additionally I don't need to site sources because first, I'm not posting the articles. I'm posting headlines I read on the internet. This "post your sources" is getting way out of hand. In the past conservatives and independents have posted their opinions before and were told to give their sources. Tell me that makes sense?????? Do your own research. And second, if I did post sources, you have shown by your statement you are already going to say they are not credible. Anything that doesn't favor and drools over the O you and other dems will say it's not credible, so no need to site them. Look them up yourself. Might do some good to get a different opinion than the left-wing sites. If you think I made up these headlines, pulleese. If I could only write so well I'd be rich.

And what I don't find entertaining in this "left-wing" blog is the starry-eyed O followers cutting down every single thing out there. We on this page do not make this stuff up. This is coming from thousands and thousands of Americans all across the country (at least 100,000 for sure). The facts are that the supreme court will be deciding if he meets the qualifications. We will wait til then. So until then I don't find the lovefest for Obama amusing. And if you don't want to read people's differences of opinions I would suggest not coming here.

The people who are not interested in the truth are the ones who are afraid of the truth. The left-wing dems who try to cut down those with different opinions and call them all these names. Never once questioning anything. Just following the pack (I believe they are referred to as Sheople).

You said you "addressed this issue during the campaign.". My answer to that is "So what!" Does that mean because you have addressed that is the end to it and no longer to be talked about. This is one of the most important issues of our time right now (yes along with the other crisis' going on), but we're talking about a person who might possibly be the next president. If it was a republican getting ready to take office you'd be on this board every day wanting to discuss it. I think finding out whether this guy is qualified and if not, how in the world did he ever get this far (who covered up what) will be one of the biggest issues of time. And for someone who doesn't want to waste their time you sure wrote a long post.

This is not gossip. The supreme court does not involve themselves with cases of "gossip". There is validity to what is being brought forth to them. Otherwise they would not waste their time. They don't have time to hear every single case that is brought before them, but they know the importance of upholding the Constitution, and so do the electorals who will be voting. If he doesn't meet the qualifications he and the DNC have got some explaining to do.

Your comments about "right-wing rag sources" "so-called headlines" "ignorance in the fringe right's hate blogs" "Focks news". Goes to show how little you know about what is happening. And your statement that you "read and listen to numerous national and international sources on a daily basis" is laughable. Your comments show you clearly do not.

Your dose of reality is that this is bigger than you know, the Supreme Court will be hearing the case. There are at least 12 or more lawsuits going on. The O refuses to show the information and prove his eligibility (not sure how long he thinks he can get away with it - what's he going to do, defy the Supreme Court?). The cases are being presented by lawyers, judges, politicians, democrats, independents, republicans, whites, indians, chinese, and blacks. The people voting in December want the issue cleared up because if any of them have any doubt about this, they will not vote for him. That's the reality and that's what the dems (especially on this board) fear, and that is why the left-wing rags, TV stations, and radio stations won't talk about it.

As for the rest of your post I will not address because it is so long I didn't read the rest of it. The first two paragraphs and the first sentence of the third paragraph was enough for me to realize you clearly do not know what you are talking about.

Maybe you should get a grip and read and listen to other stuff besides what the left wingers keep dishing out.
As I said below, he had been discussing Freakanomics, Democrat.

And as I said below, need he have interjected that in every sentence in the conversation?  The discussion was actually about abortion.  The entire TEXT of the conversation is posted here.  Also, this has been discussed on several talk shows and Freakanomics has been mentioned often and appropriately, but as I also said, there is no use discussing it further.  There is no arguing with most on here about it, athough there was a glimmer of hope.  Understand me, I am not dismissing his comments out of hand. I think he made a poor decision when he was making a point.  However, do I think he did it deliberately and with malice and do I think he is a racist?  Absolutely not.  THIS is racism:








What, white isn’t a color?
Posted by: McQ on Saturday, October 01, 2005
 
Things like this amuse me as they show the absolute lunacy which now exists in some areas of our society. From Northeastern University:
After originally advertising for women of color only, the Women's Studies and Graduate Consortium's first Breaking Bread: Women of Color Dialogue was forced to open the doors of the Raytheon Amphitheater to all races last Saturday.

