I think you nailed it. And they are VERY creepy.
Posted By: Reader on 2005-09-25
In Reply to: Okay, get a grip on your emotions.... - Observer
And I agree that it's best to just ignore them and not even read their posts. It's obvious we're dealing with a person (doubtful people) who's very seriously disturbed and is in dire need of professional help.
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You nailed it.
That's exactly what's happening to it. It's being hijacked by the conservative in your face folks in every aspect. Okay if you're just expressing a political opinion. NOT okay if you're in jeopardy of losing your job and spoke honestly while placing misguided trust in the owner of this site.
I think you nailed it.
I think they're starting to figure out that prices for everyday goods all over this country are on the rise after Katrina, that they can't afford to fill up their gas tanks any more, and they're probably trying to figure out how they're going to heat their homes this winter. They probably feel very much like the cornered animals they are acting like. And they can't EVER even CONSIDER that their hero in the White House isn't lifting a finger to help them. In addition, more and more former Bush supporters are waking up every day.
So they come here and spew their venom and release some of the boiling rage and anger and hate that's overflowing inside of them, and they attack people who are basically in the same boat as they are in, people who are independent thinkers and don't worship false cowboys in the oval office.
Why is it she gets nailed
for this and could potentially lose her seat but Obama mentioned people clinging to their guns and religion and no one seems to give a rats behind about what he said. Obama said he wanted to "spread the wealth" and instead of having him explain that exactly.....his campaign has attacked an innocent American man instead. Spreading the wealth is socialism yet when Obama was linked with that word....it was the pubs that got blasted for it and not Obama when Obama is the one that said "spread the wealth around."
I'm so sick and tired of one-sided point of views. She screwed up. She apologized. You've got Biden on TV saying stupid crap all the time and that is okay. He is a democrat. It just sickens me. I've seen Michele on other interviews and what she says is very good. She is a smart lady, but she screwed up and the media and the dems are devouring her.
You have morons like Nancy Pelosi, Reid, Dodd, Barney Frank, Murtha, Biden saying stupid crap and doing stupid stuff all the time....but that is always overlooked.
You nailed it, GP.
Congress was "snookered" again by Bush with this immediate economic "crisis," just as they were "snookered" into the Iraq war "mushroom cloud" crisis. ![](http://forum.mtstars.com/smileys/tickedoff.gif)
Nailed again...........
Palin Nailed in another Ethics Scandal
Award-winning journalist, filmmaker and historian
Alaska Governor Sarah Palin today settled a state ethics complaint, filed against her in Alaska last October, by agreeing to pay back the state approximately $6,800 for nine trips claimed for her children to various functions paid for by Alaska's tax payers.
The ethics complaint was originally filed during last year's presidential election by retired electrical lineman Frank Gwartney, from Anchorage, who called the travel expenses claimed by Palin "such a blatant misuse of state money."
A second-generation Alaskan native whose parents arrived on the Kenai Peninsula in the 1930s, Gwartney said he filed the complaint simply because he was "sick and tired of corruption in Alaska's government." He also charged the governor with altering travel records to indicate that her family members were on "official business" while traveling with her.
The response from the McCain-Palin campaign at the time was to attack Gwartney:
This is a purely political stunt less than six days from the election that not only violates the law that requires Personnel Board complaints to be confidential, but raises serious questions about the motives of Mr. Gwartney, a stated Obama supporter. Governor Palin has always acted with the highest standards of ethics.
Apparently not.
Today's "settlement agreement," as the document is titled, involves no admission of wrongdoing, blaming the expenditures on "little statutory or regulatory guidance."
Palin contended that her administration viewed the travel expenses as "official First Family business" and that Palin only takes her children on the taxpayers' nickel "to events they're invited to."
Nonetheless, according to the Anchorage Daily News, lawyer Tim Petumenos, who was hired by the state Personnel Board to investigate the complaint (and who earlier exonerated Palin in the Troopergate affair), found that for nine trips claimed by Palin for her children, "the personal benefit outweighed the public benefit."
In a letter addressed directly to Gwartney, Puetnomos declared:
Following your complaint, I conducted an investigation and concluded that portions of your complaint merited action. A settlement with Governor Palin has been reached in lieu of the filing of an accusation...
According to Petumenos it didn't matter if Palin's children had been "invited" to an event or not. Included in those expenses where "the personal benefit outweighed the public" included the cost of Palin's daughter Piper flying on a state plane to the start of the Iron Dog race in 2008--a race in which husband Todd Palin was participating as a contestant.
