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I doubt you will get any real answer for this....(sm)

Posted By: Just the big bad on 2008-12-17
In Reply to: Credible sources - New Englander

Credibility of sources seems to be subjective on here.  However, my pet peeves are the ones that come out with some outrageous stuff from a writer with an obvious agenda and present that article as fact.  Jeff Rense is a good example of that.  He is not only conservative, but a nut as well. 


Another good example of this is the below post about *trickle-up poverty.*  Since she won't state her source or the meaning of the term, I decided to look it up (as MS suggested).  Seems that the phrase was coined by Michael Savage, a conservative radio talk show host.  Right now he's running third, right behind Rush and Hannity. 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Savage_(commentator)


Here's what he said -- not what I would consider credible:


"Trickle-Up" Poverty: The New
Economics of Barack Obama


The liberal media talking heads are already proclaiming that a Barack Obama victory will be revolutionary. Revolutionary is right. The last great revolution took place in Russia. Within a year of the Russian Revolution in 1917, the communist leader Lenin brought the Russians change they could believe in. He created an economic system in which:



  • All industry was nationalized and strict centralized management was introduced.
  • Obligatory labor duty was imposed onto "non-working classes" or people who had money. Food was rationed and centrally distributed.
  • Military-like control of railroads was introduced.
  • Private enterprise became illegal.

After Stalin took over the Soviet Union, he:



  • Imposed a state-run system of socialized medicine
  • Formed a strict, centralized cultural administration and ideological control system – in other words, reeducation.

There is every reason to believe that some kind of socialist revolution will occur under B.O. Bush has already imposed socialism on the banks, and Obama promises to do more of the same. The Soviets put people with money to work in factories.


Under Obama, the business owners in this country who drive the economy will be put to work by being forced to pay crushing taxes that will fund gold-plated healthcare for illegal aliens and welfare cases. Private enterprise may not actually be made illegal, but so many businesses will die under an Obama administration that the same goal will be accomplished. Instead of trickle-down economics, we’ll have trickle-up poverty.


We already know Obama will impose socialized medicine – that is a given. And reeducation will come in the form of the Fairness Doctrine, which Nancy Pelosi will push through the Congress by stressing the need to foster unity and avoid destabilizing the markets with hurtful and unbalanced commentary.This is what the future holds under B.O.


http://michaelsavage.wnd.com/?pageId=2154


 




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Get in the real world...........no doubt you're one
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No, goofy. Republicans are REAL people, real
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If the real folks, with real hope, faith, and
and for our country's future who participate here on this forum were just a tad as healthy, wealthy and wise as this poster considers herself, we probably wouldn't be sitting in front of these silly computers trying to make a living!! Can't figure why she is here other than tell us how healthy, wealthy and wise she is and we are not!
why do you answer so stupidly, the right answer
if you had any brains, would have been......

'well, she made a mistake.'

But telling me that I need a job, is so stupid, yes, stupid AND a very weak point.
I doubt it. nm

Somehow I doubt that. nm

I seriously doubt that.
Let's stick to reality here, but probably an impossible thing to ask for.
What I know without a doubt is that I don't want...
a party who accepts the kinds of things you post here anywhere near the presidency.
Somehow I doubt that very seriously........
Palin's daughter is just an easy target right now because Obama's girls aren't old enough.... on the other hand with 12 year olds having babies, I guess we won't have to wait long, huh?

I'm sorry you think you are so morally righteous that you have the right to condemn others....
I rather doubt that.

No doubt!
I often wonder how Obama can keep his cool.

It was also pathetic when McCain carried on and on during the last debate about how someone said something unpleasant about him at an Obama rally and he felt Obama didn't stick up for him.

