I guess you haven't heard
Posted By: sm on 2008-10-31
In Reply to: The last time I checked.. - Just the big bad
Kenya is not part of the US.
This copy of a bc is not official and not real. I've also heard he also has a Canadian birth certificate.
You gave a link that led me to the LA times. That is not a credible source as they are trying to get him elected and are suppressing vital information (i.e. in the form of a videotap). They are part of the cover up.
If BO was born in Hawaii he would have an official bc. He does not! He can't produce one because he doesn't have one.
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I haven't heard anyone besides me say .....sm
good grief Gertie in a LONG time! hahahaha
There is nothing there I haven't heard
As I said, if this guy is so horrid, there has to be more than the same tired opinions about him than we have heard repeatedly for the last 2 years. As you said, thousands of people agree with these opinions, but millions of people voted for Obama. I didn't, in part because I was convinced there was something that hadn't been dug up yet. Now, I am not so sure. Everyone keeps blowing smoke, but no one has found the fire. Maybe there just isn't one.
Details please. I haven't heard about this
It seems pretty odd that he's offering to help low-income Americans since it seems he's an America hater. Do you have an article or documented info to back this up? Not that I don't believe you, but I haven't seen anything about this. Thanks!
I haven't heard that one - will have to check it out
I just think if she's (HC) is out there and has decided she should be president and she doesn't care how the people voted so she's going to have a bunch of people march and disrupt the convention, then I think every candidate who ran against Obama should do the same thing. Hey, why not just have the whole US vote again, and again, and again, and again until she gets the results she wants. Last I knew this was a democracy not dictatorship. I know exactly what she is trying to do. She's trying to tear the democrat party apart so McCain will win then she can run again in 4 years. She's ruthless....and worthless.
they may be lost (haven't heard that though), but
at least she doesn't blatantly stand there and say So what, your not going to get them and there's nothing you can do about.
Actually he's the messiah - haven't you heard
I tried pulling up your link but it directed me somewhere else and not sure what you were reading.
However Farrahkan says he is the messiah and most O lovers believe that so they must follow Farrahkan too.
As for alien? Maybe he was sent by illegal aliens, but you never know. If O was not an American born citizen and never even applied to become an American citizen, he may indeed be an illegal alien himself. Time will tell.
Haven't heard that one yet - no message
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You obviously haven't heard the audio or seen
it was put out by a black radio reporter. He wasn't being racist. He had a reporter out in Harlem, which is where his studio is, and was asking questions and he got some really ignorant answers. HE was making fun of them.
Why is it posters on this board who have been slammed by obvious racist remarks towards whites haven't complained but you seem to think something that wasn't racist but put out on an audio is racist?
I guess you haven't noticed...(sm)
that our national guard has been deployed in record numbers to the middle east. So, if our regular military is over there and our national guard is over there, who do you think is providing security here? If by chance we were actually targeted and invaded right now, exactly who would be fighting them off? You need to get over the fearmongering and look at the numbers.
You haven't heard about the sudden explosion
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So did Joe Biden....and we haven't heard from him in awhile since.
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So I guess you haven't had enough of a nightmare from the last eight years??
I hadn't thought about it but we haven't heard much, if anything about whether we are yellow,
Haven't heard a word about Palin being "caught in the act." s/m
Funny, haven't heard of any crowds of 100,000+ like Obama.
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Good don't guess. It's my guess though.nm
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How do you know they haven't?
That's the whole point. Bush acts like a dictator in complete privacy. Of course nobody can name names because this president thinks he can spy on whoever he wants without ever telling the person.
The sooner they impeach him, the safer this country will be.
No I haven't
but I'll try to remember to check it out.
At church last week our preacher had just gotten up to preach and he had just told us to turn to a Bible verse. So we all looked down to turn to the verse and when we looked up he was gone. Apparently he had stepped through the side door to go get a drink of water. Of course he came back out two minutes later, but someone made the joke that the rapture had come and he was the only one taken. It was pretty funny. Of course if it had really happened we'd have all of been with him (well hopefully, as I'm sure you know there are people in church who aren't really Christians!)
No, I haven't but
I'm seriously considering it...on a local level, of course, where I'm qualified. If I were younger............