It has not been a good week for the Last Frontier's ambitious governor. The ethics settlement comes in the immediate aftermath of Palin turning in her state-purchased Chevy Surburban and announcing that she had to pay taxes on reimbursements she received for living in her Wasilla home.
Only yesterday, Palin's chief political flak Bill McAllister held a news conference in which he declared:
The news media have been focused on the $8,500 the governor has collected in per diem annually while working in Anchorage, almost 50 miles from her home in Wasilla. But aside from the fact that the governor is legally entitled to these payments, the media have missed the larger point that the governor actually has saved the state money by not living year-round in the official residence in Juneau....Expense reports for per diem, lodging and travel for the governor and the first gentleman show a savings of more than $900,000 for calendar years 2007 and 2008, compared with the last two years of the previous administration.
Say what? Didn't Palin run against her predecessors as a reformer? And now she's comparing her record to theirs?
In fact, Palin spent more annually in 2007 on "conference fees" and "meals and incidentals" than either of her two predecessors in any given fiscal year.
What Palin, McAllister and those entrenched around her apparently don't get is that the Governor touts herself as a "reformer" and "fiscal conservative," while she herself has tapped the public trough frequently for her family's private benefit. Their hypocrisy apparently knows no bounds.
"Governor Palin ran on an ethics platform," said Gwartney from his home in Anchorage, "but she's no different than the rest of them. Apparently, she thinks she was elected Queen."
HAHAHA Man, you nailed her exactly! LOL nm
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Ha Ha! You nailed that right on the noggin!
Great job! I couldn't have said it better myself!
YOU NAILED it, mostly but bush is NO leader
he is a puppet put in place by the powers that TRULY run the country - and he is merely advancing U.S. imperalist foreign policies.
THE COMMENTS HE MADE WERE DONE ON PURPOSE: He was putting the world on notice of our (US) intents.
When RICE says "Iran is an obstacle to US goals" the translation is this: IRAN IS IN THE WAY OF U.S. HEGEMONY.
If Americans don't wake up soon to what THEY ARE PAYIN FOR WITH THEIR TAX DOLLARS they are going to be paying the price for tolerating a corrupt goverment that will be checked by other major powers (like China), to who?whom? we are the MOST indebted.
Creepy is as creepy does.
You have a post on the conservative board detailing how you saved a certain poster's posts, plus you have another post saying how creeped out you are by us.
WHAT DOES THAT MAKE YOU?
Not near as creepy
as the great unwashed passed out all over the Washington mall this weekend.
This is creepy.
http://barackobamaantichrist.blogspot.com/
What's creepy?
Seeing artists create an image of Obama with a halo around his head.
That's creepy.
Too creepy!
Next thing you know the kids will be wearing brown uniforms, saluting Obama and telling on their parents!
anon
Wow, talk about creepy. sm
First of all, the above poster failed (I am sure it was a honest mistake) to say why I left the board. Context certainly means something. You remind me of the creep who was stalking me and was keeping a running tab of all my posts (much of what is posted above are not my posts). That's just weird. As far as serving, I was a military brat for a whole lot of years and I believe it is service. But of course, anything to label someone a liar. You are sad little people. I won't bother you anymore because obviously, your brain has limited capacity for anything except hatred, bitterness, and all that goes with it. Have a nice evening accomplishing nothing but your little hate party and bitterness regalia.
It is creepy to read this
post and see the similarities to what has gone on with Iraq, all the lying, the imminent danger part, the threat that they (Vietnam at that time - Saddam Hussain at this time) posed to us, etc. You are right, Iraq is not the first time we have been bamboozled by our elected officials. At any rate, this is off point. I was not posting to discuss the Johnson presidency's failings of which there were many. I merely pointed out that it is possible, as the president of these United States, to be at a site of natural disaster in your own country PDQ. That was something he did right, that and the civil rights movement. On the domestic scene he did some good things and he did them in spite of the fact that he knew he had, in his words - lost the south for democrats from this point on - that being in reference to his civil rights legislation. But again, I do not wish to debate Johnson's legacies, the good, the bad, the ugly. I simply said that 40 years ago it was possible for a president to Be There for his people.
I did not find it creepy at all -
If you look at any of my videos of my children in their school programs when they were young, they were always staring at the director and trying so hard to make sure they got everything just right and yes, they looked "glassy eyed" and robotic. The hand gestures?