The event was meant to include only women of color during its first session from 9 a.m. to 1 p.m., with the second session from 1 p.m. to 3 p.m. open to the public. However, after protest from the Student Government Association (SGA), orders came from Provost Ahmed Abdelal that the event must remain open to all who wished to attend.

They were in violation of the nondiscrimination policy, said Michael DeRamo, SGA vice president for academic affairs. We're glad that everything turned out well and the people who wanted to go were allowed to attend.

He said although SGA appreciated what the program was trying to accomplish, SGA could not stand dormant while one of their senators was denied admission based on her race.
OK, you say. Good deal. Now, check out the reaction:
I think it's a shame that one or two white students based on white privilege, a lack of awareness of racial issues and a lack of generosity of spirit complained to the office of the provost and were able, because they were white, to gain admission to the morning session that I was forced to open up, Chandler said. Only one white female student showed up and I welcomed her anyway, in addition to telling the audience to conduct themselves with integrity even though the presence of a white woman was unwelcome.
Is your irony meter pegging out yet? Talk about Newspeak. Protesting discrimination is now lack of awareness of racial issues and a lack of generosity of spirit.

Protesting discrimination now apparently only belongs to 'people of color'.

Just as interesting is this group seems to believe it can solve racial issues without involving all the races.

Oh and the condescension was almost dripping when this person said I welcomed her ... even though the presence of a white woman was unwelcome.

Sounds like a stereotypical southerner in the immediate post-civil rights south, doesn't it?


Personal note: You won't see this in the MSM.


THIS is racist:


In the days of slavery, there were those slaves who lived on the plantation and [there] were those slaves that lived in the house. You got the privilege of living in the house if you served the master ... exactly the way the master intended to have you serve him. Colin Powell's committed to come into the house of the master. When Colin Powell dares to suggest something other than what the master wants to hear, he will be turned back out to pasture. -- Harry Belafonte


THIS is racist:


He's married to a white woman. He wants to be white. He wants a colorless society. He has no ethnic pride. He doesn't want to be black. -- California State Senator Diane Watson's on Ward Connerly's interracial marriage


THIS is racist:


I am a former kleagle of the Ku Klux Klan in Raleigh County and the adjoining counties of the state .... The Klan is needed today as never before and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia .... It is necessary that the order be promoted immediately and in every state of the Union. Will you please inform me as to the possibilities of rebuilding the Klan in the Realm of W. Va .... I hope that you will find it convenient to answer my letter in regards to future possibilities. -- Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd, a man who is referred to by many Democrats as the conscience of the Senate, in a letter written in 1946, after he quit the KKK.


THIS is racist:


I'll have those n*ggers voting Democratic for the next 200 years. -- Lyndon B. Johnson to two governors on Air Force One according Ronald Kessler's Book, Inside The White House


THIS is egregiously racist:


I think one man is just as good as another so long as he's not a n*gger or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a n*gger from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America. Harry Truman (1911) in a letter to his future wife Bess


And THIS is racist:


There’s some people who’ve gone over the state and said, ‘Well, George Wallace has talked too strong about segregation.’ Now let me ask you this: how in the name of common sense can you be too strong about it? You’re either for it or you’re against it. There’s not any middle ground as I know of. -- Democratic Alabama Governor George Wallace (1959)


Discussing ideas is antagonistic?
I, personally, have been very respectful. If discussing ideas and having a dialogue with someone is antagonistic to you then I'm afraid you're in for a very difficult road in life.
today on radio, they were discussing
his own party is in controversy over flip-flops. disgusted almost with the whole lot of them. someone said government growth has been 60% in the last few years. Don't know about that, but upsetting story on medicare losing millions by having doctor's available info on line which, of course, has been abused. Some of these guys have been dead for years and so people have been using their id's and #'s to scam/order wheelchairs. oh well, we'll always have more taxpayers, right? The name of the game is money, and they are all to blame for this energy problem, alternative methods have been squelched for almost 80 years. We could very quickly find ourselves in a fine pickle if they shut off the tap over there and I don't put it past them. After all, we have already made them filthy rich, they won't need us anymore, especially with our losing economy. Indonesia and Viet Nam won't even accept american money. or so I heard a couple of weeks ago, not like I tried to spend any money anywhere! I strongly feel the need to become self-sufficient and I mean that on an individual level as well, think 1800's. our people are much too busy fingerpointing to get anything accomplished and I am sick of all the bickering and wastefulness. I really feel for the ones to come after us.
I agree. My husband and I were discussing that.
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More foreign political news...Australia..So long, John Howard..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071125/ap_on_re_au_an/australia_election
My husband and I were discussing is that the upside of Obama as pres it that we will probably
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Perhaps sending packages
but your blanket statements about not supporting the troops is plain false and truly ignorant. You just don't get it; our beef is with Bush and Co. and his asinine policies. The troops are the ones being sent to be slaughtered for heaven's sake. You think we don't know that? Why doesn't Bush send his twin daughters, since it's such a noble cause?

