I think there are a lot of people who are starting to...sm
Posted By: oldtimer on 2008-10-20
In Reply to: Yes it is - Just me
feel just as you do. I have gotten to the point where I just don't have the time or the energy to answer some of the ridiculous accusations against Obama.
I realize that Obama is not perfect, none of us is, and in the course of campaigning the truth gets stretched on both sides. However, never have I seen the like of the untrue garbage being spewed with such hate as this campaign by the republican party. It seems that the more desperate the campaign gets the worse and the more laughable the accusations get. One big thing that I have gotten from this campaign, as well as the financial meltdown, is that the people in control think that the rest of us are stupid and will buy anything they dish out to us. There are actually people that think everything that is on the internet is true. Not true! We need to keep questioning everything and hold our politicians feet to the fire, look for reliable sources of information not just ones that tell us what we want to hear, double check everything, and, lastly, try to be nicer to each other. Amen.
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I am afraid he is going to let people down, already starting.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/31/obama-lays-plans-kill-expectations-election-victory/
Obama plans to kill expectations.
People are starting to see that the amazing O
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people are starting to pay attention. Obama's lead
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And I am just starting, and the Big O just
one more brainwash session. It's a good thing he is depending on the young folks for his votes!
and I was just starting to like the guy
what with all his stories of cowboys and Mandela and movies and all that. He'll be hosting a show on Fox next, you watch.
I am really starting to think all you have to do to get
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Starting a world war?
No, your President is doing that for you. 
I thought most were starting to know better than this. sm
1000 lies later and you still believe the bull. McCain is Bush on steroids. No wonder everybody is calling Americans a bunch of sheep. All I can say is you will get what you deserve. The "free" will not be around much longer, and you will not have money either once the economy crashes,and it will.
hil's starting to look a lot like Huckabee
her best hope is to be Obama's VP at this point. I think with that ticket they would be unstoppable
Thanks sam - at least I have a starting point - nm
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Thugocracy is starting already...nm
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Looks like the fights are already starting in the WH
between Pelosi and the O.
"The California Democrat is pushing the president-elect to make good on a campaign promise that attracted some of the harshest criticism during the election -- that Mr. Obama is a typical tax-and-spend Democrat who would raise taxes once in office.
Mr. Obama has fought that label, emphasizing that any tax increase would be directed at those making more than $250,000. However, since the election, Mr. Obama has been reluctant even to raise taxes on people making that much.
Lawrence Summers, Mr. Obama's choice for director of the National Economic Council, signaled again Sunday that repealing the Bush tax cuts would not be a priority.
"Our overall focus is going to be on increasing spending," Mr. Summers said in a broadcast interview. "Beyond that, there's going to be a substantial tax cut for the American people."
See article.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123229863849393891.html
OMG. JTBB, I'm starting to believe
you're a blind dem. The aboe poster stated his/her thoughts and most of them are true to form. If you don't belive in your country, you are not patriotic. Just because some of us don't believe O is going to do a good job is not a reason to call someone a loon.
I decided, after he was elected, to give him a chance, bvut all I can see is that he is digging us deeper in the hole. I though the bill passed the other day would help some people who were in deep trouble even though they did everything right, would get help...but, again, O is just helping the people who really didn't deserve help. I think you should wake up and start reading a bit more and/or listening a bit more to those who know what is really going on in this country.
A bit of advice... if you have any money in your bank over $100K, you best get it out of there. Although the FDIC is promising a guarantee up to $250K temporarily, the money will not be guaranteed if the country goes broke IMHO.
Starting at the top and working their way down........sm
the Bill of Rights? If the government can do this, you can well believe they can strip other religious freedoms and move right on down the line to the right to bear arms and whatever else they would like to strip away. Thomas Jefferson said it best (loosely quoted) - "A government that is big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to can take everything you have."
Starting to understand, yes, why O got in.
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Why don't you find it for yourself, starting with the
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How about apologizing for starting...(sm)
a needless war and trying to drag Europe into it? Showing pics of soldiers graves does nothing but bring to mind the effects of waging this unjust war. How about apologizing for not doing something about our economy until it was too late (which affected the whole world)?
So, you are defending what? Bush's war on terror/axis of evil? Torture? Lying to the American public as well as the UN? Or perhaps our inadequacy in successfully handling our economy since the start of the Reagan era?
Conservative starting trouble
It is obvious this is a conservative trying to start trouble on the liberal board. Who cares what you think about Senator Clinton? Cast your vote and lets see how the country thinks..A level headed calm thinking democrat or a rash testosterone so out of touch with reality dangerous republican. Oprah had a show on universal health insurance a few weeks ago and a professor was on and stated that when the conservatives want to scare the people or distract from programs to benefit the people, they say it is socialism. Well, what I want to know is, what do you call the health insurance program the Congress has? That most definitely is government health insurance, so I guess socialism?. Well, if it is good enough for the Congress, it is good enough for the people. What do you call the govt programs that build bridges, roads, dams, run schools, etc., etc., etc..? Socialism? The govt must help the people of this country. We pay our taxes and we have a right to govt programs to better the lives of the people of America. I am so sick of conservatives and thankfully most of America is too.
