I just hope Obama doesn't make use of them...
Posted By: sam on 2008-11-06
In Reply to: Very scary. - Marmann
for political dissidents. You can't tell me that Congress, including Mr. Obama, do not know they exist. Come on now.
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Commentary: Voting against Obama doesn't make you a racist...sm
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/beck.issues/index.html
Hope doesn't get you anywhere - sm
There are those uninformed people who just keep voting for the same reps no matter what the circumstances. They believe the ads, but don't check the stats. Until those people are more informed, it will be the same ones getting back into office.
I wish people would do checks on the people running for office. They booted a half decent guy out of office in my state because of the negative ads, yet he did more for our state than the jerk that's in there now.
There is truth in advertising, but not in political ads. I think the is something that needs to happen.
Hope he doesn't slow down anytime soon...
As far as the way he debates, I like to think that he kind of stammers and stutters sometimes to buy himself time to really think about what he is going to say, as obviously saying one wrong thing can damage an entire campaign. I personally wish he would spit things out a bit faster, but in the end I can always see what he is trying to get at. Of course, he is my favorite candidate and I know where he stands on most issues anyway (I go to his website a lot), so that probably makes me more accepting of his style, I guess.
I hope he does not slow down, and I have a very good feeling that he won't. I think he is bringing out record numbers of young people out to vote, and I think that has been and will continue to be a huge part of his success. He does inspire people in general, and he obviously inspires them to vote! I've seen so many people comment on his MySpace page that they have never voted before but went and registered just so they could vote for him.
Obama has integrity, and I think many of us get the sense that he cannot be bought and will not work for big business but rather for the American people, and that is one of the things I like most about him. I guess I trust that he doesn't want the job for the paycheck but that he really wants to improve this country and the world in general. I'm sooooo sick of politicians voting according to what drug company is paying them the most money, or oil company, insurance company, etc. It is beyond outrageous at this point!
doesn't make me look bad
duh
not it's not, but that doesn't make it right.
It is possible that change could go both ways.
Doesn't make it right. nm
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It doesn't make it right but
obviously it shows that in that instance Obama agreed with Bush or he wouldn't have voted for it. Now Obama ridicules Bush for doing such a sucky job and saying we shouldn't repeat things that didn't work and now we have this stimulus package? He says Bush doubled the deficit and part of the deficit added was the bailout which Obama voted for. So shouldn't he be held accountable for adding to the deficit during Bush's term since he voted for it? These double standards by you O worshipers just kills me.
Doesn't make it right.......... sm
Have you ever noticed that certain behaviors have a stigma attached to them by society?
Have you never wondered why homosexuals stayed in the closet for the most part even 30 or 40 years ago?
Have you ever wondered why, if there is nothing whatsoever wrong with homosexuality, so many people choose to hide that part of their lives from their families and friends for fear of disapproval?
The answer to all of the above questions is because homosexual behavior is not natural and considered deviant behavior. Before you call me homophobic, let me tell you that I have 2 gay cousins, 1 on each side of my family, and I love them dearly but I do not approve of their sexual preference.
Still doesn't make it right that
they have no clue where the money is.
That's nice but it doesn't make any
Bush has promised to veto the bill, so this country will be stuck in backwards mode until 2008 when we have a competent president.
Bush doesn't care what 75% of Americans want. He only caters to one narrow unreasonable religious group. He doesn't care that a cure might be on the horizon that might save countless children from juvenile diabetes or cure Parkinson's or Alzheimer's or who knows what else if it can't be researched.
All he wants to do is send our kids to die in Iraq. He's a disgrace. 
Doesn't make it true.
For everyone of these, I can produce two in opposition.
It appears now that the surge is working, eight months afterward; however, because conditions are slowing getting better in Iraq is not because of the surge. It is a combination of things, the first and foremost that the United States is finally coming to the realization that the only way to get the country of Iraq back on its feet is to ALLOW the Iraqi's to take control in their OWN way and not under the strict edicts of the United States. Now that we are loosening the noose, things are coming together.