As for the cigarettes and junk food, I have seen it with my own eyes! Of course it's insulting...it's insulting to our troops to send them for weapons that weren't there and because of the stupidity and arrogance of a man who won't listen to his top soldiers! Generals who warned him of all of this --- he basically told 'em to get lost. What about Colin Powell-- a 4-star general who had to make the case; how do you think he feels? My goodness, I don't know why I bother, 'cause you just dont' get it. We'll just have to leave it at that. It's all so senseless.
And sending them offshore does not?
Under a government that rewards offshoring, where will your job be in another 4-8 years?
And they just keep right on sending him back to DC
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Sending up prayers for all those of you who live...
in South Texas. That storm looks mean. I hope you and your families all get through it fine and safe. It would be nice to hear from you here after the storm passes just to know that you made it through ok.
then why is he sending people to represent him?
Seriously, I just heard a little blip on our news that he is sending 2 people to represent him- so why not go himself? they send he is sending someone else so as to distance himself from the turmoil but have some representation there who can't actually do anything. That's what was said.
I think he is sending America a message.......... sm
and it has to do with the fact that he pulled the wool over our eyes yet again and will continue to do so.

There was more press coverage on which dog would be the new White House pet than which church the new first family would be attending, although I do remember it being announced that he would attend an Episcopal church for Easter services.

I care what his faith is, Kendra, and you should as well. If he is, in fact, as is believed by many Muslim, then you'd better get prepared because we will be in a whole world of hurt.
No, he's sending the Muslim community a
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So true! Needy vs lazy. 2 different things! Sending
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Getting a blow job is worse than sending Americans to be killed?

If choosing between a president who had his penis sucked in the oval office, and a president who threw unequipped National Guard troops under the bus to try to impress his daddy, I'll take the Prez with the healthy sexual appetite any day.


10 Reasons to Impeach G. W. Bush and Dick "Shoot 'em Up" Cheney (BTW it is too bad Cheney and Bush never went hunting together):


1. Violating the United Nations Charter by launching an illegal "War of Aggression" against Iraq without cause, using fraud to sell the war to Congress and the public, misusing government funds to begin bombing without Congressional authorization, and subjecting our military personnel to unnecessary harm, debilitating injuries, and deaths.


2. Violating U.S. and international law by authorizing the torture of thousands of captives, resulting in dozens of deaths, and keeping prisoners hidden from the International Committee of the Red Cross.


3. Violating the Constitution by arbitrarily detaining Americans, legal residents, and non-Americans, without due process, without charge, and without access to counsel.


4. Violating the Geneva Conventions by targeting civilians, journalists, hospitals, and ambulances, and using illegal weapons, including white phosphorous, depleted uranium, and a new type of napalm.


5. Violating U.S. law and the Constitution through widespread wiretapping of the phone calls and emails of Americans without a warrant.


6. Violating the Constitution by using "signing statements" to defy hundreds of laws passed by Congress.


7. Violating U.S. and state law by obstructing honest elections in 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006.


8. Violating U.S. law by using paid propaganda and disinformation, selectively and misleadingly leaking classified information, and exposing the identity of a covert CIA operative working on sensitive WMD proliferation for political retribution.


9. Subverting the Constitution and abusing Presidential power by asserting a "Unitary Executive Theory" giving unlimited powers to the President, by obstructing efforts by


1. Violating the United Nations Charter by launching an illegal "War of Aggression" against Iraq without cause, using fraud to sell the war to Congress and the public, misusing government funds to begin bombing without Congressional authorization, and subjecting our military personnel to unnecessary harm, debilitating injuries, and deaths.


