I find it strange that....(sm)

• Another press conference going on now - Backwards typist
  • I find it strange that....(sm) - Just the big bad
    • Actually we just don't want to hear him at all - me
      • And the alternative is...(sm) - Just the big bad
  • Better get used to it. He won't be hiding out - (sm)
    • He's not a promise keeper yet. Don't jump the gun. - Backwards typist
      • Why he keeps saying that. - (sm)
  • I read your response below too - we are on the same speed - He's quite arrogant, you know
    • I'm with both you and Backwards Typist on this.....sm - ms
      • Maybe he should go to Iraq and - Backwards typist
        • send bush to - cranberry
        • I'm glad to know I'm not alone in these thoughts - Just me
        • The thing about Obama wiggling, as you so....sm - ms
          • Why7 & how to think before you speak. - Proud of President-Elect Obama
            • whatever....goes for just about everyone at one time - or another...
            • Please ignore the typo ś" after the word why. - nm
              • Last try - ignore typo ś" after why. - nm
                • I give up...I keep typing 7 and it keeps changing it. - nm
                  • doncha hate that....lol... - keyboard has a mind of its own
        • It is good to think before you speak! - Proud of President-Elect Obama
          • Yes, one should always think before they lie - me
            • Thinking before you speak - Gimme A Break
              • Well shucks and golly gee - see message - me
                • Your thinker is broken. - sm
                  • perhaps your thinker is broken - cj
                  • Your mistaking feeling duped/foolish with hatred - me
                  • have you been anywhere rural lately?.. - Kendra
          • I think we all know how well he thinks - before he speaks. He
          • I agree. Too bad more folks don't - think before they post.

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He received a Christmas card when he was recovering in the VA Hospital.  The card said it hoped he died.  A picture of the car and the article are on the conservative board.  Lots of GIs got spit on coming home during Vietnam.  I don't call that strange. I call it abominable and unforgivable.

I do not get.

Me need new insult, yes.

That it will all come down to us.

I certainly hope that's true because we hate Hillary AND McCain.

First reaction is if these issues, which have been posted on O's website ever since he launched his campaign, are of such sudden concern to the cons and femocons, why did they not get addressed during the RNC?  Do you not see the high-jack strategy as the cons try to talk out of both sides of their mouths and reinvent themselves as the new age liberals?  How is this different than the now exposed folly of the compassionate conservative Bush/Cheney ploy?   

Small business.  Either you can't read, you think that we can't or your spin cycle is stuck in high gear.  Go here:  http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#small-business.  Plans to give tax relief for small businesses and startups, eliminate capital gains taxes on them and provide a $500 new making work pay tax credit (one of many) for workers.  For all those IC MTs out there, this is aimed at reducing the burden of double taxation in the current structure where small businesses pay both employer AND employee side of payroll tax.  Obama will INVEST $250 million per year in support of entrepreneurship, by creating national network of public-private business incubators to facilitate start-up creation.  Your $250,000/yr figure applied to tax cuts on INDIVIDUALS who earn in excess of that amount.  Therefore, your offshore, job loss, and massive flight to lower income argument does not hold water on this point.  Please cite the right-wing rag you have taken this $6 billion dollar additional tax on small business claim.  I'm not finding that in O's plan.  The tax breaks to the "lower brackets" (losing their homes, can't decide whether to get medicine or food this month, and if they are lucky, can gas their tank once a month) is addressed below.    

On the plight of the struggling rich.  Define rich, please.  From the bottom, INDIVIDUAL incomes in excess of $250,000/yr might look about right.  From the top, $5 million a year maybe (one of McC's not-so-funny jokes, some would wonder).  The 90% of the federal tax bill claim must be a typo.    Go here for 2008 info: http://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2008/04/the_rich_and_their_taxes.html. Our top 1% of filers pay 40% or tax burden.  An accurate argument would include these facts as well.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distribution_of_wealth.  In the United States at the end of 2001, 10% of the population owned 71% of the wealth, and the top 1% controlled 38%. On the other hand, the bottom 40% owned less than 1% of the nation's wealth.  Let's say that one more time.  Top 1% gets 38%, bottom 40% get less than 1%.  Since they are not earning a living wage, probably that is why they cannot afford to pay tax.  Got the picture?

There is only one reason our long suffering corporations are taking their business overseas.  Greed.  They do not want to pay their share and they get tax incentives currently for outsourcing.  Do not take us down the path of needing to address sweat shop working conditions, 7-day work weeks, $2/day wages in developing countries where US labor laws do not apply.  Greed is not a universal American value.    

There you go again.  Please try to keep this discussion in the context of McCain plans and how they are different than Bush plans.  You are spinning way out in right field without a paddle on that ridiculous statement about keeping people in lower brackets.  What in the world make you think this kind of ignorance is going to help JM/SP win the election. 

