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I guess I missed it, or Obama got a hold of it. SM

Posted By: MT and worn out on 2008-11-02
In Reply to: Thought you all would find this interesting - Backwards typist

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I guess I must have missed something. s/m
Because it seems to me that most of these posts are about slamming Obama or dems or "progressives" as you call them, or putting down the people that are genuinely happy about the prospects for a brighter future, which we have not felt for a long time.  Some of us lean left, and some of us lean right, but we ALL need to do a little more leaning FORWARD if we are going to make any progress. 
Guess you missed the part about
Afganistan is where it's at. Obama gets that. He also gets Islamic parties, politics, principles and culture and knows precisely how to use that knowledge to get the Moslem world to isolate their own fringe elements. Bush and McCain know how to promote policies that anger and empower terrorists to declare WWIII and turn the whole world up-side-down.
I am sorry, I guess you missed the sarcasm.
Besides, I asked for someone to give me details and facts that Mrs. Obama is "snooty" and looks down on everyone else.
I guess you missed the part in his . . .

speech where he proudly mentioned that HE is a CHRISTIAN!!!  Seriously, does that really sound like downplaying religion?  GET REAL.


I guess I missed the part where she was...
conspiring to rid the world of gays. I read that she simply wished her daughter to not be exposed. Unfortunately, I agree with you that she is probably fighting a losing battle, but why is everyone so hard on her trying to keep that kind of thing away from her daughter? If she feels that strongly about it, then I would think that it is not only best for her to shield her child from such things, but her duty to keep her child from things that she views as harmful. Everyone has the right to protect his/her children from outside influence that he/she believes could be detrimental.
I guess I missed that. I am used to seeing blogs referenced.
You have a good day, too.
I guess you missed the part where he said one thing....
and voted another way. The teachers union in Chicago is responsible for the short days and skyrocketing salaries, but it is not translated in better educated kids. Did you not see the testing scores, the graduation rates, etc.? Of course not. When it got to the parts about Obama looking bad, skimmed right over that "substance." LOL. Sigh.
I guess I missed your earlier post....sm
because I'm not the 1 poster who did respond, lol. I am an Independent who happens to be voting Rebulican this election year (but I guess that is no secret, lol).

I agree....If a person, no matter who it is, is found to be constitutionally ineligible to hold the office of POUS then he/she should be impeached on grounds of treason and jailed immediately.
Guess Maria Gavrilovic missed the speech as well. nm
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I hope you hold him to it if he gets elected. If Obama...sm
get elected, and I hope he does, I will hold his feet to the fire and make sure he lives up to his promises.
Some Obama campaign promises are put on hold as the economy sinks
More doom and gloom, and more campaign promises will not be kept.

Is it just me, or does our President Elect look less and less, with each passing day, like the man that so many put into this office....and more and more like the rest of knew him to be?


Some Obama campaign promises are put on hold as the economy sinks

BY CELESTE KATZ
DAILY NEWS POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT

Sunday, January 11th 2009, 4:00 AM

Tackling the troubled economy is going to require Americans to sacrifice - and it means some campaign promises will have to be put on hold, President-elect Barack Obama says.

"Everybody's going to have to give. Everybody's going to have to have some skin in the game," Obama said on ABC News' "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" set to air this morning.

Obama's comments came as the President-elect, who takes office Jan. 20, responded to a new national unemployment report by saying in his weekly address Saturday that he'll save or create 3 million to 4 million new jobs.

"Our challenge is going to be identifying what works and putting more money into that, eliminating things that don't work and making things that we have more efficient," Obama said on ABC. "I want to be realistic here. Not everything that we talked about during the campaign are we going to be able to do on the pace we had hoped."

Obama agreed that his administration is going to involve some version of a "grand bargain" - changes in areas like tax reform, Social Security and Medicare will come at a cost.

Addressing the nation as his team released figures on the job situation, Obama said in his weekly radio and video address that 90% of the jobs will be created in the private sector. The remainder are "mainly public sector jobs" such as teachers, cops and firefighters.

The report released by Obama's team Saturday projected the creation of 678,000 new construction jobs and 408,000 manufacturing jobs by next year under an estimated $775 billion stimulus plan.

Among the sources of the new jobs Obama cited: designing more efficient cars and building solar panels, infrastructure roles such as repairing roads and bridges, and jobs in the health care and education sectors.

Obama said economists predict that if Congress doesn't agree on a large-scale stimulus plan, the U.S. will shed as many as 4 million jobs before the recession comes to an end.

