I see the double standard is alive and well....
Posted By: sam on 2008-08-25
In Reply to: No, let's don't. Let's stay on task. - We're talking about the 2008 election. nm
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No, actually I don't have a double standard...sm
But there is one, especially since Bush and Co. made such a big deal about flip flopping in '04. I remember the exact words from the debate about Kerry. *Kerry was for it [the war] before he was against it.*
I guess the same applies to Bush on the immigration bill that he was for. Again, just sayin'.
Double standard, indeed.
It all depends on whose ox is being gored.
No double standard
We're not forcing your children to pray or even attend church. Our children are being forced to have homosexual teachers teach them this crap and even have "Days of Silence" to "honor" a perverted practice. Our children can't even mutter the word "God" without getting expelled. Double standard--my asscream.
No double standard here. I am not a
religionist. I practice no religion. Christianity is not a religion. It is a relationship with Jesus Christ. Put down religion all you want. I'll agree with you.
Want to tackle Catholicsm? Islam? Hindu? Buddhism? Scientology? Global warming? Emergent church? Contemplative spirituality? Any other of the myriad religions?
Okay...let's talk about the double standard...
on both sides of the aisle. Let's talk about Teddy Kennedy. Let's talk about several members of the Kennedy family where influence peddling got them out of more severe cases than you are describing here. He is still in the senate and will be until the day he dies, probably. It is funny to me how people can see the splinter in the other guy's eye but not the timber in their own.
What about the Clinton double standard? What about the Obama double standard of dealing with a slum lord (and knowing it) and at the same time castigating other slum lords in Chicago? That seems pretty hypocritical to me, but I avoided it until the tear up Cindy McCain stuff started. You guys act as if the McCains invented using wealth to get out of legal problems. I refer you again to the Kennedys...
Good grief, people.
I was just illustrating the double standard....
which is glaring. Obama's pastor doesn't matter but hers does...and try to justify it by saying Republicans are in the spotlight this week. Good grief....do you hear yourself? lol
There's that pesky double standard again.....nm
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You're right, it is a double standard.
They should ALL have term limits.
JTBB is all about the double standard
In JTBB's world, a conservative has no rights!
Doesn't the double standard bother you?
It's not her addiction that bothers me it's the stealing and the double standard by her husband. McCain puts other people in jail and rips apart families for drug crimes. I bet there are at least 100 infants in foster care in AZ right now because their mom tested +.
Must be not. Double standard applies. Crickets.
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I don't think I understand the double standard here for Palin...
Palin says Obama is "just" a community organizer and unqualified for the job, but we aren't supposed to say anything about her unbelievable lack of knowledge. She showed that all by herself w/o the help of the campaign.
She tried to tie Obama to terrorists and says he's a socialist, marxist, and I don't even know what all else. And yet she should not have any scrutiny when she has video out there of her with the witch doctor.
Fox News can take a video of a fist bump between PRESIDENT-ELECT Obama and his wife and call it some kind of terroist signal, and MSNBC is not supposed to point out just how ridiculous this is?
Fox News, yet again strikes and plasters a bottom of the screen banner over video of Michelle Obama calling her a "baby mama," and we aren't supposed to question Palin's fifth child that was soooo questionable.
If you want to be mad at somebody about talking about Sarah Palin, try the republican party. They are the ones who ruined her. They are the ones talking about how much her clothes were. They are the ones talking about the show up at the door in a towel incident.
I didn't hear any of you complaining when there was a joke about Obama....what's up with that?
Double standard is right... and loves to call other
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Nope, and I realize trying to point out the double standard...
to a Democrat is an exercise in futility but I thought I would give it a shot....
Yeah, the double standard is pretty amazing. nm
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Double standard doesn't cover Obama
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First you say its alive like your cat is alive...
and then you say it is not alive. If it is not alive, why does it continue to grow? Do you think murder is wrong? If the baby survives abortion and is actually breathing it has a soul, right? So when Obama votes to let the infant die, he is condoning negligent homicide? Right?
The KKK is alive an well in the US...sm
Just on CNN, a woman was killed at a KKK initiation. She was recruited on the internet.
