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I don't support all the policies

Posted By: American Girl on 2005-06-25
In Reply to: No need to confuse - Zauber

coming from this administration.   Do I think Bush is a good president, yes!   Do I think he's great?  No, because, personally, he's not been conservative enough for me. To me, Ronald Reagan was great.  He was tough, but he still made people like him.   Bush not been tough enough on some issues.....however, that's never here or there.  I have always freely said that I don't agree with everything coming from the Republican party.  I'm a conservative first, Republican second, but as the days go on I am becoming more and more a Libertarian.  I will still vote Republican, because I think that's where my vote has the most value, but if the Libertarian movement becomes more of a contender, believe me, I'm going to catch that wave.  


I said all that to say this.....I never generalized when it came to Democrats when it came to Clinton in office, because, being from the South where there are still a lot of old Southern Democrats (and, gasp, I was one for several years believe it or not...) I knew all Democrats did not stand behind some of the Clinton policies.  There were some Clinton policies I did like, although as a presidential role model he drug the office of president through the mud.....


To me it seems that liberals are all or nothing in hating Bush, but if there are some liberals out that who like Bush speak up and prove that generalization wrong 




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    “I did not vote for the man,” Mr. Clodfelter said, “but the way he talks to you, you can’t help but believe in him. He left me with a very positive feeling that he’s going to get this done right.”
    Dear Miss Thang. If you dont like it, dont watch.
    nm
    rational to one is irrational to another..dont like it, dont read it
    Rational posts?  Well, maybe you would think that, however, I disagree..but, what the heck, from your continual posts attacking me over the past few months, it is obvious that we dont agree on anything.  Gotta tell ya, no one chases a person from a chat board..that is a lame excuse for someone who obviously was not able to hold his/her own with the smart liberals who post on this  liberal board.  So gt chased her/him away.  On please!  If a poster is getting to you, you just ignore their posts..dont click on them..Viola!  It is that easy!  Or dont come on the liberal board if you do not like liberal ideology!  Viola!  It is that easy!  So, Im here all the time am I?  Well, punkin, I see your handle always on both this board and the dinosaur board..er..I mean conservative board.  Is this what your debating has gotten down to?  Lets count and see who is here more often?  How ridiculous, how childish, how so....republican.  **BIG HUG**
    I dont hate Obama. I just dont see him as qualified
    nm
    You dont get it. Most dont want O to fail, they feel
    nm
    his policies are most

    definitely in the race as McCain agrees with his polices over 90% and has announced to plan to change any of those policies.


     


     


     


    It is not failed policies.
    You can promote those programs, but in this culture, sex-saturated media, desensitization to the point of sex is just an expression and you don't even have to like each other, multiple partners, the whole 9 yards. No program is going to work at this point. Birth control information is out there. How, in this culture, could you even say abstinence with a straight face? Doesn't mean I don't think it should be mentioned, because if it causes 1 or 2 kids not to engage in premarital sex, much better. Most social programs are failed policies...and a huge waste and drain on the government. That is one thing I like about both candidates...they say they will get rid of the social programs that don't work. Trouble is...they never identify which programs. lol.
    O needs no defense on this or his policies.
    for me to know and for you to find out after the landslide in T-minus 24 and O's inauguration in January.

    I know my candidate, my party and their platform. I am very comfortable with my choice. Since there is no party radical enough to suit you, and since you know so much, why don't you establish your own? How about the Nazican party? Has kind of a catchy ring to it, don't you think?
    yes, you demonstrate liberal policies.

    Making up stories, defending terrorists, hating America.  You must be proud.


    And you demonstrate neocon policies.

    Lying and attacking and personal insults.  You can't defend the issues because your theory is indefensible.


    Again, this is the liberal board.  We're not here to please you.


    SP's energy policies demonstrate

    1.  Sarah's socialism is fine and dandy for Alaska:  "...and Alaska - we're set up, UNLIKE other states in the union, where it's collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we SHARE THE WEALTH when the development of these resources occurs"... boasting to a reporter of having been able to send a check for $1,200 to every man, woman and child in the state since, "Alaska is sometimes described as America's socialist state, because of its collective ownership of resources.”


    2.  She agrees with Obama's windfall profits concept...a windfall profit, by any other name, is...well, a windfall profit.