That's like starting a forum for pet lovers
And then saying they can only talk about pets they don't have any more, not their current ones! Or a car enthusiasts forum where people can only speak of vehicles they used to own, not what they currently drive.
What's the point in this forum, then, to only talk about the future or the past, not the present? How ridiculous!
i like the idea of starting at the bottom
giving the common people a break rather than sticking us from behind. I don't know what the monetary amount should be per mortgage. I heard Whoopi this morning throwing out the idea of 25% to the people who have taken out mortgages since 2003. One of the gals on the view also talked about these people who were given these loans that were very low interest at the beginning and then after a few years had the interest raised. Why can't the mortgage companies offer them a lower interest rate again? At least they would be getting something!! They are all greedy. I think the idea of bailing the mortgage companies out is disgusting. I realize people should never get in over their heads to begin with but these mortgage companies and any government official who had a hand in it were out for themselves, thinking in the end they were going to win..... no loss to them.... well guess what? they got a little too greedy and I think rather than slapping their little hands, THEY should be the ones to pay the price. I don't care if it's Rush's idea, Whoopi's, etc... How about for once our government listens to the PEOPLE of this country rather than looking out for their own butts.
Ohio is already starting to vote
Just heard on the news that in Ohio they have already starting holding the election and people can vote for president. I don't know who this benefits and don't care at this point, but I thought election day was 11/4. Can someone explain why people are allowed to vote ahead of time.
Starting at the community level......... sm
is a great thing to do and I am proud of you for the work you do. I have read here before some of the things you are involved in, and you are making a difference in your community. I'll be right here, ready and willing! LOL
It's a meltdown, and heads are starting
to explode!
Takes Americans a while, but they are starting to
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They're not happy unless they are starting trouble.
They don't want to debate. All they want to do is attack and chase away people who don't agree with them. They don't want liberals on their board, but they refuse to practice what they preach.
This is the reason the administrator created a conservative and liberal board. They have their own board, but that's not enough for them. It's typical of how they must control everyone's thoughts and deeds and even which God they worship.
Cat-food's starting to look good. When that runs
I'm starting to feel a little cranky towards these folks
The Mormon Church.
I came across this article last night:
http://edition.cnn.com/2008/US/11/11/baptizing.dead.jews.ap/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
NEW YORK (AP) -- Holocaust survivors said Monday they are through trying to negotiate with the Mormon church over posthumous baptisms of Jews killed in Nazi concentration camps, saying the church has repeatedly violated a 13-year-old agreement barring the practice.
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In 1995, Mormons and Jews inked an agreement to limit the circumstances that allow for the proxy baptisms of Holocaust victims. Ending the practice outright was not part of the agreement and would essentially be asking Mormons to alter their beliefs, church Elder Lance B. Wickman said Monday in an interview with reporters in Salt Lake City.
We don't think any faith group has the right to ask another to change its doctrines," Wickman said. "If our work for the dead is properly understood ... it should not be a source of friction to anyone. It's merely a freewill offering."
The Mormon Church was also a major financial backer (I think THE major financial backer) of California Prop 8.
I am fully in favor of any religion observing their own doctrine within the bounds of the law. However, I also believe that their doctrine should be theirs and theirs alone. It cannot be an excuse or a reason for infringing on the civil or religious rights of others.
I'm starting to think you're punking us all, JTBB.
Really, fess up. You're just doing this for a laught, right? I mean, if you believed even 1/100th of the crappola you post here, you'd have to be either the most cultified brainwashed half-wit, or Obama's secret love child with a daddy fetish that's off the charts.
Everything O does makes you wet yourself with glee.
Anytime someone points out a legitimate beef with O, you become this juvenile neener-neener playground kid. Your arguments have absolutely no substance, yet you squat on plain hard facts when they are presented in a reasonable manner.
Or maybe you're just really, really high up in Oblahma's confidentiality circle. Like the Czar of MT Mesage Board Enlightenment or something. Do you get a twitter from the oval O every morning with the day's 'talking points' or something?
I'd love to introduce you to a certain lady on the message boards of the company I work for. She's an outright nutjob, and her parroted words are nearly identical to yours. Every time someone says, 'hey, whatever happened to that whole transparency thing' or 'didn't he say he was going to cut the pork and work across the aisle' she barks out the old Leftist Lunatic Word-A-Day calendar and spiels her precooked rant. (Her current fad is waterboarding.)