Man alive.....there's no winning!
Now it's the republicans fault the bailout went through. Now, if they had held firm and NOT voted for it, and things continued to look bad for a while, you would have blamed them for NOT voting for the handout.
You just can't make up your mind.
alive, maybe, but no soul
I don't believe the fetus has a soul regardless of whether it moves or not. My cat moves too and I love her, but I don't fool myself into thinking she is a spiritual being. I have 2 children and yes it was exciting to feel them move, but honestly, it is just not the same for most Jews. We don't have baby showers, buy things for babies, decorate the room, etc. until after the birth when the child becomes "alive."
Hey - did you know that old bird is still alive?
seriously, she's like 96. I bet she gets really offended when she hears people saying that her son is too old to be president or that he'll croak while he's in office. I just assumed she was dead. Learn something new everyday!
Of course racism is alive and well...sm
One explanation, and I know many people who did this....people wanted to be able to say that they voted in the first black man into the white house. And that is all well and good, but they did it only to be able to say they voted him in. Period.
Obama is long on style, short on substance....and extremely short on experience.
We've elected someone who's about to get on the job training.
I didn't even know she was still alive!! nm
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Liberalism is alive and well
That's what I find so astounding. I go to blog sites and read intelligent, well-written critiques of seeded news articles - here, I am appalled by the lack of research and blatant racism wrapped in the American flag and flogged with the bible.
Won't be waiting around for your standard
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That should be our standard response to Sam! (nm)
No soup for you!
yes, about killing humans that are ALIVE
Not unborn ones...
Fairness Doctrine is Alive and Well
DH told me it's in our paper today, that Schumer is promoting it, but I couldn't find anything on line.
I did find a few articles and the one posted below is the most recent (by Sen. Inhofe) that I could find:
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/93765
Labor not held to same standard as
other parties in the negotiations, i.e., double standard. During the debates on TARP funds, aside from the parachutes, when were white collar salaries ever examined?
GetSmart used to say....it's the old "double standard" sm
missed it by....that much....
Let's see if I can get this straight..... if anyone called your candidate, "young, black, shiny, blemish-free guy (or....aka nappy headed young black guy)...."
(and by the way, I'm black, so I can say it....another double standard, huh.....)
wait a minute, wait a minute...wait.....that means we're racist...but you're not?
You're so full of left wing *people eater sheater* it comes pouring out in all your posts, vile and nasty.....is your outhouse all full up, and out of the Sears catalogue....hmmmmmm????
danger, will robinson, danger.......
bwahahahahahahaha......
your mission, Jim, if your willing to accept it, is to hit the enter key on this post.....otherwise, this tape will self destruct in 5 seconds.....5,4,3,2,1
oh.......nevermind....please disregard.....you wouldn't know a joke if it hit you on the you know whats it...
Nice 2 C fascism is alive and well in NeoCon USA.
Keep this up and the only thing Obama will have to do to win the election is keep breathing.
if the infant has been temporarily-alive-outside-the-womb
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If it is moving and a heart is beating its alive.
Your denial does not change that.
atrocities? Burned alive with saline....
sliced and diced and sucked out of the one place you should be SAFEST? Having a needle stuck in your neck and your brain sucked out? And you want to talk atrocities?? Puleezzee. Yeah..that's certainly just YOU...it certainly isn't me.
Obama proganda is alive and well in the U.S. and abroad....sm
He can do no wrong....ever.
If my grandparents and great parents were alive
They would slap me upside the head and say "Snap out of it. When I was your age I had to walk to school in the snow without a coat and shoes up hill - both ways". My grandmother would then call me pannywaste (whatever that is but when someone was wimpy she'd call them that), and my other grandmother would call me wimpy, whoos, or other words like that.
Our grandparents went through a depression, a couple of wars. They went hungry and went without. My grandfather told me his family was so poor he didn't even have shoes to go to school in. He had to wait for his brother to outgrow his so he could inherit them. They went through worse than us and they survived and they didn't have any government office telling them how to get through it.
I wonder if this new website was part of the spendulous plan (is this where our tax money is going?).
