I have been holding my tongue on that ...sm
Posted By: Democrat on 2006-06-30
In Reply to: Supreme Court Ruling. - Lurker
It is interesting though. These were Bush, Reagan, Ford and Clinton appointees that made this decision (5-3). And I see where the right is upset, but to me it is pivotal that they followed the law and not beliefs and I'll tell you why.
Charles Lane, writer for the Washington Times wrote (see link below), *Brushing aside administration pleas not to second-guess the commander in chief during wartime, a five-justice majority ruled that the commissions, which were outlined by Bush in a military order on Nov. 13, 2001, ***were neither authorized by federal law nor required by military necessity, and ran afoul of the Geneva Conventions.*** As a result, no military commission can try Salim Ahmed Hamdan, the former aide to Osama bin Laden whose case was before the justices, or anyone else, unless the president does one of two things he has resisted doing for more than four years: operate the commissions by the rules of regular military courts-martial, or ask Congress for specific permission to proceed differently.*
Looking at it this way, *Bush* NOT the Supreme Court, has held this up for four years when he could have done the prior one or two things. No president can just willy nilly make up things as he goes without going through the proper channels. This case is no different. Checks and balances is taught in elementary nowadays. I predict as he ways he will, he will get with Congress and they will collectively make a decision on something that will bring the POWs to justice (wishful thinking).
Do I want to see bin Laden's assistant, or any other war criminals walk? No, especially not the perpetrators in the 9-11 attacks. That's something I do not want to see come of this decision, but we must respect our own democracy in seeking justice.
This is just my opinion of what I understand is going on with the decision. If anyone can shed some more light on it I'd appreciate it. Have a good holiday weekend!
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Bite Your Tongue !!!!!
He has been my governor for 8 loooooooong years. He is smarter and more articulate than W but he is the definition of ruthless.
lol....I like how she sticks her tongue out at the end.
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Did you stick your tongue out at me too?
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Tongue firmly in cheek, please
Okay, I just checked out the website and have come to the conclusion that the whole thing is indeed a joke. Somebody's got WAAAY too much time on their hands (funny if you read it in the right frame of mind, scary if you take it seriously).
Sometimes comments are made tongue in cheek....
like Obama saying (in response to comment about Bill Clinton being the first "black President:" he would have to see Clinton dance to see if he was really a "brotha." Imagine the bruhaha if Rush Limbaugh said that.
That being said...again I invite people to check out Obama's church and his pastor. The pastor has made several racist comments, not only about whites in general, but Jews in particular. Jesse Jackson has as well. There are a host of black racists out there. The pastor is a great admirer of Louis Farrakhan (the pastor). They don't come much more racist than Louis Farrakhan.
And, frankly...Rush Limbaugh is not running for President. Barack Hussein Obama IS.
I would think his ties to racism would worry a person much more than a talk show host.
Many times I think Rush Limbaugh is over the top; however, he is also very astute and makes some very good points...if he did not, liberals would not hate him to the degree they hate him. The same people who decry him laud people on the other side...but I guess as long as it is conservatives being made fun of vs liberals...that is acceptable? Sigh. Sometimes the truth pinches...sometimes it downright hurts.
The only thing sam exercises is forked tongue
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Tongue firmly in cheek during that post....
after we have all been regaled here about why we should not be judgmental and be more open-minded like Barry from Chicago and the Europeans...LOL...well, the worm is turning it looks like. More power to him...at least he walks the walk as well as talks the talk. More than I can say for Barry from Chicago. lol. ;-)
I'm pretty sure that Pope post was tongue in cheek.
not biting....go away your snide little tongue in check post.....nm
Ever heard of tongue in cheek? Am adding comments
meant as a spoof, OT. Were I serious about this, then it would not be a case of tongue in cheek...rather foot in mouth.
Tongue in cheek political parody meant to mock
is generally not meant to be taken as fact. Those among us who actually stop and think before we post pretty much know this. BTW, please take your foot out of your mouth. It's not a pretty sight.
I'm not holding my breath......sm
I'll believe Obama gives me a tax cut when it happens, as well as help out with my health insurance. Can't tell from his website how "exactly" that's going to happen. His website if filled with a whole lot of words that are meaningless to me. Sounds good, but I don't see a lot of substance there, just like when he was campaigning.
Not holding my breath, but I'll come back and tell you if either of those things happen.