Obama also vowed to procure "bipartisan extensions of unemployment insurance and health care coverage" and a $1,000 tax cut for 95% of working families.

"Given the magnitude of the challenges we face, none of this will come easy. Recovery won't happen overnight, and it's likely that things will get worse before they get better," Obama warned.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/01/11/2009-01-11_some_obama_campaign_promises_are_put_on_-1.html


If you would hold your Dem Congress as responsible as you hold me...
THAT would be progress. lol.
I guess Obama supporters......... sm

and bar owners really do not care about the danger the city could be in because of the legislation passed allowing bars to stay open 24/7 for 4 days.  I would think that safety would be a concern, but you just proved me wrong. 


So what - guess who endorses Obama
So what that Cheney endorses McCain. What did you expect - that Cheney was going to endorse Obama? - After all they are cousins?

I'd rather have Cheney's endorsement over the people who endorse Obama. Some of those people are:

1. Louis Farrakah.
2. Jeremiah Wright.
3. Moammar Kadafi.
4. Raila Odinga (his cousin).
5. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
6. William Ayers.
7. The people in the country of Libya.
8. The people in the country of Iran.
9. The radicals who cut off American's heads.
10. The people who want America destroyed.

So overall - I will take Cheney's support.
Yeah, guess Obama supports refuse to look at all
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Then if Obama is not guilty by association, I guess McCain definitely isn't either sm
Racism goes both ways and you know that!
Yes, we can always hold
more people see through the BS. Bush & Co. certainly are out in full force *catapulting the propaganda* and swiftboating anyone who disagrees, so who knows? Hopefully fewer people will buy it this time.

I'm sure your grandchild is the cutest and smartest!


You and your family are in my thoughts and prayers.

If you hold with J, that should be enough. nm
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We should not have to hold him up. He should hold
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Well hold onto your hat.....(sm)
because I know of 3 pub senators who are planning to say yea (despite threats from the GOP).  LOL.
Whoa...hold on there.

This is/was a good board with some good folks.  PERHAPS she just hadn't seen these posts.....maybe....hope that's the case.


Otherwise, I agree that it's probably time to boycott this board. I have long been aware of the definite bias of the powers that be.  But I still hold out hope for fairness in the long run.   And I was banned on the conservative board for calling someone stupid!!!!  (which I shouldn't have, I admit).


Oh, just hold that thought.

This is great - can we hold em to it? sm
First Rummy, then we will work on the rest. I think they are starting to realize they are getting backed up to the wall.

Boxer quote: You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig. Love it.
who they hold responsible for what?
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hold on to your hats

The bottom is starting to drop out of this thing.  I am positive the media (who are angry already about the phony "bias" attack by McCain) will NOT let SP's silence go unnoted. 


 


ifin' they did I would hold them

up as shiny examples of Moral Magnificance, same as Palin's daughter.


 


I''ve got a tux on hold

and a vacation day scheduled . . . just in case.


 


Someone needs to hold them accountable.
Obviously their own party is not going to. Glad to pile on Bush and the Republicans for every wrong they think they did, but accept no responsibility or ask accountability of their own party who let us ALL down.
Oldtimer, I do not understand that. No way, no how.
Nah, we have to hold our mouth in a
different position in that case. Must have been something else.
Whoa and hold on!!!

First and foremost, please express my personal appreciation to your husband for his service to this country.  By no means would I EVER  ridicule a military person.  They have served and DIED for the freedom we have and they continue to do so.  I say the war in Iraq is ridiculous and that is my personal opinion.  I think it was wrong from the getgo and I think it is WRONG to put our service men and woman in harm's way with many of them sacrificing their lives needlessly.  There has never been peace in the middle east and there never will be (IMO) all the way back to biblical times.


Bush's "excuse" for the war was to capture or kill bin Laden wasn't it?  So why has that not been done?  Because, again in my opinion, the war is not against terrorism but about the wealthy oil barons.


AND, I pray for you and your husband.  You too are making a great sacrifice and, again, your husband is serving his country and for that he deserves and gets from me the utmost respect whether or not I happen to agree with the politicians who sent him to war.  May he be safe and soon return to you.


Whoh! Hold on there.

CLINTON put a lot of those people in government spots. I think he called it Affirmative Action. 


 I worked for a patent attorney back then and after Clinton got in, half the patent office were, (how can I say it without being branded a racist?) Indian, Pakistani, and a mix of other races. My attorney would be furious when they would return a patent for an error, and he would have to do a 15 page brief on why there was NO error.