Are you kidding me?!!?
i have no doubt... NM
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somehow I doubt that
nm
LOL...I seriously doubt that...(sm)
I tend to have that bad habit of going by facts -- not speculation.
I doubt it...
I am qualified to do other things. I do this job so that I can stay home with my kids. I could make more money elsewhere. Also, I never did say that I have easy doctors, just doctors that I am used to. I know what mushmouth things they say. I don't have medical benefits. If I needed them, I would have to do some other kind of work. I just think that it is silly to pay the auto workers more than they are worth because of unions. I understand that you are pro union and all, but there is no need to say that I will clean toilets. Come on Gourdpainter, are you having a bad day?
Oh...there is! Same ones no doubt that put him through
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No doubt.....
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I doubt it, too. (sm)

I expect to be called a bunch of names after people don't even bother to read it or watch the video.


But thank you for such a nice, civil comment.  They're hard to come by these days on this board. 


I doubt that this had anything to do with...(sm)
how much he loves his country, much less his race (yeah, you really went out on a limb on that one).  What it has to with is what he's teaching the kids.  From what I understand he directs his students to his website, which is a conservative web site.  That's where I have a problem.  We don't need to teach partisan politics in a history class, we need to teach history...the facts.
I doubt they notice.
They are too busy cheer-leading every single thing he does and trashing anyone who disagrees with them.  They seem to follow blindly, unquestioningly, and would rather not think independent thoughts.  At least that's what they've led me to believe about them.  You're absolutely right about Jimmy Carter, too.  He does wonderful work with Habitat for Humanity.  It's amazing how the group that should be the most tolerant and accepting and loving is the group that is the most ferocious, biting, hateful and angry. 
I seriously doubt that is who she had in mind. ...
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I seriously doubt your statistics.
And the truth is, the man whose article you posted has an agenda.  I don't listen to things like this from either side.  Conspiracy theories are tiresome.
I don't doubt one word you say.

Especially considering Bush's fondness of scare tactics.  I don't know if she drinks or not (I've often thought she looked, sounded and acted drunk), which makes me wonder if she might have one too many someday and spill the beans.  Either way, she doesn't seem like a very stable person.


I'm sorry about your career.  You weren't one of those CIA whistle blowers, were you?  We've all seen, through this administration at leas, that honesty in government is a big no-no, and if anyone tries to divulge their dirty tricks, they're lives are destroyed.


I doubt a lot of conservatives were there. sm
True conservatives would not have been caught dead there.  Maybe some RINOS.
I doubt you would believe it if YOU saw it. Sigh.
And just because you say it ISN'T so, doesn't make it NOT so, either. :-)
Experience....but have no doubt...
McCain/Palin will bring change with their experience. Just not the kind of social marxist change the dems want to enforce.

I have no faith in any kind of so-called change from any current member of the Democratic party.

doubt any of them have read

it either.  Probably pulled off some Fox website.  the post is not for discussion.   You are supposed to read the quotes pulled out of their  context and say to yourself, Wow, he is a black man.  He is not like me.  He scares me.  I am afraid.  I will vote for the elderly white man even if he cares not a whit about my life.  It is a basic crude, race baiting post.


 


No, he is a socialist first.........and no doubt his
It is known for a FACT that the Obama campaign has contributed over 800K dollars to ACORN, a corrupt organization committed to voter fraud with many members of ACORN indicted for those crimes and more...... you figure it out.

And pleeeze do not tell me Obama doesn't know anything about this...
I have no doubt, we have a split
board. Someone loves arguments and has a heck of a lot of time on her hands. She is never here all at one time, if you watch closely. Uses one moniker to try to sound decent, and multiple others to incite arguing. Let's try ignoring and maybe it will go away.
Sincerely doubt that
Sam was never duplicitous.

I seriously doubt it is untrue.
Emotions are running way too high, especially in the Republican rallies, and I DO watch them.  If ever there was a plant in the audience it was the black man that stood up and said, "please, sir, I'm begging you....."  Notice Mc went up and hugged him and then addressed the poor woman who was "scared" of Obama because he was a terrorist.  Anyone remember Mccain saying, "no, no maam, he's not."  Do any of you republicans ever pay attention? 
i have no doubt He is coming
than we think.
I don't doubt that he IS. Remeber he said...
start at the BOTTOM. And that is EXACTLY what he meant.
I doubt you even read it...........sm
did you? 