Preying on discontent, fear and division was a blatent and nauseating subtext for the RNC this entire week.  I do agree with inspecting history, and the history that is under the microscope now is Bush/Cheney and JM voting history.  Do you really want to bring up govt "borrowing."  Again, Bush is the record setter in this regard and while we are talkin' W, don't forget the Bush slash and burn policies toward our seniors.  Here's a link for you to a rather exhaustive analysis on 12 reason privatizing social security is a bad idea.  http://www.socsec.org/publications.asp?pubid=503.  You can get back to me on that one with your rebuttal.  My question would be putting WHICH people before WHICH party? 

Survey Americans on which party they associate election fraud with in the past, say, 30 years or so and tell me what you come up with.  So you forgot to mention what JM's plan is on this one.   Again, just saying no to personal attacks and steering you back on course.  JM's plan for lobbying and earmarks is what exactly.  I see O has one. 

JM hate war?  LMAO.  So what was all that military service orgie this week all about?   The entire McCain family for generations have shown to us just how much they hate war.  Where is his war prevention strategy?  Did I miss the part where he sang Give Peace a Chance?  Sam, really, do you care nothing about your own credibility or that of your candidates?  Am laughing too hard to comment further on this. 

Here's a link for you to serve as a primer on the Patriot Act controversy.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act#Controversy.  Will not address the attempts you are making to minimize the unconstitutional aspect of this legislation.  I would like an explanation as to how RNC protestors engaging in destruction of private property, vandalism, resisting arrest, disturbing the peace and such have suddenly been charged with terrorism?  The we have not been attacked yet defense does not make me feel warm and fuzzy about standing legislation that violates the constitution 9 ways to Sunday.  Far mongering does not a justification make.  O's plan demonstrates ways to tackle terrorism that do not involve trashing the constitution. 

There are many issues swirling around the separation of church and state.  Christian theocracy will be kept in the marginal fringes where they belong.  Religious principles will not be incorporated into laws that seek to remove a woman's right to control her own body.  Freedom from religion is also at stake here as are hate crime definitions that provide protection for Moslems in the US.  That is the freedom the cons overlook every time. 

The link to this video is somehow automatically rerouted to a different one so every time I cut and paste it, it goes to the other video. 

If you search for "I invented the Internet Obama" that is the correct video that I was trying to share.

S.Amdt.4170: To protect families, family farms and small businessees by extending the income tax rate structure, raising the death tax exemption to $5 million and reducing the maximum death tax rate to no more than 35%; to keep education affordable extending the college tuition deduction; and to protect senior citizens from higher taxes on their retirement income, maintain U.S. financial market competitiveness, and promote economic growth by extending the lower tax rates on dividents and capital gains.

NAY: Biden and Obama   YEA: McCalin

I.E., this is in the voting record in the public records. There are not too many voting records there for the O since he started his campaign and most of those he voted NAY or say Not Voting.

And Clinton is a serial rapist. So what is your point? sm

Posted By: Brunson on 2006-05-03,
In Reply to: Hitchens is a public and private severe alcoholic - Mind

Everyone knows that Hitchens is an alcoholic.  You are adding nothing to this conversation.  Act like an adult or leave. 

you obviously have a problem already.  Sources I've used include a direct link to the US Senate, factcheck.org (an organization that even Fox uses), going to bills/legistation directly....etc. 

long, but until you actually look at McCain's voting record, posts like this (including the one below) are nothing but opinion.

http://vetsforobama.org/

trillion but if our government continues to spend the money, I fear we may find out the hard way.  All I've heard about is how Bush doubled our deficit in 8 years.  Well, Obama has been in office not even a full month and wants to add 1 trillion dollars to it....although he continues to say 800 billion in his charismatic speeches.  I'm also so tired of the blame game.  Obama himself made sure in his speech last night at the democratic retreat (which, BTW, taxpayers helped pay for, thanks O) to mention that government is a group of people throwing out ideas and it isn't one person dictating everything.  Yet he continues to blame one person, Bush, for our crisis.  This crisis has been a long time coming people and started before Bush, although he didn't help either.  I blame government as a whole and I intend to hold both dems and pubs feet to the fire and since the dems are currently in control......they are most definitely getting more criticism from me because they are in charge at this point.  Doesn't mean I'm not keeping an eye on the pubs too cuz Lord knows there are crooks in both parties.

interesting that Obama ridiculed McCann for taxing healthcare benefits during his campaign and yet that is now something on the table Obama is considering to help fund his healthcare reform. Funny how something that was once ridiculous to him is now something okay to do and how dare we question him. 

Once again.....why aren't democrats holding Obama's feet to the fire here?  Lie after lie and broken promise after broken promise.  If anyone from any other party flip flopped and lied like this....you guys would crucify him/her.  What gives?