I meant to add it reminds me of what I read about Napolean and M. Antionette
Posted By: and how they lived - IMHO on 2009-03-13
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Party hearty dudes.
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Re-read your post...what I meant was you posted...
you said he had breakfast with OBAMA bin Laden, not OSAMA bin Laden. Clearly you did not mean to..just pointing out that you did indeed type Obama, not Osama. Just like Teddy Kennedy said in speeches twice...Obama bin Laden instead of OSAMA bin Laden.
And what kind of proof do you have that Bush Sr. had brunch with bin Laden? Maybe a member of the bin Laden family, but certainly not Osama. Good lord. LOL.
And just as an aside...what proof is there that Bush Sr. was having brunch with ANY of the bid ladens??
This reminds me of my
who has been married and divorced 4 times who mouths off about gays and *the sanctity of marriage*. LOL Cracks me up every time. Now that's real common sense and logic.
So by this standard, my marriage isn't a *real marriage* because my husband (of 23 years)and I chose not to have children. Good grief!
that reminds me
John Mc said he knew exactly how to find Bin Laden. Shame he refuses to share his knowledge with the military leaders.
LOL! Reminds me of...
something that occurred about 25 years. I was working in a law office, and one of the newer attorneys was reading a medical report that contained the word "cephalgia." He almost started jumping up and down, really excited because (I think) it was such a "big word."
He asked if anyone had any medical background. I said I had a little bit, and he asked me what cephalgia meant.
I said, "Well, let's see: "Algia" means pain. "Ceph" means pain, so pain in the head -- HEADACHE!"
I was relating this to a court reporter friend of mine who then asked me what I would call an analgesic.
I said, "Well, using my "formula," I guess it means "pain in the butt"!
That reminds me of the 2.....(sm)
girls in N. Korea. I don't remember his name right off, but one guy that went there and talked to some N. Korean officials on their behalf was asking about the girls' welfare. The response from the N. Koreans was "we aren't Gitmo."
Reminds me of a story. s/m
Wealthy (Republican no doubt) race horse breeder sent his prize horse to England with his trainer for an important race. Being frugal (or a tightwad) breeder told trainer to send him a telegram and let him know how the horse did in the race but to keep it brief to save money. By and by the breeder received a telegram which said "SFSFF." Upon his return home the breeder gleafully met the trainer and demanded to know how much money he had won. The trainer reported that he had won nothing. The breeder said, "but I got your telegram, SFSFF, started first, slowed, finished first." " No, no, no said the trainer, SFSFF, started first, stumbled, farted, fell."
no pie for you...just denial...that reminds me of...
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This conversation reminds me of...(sm)
an event that took place during the Iraq war (not sure of the date, but I'm sure some of you will remember it). There was an Iraqi child who was (as well as many others) caugt in a bombing raid. It was all over the news about how the US military had given him provisional care and transported him from place to place, trying to get him to a place where he could be treated appropriately. Unfortunately (like many other Iraqi civilians) he eventually died. This in itself was not that remarkable, especially considering at the time the US was lobbing bombs into Iraq with the precision of a pumpkin-chunkin contest. What was remarkable, however, was when the doctor who was caring for the child came out and told the news of his death to the world. There were several questions entertained by the doctor from reporters, but the one that really struck home for me was one from a US reporter. The question was, do you think the boy understood what we are trying to do here? The boy that died was all of about 4 or 5 years old.
Not long after, the US decided to not show casualties in the news. The government unfortunately was right in assuming the out of sight, out of mind thing would work. It's amazing just how naive Americans can be.
This is a perfect example of what you would call American pride, honor, etc. Nevermind the people who die, just make sure we look good doing it. Again, I am not negating the value of the American soldiers here, they are simply doing what they've been told to do.
When you talk about soldiers helping the Iraqi people, exactly how are they helping them? Are they bringing them food and medicine because we have destroyed their infrastructure? Are they helping them find a place to stay because their house played catch with a US missle? Or are we just taking care of their kids because we took mommy and daddy to a torture camp? Believe me, we are doing much more harm than help. Have you noticed that Iraqi civilian casualties far outnumber the casualties of American soldiers? Where's the help for that?