To solidify my point:
"All of Petraeus’ work on the subject of counterinsurgency, however, along with the things he himself was saying somewhat subtly, all pointed toward the conclusion that peace in Iraq required not a “surge” but political reconciliation between a sufficiently large set of Iraqi factions as to represent the overwhelming majority of Iraqis. The “surge” was, in some vague way, supposed to facilitate that, which it hasn’t, it was never a realistic method of securing the country on its own, which is why it hasn’t worked.
The “surge” was always part of the puzzle; it wasn’t supposed to solve everything by itself. War remains, as it has always been, a means of forcing people to make political concessions that they would not otherwise make voluntarily. Classic counterinsurgency doctrine requires securing large population centers, killing insurgents, and applying political pressure. All those things, and more, are happening."
and furthermore:
"Despite recent trends, 2007 is the deadliest year for U.S. forces since the war began in March 2003. Even on a day like Monday, considered a relatively quiet one with no reported coalition casualties, at least 33 Iraqis were killed and an equal number wounded in violence around the country.
While declining, the fighting in Iraq has just returned to levels seen before the February 2006 bombing of the Shi’ite shrine in Samarra by extremists — an attack that sent violence between Sunnis and Shi’ites soaring. And ordinary Iraqis say the streets are full of danger, even with the improvement in security." This little tidbit was just written 2 weeks ago by OTB.
This supposed truth is only the truth as HE sees it. Not necessary the TRUTH at all, and considering that he probably was only allowed to visit certain sections of Baghdad doesn't lend much validity to his statement.
It doesn't make any difference. sm
You can not buy gas for a week and it won't make a difference. They will just raise the prices even more to make up the difference. Neal Boortz had a great explanation on how this works on his show the other night. Big oil just bides it's time and then raises the cost again after people get tired of being stuck at home or not going to the movies, or out to eat, etc. That is his explanation in a nutshell.
Doesn't make him my leader.....
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Doesn't make a difference
Whether they are men or women. They all voted in a pay raise for themselves (both crats and reps) while the rest of the country is suffering, so don't just point out Sarah Palin.
Wow. Doesn't this post make you want
your chair and rush down to the nearest GOP headquarters and sign up as a life-long loyalist? Hope there's a box on the form I can check to become affiliated with the furthest right fringe that they have to offer. What class. What style. What charisma. Oh, please, can I be just like you? I'm getting really tired of that sugary sweet Kool-Aid I've been guzzling and can hardly wait to take a healthy slug of that bitter acid foaming out of your mouth. Thanks for sharing.
It doesn't make a difference...
guess that's what makes it all so sad. I think too many people thought of Obama as the man that was going to make things right and he's just making things worse - even sadder.
Let's hope that something doesn't happen both of them and Nancy Pelosi steps in as president.
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Being a POW doesn't make you qualified to run a country
Especially when you don't know the economy, have no ideas (or even care to) help the Americans through the hard times, and especially when you plan to stay at war for the next 100 years. I could go on and on but it would be too long.
Just 'cause he denies it doesn't it make it
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Then don't come here if it doesn't make you feel "proud"
If coming to this board and listening to people who voice their opinions and concerns of what is happening in the country is so upsetting to you and takes away from you feeling "proud", then I would say not to come here. We listen to the concerns on this board and everyone that trashed McCain and Palin (and still do), and anyone else who is a not a liberal and voices their opinions - they get trashed, but we listen to it.
Then we give our concerns about Obama and the incoming administration. If it's that upsetting to you to know that not everyone in this country is in love with Obama and worships the ground he walks on then maybe you should find some boards somewhere where most all of the posts are just the jubilation, rapture, and ecstasy everyone has because we've elected the first black man to the white house no matter whether or not he knows what he's doing or meets the qualifications. Oh wait - that is this board.