Why are all the gas stations and motels now owned, or mostly owned, by other races?  Where does the money come from?


There is a large VRAJ temple (sic) a few miles from my house. No one could afford to buy the property when it went up for sale because they wanted close to $1M for it. People from all over the world come there, yet a white person is not allowed to step 1 foot on their property or they will be arrested.


What's up with that?


I hold government as a whole
responsible and that includes all parties.  They are all greedy liars who just want to keep their seat and will say and do anything to draw followers in to get elected.  So this promise of change is not change at all.  It is the same political game that has been played since the very beginning.  They all suck.  I say we storm Washington with our pitch forks and torches and get all new people in office.  What say you?  LOL!
I don't hold much with "studies" but
all I know is my parents, who lived through the Great Depression credit FDR for saving the country.  I'll take the word of someone who has BTDT over any "study" any day.
I will hold to the tenants of one
one of the oldest, continuing faiths in the world. I don't see a quandry at all.
Don't hold your breath. I think the
next 4 years is going to be a sink or swim economy, and I don't think many people or companies can swim anymore. Too many are at the end of the rope and about to drown.
I hold government as a whole

responsible for this mess including the last administration as well as this one.  I do not like what President Obama is doing.  This stimulus package is a joke.  It is full of earmarks and pork.  I can smell the bacon being fried in D.C. all the way over here in Indiana. 


I want to see jobs created.  I want more focus on alternative fuels.  I want to tap the resources we have now and create jobs.  I'm tired of giving money to banks.  I'm tired of giving money to people who were irresponsible while harding working people suffer and try to stay afloat because of their bad decisions as well as the bad decisions made by crooks in government. 


I didn't totally agree with the bailout Bush pushed for either, but you know what....I believe Barry Obama voted yes to that.  He was in the senate and therefore I hold the senate responsible for things too.  Bush couldn't do everything himself and there were plenty of dems in congress during the last 4 years that could have stopped a bailout during Bush's term. 


I'm tired of the blaming game.  There are too many people involved to try and blame everyone and it isn't fair to blame just one person since so many were involved. 


I'm generally a middle of the road kind of person and in saying that.....I just do not feel that this stimulus package will stimulate the economy and I don't believe it will create and sustain jobs either. 


I also wish our current administration would take some time and make an effort to stop all of this offshoring as there are many Americans who would benefit from this as well.


Hold on. This has been going on for as long

as I can remember. DH had a friend who worked for GAO back in the 70s. He told us about it then. It's probably been going on earlier than that. So don't blame just one elected official.


You know, I'd really like to get a hold of the guys...sm

who sat and crunched the numbers and decided that it would be cheaper for their business to take American jobs and outsource them.  Cheaper for who?  If they would think this process out, and do the old school math instead of this fancy new math, they may have come up with a different answer. 


Take for instance transcription: 


Factor in hundreds to thousands of Americans losing their jobs to India, the newest craze in Transcriptionist outsourcing. 


Factor in the loss of revenue from how much each of those transcriptionists can no longer spend and help keep the economy balanced, ESPECIALLY in such a recession now. 


Factor in how little the government is going to issue out to these people who cannot find work so they can at least feed their family while they try to find something comparable to what they were doing.  Factor in the few government grants that people can qualify for because they are now low income.  Compare that to the millions they lost and are no longer contributing to the economy. 


Factor in the cut backs because people have lost their jobs and can no longer afford health care, and now the hospitals can no longer afford the MTSOs and have to bring what work they do have back in-house. 


Factor in now the MTSO that outsourced the work in the first place no longer has work available to outsource, thereby breeching contract, therefore having to pay huge fines, losing contracts left and right, and whoop, there goes another business under. 


Oh who am I kidding, what do they care?  They will just pay themselves a big bonus as they watch the company Titanic sink, and then AHDI and the lawyers will jump in and bail them out using the money that was skimmed from the employees who worked so hard for many years, just like the taxpayers!!??!! Man this country is messed up! 


Hold on. Not all pubs, please.

I try to have decent conversations, but there are others that only want to get everyone fired up. Just keep having decent conversations. They'll go away sooner or later.


BTW, I'm a pub but usually always vote for "the best man". Of course, we all know there are any of those guys left in D.C.


Just hold on here.....the woman was addicted....
addicts will do just about anything to get drugs. Murders are committed every day to get drugs. And it is not just the McCains who have pulled strings to avoid jail time. Although I need to research this before I talk much more about it.