And yes, I did have someone serving in Iraq.
This conversation reminds me of...(sm)
an event that took place during the Iraq war (not sure of the date, but I'm sure some of you will remember it). There was an Iraqi child who was (as well as many others) caugt in a bombing raid. It was all over the news about how the US military had given him provisional care and transported him from place to place, trying to get him to a place where he could be treated appropriately. Unfortunately (like many other Iraqi civilians) he eventually died. This in itself was not that remarkable, especially considering at the time the US was lobbing bombs into Iraq with the precision of a pumpkin-chunkin contest. What was remarkable, however, was when the doctor who was caring for the child came out and told the news of his death to the world. There were several questions entertained by the doctor from reporters, but the one that really struck home for me was one from a US reporter. The question was, do you think the boy understood what we are trying to do here? The boy that died was all of about 4 or 5 years old.
Not long after, the US decided to not show casualties in the news. The story above may have contributed to this, but the basic idea was that Americans didn't like to see Americans dead. The government unfortunately was right in assuming the out of sight, out of mind thing would work. It's amazing just how naive Americans can be.
This is a perfect example of what you would call American pride, honor, etc. Nevermind the people who die, just make sure we look good doing it. Again, I am not negating the value of the American soldiers: they are simply doing what they've been told to do.
When you talk about soldiers helping the Iraqi people, exactly how are they helping them? Are they bringing them food and medicine because we have destroyed their infrastructure? Are they helping them find a place to stay because their house played catch with a US missle? Or are we just taking care of their kids because we took mommy and daddy to a torture camp? Believe me, we are doing much more harm than help. Have you noticed that Iraqi civilian casualties far outnumber the casualties of American soldiers? Where's the help for that?
And yes, I did have someone serving in Iraq.
Reminds me of the last joke
our dad ever played on us, and it was at his own funeral many years ago. The guy was a hoot. Mom had died the year before, so my sister (same Norm Crosby sister) remembered exactly where in the cemetery the double-wide grave was.
Dad’s procession wound through the grounds – he had a lot of friends, so it was a long parade. The hearse stopped at the newly prepped grave with the canopy over it. Our limo pulled up behind it. My sister said, ‘This is the wrong place.’ Her husband said, ‘Nah, this looks like it.’ I had no recollection. The pallbearers opened the hearse and started hauling the casket out and my sister made her husband go up and tell them to stop. This was ALL WRONG. So, they shoved the casket back in, and closed the doors. Now you see it. Now you don’t.
All the people behind us started to get our of their cars, and mill around. My sister went up there and now I could see a lot of gesturing and pointing. She’s pointing way that-a-way and the cemetery crew are shaking their heads and pointing this-a-way. So there was an intermission while somebody went to the office for a map.
Now we have the map spread out on the hood of the hearse. Nobody else in the crowd really knows what’s going on, and sure enough, wrong grave. Dad almost got himself interred for eternity next to some other woman. You’d have to know my dad (and my mom) to get the joke.
We agreed to have the graveside service there, but then he had to be moved to where the backhoe would shortly be hastily digging the grave in the proper location.
On the ride back in the funeral home limo we were giggling uncontrollably. Her husband thought it was in very poor taste. The limo driver kept remarking on what good sports we were. Truly, dad almost got away with it. You just hadda be there!
Reminds me of the very last joke
our dad ever played on us, and it was at his own funeral many years ago. The guy was a hoot. Mom had died the year before, so my sister (same Norm Crosby sister) remembered exactly where in the cemetery the double-wide grave was.
Dad’s procession wound through the grounds – he had a lot of friends, so it was a long parade. The hearse stopped at the newly prepped grave with the canopy over it. Our limo pulled up behind it. My sister said, ‘This is the wrong place.’ Her husband said, ‘Nah, this looks like it.’ I had no recollection. The pallbearers opened the hearse and started hauling the casket out and my sister made her husband go up and tell them to stop. This was ALL WRONG. So, they shoved the casket back in, and closed the doors. Now you see it. Now you don’t.