This person has gone to exhaustive measures and would appear to be very knowledgable in photography and computer graphics.  There is a lot of proof in this article. 
I doubt he's jesting s/m
The Bushes may hide in the bushes for awhile but they'll come out again and people will probably be dumb enough to elect Jeb.  May as well have a Clinton/Bush/Kennedy monarchy and be done with it.
I seriously doubt liberals have anything
Republicans, the party of whiners.
No doubt..........you were probably too busy
watching Pelosi jumping up and down like an idjit who escaped from the looney bin....

Even Biden and the others looked like they were sick and tired of that charade.
No doubt..........you were probably too busy
watching Pelosi jumping up and down like an idjit who escaped from the looney bin....

Even Biden and the others looked like they were sick and tired of that charade.
Doubt Your Story
Sounds like more regurgitated propaganda.

Nice try.
Doubt this story all you want...
but it happens everyday.  I'm just glad that abortion will always be legal and there isn't a darn thing you can do about it, except throw your little tantrum and stomp your feet.  Who is laughing now?  Oh, that would be all us women who believe we have choices.  All of you women who want others to choose for you, well...that's just sad!   You actually try to make a point by slamming a woman who is the victim of rape and we are supposed to believe you care about anything?  You are a miserable unhappy person who is ticked off that there are women out there who take control over their lives because that is something you couldn't and didn't do.  You are probably stuck in some miserable life wishing you could do it all over again.  How's that for being judgemental?  I do, however, feel it's true!! 
Doubt your sanity.
What a fruitcake. The sooner you pathetic losers stop trying to play the victim card and start taking responsibility for your own bodies, abortion rates will drop by 90% at least.

I don't buy the 'oooh - i was dragged into a ditch by a deranged stranger' BS - it's just cliche soap opera melodrama by someone who thought it would buy her a little street cred.

Fortunately, you couldn't be further from the truth as far as my happiness level goes. I'm downright giddy. I love my live. (Except that scam artist Obama is going to try tax my a## off because I make over 250K. That kind of peeves me.)

Maybe you were projecting your horrid little life onto me. Didn't work.

So, laughing cow, how many babies have you killed? Please, when you get to a baker's dozen, have your vagina sewn shut. Obviously you cannot handle the responsibility of procreation.
I don't doubt her story...........
I know 2 people this happened to. My SIL had an abortion. My friend chose to raise the child. They made their choices and lived with them.
Oh, no doubt of that for sure! He thinks
he's gonna "save us from ourselves" because us dumb little Americans don't know what's best for us....HE DO!!

Of course, he also knows there are plenty out there who are more than happy to have the govt do all their thinking for them and are dumb enough to actually believe that is the government's job in the first place, so he has no trouble passing his crap off to them as something good!!


I don't doubt you really are a chicken....
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No doubt, that's all he would be interested in doing.
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...and I doubt there would have been an Obama
Thank you for this pictorial.
I doubt he will be elected again.......... sm
because I doubt there will even be an election in 2012. At the rate things are going now, I can well imagine Obama invoking martial law prior to the election and making himself into a dictator. Chavez would be so proud.
I really doubt that O's speech had such
a big impact on the voters, in Lebanon and the EU, to change the outcome of the elections.
The EU voters changed to conservative, as so many poor countries were taken into the EU, and many countries were against this.
Turkey, a foremost Muslim country, is trying to get approved into the EU, causing a big controversy.
I doubt that VERY seriously!! Yawn!!!......
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if in doubt..bring up an old GT post
MT, I have never posted on the conservative board..because the responses would boil my blood.  I dont know what post you are talking about..However, reading these posts this morning, one of your conservative *friends* posted about hoarding to American Woman, how she hoards information and then blasts away with old information from old posts..I have to tell ya, I laughed at that post cause, OMG, you guys, from the conservative board, have done nothing but bring up old posts that either I have posted or have been attributed to me, over and over and over and over and over and over..**If it doubt with nothing to say, bring up an old GT post**,
You have no credibility. I doubt the veracity of everything you say.
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