2. Violating U.S. and international law by authorizing the torture of thousands of captives, resulting in dozens of deaths, and keeping prisoners hidden from the International Committee of the Red Cross.


3. Violating the Constitution by arbitrarily detaining Americans, legal residents, and non-Americans, without due process, without charge, and without access to counsel.


4. Violating the Geneva Conventions by targeting civilians, journalists, hospitals, and ambulances, and using illegal weapons, including white phosphorous, depleted uranium, and a new type of napalm.


5. Violating U.S. law and the Constitution through widespread wiretapping of the phone calls and emails of Americans without a warrant.


6. Violating the Constitution by using "signing statements" to defy hundreds of laws passed by Congress.


7. Violating U.S. and state law by obstructing honest elections in 2000, 2002, 2004, and 2006.


8. Violating U.S. law by using paid propaganda and disinformation, selectively and misleadingly leaking classified information, and exposing the identity of a covert CIA operative working on sensitive WMD proliferation for political retribution.


9. Subverting the Constitution and abusing Presidential power by asserting a "Unitary Executive Theory" giving unlimited powers to the President, by obstructing efforts by Congress and the Courts to review and restrict Presidential actions, and by promoting and signing legislation negating the Bill of Rights and the Writ of Habeas Corpus.


10. Gross negligence in failing to assist New Orleans residents after Hurricane Katrina, in ignoring urgent warnings of an AL Qaeda attack prior to Sept. 11, 2001, and in increasing air pollution causing global warming.


 Congress and the Courts to review and restrict Presidential actions, and by promoting and signing legislation negating the Bill of Rights and the Writ of Habeas Corpus.


10. Gross negligence in failing to assist New Orleans residents after Hurricane Katrina, in ignoring urgent warnings of an Al Qaeda attack prior to Sept. 11, 2001, and in increasing air pollution causing global warming.


I just thought it might be nice to hear an original thought. sm
I guess I was reaching.
Thought this was good so I thought I'd share

Down the drain?  Beware of Obama's plan to 'spread the wealth around'


By Betsy Newmark
High School History and Government Teacher/Blogger


If the McCain campaign can’t use this Obama quote to raise doubts about his attitude towards wealth and success, then they deserve the shellacking they seem headed for.


“Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn’t it?” the plumber asked, complaining that he was being taxed “more and more for fulfilling the American dream.”


“It’s not that I want to punish your success. I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they’ve got a chance for success too,” Obama responded. “My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody.”


Plumbers of the country, unite! Forget about the work and effort you put into building up a business or the scummy work that you do that many of us don’t know or don’t want to do. If you have succeeded, you should be willing to give up more of what you earn to help those who haven’t had the great good luck that you have had to be a successful plumber. Remember how Obama is going to give 95% of all of us a tax cut even though over 30% of the population doesn’t pay taxes?



He might call it a tax credit, but what he’s really doing is his vision of “spreading the wealth around.” It sounds a lot like Huey Long’s 1935 plan to “Share the Wealth.” And when he finds that he can’t tax the top 5% of the population to gain enough wealth to spread to the 95% of the rest of us, do you really think that he’ll stop with that 5%?


Remember…This is the guy who said in the ABC debate during the primary season that his approach to raising tax on capital gains is not based on whether it would provide more revenue but on his idea of what is fair:


GIBSON: All right. You have, however, said you would favor an increase in the capital gains tax. As a matter of fact, you said on CNBC, and I quote, “I certainly would not go above what existed under Bill Clinton,” which was 28 percent. It’s now 15 percent. That’s almost a doubling, if you went to 28 percent.


But actually, Bill Clinton, in 1997, signed legislation that dropped the capital gains tax to 20 percent.


OBAMA: Right.


GIBSON: And George Bush has taken it down to 15 percent.


OBAMA: Right.


GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down.


So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?


OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.


Just what we need in these fragile economic times — a guy who wants to raise taxes because he thinks it’s a matter of “fairness” and time to “spread the wealth around.”


That will be some incentive for other plumbers who want to work hard and build up a successful business.


But don’t worry - according to Joe Biden, it’s the patriotic thing to do.


Haha! I thought I was the only one who thought he looked

I told you what I thought he thought....
and thank you so much for reducing it to "a piece."