All the people behind us started to get our of their cars, and mill around. My sister went up there and now I could see a lot of gesturing and pointing. She’s pointing way that-a-way and the cemetery crew are shaking their heads and pointing this-a-way. So there was an intermission while somebody went to the office for a map.
Now we have the map spread out on the hood of the hearse. Nobody else in the crowd really knows what’s going on, and sure enough, wrong grave. Dad almost got himself interred for eternity next to some other woman. You’d have to know my dad (and my mom) to get the joke.
We agreed to have the graveside service there, but then he had to be moved to where the backhoe would shortly be hastily digging the grave in the proper location.
On the ride back in the funeral home limo we were giggling uncontrollably. Her husband thought it was in very poor taste. The limo driver kept remarking on what good sports we were. Truly, dad almost got away with it. You just hadda be there!
This reminds me of the time
I asked a muslim man why, if there is a god, are there 100s if not 1000s of children being raped and murdered mercilessly as we speak and he said to me: "Because in a prior life, the children were bad people and they deserve this punishment."
No God would let a child suffer so. This is a godless world and you are on a piece of cosmic debris which happens to have every element necessary to support life.
Thoughts go to the Jehovahs Witnesses and the 7th Day crowd who do not vote nor care about the planet nor the people on it because they are convinced the next world is more important than this one.
Weak
Kind of reminds me............ sm
of the polls taken during the election when people who voted for Obama were asked questions about him and either could not answer them correctly or agreed with statements that were "dressed up" to appear to be related to Obama but were, in fact, about McCain/Palin.
I stand by my original thoughts....folks, for the most part, had no idea about who they were voting for. Either that, or they were just being really polite to the pollster! LOL
post reminds me of *Not Without My Daiughter*
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Your comment reminds me of that famous
Everyone is allowed their opinions. Stop knocking other people down because you don't agree with them.
This discussion kind of reminds me of the ...sm
election of 1960, Nixon/Kennedy. Everyone was saying Nixon is a God. He has the most experience. No way John Kennedy is qualified to be president. Then came the first debate, and the rest is history. No teleprompter needed for either JFK or Obama. Their vision for America was/is enough to light the world.
Reminds me of that song be happy
Although reading your post I do have to say I think you've been hitting on the ju-ju juice a little too much. HA HA HA
We are not ALL "proud" of Obama. Proud that he's legally hiding his birth certificate. Proud that he had his school records legally sealed so nobody can see that he may have possibly gotten aid as a foreign student. Proud that he stole the election from Clinton. Not everyone in the world admires him (there are plenty of countries who believe we were duped and bought into the "rapture" of electing a black man that we didn't want to investigate him and who he is and how he got as far as he has and who is behind him, and why in the world anyone would vote for someone that doesn't have any experience. There are many countries now questioning his ability to lead by the people he is surrounding himself with. And as our own newly elect VP Joe Biden said "Mark my words, it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy".
As for him demonstrating
"purity of the heart". I have not seen anything to demonstrate that yet. I do know that Farrakhan seems to think he's the messiah, so maybe that it where people are getting that mixed up. Doen't make it true, however.
I'm glad your happy and I'm not taking that away. But soon I think once the effects of the kool-aid wears off you might see things a bit more clearly.
Not all of us feel joy and pride. We feel fear, uncertaintly, hopelessness, loss, despair, nervousness, doubt, worry, anxiety, and trepidation (and please don't tell me I should take medication for that). These are all real issues that we are facing. We are losing our homes, jobs, savings, retirements and everything we worked for and here comes the O saying "I feel your pain. I'm going to make it all better for you" and people buy into it without question. "How are you going to do that we say, what will you do for us right now so we don't get kicked out of our houses". "Well I'm going to tax all those nasty rich people that don't need it and give it all to you" "Yeah, hooray, Obama is my savior. I will never have to work or worry anymore how to pay for things I want."
So, go ahead and be happy. I have to live in reality.
P.S. - It's not the age of aquarium (unless I want some fish). It's the Age of Aquarius which deals with astrology. So maybe the O is from another planet. HA HA.