Well for anyone that knows any sign language, that was what that was all about and yes, when you start learning signs you look scared and uncomfortable doing them, not sure if you are remembering right.
You can make anything "creepy" if you want to - this is just another example of trying to find something somewhere.
And as usual, I am going to say I am not democratic, I am not republican - just stating my opinion.
This is very creepy. I just wish more people could
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this talk is CREEPY
All this Sue Ann admiration and adoration is just sick, sick, sick and oh-so CREEPY. You act like she was Mary Mag or something. EEEEECCCCH. !!@@$%$%$$$%$%$
You sound like Big Brother! Creepy!
Obama song - way too creepy
Anyone seen the kids singing the Obama song. It's way way creepy. They're all dressed in their little uniform and doing hand gestures and you can definitely tell the kids do not know what the lyrics mean. It was on the Obama website but after so many negative comments they took it off. One commenter on AOL wrote "it is eerie. What on earth are children doing praying to a candidate? I'm not sure what bothers me the most: Is it their glassy-eyed stares? Is it their Children of the Corn-fed good looks? Their hyptonized vibrato-less tones? Someone else wrote "This has more than a little whiff of Havana and Moscow about it". And another commenter wrote "These kids are already being taught to worship Obama as if he were some kind of god. That's what kids in North Korea, Cuba, Saddam Hussein's old Iraq, and other totalarian regimes were taught to do as well. The purpose is if they grow up seeing their leaders as god-like they're less likely to rise up against them." (now that's one of the best observations I've read).
Anyway...here is the link and you can see for yourselves. Don't watch it before bed unless you don't mind nightmares.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=0LsrtppY2Dc
I find statements like this creepy!
Just for the record, Obama is not a messiah or the messiah, he is not our savior, though he tries portrays himself as just that. He is not operating some elevated, enlightened plane on which the rest of us are not fit to tread. He is merely a man wrongfully elected into the most powerful position in the world. Forgive me if my fears and concerns aren't assuaged by the fact that he ordered a chili dog for lunch!
He wasn't "wrongfully elected." The majority of the people spoke and, for once, their votes were counted honestly. He didn't need to be selected. He was rightfully elected.
The Bushies are the "worshippers." Those who voted for Obama are "supporters" of better futures of their children and grandchildren. It just so happens that that hope -- yes, HOPE, the new Neocon four-letter curse word -- is coming in the form of a man who can, at the very least, form complete sentences, for whom English is not a second language, someone who doesn't claim the "have mores" are his "base," and someone who hasn't claimed to have a direct line to GOD.
Oh, yeah, and he just happens to be BLACK, as well. So he carries even a higher burden than any other white man would be forced to carry. He's intelligent enough to know that this is a historic moment in the USA, which is another reason I believe he won't mess it up.
I've seen the look in his eyes when his wife and children are in his presence. He is truly humbled by them. It would take quite a lot to convince me that he would endanger them (or their futures) in any way. He isn't arrogant. He doesn't publicly say he doesn't CARE what people think because he's the "Decider," and I'm pretty sure he is aware that fish and man CAN and HAVE coexisted for quite some time now.
All you Obama haters, to me, are truly the creepy ones. ![](http://forum.mtstars.com/smileys/sad.gif)
What is creepy is people following in lockstep behind Obama...
and not questioning anything about him. HIs associations, his Marxist leanings...none of that seems to matter to any of you. And THAT to ME is creepy.
I have posted several good things about McCain. I am 100% on board with a candidate who says he will appoint Democrats and Independents to his cabinet and try to get Washington working together again and remembering that they work for US, the people, not to promote their careers and line their pockets. You bet I am 100% on board for that. That is all that will fix that stagnation in washington. McCain has tried to do that his entire career. Palin tried to do it in Alaska. I am 100% on board for cutting pork spending, so is he. I am 100% on board for looking at all the entitlement programs and killing the ones that are not working. I am on board for keeping corporate America healthy because they provide 80% of the jobs in this country. I don't have anything against anyone who has worked their way up, had a good idea and it grew into millions (Bill Gates, Windows for instance). I don't think Bill Gates owes me a dime of what he worked so hard to build. But he is also a major philantropist and supports many worthy causes. The government does not need to extract money from him and redistribute it to people who do not pay taxes in the first place, which encourages them to stay where they are in the lowest economic class. If he really cared about those people he would be figuring out ways to elevate them from that class instead of putting his foot on their neck to keep them there. All socialism ends up doing is killing free enterprise and eventually the government controls everything, the middle class disappears forever, and all the money is at the top..in the government, who doles it out to the people like they are children. Cuba has not done so well under socialism. Venezuela has not done so well under socialism. But you are ready to put a man into office who wants that same thing for THIS country. To me, THAT is creepy.
