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I have no problem with US drilling its own oil, BUT 10-15 years down the road

Posted By: Democrat on 2005-08-30
In Reply to: oil - gt

or even 20 years, will we be in the same situation we are in today. The oil resources we have will not last forever at the rate we are using today, and I expect we will continue to increase the amount of oil needed to maintain the country.

So, yeah go ahead and start the US drilling, but once that is bankrupt we will still be in the same place unless other alternatives like hybrid cars, etc, are seriously used as an alternative.


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Just wait and see what happens a few years down the road. (nm)
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Drilling in Alaska?
Whats up with liberals making a huge deal about Bush going to Iraq for oil and then they complain about Bush wanting to drill in Alaska.

Doesn't that controdict itself??!!

drilling in Alaska
They just want to argue with everything.  Doesn't matter if nothing gets done, in fact, that is probably what they are trying to do, so they can say the Bush Whitehouse didn't do a thing.  They (liberals) block everything, or try to, just because.
I agree that drilling

in Alaska and in our oceans is only a temporary fix.  But it will at least help until we can get a better solution to our energy problem here.  That is if government continues to search for alternative fuel sources instead of calling it quits when we drill for our own oil. 


As for the war, it is costing us a butt load of money and we can't continue this forever.  However, in watching a program on terrorists and the attacks on the USA, I realized that there was a pattern of terrorist attacks on us that were not handled well by the government and that stemmed all the way back to Reagan all the way to G. W.  Granted, they weren't as huge of attacks as 9/11 but they still happened.  We had to do something.  We had to show terrorists that we would not take their crap.  They were bullying us by terrorist acts.  If you keep backing down from a bully....they will continue to bully.  You stand up to them....they back off.  I truly believe that was the whole point of going to war.  The surge has worked.  Now is the time to slowly pull back so we can stop the spending there.  If we had sent more troops there to begin with, I think the surge would have been more successful sooner and that is one thing McCain pushed for was more troops.  Obama was totally against it and said it would fail.  Well....the surge did not fail.  Obama's government plans,  however, WILL fail.


He also tried to give drilling rights in Utah's Nat'l.
Nice, huh? Those parks aren't HIS to give... they're everybody's parks, and we don't want to stinkin' oil wells ruining them.
He also tried to give drilling rights in Utah's Nat'l.
Nice, huh? Those parks aren't HIS to give, either... they're everybody's parks, and we don't want no stinkin' oil wells ruining them.
I forgot to add I like what she says about energy and drilling and not being dependent on other coun
She is a very strong woman and I have every confidence in her she will be a great VP and even great President if it came down to it.

Go McCain/Palin.
Romaing dinos against backdrop drilling in the Rose Garden.
McC camp ramping up that new mantra. O Humor is a communist plot.
McSocialist promises to SHARE THE WEALTH from offshore drilling revenues

At least he and SP seem to be on the same page today.  SP:  "...and Alaska - we're set up, unlike other states in the union, where it's collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs"....boasting to a reporter of having been able to send a check for $1,200 to every man, woman and child in the state since, quote "Alaska is sometimes described as America's socialist state, because of its collective ownership of resources.”


 


We have been down this road before (sm).
Here is a list of enactments passed under the 110th Congress. Precisely which of these do you hold responsible for breaking the bank?

1. February 2, 2007 — House Page Board Revision Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-2, 121 Stat. 4
2. May 25, 2007 — U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans' Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007, Pub.L. 110-28, 121 Stat. 112, including Title VIII: Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2007, 121 Stat. 188
3. June 14, 2007 — Preserving United States Attorney Independence Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-34, 121 Stat. 224
4. July 26, 2007 — Foreign Investment and National Security Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-49, 121 Stat. 246
6. August 3, 2007 — Implementing Recommendations of the 9/11 Commission Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-53, 121 Stat. 266
7. August 5, 2007 — Protect America Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-55,121 Stat. 552
8. September 14, 2007 — Honest Leadership and Open Government Act, Pub.L. 110-81, 121 Stat. 735
9. November 8, 2007 — Water Resources Development Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-114, 121 Stat. 1041 - Veto Overridden
10. December 19, 2007 — Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, Pub.L. 110-140, 121 Stat. 1492
11. February 13, 2008 — Economic Stimulus Act of 2008, Pub.L. 110-185, 122 Stat. 613
12. May 21, 2008 — Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act, Pub.L. 110-233, 122 Stat. 881
13. May 22, 2008 — Food and Energy Security Act of 2007 (2007 Farm Bill), Pub.L. 110-234, 122 Stat. 923
14. June 30, 2008 — Supplemental Appropriations Act of 2008, Pub.L. 110-252, 122 Stat. 2323, including Title V: Post-9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Act of 2008 ("G.I. Bill 2008")
15. July 10, 2008 — FISA Amendments Act of 2008, Pub.L. 110-261, 122 Stat. 2436
16. July 29, 2008 — Tom Lantos Block Burmese JADE (Junta's Anti-Democratic Efforts) Act of 2008, Pub.L. 110-286 122 Stat. 2632
17. July 30, 2008 — Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008, Pub.L. 110-289, 122 Stat. 2654
18. October 3, 2008 — Public Law 110-343 (Pub.L. 110-343), including:
a. Div. A: Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, H.R. 1424;
b. Div. B: Energy Improvement and Extension Act of 2008; and
c. Div. C: Tax Extenders and Alternative Minimum Tax Relief Act of 2008