Oh, oh, I know! Maybe you're just a little bitty ACORN who hopes to grow up into a big bushy tree one day. Is that it? Honestly, I want to know. Cause, in all honesty, if you were actually SERIOUS about the junk you post here, you'd be a really, REALLY scary person.
Please just assure us all you're just havin' a laugh, and then we can all laugh along. You can't possibly be a mean-spirited as you come off in your posts. No one can, right?
Maybe you should spend more time hugging puppies or treat yourself to a nice ice-cream cone or something. You know? Lighten up and enjoy life. At this point, you're about the only one left dragging around that tired old YES WE CAN sign, and it must get awful heavy.
I'm sending happy thoughts your way.
Why are you starting these dumb @$$ threads on the liberal board?
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You are losing it gt, starting to scream and rant. Best rest now. nm
Okay, well at the risk of starting a world war, that link does not work.
It says Page Not Found. It appear Starcat was able to see it. Evidently, it really IS a left-right problem.
If you bother to check, economy starting crashing
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AIG Employees Starting to Give Back Bonuses
WASHINGTON -- The chief executive officer of failed insurance conglomerate AIG told lawmakers Wednesday that he has asked executives to give back at least half of their bonuses.
Edward Libby, chairman and CEO of the American International Group, said that some workers there already have volunteered to return the money.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/18/aig-chairman-faces-congressional-grilling-bonuses/
Link August 2007!. Their system is starting
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Is Obama starting to embrace McCain's thoughts and plans?
I just heard a little speech on the news at a rally made by the O. All of a sudden, he seems to be mirroring McC's ideas about regulation, the bail out, etc. I noticed him saying things before (and after the debate) that McC had first campaigned for, but didn't say anything because I really thought I was hearing things.
Now I'm flipping channels to see if I can hear this again.
Sure starting to look like she wasn't fully vetted and chosen last minute as a token female...nm
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I agree, that goes for both sides. I don't agree with those starting trouble over...sm
on your board either, but then some of you come and take it out on the people who only post here and we have nothing to do with the fights over there.
I enjoy communicating with liberals and occasionally do learn something from conservative posters, so I refuse to let the driveby, no moniker, one-sided finger pointers, self-indulging posters drive me off.
is the the starting point or the end point for the middle class?
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So you and your daughter have no problem with people who wish for people and their children sm
to burn in hell, call people's children ugly, etc. etc. Well, you might not BE gt, but you might as well be. Even the liberals don't agree with gt, or hadn't you noticed? You might want to check that out and while you are at it, the conservative board has been a regular play pen since the liberals stopped their hateful dive bombing. In fact, some really good conversations are taking place over there between both sides, which DOES NOT happen on this site.
Bored people are BORING people.
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Is that how your people justify killing people?
So then you only like to where people who say what you believe have to say.
Pretty sad. At least the consevatives here weather the storms and stay. That pretty much says a lot about you and them, too. It's sure not like you guys never took pot shots over there. Of course, I am sure it wasn't YOU. Right.
gee, 100,000 people vs. 400 people
100,000 = anti-war protesters
400 = anti-anti-war protesters
Statistics from today's White House rally.
Now shoo, run along home now back to your hole or cave or whatever you crawled out of.
I consider the people..
and programs I mentioned fair and balanced. Meet the Press, Hardball, Tyler Carlson on CNN, Face The Nation. They said that they would not accept Drudge as reliable information, not I although I don't but my opinion carries less weight than that of those mentioned above.
100 people
This was a SMALL gathering, and as stated above, Jews tend to support abortion rights more than any other group (15-20%). So this small group hardly speaks for the majority of the Jewish Community.
She has none of those people that we know of ... sm
She just got announced. I am not saying that there is anything in her background, but it is early and I am sure if there is one iota of a person in her background then we will here about it. For this whole experience thing, what have we got in the past 8 years and the past 8 before that with all of the so-called experience the Rep. think we need.
Why are we still bring up Rev. Wright? Can't we just move past that? We've heard it all.
Sorry, people....
The blame for the way Katrina was handled lays completely with the democratic Louisiana governor, Kathleen Blanco, and the democratic New Orleans mayor, Ray Nagin.
They didn't follow the protocol for disasters.
However, now Bobby Jinda, Republican governor, is in charge, and he is handling things the way they should have been back then.....
Why are people so
focused on outward appearances? It is a person's heart that shows true beauty......not their face. A face can change over time, but a pure heart remains and that is what is important.
Are these the same people
who can afford their cigarettes and beer?
people should have been more
people make financial mistakes... perhaps some people wouldn't be hurting so badly right now if they had been living within their financial means to begin with.
Why can't more people see that?
My husband has been saying that same thing for the past few years. I am so sick and tired of working so hard to make a good life for my family, only to have *big government* take half of my money to give to people who won't lift a finger and want government to take care of them. It just makes me sick! I don't know why so many people are so blind to this.
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