I respectfully disagree on one point you made:

*...most of us on the liberal board do not buy *impending doom* theory that you live by.*

I personally will be fearful of *impending doom* for the next 3 years.  If I/we can get through that, then I'll be able to relax (a little) as hopefully more Americans will come to their senses.

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The age 18 issue was an issue decided decades before this administration.  Not that I drink or care anything about drinking I do think that the issue of military service and drinking is a valid one.

Now, about signing up for the military, when you sign up for the military you are signing up to go WHEREVER you are ordered to.  After you enlist you don't have a say in the matter  It doesn't matter if you agree with the current president or agree with the current war.  When you sign up you agree to go wherever the government sends you.  Without a draft the decision to enlist is ENTIRELY up to you.  If you have political problems with going to war at any place, anytime, and under any political circumstances you should exercise your right not to enlist. 

My point to you is if you're old enough to a make decision about mind altering substances then you are old enough to make an adult decision which may require you to put your life in jeopardy.  Military service and drinking require adult decision making processes, and if you can't live with the consequences of doing either then you should do neither.   Works both ways.

have totally been run into the ground.  I believe we are in a recession....which hasn't even been declared.....and are not yet into a depression.  If Obama gets in office and raises taxes and government spending.....we will be in a depression.  Where were you during history class?  Obviously not paying any attention.

Besides, Bush may be the president now but there were many many many greedy hands in the cookie jar who caused this economic crisis and that includes dems and repubs alike.  So go spout off your "this is all Bush's fault" to the other ignorant people who believe that.  There are many more involved than just him and they should all be held accountable for their participation in this mess.

Trust me, my friends, it will get worse if Obama is elected.  Let us not repeat history and do what Hoover did by raising taxes during a recession and leading to the great depression.  Let us know repeat history and do what FDR did by starting more government programs that were supposed to help the Americans but actually prolonged the duration of the great depression. 

When Bush spoke from the heart, he was very sincere. If he had to speak from the speeches written from someone else, he was terrible.

I absolutely think the speech writers need to bone up on their writing skills. I heard Bush both ways and he did care for this country but every president is a puppet of the congress and senate. No way he could talk from the heart too often. I did hear him a couple times without a script and he was not the stumbling oaf he was made out to be using the written speeches.

Bash all you want but that's MY honest opinion.

While I don't agree with your opinion 100 percent at least you can talk to us without making anything we say personal, A.W. and Carla cannot.

I'll agree that some had a visceral hatred of Clinton.  I never did personally.  I didn't vote for him, did not think he was a good president, but I didn't walk around everyday blaming everything bad in my life on him either.  I disliked by his personal example that he lowered the morality level in our country several notches, and yes, I do think that he should have been thrown out of office for #1) having sexual favors performed just outside the oval office by someone other than his wife, and #2) then looking in the face of every American and lying about it (#2 being the damning impeachable offense).

At this point I haven't seen proof that Bush has done anything impeachable.  I think Bush has done some good things while in office and has also done some things I don't agree with.  However, if I support the president in any way then I'm accused of bowing down and worshipping at his feet by A.W. and Carla, and let's not forget the late-to-this-board gt.  Their reactions are way beyond the rational although it is understandable why Carla may have these strong feelings given what she's gone through this year.  I think she may be misdirecting some of her anger though.

You don't tolerate irresponsibility when it comes to pet owners (which I agree with, by the way), yet you seem to welcome it when it comes to your political party.  One has to ask why you continue to sing the praises of and support the most irresponsible administration in US history, yet you express outrage about a cat owner.  Just doesn't make sense.

And as far as you being tolerant, one only needs to take a quick look at the conservative board to see how laughable that really is.  You and your cohorts post the most intolerant posts I've ever seen anywhere on the internet.

I do agree with you about pet owners being responsible.  I am a pet owner and keep my pets under control simply because I love them and want to keep them safe. 

I think you  have already decided for whom you are going to vote.  Otherwise why keep posting internet gossip about Obama.  I've already posted my objections to him and that can be summed up in 1 word, preacher WRIGHT.  I struggled with that for a very long time and finally decided I would take a chance on that, a KNOWN fact, enough to make me afraid of where we're headed under his administration without adding anything to it.

As for the place of Obama's birth and his birth certificate....do you REALLY believe if he wasn't eligible to run for the presidency the McCain campaign would not have obtained absolute proof of that???  Get real, of course they would.  So as for me...no problem with his birth certificate.