We are already too far down the road...sm
Nothing will save us from a depression now. The only question is who can turn us around. Not who can turn us around the quickest, just who can turn us around period! A very heavy burden. It will take an extradinary person to get us out of this awful mess.
i wouldn't go down that road
When you start knocking down spouses, but especially children, of politicians that's pretty low. Not all families "look similar". My BIL was not his father's son, but he claims he looks the most like his father. There is a definite non-resemblance there but he doesn't see it.

As for Chelsea? Oh please, I've heard her speak and she is too infatuated with her mother and how great she thinks her mother is she doesn't understnad the issues, and she doesn't sound all too intelligent. Makes me wonder where that education money went her parents spent on her education.

I think McCain's daughter is a pretty and doesn't look "challenged" as you call it, but to start commenting on who you think is pretty or not pretty or whose hair color is nice or not nice. I woun't go down that road, cos we could really get into Hillary's hair color and others.
notes from the low road...
hi folks, Joe and I are going to keep on campaigning (fiddling while Rome burns) and they will call us if they need us....hey! Wonder why they aren't calling???
Nah, just a big bump in the road. sm
There was another big recession in 1991. Bill Clinton cleaned it up during his presidency, and we ended up with a budget surplus.


We need responsible government again to get us back on top. It will happen, but it will take a while.

You really want to go down the lobbyist road?
can you say glass house?
Since you chose to go down this road...

...with me.  This is cut and pasted from the web site.  While this does not specifically name soft drinks, anything that rings up as taxable on the register is ineligible.  In Ohio, only foods for home consumption are nontaxable; restaurant food is taxable;  soft drinks are taxable; paper products, soap, etc. 


Okay, NOW you're excused!  And still not credible.  But thanks for playing! 


Households CAN use benefits to buy:


























Foods for the household to eat, such as:
  -- breads and cereals;
  -- fruits and vegetables;
  -- meats, fish and poultry; and
  -- dairy products.

Seeds and plants which produce food for the household to eat.


In some areas, restaurants can be authorized to accept benefits from qualified homeless, elderly, or disabled people in exchange for low-cost meals.


Households CANNOT use benefits to buy:































Beer, wine, liquor, cigarettes or tobacco;

Any nonfood items, such as:

  -- pet foods;
  -- soaps, paper products; and
  -- household supplies.

Vitamins and medicines.


Food that will be eaten in the store.


Hot foods.


sighhh...you just can't avoid the low road can you?
lol
Better the high horse than the low road....nm
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Road runs both ways......... sm
Time will tell.
Obama is middle of the road?
That road must by at the Indianapolis 500, because it only seems to TURN TO THE LEFT.
Memo to Hillary: Road Trip!

Memo to Hillary: Road trip to that place between King City and Coalingo


Dear Hillary:


I know you've been real busy with sniper fire and 3:00 a.m. phone calls, etc., but have you ever seen that commercial for AT&T internet service, where the guy says he's on the road between "King City and Coalingo" (sp?) (There are several commercials out there for this product, and the theme for them is people's "moments.")


In the one I'm referring to, there's a guy is standing near a big field with a bunch of cows, explaining how his service lets him do business anywhere, and after he's through explaining how it works and how his bid was the first one in, he gets a text message and says, "It looks like I got the account."


An old man appears and says, "Congratulations on your moment."