I haven't seen that but I have seen others
There are just some very strange people in this country who think nothing of putting themselves on youtube giving their opinions (no matter what the subject). In today's world I would never ever put my face out for all to see stating my opinion. On this board is one thing (and even then I'm always concerned about what I post and who is watching it), but sometimes it's best to keep ones feelings to oneselves, especially if it is negative. The thought police are out there and you just never know what will come back at you for the worst.
I haven't seen her lately
When the election was going on (still when Hillary was running against Obama) and even shortly after the primaries ended I really enjoyed her. I thought she was level headed and brought out some good discussions and issues, but then towards the end of the election (maybe a couple weeks before 11/4) I found her starting to become opinionated and she jumped down someones throat about something that I thought she was clearly wrong on. She just became irritating and got under my skin a bit. I also really used to like Keith Olberman, but his coverage of the election was so unfair and between Keith and Rachel I just found them opinionated and not reporting facts and stuff so I kind of lost interest. Maybe I should try watching them again. It's funny about Hannity and Colmes. I cannot stand Hannity. He's just too uppity and goody two shoes and even D Morris would tell him stop focusing on certain issues and report on the other important ones and he doesn't listen. He annoys the you know what out of me. But Colmes...this guy is a crack up. I used to not be able to stand him. Now I enjoy listening to him. I don't agree with a lot of what he says, but I'll listen. I can take him a lot more than the others because he doesn't gloat about the O winning whereas the others do.
So I'll have to catch her show again and see if she's gotten better. Thanks for reminding me about her.
I'll tell you...if Bush is able to pardon himself....I think there is going to be a huge uproar. Mind as well just let the criminals decide what punishment they should get.
I haven't seen that.........sm
and don't know when it was made, but you can bet your bottom dollar that at the time it was made, that statement was probably meant to be comic relief. The average US citizen would have laughed at such a statement prior to this presidential election.
sorry, no they haven't......
There is tons of pork barrel in that package. Even the moderate democrats are sickened by all the crap in there and refuse to pass it. Obama must have forgotten the part where he said absolutely no pork barrel spending! Yea, right!
I haven't seen any
poll takers out asking mainstream America their opinion, only the fabricating media and perverted judges telling us how wonderful homosexuality is. The rest of America finds the act of homosexuality deplorable. ;-)
Really? You haven't?
Just to take the first point: How about a speech he gave in 2008 which he criticized the US because most of us speak one measly language, while Europeans often speak 2 or 3? There is actually a pretty good reason for that, by the way. A person could drive in Europe a distance equal to the trip from Cincinnati to Chicago and pass through several countries. Some countries even have several dialects. Many European countries are tiny. Being multilingual in Europe is very practical. America is huge and people a couple of thousand miles away can understand one another in a single language, from youse guys to y'all.
I don't remember ever hearing a US president or presidential candidate publicly criticize his country the way this one has (well, maybe Kerry). And of course our foreign critics simply lap it up. I think Michelle Obama has some foreign language skills, but I've got to wonder in what second and third languages Barack himself is fluent. Surely he must be.....
I was unable to find the full text/location/date of the speech I am referring to, but here's a link to an article on it. Sorry, it does seem to be an piece that is overall critical of the great man, but then the mainstream would probably not have mentioned this at all
http://www.libertylounge.net/forums/32918-obama-again-shows-how-out-touch.html
Oh, by the way, no spam file, I wrote it. Whether or not you find it witty, it's the way I view O's public criticism of the US, as though we are a collection of bumpkins he's stuck with and trying desperately to fix up.
Hey! Haven't seen you in a while...nm
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What makes you think they haven't.
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I haven't been here that long but
long enough to see clearly how immaturely they operate. PHEW!
Then you haven't been listening.
I have seen at least four conservatives express concerns about Bush on several occasions, and they even elucidated them. Of course, you would have to take off those blinders to see them but you aren't about to do that. What a joke. As far as your remarks about racisms, I consider your remarks extremely racist. And never mind the fact that black Americans, one of whom was quoted here, are also defending Bennett. Their voices don't count because they must be Uncle Tom's, right. AGAIN, a racist way of thinking.