Again with the Bush doctrine. You really need to read up on that. Even Democrat pundits are honest enough to say that was an unfair question.
As to his glasses...if you watched him interview other people...he does not do that. And he does not pull the chairs so close knees touch. That is all orchestrated. And we did not see the whole interview. I would like to see what is on the cutting room floor.
One thing I have to say...when they walked out by the lake, and he was more like Charlie Gibson, a person, talking to Sarah Palin, a person...actually smiling at her...yep, tho he would never admit it...I think Charlie was impressed by her too. lol.
I don't hate Barack Obama. That is ridiculous. You have to know someone to hate them. I think he is probably a nice person; he certainly has a beautiful family. That does not make him ready to be President. I just don't agree with what he wants to do to this country. I think his ideas are wrong for this country. He leans for far left...that yes, it's creepy.
We should all vote according to what we believe is right for the country. Another thing John McCain said that I truly appreciate...Country First. He and palin are the only ones doing so, in my estimation.
Am I the only one that finds all this Obama worship creepy? SM
A few days ago someone posted below how Obama was "just like one of us" because he ordered a chili dog and cheese fries for lunch with the mayor of DC! The idea, I guess, being that he isn't really like us, he's better than us, on a higher plane I guess, and that we should all swoon at his presence and revel in the idea that he could possibly be like us and eat a freaking chili dog! Am I right?!?!?!
And then there is the countdown to his inauguration. And can I just remind everyone it is an inauguration NOT a coronation. The man is not going to be king!
I've noticed this Obama worship for a while what with Oprah calling him "The One" on her show during the election race and the fervor at his rallies during the campaign, you know the swooning and fainting and the chanting "yes we can" like it was some sort of evangelical tent revival. It was as if all reason was lost in the euphoria of this "man." At first I tried to chalk it up to the excitement of the election. But it continues now even after he has won the election. Not only is it creepy, it is very, very dangerous.
Just a simple Google search of obama blogs, I find this and many others with similar sentiments:
"Barack Obama isn't really one of us. Not in the normal way, anyway... Many spiritually advanced people I know (not coweringly religious, mind you, but deeply spiritual) identify Obama as a Lightworker, that rare kind of attuned being who has the ability to lead us not merely to new foreign policies or health care plans or whatnot, but who can actually help usher in a new way of being on the planet, of relating and connecting and engaging with this bizarre earthly experiment. These kinds of people actually help us evolve. They are philosophers and peacemakers of a very high order, and they speak not just to reason or emotion, but to the soul."
I'm not sure who the author is, but the author and this country has lost touch with reality and lost touch with God to the extent that people are looking to Obama as some sort of god. Not believing in God doesn't mean you believe in nothing, it means you'll believe in anything and look around you, there is a great many people ready to believe in anything, even a black man from a corrupt Chicago political machine with a nice smile and pretty words.
Just for the record, Obama is not a messiah or the messiah, he is not our savior, though he tries portrays himself as just that. He is not operating some elevated, enlightened plane on which the rest of us are not fit to tread. He is merely a man wrongfully elected into the most powerful position in the world. Forgive me if my fears and concerns aren't assuaged by the fact that he ordered a chili dog for lunch!
Actually, I find the Obama hatred creepy!
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This is creepy. Check out the date on this video clip.sm
I remember when all the christians were freaking out over this speech.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6012144166694761701
No more creepy than you to be fixed on her breasts - ewww back at ya.
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This is creepy and making the hair on my neck stand up
This just sends a chill down my spine - and to think these are the kinds of people Obama "hangs with and belongs to"
Quote: This counter revolution (those who go against what "they" want) could best be guarded against by creating and establishing re-education centers in the Southwest where we would take all the people that need to be needed to be re-educated into the new way of thinking and teach them how things were going to be. I asked what is going to happen to those people who we can't re-educate that are die-hard capitalists and the reply was that they would have to be eliminated.
So that's what the person who could possibly be the next President believes???
Totally scary times lie ahead for us if he is elected.
Well, I gotta tell ya - nothing is more creepy to me than Ann Coulter - now that's plain SCARY!
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