    3.  Sarah is a hypocrite.


    4.  Sarah can articulate the shrub's oil policies even more precisely that her running mate. 


     


    Yes, but he is comparing policies and emphasizing
    words straight from McC's mouth and infinitely verifiable upon inspection of his record. Obama is NOT indulging himself in a character assassinating, fear-mongering, cultural warring free-for-all. People DO notice the difference, you know...at least, some of them anyway.
    after 8 years of failed policies...
    I don't see how Obama could possibly do any harm. Bush has just officially been rated the 36th out of 42 presidents by a nonpartisan board of scholars.

    Obama has his work cut out for him to clean up the mess that the republican president, senate and house created over the last 8-12 years.
    Since there are no jobs.......policies will at least temporarily.

    have to change. Quite frankly, I'd rather feed a family than endure/survive a home invasion. We haven't even SEEN the outcome of this economic crisis. When people are hungry, they steal. When people have nowhere to live, they steal. They steal in order to survive. In order to avoid massive civil unrest - these people need a safety net. My husband is laid off and he is a professional. I pray we don't have to resort to eating out of dumpsters in order to survive. And don't think for a minute you are immune.


    I too want Obama's policies to fail. If anyone...
    listened to the whole interview with Rush they would understand what he was talking about. Don't want the country to fail, which is happening right now before our very eyes.
    you should update yourself on foreign policies
    He most certainly does NOT know what he is doing.
    O's votes support his claims. JM's votes support Bush.
    Believe what you like. Voting records tell the tale. Could use a few more details on that budget. Just what programs will he slash and and how many tax dollars will be directed away from middle class and in the direction of the rich? How much longer can the infrastructure afford to crumble?

    JM adopted O's withdrawal plan when he saw how well it went over with the public in an election year. He flipped on the war once. What's to stop him from flipping again once elected? The nation is war weary. Some prefer a surge in diplomacy, not military answers to diplomatic failures. Ask the Iraqis who have lost more than 100,000 among them how sucessful the war has been. Obama has always understood that the OBL/Taliban live in Afganistan, not Iraq. JM, a little slow on the draw there.

    I see nothing in JMs platform that backs his claims about transparency. I see specific plan on the O side under technology initiatives, continued initiatives which originated under Clinton and were reversed during the undercover Bush administration. Pork barrel spending for pubs means something different than it does to dems. Slash the poor to give to the rich? Hard seel in the current economic frefall. Also find nothing in JM's plan to address runaway contract corruption in Iraq. Having Halliburton and companies there props up those struggling American corporations. Show me the plan.

    Antiglobal/antidiplomacy. No surprise there. This is about the futureworld, not American imperial delusions of grandeur. So much data on the drilling scam being an immediate relief for gas problems out there it is not worth addressing. Can you say T-Bone Pickens, i.e., we can't drill our way out of this one. He should know. Been an oil man all his life.

    Since these are just a few, what else do you have up your sleeve?
    I dont WANT war. Dont judge me!
    nm
    and Obama was talking about McCain's policies
    What's the difference? Because she used the word Lipstick in her speech, it was about her. That's quite a leap. Give me a break.
    So untrue and so unfair. Disagree with his policies,
    nm
    What "Natl Security Policies"? THIS administration
    nm
    If there already exist specific written policies

    pertaining to personal workspace adornment (size, number and/or appropriateness of photographs, posters, banners, political content, sports memorabilia, etc.) then I would agree with you.  If you don't like the policy, don't work there.  Your office is not your personal gallery.


    If the company doesn't want somebody hanging up a Soviet flag, then they're probably going to have to prohibit Old Glory as well.


    However, if this is a policy formulated on the spur of the moment to appease a complainer, then I disagree.  What's next?  An Ohio State fan complaining about a Michigan pennant in the next cubicle?)  Nor do I agree that new policies should be formulated after the fact to deal with an existing situation just because nobody foresaw it.  If it's an important issue, then a rule should already cover it. 


    If this is a public area (waiting room/reception area) then I am sure the company must have had the foresight to write a standard regarding decor, since all visitors will see this.  In my opinion, if it ain't covered in that policy, it should be okay.


    Interesting that people voluntarily come to this country, going to considerable effort to get here, then so easily become offended and need special accommodations.  What is it they don't understand about "liberty"?  If an American coworker complained about the Ugandan flag in a neighboring workspace, there would be h*ll to pay!  Disciplinary action against the complainer.  Law suits!  ACLU involvement!   Paid leave  and free counseling for the Ugandan employee to get over the trauma of the event!