You are so right. I haven't posted here
for this very reason. Certain posters (you know who you are) will come here to bash posts even when they are addressed to liberals. Apparently it doesn't matter to them that the moderator has repeatedly asked them not to do so and they can't seem to resist the urge to come over to this board when, in fact, they have their own. They've done it to me, they've done it to PK and others. Good luck to you...it's too bad, 'cause they ruin the discussion for everyone else and it gets to the point where it just isn't worth it.
obviously you haven't seen Sicko
good god i wish we had it like France. Not sure what Canadians you are talking to but the ones i've seen are afraid to come to the US because of our health care system, "what if" an accident occurs in the US? and just maybe we DO need a waiting period for certain things. I know plenty of people that run to the doctor for every little thing. Maybe if they give their bodies a chance to heal itself instead of expecting to get antibiotics every time we might have less cases of MRSA. it's what drives up the cost of insurance and health care in general
At least we haven't been attacked
again on our soil....if tricky Billy Clinton did HIS job while in office, Bin Laden would have been taken care of and 9/11 would have never happened. Happy anniversary to you. Bush is far from perfect but we have been safe at home.
haven't roosted yet
but baby there will be a big, big party in Jan when they do!
I would venture to say, you haven't; you just
wanted to stop searching because it was leading to too many things that didn't look good for Obama.
yeah i haven't either
a friend of mine was called, they were trying to persuade her to vote for obama. Apparently they got an earful. LOL....
PS... My family is voting for McCain too...
I haven't researched but
I would imagine it is $250,000 on the bottom line profit since that is what we all pay taxes on. I agree that a business with a gross income of $250,000 is not all that much, as a rule of thumb, probably $125,000 net. On the other hand if it is $250,000 NET that's a pretty darn good income and I say they could well afford to pay a few measly dollars so those making a net of say $25,000 could have a little relief. But the middle or lower class workers are going to get NO relief because the big businesses are going to protect their greed and the small businesses have to raise their prices to survive. Example: We ate at a family owned restaurant the other night. Sirloin steak was $17.95 the last time we ate there was $21.95. The owner posted a sign apologizing for the price increases but said he didn't have any choice if he was going to stay in business because of his wholesale prices going up. THANKS Bush and big oil.
Haven't you voted YET?
What are you waiting for?
I haven't voted yet.
I'm planning on hitting the polls a little later this morning. Not too concerned about lines as our polling place is in a small town.
Gee Sam...wonder who you voted for. LOL! Go McCain/Palin!!!
Oh believe me I haven't given up hope
I'm just not liking the way things are beginning to shape up. Some people are so hung up on McCain/Palin they can't get over it to see what is happenening. That will accomplish nothing. We need to be working on things we might be able to change, such as starting a protest with our Congressmen/women letting them know even before O takes office (and despite those who think they're still going to get McCain) he will take office. When he announces the appointment of Hillary Clinton I will kiss my "hope" in him goodbye.
Haven't you noticed?
The posts about your so-called disaster sat up there all day yesterday and elicited next to nothing in the way of response. Noise on Focks and related subjects, like alien spaceships, come from the parallel universe and hardly qualify as real news. The only interest you will see there will be coming from the zombies marking lock-step behind the propaganda machine.
Haven't you noticed?
The posts about your so-called disaster sat up there all day yesterday and elicited next to nothing in the way of reponsees. Noise out of Focks and related subjects, like alien spaceships, comes from the parallel universe and hardly qualifies as real news. The only interest it will generate will be from the zombies marching lock-step behind the propaganda machine.
haven't been following this discussion at all BUT
isn't that calling the kettle black? I only clicked on this message cause it was the latest posted one... and after reading it i go... um excuse me... did you EVER given the current administration a break? for ANYTHING? And i dont want to hear they did this and this and this and this. that's fine, people were against them from the beginning too. This happens on BOTH sides, why doesn't everyone agree that there are hypocrites on each side!!! that is hypocritical in itself when you ALWAYS point fingers at the other side! Differing opinions is one thing, but to say that the RIGHT cant give this government a break? Well that's because they OPPOSE what it is they stand for! just like the left opposes what the right stands for!!!!
Always do. Haven't used a cc in 3 years now.
You're not opposed Citigroup using bailout money to sponsor the inauguration?
IOW, you were for the financials getting bailout money and then letting them do whatever they wanted to do with it? Like hosting great parties, spa resorts, etc?