This so reminds me of one of those baby books
people put together for their first kid. Video of the delivery. Baby's handprint and footprint. Lock of hair from Baby's first haircut. Picture of Baby taking his first step. First tooth Baby loses, and on and on and on.....
What's the followup plan for the 200th day and the 300th? I'd like to pencil this on my calendar.
I agree with ms. I enjoy it too. Sam reminds me of my husband. sm
And that is a good thing. LOL. My husband can debate until the cows come home whether it is Obama, McCain, Pelosi, etc. He lays everything out point by point and he isn't nasty about it the way some of the other posters on this board are. And he doesn't have to resort to name calling or whining.
So I say to Sam...You go girl!!.
she reminds me of Rose from the Golden Girls
back in Alaska....
This reminds me of Bill O's cry foul, declaration of war
proclamations that the ratings "MUST" be fixed after his show took third place behind MSNBC (x2 with KO and RM) and CNN (Anderson Cooper). Early on, McC camp started screaming bloody murder and boycotting the media when it began to become apparent that SP could not handle one-on-ones very well. Don't know what a camp sould expect when they declare their own wars on the media. Talk about whiners.
Your description reminds me of our current lousy
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This looks interesting. A long read, so will read it when I get home from work. nm
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Obviously u didnt read, I said NONE of them are moral. Read the post before spouting off.
I read on CNN (yes, I do read liberal stuff too..hehe)...sm
...that Karl Rove was actually very disappointed in the McCain campaign for airing negative type ads against Obama.
So I would say that Rove is definitely not in the hip pocket of the McCain campaign.
Good research sam - but a lot to read right now so gotta read it later
I've been goofing off too much from work. I appreciate what you wrote and will read when I'm done with work here.
What I meant was....
why can we not protect the unborn children first? Are they not as deserving as homeless, poor, etc.? That was my point. I do not see, nor do I ever expect to see, liberals exhorting us to take care of unborn children as a part of taking care of the least among us. I have seen Conservatives exhort to take care of the least among us, including unborn children. Conservatives just want to put a limit on it, and regulate it a little more closely (as far as welfare, etc.). I don't have a problem with that either. And I give privately to Christian organizations that DO take care of the least among us. It does not have to go through the government to be effective. I guess that is where we differ.
What I meant was...
He should have said "no comment" first thing when he addressed the American people - when he said the whole "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" thing. At that point he was not obligated to comment, and he shouldn't have.
I am not a "Clintonite" or whatever you said. I just think he was a more intelligent person than Bush. Although I despise Bush, I really do like his wife Laura. I think she seems like a very caring, very genuine person.
I do NOT plan to vote for Hilary. I plan to vote for Barack Obama if he makes it that far. I think he could really improve the health insurance crisis in America. I never hear Republican candidates talking about making healthcare more affordable, and therefore I will probably vote for a Democrat.
I meant
In the last paragraph I meant to write posting "false" information, not "fall".
Not quite sure if it is a pub or a dem who meant DNC....lol nm
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Sorry that was meant for OP nm
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I think you meant that some
or maybe even many Obama supporters are educated. Just like McCain supporters.
Meant I wonder......
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Her's what I meant
Not true meant that I'm not a rabid Republican (I'm a conservative). That's why the RINOS need to get the heck out of the RNC. They've ruined it. Also, they're frauds.
yes, that is what I meant
I have no idea why I typed Otis Small?? Good night GP
Not what I meant.
What I meant was that I hope he has the opportunity to serve out the full four years and/or that this election isn't contested for some reason resulting in the involvement of the Supreme Court. For example, I see the GOP is filing a lawsuit against Obama, alleging he used campaign funds when he visited his grandmother for the last time.
I hope we can all get along and not be as divided as we have been for the past few years, and I hope that nothing happens that would cause such division.
Again, I thought the post you wrote was very classy. Thanks.
I meant...
As O's father is Muslim and O's mother Christian, they had to decide how they were going to raise O.
That what I meant.
I am roman catholic.
What? Oh, you must have MEANT to say
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I only meant where did it come from?