Not a Republican even though I leaned towards McCain over Obama, since he's such an unknown (and still is), and I actually decided I couldn't vote for McCain either....so my vote went to neither of them.
Who's holding a gun to your head? Don't like him
Simple as pie. Why spend your life being angry and posting these pathetically juvenile insults? Nothing better to do?
What's holding Edwards back?
Still holding out that last desperate hope
DNC has proven this over and over and over and over and over again. Burden or proof is now on the Berg the Boob.
the world is holding their breath
After 9/11 would the United States really elect a black man named Barack Hussein Obama?
Right now on C-Span, they are holding hearings
for the auto bailout. It's just starting.
We're not holding our breath. Owning up
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James Montgomery, Esq. is holding a press
conference. Jesse Jackson, Jr. is "candidate #5" and he thinks Blagojevich should step aside and resign and let the Lt. Gov. take over. He states JJ, Jr. is qualified for the position.
He states JJ, Jr. is not guity of anything. He is not worried about any consequences of this except the media frenzy that is being created by this. If the meeting between the Gov. and JJ, Jr. was taped, they have no concern over it.
He (JJ, Jr.) will be speaking with the investigators on Friday or Monday. He will be holding a press conference in 15-16 minutes.
There is a picture of her in a bathing suit holding
a gun...does that count?
Holding people accountable and blaming
people are 2 different things. Blaming either party will get us nowhere. The situation is upon us and the blame game is only holding up the resolution.
Holding people accountable may help to prevent a similar situation in the future. Holding someone accountable means owning up to their part in the problem and making retribution to fix the problem. If someone went along with this and gained financially from it, then that person should be accountable - own up and pay up. If someone went along with this and gained politically, then that person should be accountable - own up and give up (your position).
I took serious offense to your comment because you didn't say it was directed to the politicians on the hill. You said as a general statement to all dems.
so quit talking and start doing -- what's holding you
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It isn't the Navy holding her child support
The federal government has rules concerning how much of someone's paycheck that you can garnish. I personally was in the Navy (in payroll of all things) and when I went through my divorce, the court ordered a whole $325 a month for 2 kids (both in daycare at $120/week/per kid). We were both discharged just prior to the divorce and he purposely took a job that paid $6 an hour, working 20 hours a week. The judge, out of the kindness of his heart, based the child support on him making $6/hr at 40 hours, not the 20 he was working. He was capable of making more, but wanted to tick me off. BUT, you cannot garnish more than 60% of ones wages and if back support is owed, not more than 65% with the 5% going to pay off the arreage.
There are certain things that you can take into consideration when they garnish your wages (most states make it mandatory now). In the military, they cannot include your food ration money, housing money, uniform money and whatever extras they have these days. They can only include your base salary. Being that military pay royally sucks, I can see where they are not handing over everything that is owed, especially if he is lower ranking.
I know it bites the big one and I feel for your daughter, being that I have been there, but she can get through it and be stronger for it. She needs to show her kids that she can hold her head up high and trudge on. I'll keep her in my prayers.
Thinking good thoughts and holding him up...:-) nm
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Not bickering. Holding feet to fire. Like GP...
and I agreed to. Have a good night!
If that's the case, I'm holding a bake sale.
If my sending money to Israel can help them buy bombs to nuke the Palestinians off the face of the planet, I'm cutting them a check right now.
KaBOOOOOOM!
Mazel tov!
I'm not predicting anything...just holding onto that new 4-letter word
YES WE CAN
Oh...forum domination. Someone holding your hands behind your back....
and preventing you from posting? Or don't you have a cause you care enough about TO post?
That was not the question....Gitmo is a holding area for terrorists...
The Hanoi Hilton housed American soldiers. And yes, I think it is VERY important that a presidential candidate is a patriot, has integrity, strong in the face of unimaginable pressure, and puts his country even before himself. Yes, I think all those are VERY strong criteria for the Presidency. Obama has nothing in his resume to indicate that he is that patriotic, that UNself-serving, showed that he put his fellow prisoners above himself...and you compare that to a terrorist in Gitmo. Good grief. ??
Yep...and today he is holding a town hall in France...
yukking it up with Europe as his own country circles the drain....pittiiiffullll.
Remember Bush holding hands with Prince Abdullah???
So as far as reading anything into Obama trying to get our nation back on the right track, thank God what was here before no longer around.
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