That being said, here is link to article from Wall Street Journal about both candidates and outsourcing...Obama is not going to stop it either. He has said on the stump the answer is more highly educated American workers to compete.

It seems to me, and although you may think this is also a "piece," that if you put our corporate tax rates lower, if that corporation is inclined to hire Americans and not outsource then they will do so.

You honestly think the majority of corporations just WANT to outsource and taxes don't matter?


I thought I was alone.

So refreshing to have someone on this board that can actually think for themselves.  I have such vivid memories of my dad dressing up in his class A's to go to war, and coming into my room crying at 4:00 a.m. in the morning to say goodbye, not knowing if we would ever see one another again.  Thankfully, he did 1 tour in Korea before I was born, two tours in VN, and we lived on an Army base 25 miles from the Berlin wall when I was 6 years old.  If there was ever an american girl, it is me and my brother.  That "american girl" posting on here all the time, if she had to earn her FFFF freedom she would learn to keep her mouth shut.


Same thought here

It seems like one of first major priorities would be to ensure fair voting practices.  I'm very worried about the accuracy of computerized voting and possible tampering. 


I thought you were new here?sm
People are somewhat like-minded here, but I see distinct posting styles here. I am a conservative (ex-Republican), but I do not post on their board; their ideology does not reflect my beliefs. I have never once been bashed by liberals, even if they do not agree with me.
Just a thought....
Before too long the number of Iraq War troop deaths will be as high as the ones here on 9/11.  And all for what?  So sad.
You know what I thought when I saw it?
I thought it was posted by someone from the rabid right, so they could come back and respond to their very own post and blame the liberals because people post things like this.  LoL!
I thought he was
putting his money where his mouth is. He has donated a large amount of his personal funds to this project, as well as fundraising efforts A lot of celebs just talk, Brad is actually doing something. Why does he have to live in the 9th ward to help.

I sponsor kids on the Salvation Army Angel Tree. Should I have to live with them to help them?

Gimme a break!
Never thought of it this way
You brought some good thoughts to mind. I definitely agree with you.
I know it's not very PC, but I'm sure the thought has
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Another Thought

If Sara Palin came on the scene as an Independent and ran against McCain & Obama, think how that could've changed things! 


As a conservative, I'm thrilled to see someone who knows how to play ball with the big boys.  Funny how the feminists want all this equal rights stuff, then shoot this lady down before they really know anything about her.


I wonder how upset Hillary's supporters are over this.  Time will tell, not just polls.


It should be interesting what history reveals in the end.  Either way, this race will go down in the books as a first.  That in itself is interesting.


Okay, that's what I thought lol

Two late nights in a row for me...thank GOD it's Friday! :)



I thought so............
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Just a thought about this.

Since I only heard a snippet of this so far, the governor was trying to have others pay him to appoint them to take the O's senate seat?


If so (and don't bash, I'm asking a very serious question here), could this be how the O came up so quick? He paid for his senate seat?


The gov doesn't look like he thinks he did anything wrong. He's kinda young looking too. Could it be because Illinois has always had corruption like this? Gee, I think I'll go to Illinois and run for senator. LOL


Nobody thought that
Patriotism shouldn't be an issue, because there should be NO question whether a candidate for president is loyal to this country. The fact that there IS a question should scare people a lot more than it apparently does.

Do tell. I thought she did too. nm
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I thought that was odd too
I was trying to figure out the strategy was with that. Maybe it was to convey that McCain thinks Obama is so inferior to him, he can't even bother looking at him? I don't know. They were supposed to be debating each other, and I wanted some more interaction.

I kept waiting for him to look Obama in the eye and say you are wrong. Even Bush looked in Putin's eyes and saw his soul or whatever.

I thought I was the only one who thought
as you do. I've been pulling $ out of my savings every month to pay the bills that my paychecks do not. I work longer and longer hours, for less and less money.

I, too, am 100% against this so-called 'bailout'. WHO, exactly, are they bailing out? I would actually LIKE to see the 'train-wreck'. I WANT to see Wall Street crash and all of the banks fail. I don't have any money in them anyway... it all gets spent on month-to-month survival.

I already know how to get by on next-to-nothing. So it would be just EVER-SO-ENTERTAINING if we could sit back and watch all this high-flyin' corporate con-men lose their shirts and have to learn to live on nothing, as well.