You know what I get sick of seeing. The utter disrepsect that people give to those that don't join in the rapture. We are attacked and called names for it, but the moment we respond back we are criticized. Even the people who said they voted for Obama but are having some concerns about the people's he's picking for cabinet members they are attacked too because they are not dancing in circles drinking the Kool-Aid chanting Obama's name over and over and over.
Everyone has different opinions. Everyone has different concerns. Everyone has the right to voice those opinions.
I wouldn't worry too much, however, the way America is headed is that nobody will ever be able to say or write the truth about Obama because already in Missouri the "thought police" are monitoring websites of who's writing what about Obama and if it is the truth or not gushing with love they are being reported. They are also trying to silence the conservative radio shows so that it will only be liberal viewpoint that everyone hears. So soon all you'll hear is happy happy joy joy about Obama and those who don't agree with thim will be on their way to one of the hundreds of re-education camps in this country.
Of interesting note, Obama won McCain by 9,522,111. Out of 129,391,683 people who voted, that's not very much. Less than 8%. And there are over 303,824,640 people in America so that means 174,432,957 people in America did not vote (that's more than those who did vote). According to statistics only 25% of the country's population are children under 20 years old, so that still leaves over 9,847,679 people that didn't vote. So to go around acting as though every single person living in America voted for Obama gets a bit old. I'm also thankful that there are enough American's in the country to know right from wrong and a lot of them know their rights as Americans and they still believe in the constitution and what our founding fathers fought for (definitely NOT what is happening today) and they are not joining in the newest cult to come to this country.
So if coming to this board just depeletes all your "proudness" I'd find somewhere else to go.
Doesn't make you a racist, just misinformed.
I grew up in the 60s when racial tensions were extremely high, and we knew what was racist and what was not racist, and this cartoon is definitely racist. You really don't want to go back to that horrible time and place, so if we can inform others to show just a little bit of compassion and/or respect to others, it will go a long way to soothe the underlying tensions that still exist.
I stick by my statement - doesn't make it right
And the lady who set fire to him is just as bad as he is.
Doesn't it kind of make you laugh and...
...shake your head when they accuse you of being somebody else? They accused me and "gourdpainter" (sp?) of being the same person in the past, and all I could do was laugh and wonder how their thought processes work. 
Huh?? This post doesn't even make sense
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I sincerely hope that whatever the tarhooties you were smoking to make that baseless statement
is the last of your stash..
that doesn't make him white...my son is half black
He's not a white man, I don't know why you would even bring that into the conversation.
Not agreeing with your almight edicts doesn't make
brainwashed right-wing robots.
Voting for McCain doesn't make you a republican
http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson.php?id=2805&name=Bush-Family-Bankrupt-Companies
yeah, but could care less really doesn't make sense if you think about it -nm
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Did anyone notice the voice doesn't match the video? How does that make her (sm)
a witch hunter? So ridiculous. The voice didn't even match the minister who was praying with her.
Do ya think lithium would help here? (only kidding, doesn't make sense, but this is Capitol Hill
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The fact that an article was written does not make it fact. I hope you know that. nm
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Obama = HOPE
Well............maybe they will then be able to afford a car so they can drive themselves out of the path of a hurricane.....and get a better education so they can get a better job and the mentally ill that make up the biggest portion of our homeless (because Reagan closed all the mental institutions on the premise it was against their civil rights to keep them hospitalized) may not have to live in cardboard boxes anymore.
I hope you voting for Obama, did you?..nm
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Going to a Muslim school doesn't make him Muslim
And point of fact is that it was 2 years in Catholic school, 2 years in a "Muslim" school. He was living in Indonesia. He had to attend school in Indonesia. His mother, doing what mothers do, wanted him to get the best education available. She tried 2 years at the Catholic school and then determined at that point that the quality of education provided was better at the Muslim school. There was some teaching of Muslim philosophy but this more emphasis was paid to standard educational requirements, what's referred to as the 3 Rs (Reading, wRiting, 'Rithmetic).