When are people who have any power to be able to do anything going to say enough is enough, your all fired. When people are inept and destroying a country (oops, mean corporation), it's time to fire them. Not them them spend more years in the seats continuing to put the country in ruins.
If my grandparents and great parents were alive
They would slap me upside the head and say "Snap out of it. When I was your age I had to walk to school in the snow without a coat and shoes up hill - both ways". My grandmother would then call me pannywaste (whatever that is but when someone was wimpy she'd call them that), and my other grandmother would call me wimpy, whoos, or other words like that.
Our grandparents went through a depression, a couple of wars. They went hungry and went without. My grandfather told me his family was so poor he didn't even have shoes to go to school in. He had to wait for his brother to outgrow his so he could inherit them. They went through worse than us and they survived and they didn't have any government office telling them how to get through it.
I wonder if this new website was part of the spendulous plan (is this where our tax money is going?).
When are people who have any power to be able to do anything going to say enough is enough, your all fired. When people are inept and destroying a country (oops, mean corporation), it's time to fire them. Not them them spend more years in the seats continuing to put the country in ruins.
Standard beautiy queen boilerplate
Most Americans don't have maps.
She stumbled on, saying that our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., uh, should help South Africa, it should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future, for us.
and such.
Anywhere in Scandinavia. Higher standard of living.
Well at least the blame agenda is still alive in the liberal movement. sm
Nice to see some things never change.
Yes, let's not forget the racism is alive and well today. Let's remember that...
when the media shows throngs of African-Americans rioting in the street.
don;t bother to read -standard Faux creed
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The (Illinois) Born Alive Infants Protection Act of 2002.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=107_cong_public_laws&docid=f:publ207.107
Obama blocked the Born Alive Infant Protection Act....sm
He said there was a law on the books in Illinois to protect these babies. In this article, he says there was a bill federally that he *would have* voted for. He killed the bill in Illinois by sitting on it as head of the Health and Human Services Committee. Which is it, Obama?
Excerpted from CNS News: Barack Obama is the most pro-abortion presidential candidate ever.
He is so pro-abortion that he refused as an Illinois state senator to support legislation to protect babies who survived late-term abortions...
...State and federal versions of this bill became an issue earlier this decade because of "induced labor abortion." This is usually performed on a baby with Down's Syndrome or another problem discovered on the cusp of viability. A doctor medicates the mother to cause premature labor. Babies surviving labor are left untreated to die.
Jill Stanek, who was a nurse at Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Ill., testified in the U.S. Congress in 2000 and 2001 about how "induced labor abortions" were handled at her hospital.
"One night," she said in testimony entered into the Congressional Record, "a nursing co-worker was taking an aborted Down's Syndrome baby who was born alive to our Soiled Utility Room because his parents did not want to hold him, and she did not have the time to hold him. I couldn't bear the thought of this suffering child lying alone in a Soiled Utility Room, so I cradled and rocked him for the 45 minutes that he lived."
In 2001, Illinois state Sen. Patrick O'Malley introduced three bills to help such babies. One required a second physician to be present at the abortion to determine if a surviving baby was viable. Another gave the parents or a public guardian the right to sue to protect the baby's rights. A third, almost identical to the federal Born Alive Infant Protection Act President Bush signed in 2002, simply said a "homo sapiens" wholly emerged from his mother with a "beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord or definite movement of voluntary muscles" should be treated as a "'person,' 'human being,' 'child' and 'individual.'"
Stanek testified about these bills in the Illinois Senate Judiciary Committee, where Obama served. She told me this week he was "unfazed" by her story of holding the baby who survived an induced labor abortion.
On the Illinois Senate floor, Obama was the only senator to speak against the baby-protecting bills. He voted "present" on each, effectively the same as a "no."
"Number one," said Obama, explaining his reluctance to protect born infants, "whenever we define a pre-viable fetus as a person that is protected by the Equal Protection Clause or the other elements in the Constitution, what we're really saying is, in fact, that they are persons that are entitled to the kinds of protections that would be provided to a -- a child, a 9-month old -- child that was delivered to term. That determination then, essentially, if it was accepted by a court, would forbid abortions to take place. I mean, it -- it would essentially bar abortions, because the Equal Protection Clause does not allow somebody to kill a child, and if this is a child, then this would be an anti-abortion statute."