The best thing about allowing things to just take their own course, instead of falsely propping it all up with the crutch of a federal bailout, is that maybe, just MAYBE, if the whole system had to be re-built from the ground up, maybe they might do a better job this time around.

So, fire those locomotives up, and point those suckers right at each other! Train-wreck! YEAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!
okay , that's what I thought, so why --
why does everybody say that Obama wants socialized medicine then? That is not what I read. My take on Obama's plan is that he wants insurance available for everyone but that most people will still be insured through their employers, but the government will have insurance plans for those who do not get it through their employer. That is not socialized medicine to me, that is just providing insurance coverage for people who need it.
Just another thought
You say you want someone with experience.  Then the obvious choice is John McCain if you want business as usual, dishonesty, immorality, everything that is wrong with our government.  Give me a candidate who is moral, honest and has integrity and that's the candidate I want.  THAT could and would change the government that has almost already destroyed America as we know it.  Sara Palin's inexperience is absolutely NOT what I have against her.  If she had the other qualities, which I don't believe she does, I would vote for her although I think she might consider gettingt busy studying as even I knew the name of the General in Afghanastan.  More "experience" in Washington D.C. is exactly what we DO NOT need.
Another thought s/m

While I'm on a housecleaning campaign, the only woman I find more distasteful than Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton is Nancy Pelosi.  She had her friends need to GO.


STILL VOTING A WRITE-IN VOTE FOR LOU DOBBS!!!! and T. Boone Pickens.


I thought about it some more and

here's what I think:  IF Obama is elected, then look out for the White Supremists, a dispicable group, IMHO, right up there with the KKK.  Now........how racist am I?   I hate these racist issues no matter what color they come from.  We are ALL God's children, yellow, red, black and white, we are precious in his sight.  So why can't the Black Power AND the White Supremsts let it go already?????  Why can't we be just AMERICANS, not African-Americans, not Vietnamese-Americans, not Irish-Americans, not Chinese-Americans.......just AMERICANS?????????????  Can you answer me that?  Oh, I know, it's politically correct to say AFRICAN-Americans.  Nonsense.


VOTING A WRITE-IN VOTE FOR LOU DOBBS!!!


Just when I thought there could not
possibly be anyone more cartoonish than W. -- and there she is!
Just a thought
I am suspect of everything I hear and most everything I see when it comes to politics.  I saw some of these people speaking with the media.  If they were bribed, whiy do you suppose they got in front of the TV cameras.  Our politicians (notice pleural) are so corrupt I wouldn't put anything past them to try to swing the vote and people like blind sheep just follow along.
just a thought...
what's sad and pathetic is that the press everywhere, not just America, reports what stirs people up.  the fact that most Americans are working and struggling to make ends meet and put food on the table, and try their best to do what is right and make choices based on what is best for our country, is not considered newsworthy.  So what everyone sees is the few loonies who are not at all representative of the majority of Americans, but isn't it fun watching them on the news!  It will be a huge relief when this election is behind us, whatever the outcome. 
i never thought of it that way
"They sure go to a lot of trouble to fight against something they don't believe in."

gourdpainter - i definitely will remember this; it applies to many areas of life where one should stop the conflict and just 'be'. is it the painting of gourds that lends itself to such peace and sagacity? if so, i will begin painting them today! your wise observations never fail to enllighten and many times amuse. when i see your tag, i know the post will be worth reading!
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no it's not but thought
share their experiences... i did not demand... just asked if anyone is willing to share...
i thought
that meant "see message"... please correct me if i'm wrong.
I thought that for a while but....sm
I still think a lot of bad things about Obama and his aquaintances, however I don't think he is the antichrist. He may be a predecessor or an accomplice? But the thing is this - the US isn't the center of the Universe - the antichrist doesn't have to happen to be OUR president. When the end happens it will be nationwide, not just in the US. Many countries have been suffering unbearably for decades and even centuries. Look at the starving children in Africa and all the suffering all over the world. Certainly I desperately do not want us to suffer as well, but we are not the center of the Universe and just because we may end up suffering doesn't mean that is Armageddon. If so, then I guess these other poor countries have been in Armageddon for a long time. I am sure it is all related to the UN though, and someone is bound to emerge in the not so distant future who is the antichrist, but I don't really think Obama is him.