Hillary, PLEASE drive yourself have your chauffeur drive you (with or without your cell phone) to that field "between King City and Coalingo" and take a L-O-N-G walk through that field. (Be sure to fill up have one of your servants fill your gas tank first.) Pet a cow or two. Resist the urge to whip out that gun yer granddaddy taught you how to shoot if you become hungry for a filet mignon; maybe you could make a have your maid make a PBJ before your departure (you know, the kind of food that more and more of us hard-working white people are forced to rely on in today's economy). Along the way, don't be afraid to step into the very thing that comprises your soul. Take a deep breath (lots of them). Try to place yourself into Barack Obama's shoes (sans cow dung) and explore WHY it is that YOU believe you must control everything -- even when you're the loser. Why is it that YOU think YOU get to dictate the terms of everything, even if you don't have the right to do so?


You have repeatedly said you're "in it to win it." You didn't win it. Now pretend to have some grace and/or just some personal decency and do NOT try to strong-arm the person who DID win it. There are a lot of women who would be good Vice Presidential candidates, all of whom believe in and would be loyal to President Obama, none of them potential orphan-makers.


Take a good, long look at those cows, Hillary. Maybe you'll learn a thing or two about "moments." Hopefully, you'll even learn a thing or two about yourself.


Edited by Moderator for aggressive and strange language.


The dems are taking the high road?
What little bubble do you live in and what are you smoking?  The dems have had dirty ads just as much as the pubs have.  The ad showing McCain's face and scares and talking about his health.....WAY uncalled for.  The only reason the dems haven't fully attacked Palin and that church was because they want to keep conservative Bible thumpers in their favor.  If they attack Palin for that, they lose the Bible thumpers.  They aren't taking the high road....they are just trying to keep voters who they normally wouldn't get.
Heroe..like - He can't take the high horse and then claim the low road.

Bushisms


I appreciate that question because I, in the state of Texas, had heard a lot of discussion about a faith-based initiative eroding the important bridge between church and state.


I mean, there needs to be a wholesale effort against racial profiling, which is illiterate children.


See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda.


The law I sign today directs new funds and new focus to the task of collecting vital intelligence on terrorist threats and on weapons of mass production.


http://www.wisdomquotes.com/cat_bushisms.html


For this you have to wait at least 3 years and 8 months , maybe 7 years and 8 mohths...nm
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Not quite- 2 years Catholic, 2 years Muslim. NM
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Any of you live in the midwest? Just in case you live down the road from me...

I live in Wisconsin and am often also in Minnesota.


No, I'm not a stalker or a weirdo (my opinion, anyway).


Would expect Obama to take high road. To expect this
One of many issues of valid concern is the fact that Palin would accept this nomination knowing full well (or maybe not) that when the broadcast media get done with this, Bristol's entire life for at least the next 5 years or so, will be red meat for publications like the Enquirer. Judgement. Priorities? The cat's out of the bag now, and I say that with no joy whatsover. In fact, across party lines, left or right, anybody with red blood coursing through beating hearts would stop and for one single moment experience the pain that poor girl must be feeling. Despite this, her mother has put her in the position to put a smiley face on no matter what, or go under the witness protection program, change her name and leave the country. Fair game? Of course not. National spotlight. You bet, and there is no turning back now.
Follow the yellow brick road....follow....
the yellow brick road. The great and powerful O will take care care of you. Watch out for those flying monkeys he is surrounding himself with tho....LOL. You folks kill me. This is ALL on you. You gave him the power. Remember that....
In 100 years, no one will that's for sure. NM

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Could be, he's never come on TV? Years ago maybe?
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oh, okay, but he followed him for 20 years!
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Which was 4 years ago....
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You were 16 years old once...
what if it was said about you, about your daughter if you had one....or about your mother when you were 16?.....come ON now. YOu know how vulnerable girls are at that age. That was a really really really LOW below the belt hit. Mean and nasty.
Except for the first 6 years.
In other words, 75% of the time. Even when they did, they didn't. It's kinda hard to advance a meaningful agenda when being subjected to the acid ink in the runaway veto pen.
I think it's because he's up in years
I also get the same impression, but to be realistic one must consider that she may become President if something were to happen to him. 
what, are you now 2 years old?
i just have to roll my eyes sometimes.
Well, a few years ago when we had that...
stocket market tank (all though it did not last all that long) was enough for me...took my 401K money (not a huge amount, but I need it to be there) and put it in traditional IRA's that in federally insured bank. I am not young enough to let it build back up with stock market ups and downs. Younger folks a lot more years in the work force can wait for it to build back up (and it always has), but I can't take the risk.