That June, the U.S. Senate voted 98-0 in favor of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act (although it failed to become law that year). Pro-abortion Democrats supported it because the following language was added: "Nothing in this section shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being born alive as defined in this section."
Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer explained that with this language the "amendment certainly does not attack Roe v. Wade."
On July 18, 2002, Democratic Sen. Harry Reid called for the bill to be approved by unanimous consent. It was.
That same year, the Illinois version of the bill came up again. Obama voted "no."
In 2003, Democrats took control of the Illinois Senate. Obama became chairman of the Health and Human Services committee. The Born Alive Infant bill, now sponsored by Sen. Richard Winkel, was referred to this committee. Winkel also sponsored an amendment to make the Illinois bill identical to the federal law, adding -- word for word -- the language Barbara Boxer said protected Roe v. Wade. Obama still held the bill hostage in his committee, never calling a vote so it could be sent to the full senate.
A year later, when Republican U.S. senate candidate Alan Keyes challenged Obama in a debate for his opposition to the Born Alive Infant Bill, Obama said: "At the federal level there was a similar bill that passed because it had an amendment saying this does not encroach on Roe v. Wade. I would have voted for that bill."
In fact, Obama had personally killed exactly that bill. Source - CNS News
double ack.
fire & brimstone yadda yadda.
yawn.
Sorry for the double post (nm)
not on my familiar computer.
double ditto!
He is so right on this. It is a big mystery why no one is signing up any longer and recruiters are chomping at the bit to get people in right now? The military has never been treated very well (father was in the AF for 24 years and hubby for 20 years). We lived in housing with roofs that leaked, put up with being told when and how to mow our lawns, and did not really get paid all that well until the last 5 years of my husband's career. We are now constantly fighting to preserve the benefits that were promised to us as part of a total retirement package. That is to say nothing of all the people signing up to fight for a war no one supports and doing it because they believe in making America better and safer, so WE can sit here and reap the benefits. Yep, I say the elected officials need to get out of their limos and into the trenches...
Double Standards?
Obama interview:
How does it feel to break a glass ceiling?
How does it feel to “win”?
How does your family feel about your “winning” breaking a glass ceiling?
Who will be your VP?
Should you choose Hillary Clinton as VP?
Will you accept public finance?
What issues is your campaign about?
Will you visit Iraq?
Will you debate McCain at a town hall?
What did you think of your competitor’s [Clinton] speech?
Palin interview:
Do you have enough qualifications for the job you’re seeking? Specifically have you visited foreign countries and met foreign leaders?
Aren’t you conceited to be seeking this high level job?
Questions about foreign policy
-territorial integrity of Georgia
-allowing Georgia and Ukraine to be members of NATO
-NATO treaty
-Iranian nuclear threat
-what to do if Israel attacks Iran
-Al Qaeda motivations
-the Bush Doctrine
-attacking terrorists harbored by Pakistan
Is America fighting a holy war? [misquoted Palin]
There’s no doubt the Charles Gibson interviews showed extreme prejudice against Palin and extreme favoritism towards Obama…He constantly questioned her ability to lead but never questioned Obama’s ability to lead, all the more amazing considering that Palin was the only one with executive experience and the presidency is the highest level executive job in politics.
There's much more at The Anchoress, so head over there to see the full report.
I got double-digits.
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Again double standards it looks like
Palin was trashed for running for office when she had kids and who will be taking care of the kids, she'll leave them just so she can campaign, blah, blah, blah. But it's okay for Michelle and Obama to leave their kids?
Now that's what I call double standards.
Double standards?...(sm)
Palin is currently paying back her state for misappropriated funds, Sanford is going to have to pay back money for his Argentina trip, and Ensign used pub party money to pay off his mistress et al, and you're worried about a party at the White House?
I think I would much rather pay for an event that not only collects money for charities but also provides a pick-me-up for those invited (congress and the media) than I would for yet another republican sordid affair.
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