Point being...this is not new in politics or any other walk of life. Are you saying she is somehow more responsible for her behavior while addicted than you would be or I would be, just because her husband is now running for President? And don't tell me if you had the means at your disposal to avoid jail and you were an addict that you would not use every one of them.

Are you holding her to the same standard you would hold yourself or a member of your family? If it were your mother or sister, and you had the means to help them avoid jail and get off the stuff, would you not do it?
I'm not ignoring Sally. She can hold her own,
meticlously discredit endless barrages of pub bash, misconceptions, misprentations and misinformation. I for one am preparing to bury the garbage under piles and piles of irrefutable fact by ensuring the focus stays on issues rather than personalities and that pub/NeoCon values are contrasted with O Vision in terms that will expose them for exactly what the pretend they are not...4 more years of same old poop without a change in sight. I suspect other O supporters know exactly what they are up against and what then need to be doing about it...and are doing it as we speak. For me, the quality of my life in the next 4 years depends ensuring Pub defeat in November and I am confident that other dems are similarly motived to do the same.
He was asked by the media to hold off on his...sm
press conference until they could get cameras to where he was and broadcast it live.
That is always how socialism takes hold....
promises, pretty speeches, and class warfare. How many posts have you seen here about "I am tired of the rich getting richer" and "we need someone to represent the middle class, not the rich" yada yada. It is already taking hold. And it NEVER works. All you end up with in socialism is all the money at the top (the government and cronies) and the rest of us at the bottom. The middle class DISAPPEARS. Look at venezuela...at Cuba...at the USSR before it broke up...and they will drag us all down the drain with them.

But mark my words...if it happens, won't be THEIR fault. Would be laughable if not so darned sad.
I wouldn't hold my breath. n/m

Why do pubs hold such anger toward
Your dark, dismal, gloomy world holds less than zero appeal. Times are changing...with or without you.
Wow! Thanks! According to your analysis there is no need to hold an election!
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I wouldn't hold my breath.
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Don't hold your breath waiting.
He already said that he can't do everything at once. "It may take a year, it may take 2 years, it may even take the first term to do it all, but it will be done".
I wouldn't hold your breath
He has no plans whatsoever to bring the troops home in 60-90 days. He is already saying they need to stay another 5 years. Not to mention all the other dangerous areas he plans to send them too once out of Iraq. Then once he gets the Civilian National Security up and running and the kids in college, etc trained they can be diverted too. Maybe he'll bring home the troops for a short LOA (leave of absence), but they will go right back.

Why do people think he needs to be president to break promises. He's already making decisions and he already has broken promises he made on his campaign trail (just to get the votes).

Broken promise #1. I will bring the troops home. - He's already said they will be there for at least the next five years. I read another article that said it won't happen until 2011, and that is from an agreement that Bush signed. So in 2011 even then Obama will not have brought them home, it will be because of Bush. If people had their minds and eyes open during the campaign they would have seen this as a clear trick to get the people to vote for him).

Broken promise 2. I will tax the rich. - He now is coming out and saying he will not tax the rich.

Broken promise 3. I will bring change to Washington. - And just how is he suppose to do that when his entire cabinet is being filled with old Clintonians. People are sick of the Bush's and Clinton's and he goes and drags back these #$%(* we were so happy to get rid of.

Broken promise 4. I will not have lobbyists in my administration. - Uh hellooooooo. There are at least 15 people in his cabinet who are lobbyists.

So, there are just 4 of his campaign promises he has broken. Has has picked his cabinet, and revealed his (no taxes for the rich) plan already and also the fact that he is not going to be bringing the troops home. Seeing as this is on camera and in writing you can say that he has broken his promises. Unless for some reason you think that on the day of his inaugeration he's going to tell all these people that he picked for his cabinet that it was only a joke and instead he's going to hire more capable people.

People are really questioning his ability to lead (and this is in other countries too), which clearly by his choices and decisions he has already made he is showing that he cannot. I just thank god Biden is in there.
Venezuela and Russia are going to hold

military manuevers near Venezuela.


 


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457106,00.html


We hold these truths to be self-evident
The weapons arsenals clearly tell the story of who the terrorists are. It's the occupation, stupid. There is no justifying it. The very idea that 21st century human beings would even THINK about trying to while the death toll approaches 700 vs 4, 50% of which are women and children with the portion of civilian men (fathers, sons, brothers, uncles, cousins and friends) and elders remaining undocumented, schools, markets, ambulance drivers and UN humanitarian workers being targeted, basic human services and infrastructure such as electricity, sewage disposal and roads destroyed in the middle of a press black-out and a land-and-sea blockade on all sides is positively SICKENING.