WHY the OP posted it
but aren't you classy
obviously he meant that he wants
to win over the moderates and fight the terrorists with his strategy.
I believe what you meant to say was
the hard working class of people that this entire country was founded on is going by the wayside, instead being replaced by an invasion of another country and their people to add to the already overwhelmed small population of people that work to pay for those who have spent generation after generation mooching off of the working class.
If not being lazy makes me self righteous, then so be it.
That is not what I meant.
Out of all the earmarks in the bill 60% were dems and 40% were pubs. I didn't mean the whole bill was 100% earmarks.
Meant what I put
knew such smart people here (I) could just get ......
still going at it, thanks for the snippy response.
I meant to say..
We already have laws in place that work to protect people from being harmed or killed.
You never meant a socialist Jew! sm
What do you think they come up to you and say hi, I am a socialist Jew. Do you know Noam Chomsky? How about David Horowitz's parents? How about the Rosenbergs? Shall I go on. Do you wonder why almost all the actors blacklisted in Hollywood way back when were almost all JEWS?!?
I meant... NOW shoe...nm
But I know you'll stay because you need us to validate yourself. You're not at your best unless you are in your leftist/lib basher mode, eh. Keep it up, and people like you will expose the right brotherhood for what it's worth.
That isn't what he meant but there is no use debating you.
Maybe logical thought escapes you.
Wow, did I say Liar. I really meant sm
deluded liar. Yes, that's much better.
It was not meant as an attack, I
that it might not be the wisest idea to go to a *liberal* board and call yourself something that runs counter to their belief system, and then expect to be treated like a long-lost son.
Further, I said the Democrats frustrate me to no end, and it is precisely for the very reasons you stated. They were too afraid of being branded as **unpatriotic** and **unsupportive of the troops**, blah,blah,blah. In their defense, however, sometimes they simply have not had the votes to over ride the president's agenda. Thank goodness for people like Murtha.
I apologize if you felt I was attacking you, as I think we have found some common ground. I think the other thing that happens is that sometimes words, if not chosen extra carefully, can come off sounding what they are not.
I meant I felt like it was an act....
I believe it was theatrics. The Hollywood reference was meant to say they would be proud of the acting job...nothing to do with all of Hollywood being amoral, though I believe a good portion of it is. But that could be said for other areas as well. I am also aware of staunch conservatives in Hollywood and I think God for them.
I never meant to infer that
W should NOT have gone to VT. If that is how you read it, then you misread or I mistyped. Of course he should have been there; it is just that there was SO much publicity about this tragedy and it does not appear (to me) that there is much of that for the American soldiers in Iraq; nothing on a national level.
I also never said that conservatives did not care about the war. What I meant was that in a country where only 50% of eligible voters turn out it is not unusual that so many Americans are disconnected from this war. I remember hearing people talk about WWII and seeing movies (not valid verification but nonetheless) and it seemed that the entire country was aligned behind **the cause.** I don't see that now. I bet you the family farm that I could go down to one of the city high schools or middle schools and ask a group of teenagers what they know about this war, what do they think we should or should not do and I feel certain I would get pretty much blank stares. That is what I mean about Americans not caring...maybe that is not the correct term. Most Americans are not engaged and don't feel a connection or much of an allegiance to **the cause.** No one sacrifices anything for this war but then that is one definition of secularism I have heard **Secularism is a life without sacrifice.
You see staying in Iraq as creating some kind of democracy where the people will live a better life. I don't. I see that the longer we stay, the more people die, both Americans and Iraqis. Altho I did not agree with this war, or any war for that matter, the possibility that Iraq could have been changed for the better did probably exist 4 years ago, but not now. I really believe our being there will make no difference, aside from more death, than us not being there. It is not cut and run to me. It is cut your losses and in my opinion that would be loss of life.
As far as Clinton and Somalia; I don't know much about the details of that situation. He was concerned about bin Laden; a lot of people were for a long time. I don't think this country would have supported a war in the middle east before 9/11 happened and that played a part as well. There is quite enough blame to go around for not foreseeing (sp) 9/11.
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