Attending a school with some affiliation does not automatically confer the same status on you. Jews can go to Catholics without converting. Whites can go to those schools thought of as primary African-American without becoming black. Sometimes, folks, a school is just a school, and 2 years in an extremely secular school at the ages of 8-10 does not turn him into a radical Muslim.
Frankly, his education and family life seems like it makes him almost the perfect president to be able to understand and empathize with a much wider range of American citizens than any president before him.
McCain is scary. Obama is the US's best hope for
Obama = Hope. McCain = Dope.
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I hope you hold him to it if he gets elected. If Obama...sm
get elected, and I hope he does, I will hold his feet to the fire and make sure he lives up to his promises.
I think Obama will ask his voters to vote for who he wants in; I hope not though! nm
It is what Obama DOESN'T say....
that I am concerned about.
Obama doesn't even know how many
He said he has visited 57 states in this country, had 2 more to go. Now, if this had been Hillary or a reb candidate, the media would still be dragging this through the mud. Maybe it was just a freudian slip? Organization of the Islamic Conference?
A little curious.
All I can hope is the Obama campaign picks up this mantra...
because if they do, they are toast and we won't have to do a thing. Do you honestly think there are no parents of pregnant teenagers out there who VOTE? Just keep on spreading this seething judgmental condemnation. Just keep on. It should be copied and pasted onto blogs...what Obama supporters will sink to. What a good idea.
I think I will start now.
Well, great, hope you love Obama's tax plan then. It
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OMG, I hope my post didn't look like I thought Obama did it
I know he didn't. He's a very decent person and respectful and when something is wrong he'll say so (and will have words with his people if they cross the line). I wasn't sure who did it. The news said they were going to tell us who is responsible but they never did (go figure). I just think its a horrible thing to happen to anyone and DH and I were talking tonight about when did all the nasty things like this start happening. I'm sure 100 or so years ago it wasn't bad like this. I just think it's a horrible world when someone is running for an office and people think its okay to do this. How low will they go?
Don't agree. I hope Obama gets to go back to the senate...
and see her there as VP... :)
Why doesn't Obama let Biden take over for him...
and go to DC and show leadership like McCain is? Didn't hear Letterman making that point. And you won't either. lol.
Yes, Obama won the election. That doesn't mean he's the best man
for the job. It just means he's good with deception. Talk about smoke and mirrors!
I don't know who or what Obama is and I don't know what role he will play in the years to come. What I do know is our days are number and he will set the stage for certain prophesy to be fulfilled. Watch and see.
Is Obama The Antichrist? I don't know. But the spirit of the antichrist is already in this world.
You're the one not getting it. Obama doesn't not have to do much of anything
in order to win over a "moderate muslim" because they are by definition open to Western ideas regarding politics and general ideas. They embrace a sort of liberal Islam in sharp contrast to the extremist or fundamentalist muslims who have zero tolerance and believe in and embrace the concept of Jihad against the infidels.
I'm not just talking about muslims who live in the U.S., but muslims around the world. For example, President Karzai of Afghanistan has been deemed a moderate muslim because of his political ideas which is why he fears violence against him from the extremists in his country.
Get it? Obama saying that he wants to "win over" moderate muslims is akin to a MTSO saying they want to "win over" Indian MTs to work with them. It won't be hard and will take very little convincing. Not to mention King Obama is the "world's president." Like I said, he's just posturing of the media. The liberal media loves him and his pretty speeches. Journalists have become babbling idiots since O burst on the scene.
I hope President Obama is watching "The View". sm
T. Boone Pickens is on there -- he is one brilliant man, and President Obama needs to pay attention to that this man has to say!!
and Obama DOESN'T mis-speak?-dont go there
Don't go there unless you are ready to hear it back. Obama thinks there are at least "57" states and talks of when the "bomb was dropped on Pearl Harbor". He is also the king of "uhhh" and "ummmm". He reads a teleprompter well. Otherwise, he makes many mistakes when speaking.
So what? Biden doesn't know the half of what Obama does....nm
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