I don't think small private banks are at risk.

It was much worse than this when Carter was in the White House and we managed to get through that...this too shall pass. A little saying I once heard seems to sum it up...."When one door closes, another opens, but it is he11 in the hallway for awhile." :)
The only way we'd get another 8 years is

if the dems are still in control against a pub president.


I heard the above comment in either an ad or in the debate itself and I almost flipped. You don't hear much about it yet, but it will come out sooner or later (and hopefully sooner).


Yes in in the last two years
the econmy took a dive. Gas prices rose and made the price of everything soar. That is what you get under democratic leadership.
I did years ago n/m
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That's over three years old......you just now
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For 2 years out of 8
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I'm sure you will be for the next 4 years
all the way to the bank with other people's hard earned money...
maybe in 100 years

Our kids will tell stories about us working six days a week, all hours of the day and night to stay at home with them.  About how we had no health insurance, but somehow we managed to pay those hospital bills.  How the mortgage broker tried to get us to refinance one more time, but we saw through the scam.  How did we ever make a car payment for 5 years without going crazy?  How we competed with workers in a virtual world and still managed to out produce them. Maybe they will think that we were pretty tough too.  I think we are!


Just the first of many to come in the next 4 years....
sorry, I have to raise taxes; sorry, I have to continue the war in Iraq; sorry, I can't provide healthcare for everyone; sorry, I have to change the constitution; sorry, I can't keep any of the promises I made while campaigning; sorry, I have no experience dealing with terrorists, sorry, I fooled you into voting for me.
GP, my DH and I have been saying this for years. sm
We have long been advocates of sending the illegals back, closing our borders, cut the pork, etc. I am so glad there are others out there. This is going to my sens and reps. Especially as DH gave them all an earful yesterday. We need everybody out there to send this along.
I don't have 10-20 years. I have 4

unless I want to work until I'm 70 or 80. What kind of mind will i have then? Will I be able to figure out what a doc is saying?


I'll probably be one of those homeless people in another 10 years unless they straighten out all the problems. I certainly will not be able afford the taxes we pay on our property, even though it's free and clear of a mortgage.  At tha rate they expect taxes to rise, I'll be out on the streets.


The O will not be able to stop it. There's too many factors changing the economy. I'm just hoping things wil l straighten out, but I no longer have any faith in our government, no matter who runs the country. The so-called respresentaves are only out for themselves in the past few years and it doesn't matter who's in charge.


Write your congressmen or senators and what do you get? A "canned" letter that they will take your suggestions "under consideration"  and  "are doing whatever they can to fix the situation".  I'm tired of  it.  It's the same old, same old.


O has reneged on some of his promises already. He spoke in all those other countries when he was running for prez (and isn't there a law against going to a foreign country to make promises(?) if he becomes president? He smoothed over so many countires that they thought they were finally going to get a prez that would straighten out the U.S. and all of a sudden, he is for Israel and against the Muslin terrorists communities. "Scuse me, butl lying to other ountries doesm't cut it.


I can only hope that O will keep some of his other promises bvut I don't see how he can with the economy the way it is at this pointl So all those people who voted for O with the hope of change (remember those who stated they would not have to worry about their mortgage, etc.), it ain't gonna happen.


O is a smooth talker and I almost fell for his ideas, but when I started to really think about it, there's no way he can accomplish all he plans to do, even in 8 yeras.


Well, I'll get off my soap box now. These opinions are mine and mine alone. You may not agree with my thoughts, but there's no reason to bash me for my honest opinion.


 


Yes, I am better off than I was 8 years ago...(sm)
However, since two years ago and the advent of the democratic congress, I am a tad worse....

but still better than the Clinton years.


Bracing for getting even worse under the O.


It's a fact that the economy always downturns under a democratic congress....double whammy with a democrat in the white house, too.....oh joy, what a ride we're all in for.
Yes, I am better off than I was 8 years ago...(sm)
However, since two years ago and the democratic majority in congress, I am a bit worse, down 20% in earnings.

But still much, much better than the Clinton years.


Bracing for getting even worse under Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Franks, and that whole lot.


It's a fact of economics, that there is always a downturn under a democratic congress....double whammy with a democrat in the white house, too.....oh joy, what a ride we're all in for.
Where were you for the first 6 years
Perhaps you were the one on another planet. Their failures led to the Dems getting control of Congress in the first place.
he's 10 years old

you total doofus. Make him a villain.  Guess Art Linkletter was an enabler.