I have always been against the bailout and I'm still against letting the financials use the money as if it's a free handout. They don't have to pay it back. WE do.
Now, O is trying to get Congress give them MORE? No way. Not without lots of stipulations.
Haven't forgotten that, but...(sm)
I also haven't forgotten what Clinton did to try to go after terrorists and how Bush managed to put all that work on a shelf.
http://www.truthout.org/article/clinton-911-and-facts
Just think, while Clinton was trying to work on all this, all you guys could do was worry about where his peter was.
I haven't had that reaction when...
watching/listening to him speak. Instead, my impression is that he's thinking on his feet and trying to choose his words very carefully. In that regard, he's a definite improvement over his predecessor (LOL).
Having said that, I can definitely understand how he could come across to people as he comes across to you.
The press seems to be riding his tail pretty close, and I hope they continue to do so. (Just the other day, I saw a clip where the press secretary, Robert Gibbs, was 20 minutes late, and a member of the media scolded him, saying basically to knock it off, that nobody appreciates sitting around and waiting for Gibbs to begin a press conference.)
MSNBC (who was definitely in the "tank" for him) is beginning to challenge some of his actions/words, which I think is good.
Haven't you figured out yet that
obviously according to JTBB that black people are allowed to be racist. It is the white fold who aren't allowed to make any sort of comment against any other religion or race or their career will be in the dumpster. Minorities are the only ones allowed to be racist vocally.
To me....Rev. Wright is nothing but a racist black man who is bitter with a huge chip on his shoulder. He says what he wants when he wants and obviously there is as reason why Obama was made to get away from him....even though he really didn't want to in the beginning.
For those that haven't seen this.....reposting..
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7886780711843120756
Haven't you figured it out yet?
Some of these folks are so caught up in the Obama "blind" love affair, they can't focus on reality!!
Don't talk to me like I haven't
lost people due to other health issues. I don't want government telling us what we can and can't do, but deep down I cannot hate regulating cigarettes. My dad would still be alive today if it weren't for his smoking habits. Not only did he choose to kill himself with cigarettes but he exposed me, my mom, and sister and brother to that poison filled smoke for years. God only knows what health issue we might have later in life. My dad was a healthy man for years. He worked as a salvage man for GM for 30+ years until he couldn't breathe enough to work anymore and he retired. I literally watched my dad go from a strong healthy man to a man who couldn't walk from his chair to the bathroom without blow breathing to try and breathe. I watched my grandfather die of emphysema as well because of his smoking. Yes....it was their choice to smoke, but they are still my family and I lost them because of that. You cannot help hate something to took away the people you loved so much. I watched my dad struggle to breathe for so long and then when he was in the hospital and I could literally hear the gurgling in his lungs while he tried to breathe....I just finally asked God to stop it. Make it stop and an hour later....He did. Don't preach to me about other health issues because I know they exist too. You tell me to allow you to choose to kill yourself smoking. That is your choice and more power to you but for once....think about your kids and how they would feel watching you die like that. My dad loved me and he was one he!! of a provider for the family but I'd give anything to have him back and I can't have him back. My dad was killed by cigarettes....end of story. You can't blame me for hating cigarettes. I don't want anyone else to have to die the painful death that he did. It was so slow and then....he was gone. I actually tried to mimic his breathing one time and I couldn't do it. It hurt just for that short time. I can't even imagine living years like that until you couldn't breathe at all.
I really don't want government to control our lives like this but deep down...I can't help but like the idea of regulating cigarettes. I know government shouldn't but I just don't want other people to go through what I did when I lost my dad. I can't help but feel that way.
I haven't, nor have I followed his politics. I just agree with MOST of what he said...sm
on the Factor. That's it.
I happen to share most the view points that he put out there on the factor.
Not calling Bill Billy, but most everything else was right in in my book.
We'll just have to agree to disagree.
You haven't tried to engage in a debate.
All you've done is attack. We don't care for that low class type of behavior on this board. We want this to be a friendly, respectful place, but you and all the others from the CON board (assuming there actually are different people and not just difference voices in someone's head), can't stand respectful. You can't stand friendly. You're not happy unless you're intruding on someone else's space and bullying them.
You're just very distasteful people, and you have your own board. Please take your dumps over there. It's really starting to reek over here. <PHEW!>
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