As for his past associations...of course he has associated with shady characters as has McCain.  McCain's Keating 5 was one.  Do you realize he is the ONLY senator who has been rebuked by the Senate Ethic Committee??? That's quite a record.

Obama commercials...I don't know where you are but the one that plays over and over here in Arkansas is HILARIOUS.  I can't tell you the content of the ad because both my husband and I are laughing so  hard. It plays often and we welcome the comedy.   It shows McCain and his expressions during the debate.  At the end is McCain speaking by himself FOR Obama when he says, "I've voted with the president over 90% of the time, more than even some of my party colleagues."  That in MCCAIN's own words tells me all I need to know about him.  I haven't agreed with Bush on anything since 9/11 when he stood up and made his speech....I became a Republican that day but it sure didn't last long.  McCain will bring us more of the same, maybe even worse.  So if you've done well the past 8 years and want to continue on that downhill path, by all means vote for McCain.  I'm not sure at all that we will like Obama's "change" but I'll take a chance on him before I'll vote FOR McCain.

Funny I have watched all of the debates and speeches and parts of speeches until I'm sick of it.  I have yet to hear Obama come close to what I would consider "playing the race card."  What I did hear was Palin "he isn't like the rest of us."  If that wasn't the race card I don't know what it was.  How could Obama possibly play the race card when he is half and half and raised by his WHITE grandmother, the one he says shaped him and I believe him on that.

Nov. 4 can't come fast enough to suit me.  Then I guess we can start blaming Democrats/Republicans for our continued downhill course.  What we lazy Americans, ALL of us, need to do is get off our lazy butts and do something that will effectively change the course of our country.

Colter is a hatemonger, thats all.  I heard every hour of AL Franken's program and he never said anything outrageous like she/it.  Al Franken was quite witty and entertaining and merely give his listeners the facts that were suppressed elsewhere.  He was on the story about Asian factory workers forced to have abortions by their American bosses way before other outlets were discussing it. Really!! Stop trying to pull the wool ....

No surprise there right?

I would like to note that all social reform to take place in the United States has been at the heels of a liberal movement.  From our breaking off with Britain in the mid 1700s, to civil war in the mid 1800s, and the liberal movement of the mid 1960s.  Liberalism as a belief has moved from Republican to Democrat and back again more than once.  Taking your stance on pro-life and moving it to the time of mid 1800s would put you for all intents and purposes under the Democratic wing.

As the saying goes, complacency breeds contempt, and I believe that we are now in the beginnings of another liberal movement.  A little quicker than our 100 year mark, but with the speed that the world is changing, so must we. 

We as a people and government have to embrace change, that is the true nature of liberalism. 

Realistically, your views/postings justify the label.  You may not wish it, but by just expressing them promotes it.  The fact that you have never mentioned the remote possibility of voting Democrat, which at this point in our history leans toward the liberal, and only looking at the Republican party is labeling.  If you did not want to be labeled or wish not to be, you wouldn't be so quick to make your conservative opinions heard.

As I frequently tell my husband, if you get too caught up in the details, you will lose the bigger picture, which usually leads me to telling him that he gets in his own way more often than not.

I feel the reason New Orleans went under was because the National Guard, tanks, etc. were all in Iraq.

Doesn't it bother you that Palin actually said, her son was going to Iraq to fight the people that attacked us?  Clueless.

I agree that McCain is a war hero, so is my dad, but he certainly is not qualified to be President.

maybe we both will be kicked off too for disagreeing.

Sam does research before posting an answer to some of the statements told here, then posts the links so we can all see what is the truth, not just a few. Anyone who cares anything about this country would do the same.  It's not rocket science. The problem is some people on this board don't care to listen. They're right and everybody else is wrong.They think sam is attacking them personally, when he/she is not, just stating FACTS, not untruths.

The liberal media would be analyzing his choice till the cows came home. 

Did you miss the part where he said, "I'm the decider."?  His old buddy Richard (message says *ick is a bad word.........well, on that we can agree) is guilty right along with him. I do  not think history will be kind to him.  But then it WAS kind to FDR until the republicans came out with their "study" to excuse the fact that Hoover was, before Bush, acknowledged to be the worst president in history.

I say while you're putting Palin on her dogsled back to Alaska, hitch up a couple of longhorns and point Bush and Cheney back to Texas.  Trouble is I don't think Texas wants them.

McCain is not throwing people off his bus because they don't report him in a good light.

McCain is not banning newspaper interviews because they ask him serious questions.

McCain is not banning networks because they ask him serious questions.

The O is doing all of this.