    U.S. Spies on Americans who disagree with Bush policies









    I guess this explains who Bush's real enemies are, and it has nothing to do with terrorism (unless you're the innocent American being targeted).


    Posted on Fri, Jan. 20, 2006


    U.S. accused of spying on those who disagree with Bush policies


    South Florida Sun-Sentinel

    While the White House defended domestic surveillance as a safeguard against terrorism, a Florida peace activist and several Democrats in Congress accused the Bush administration on Friday of spying on Americans who disagree with President Bush's policies.

    Richard Hersh, of Boca Raton, Fla., director of Truth Project Inc. of Palm Beach County, told an ad hoc panel of House Democrats that his group and others in South Florida have been infiltrated and spied upon despite having no connections to terrorists.


    Agents rummaged through the trash, snooped into e-mails, packed Web sites and listened in on phone conversations, Hersh charged. We know that address books and activist meeting lists have disappeared.


    The Truth Project gained national attention when NBC News reported last month that it was described as a credible threat in a database of suspicious activity compiled by the Pentagon's Talon program. The listing cited the group's gathering a year ago at a Quaker meeting house in Lake Worth, Fla., to talk about ways to counter military recruitment at high schools.


    Talon is separate from the controversial domestic-surveillance program conducted by the National Security Agency. Bush has acknowledged signing orders that allow the NSA to eavesdrop without the usual court warrants, prompting an outcry from many in Congress.


    Bush plans to tour the NSA on Wednesday as part of a campaign to defend his handling of the program.


    This is a critical tool that helps us save lives and prevent attacks, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said on Friday. It is limited and targeted to al-Qaida communications, with the focus being on detection and prevention.


    The Defense Department's Talon program collects data from a wide variety of sources, including military personnel and private citizens, Pentagon spokesman Greg Hicks said.


    They are unfiltered dots of information about perceived threats, Hicks said. An analyst will look at that information. And what we are trying to do is connect the dots before the next major attack.


    To Hersh and some members of Congress, the warrant-less surveillance and Talon are all a part of domestic-spying operations that threaten civil liberties of average Americans and put dissenters under a cloud of suspicion.


    Neither you nor anybody in that (Quaker) church had anything to do with terrorism, said Rep. Robert Wexler, D-Fla. The fact is, the Truth Project may have a philosophy that is adverse to the political philosophy and goals of the president of the United States. And as a result of that different philosophy, the president and the secretary of defense ordered that your group be spied upon.


    There should not be a single American who today remains confident that it couldn't happen to them.









    Fpolicy, HLSecurity, WarPeace SP=8 Obama 136 policies
    nm
    Ashes are all that's left of the shrub's scorched earth policies.
    only after a platform transplant and some really new blood to resolve heir leadership crisis.
    Yeah and Bush's policies got us in a fine mess didn't they?

    proposed tax policies which include granting rebates to most US workers.

    That statement jumped out at me.


     


    aThis post is in violation of Rapture Ready's policies.
    You are in violation of Rapture Ready's polices by posting a link to their message board on this forum. The following is a direct quote from their terms of service.

    "No posts or links from other message boards, forums, or political and religious blogs on this site or posting messages here on other message boards, forums, or political and religious blogs."
    Fact Based or Faith Based Policies...sm
    Click watch video in the link.

    Most impressive statement is how the Bush administration has gotten away from fact based policy making.
    And who would u support?
    Is this Tara again?
    I don't support HRC but......she has won the
    That means, for the people that actually turn out to vote, she has gotten their votes, which is what a democracy is all about. Delegates are not constitutional in the first place....they were illegally put in place to supposedly keep one state from taking over the voting process; however, super delegates are completely illegal and have absolute conflict of interest.

    So, Obama has NOT won the popular vote.....HRC has. I don't care for either of them, but looking at Obama's bedfellows, it's quite clear where his thoughts really lie and I certainly don't want anyone like that running my country. We are taxed enough without representation of those taxes and he has made it quite clear, all he wants to do is RAISE taxes and GIVE TO THE POOR. Pleeeeeze, we have so many social programs in my county alone, it's pathetic. THe ones geared towards children are not working, Headstart is just a babysitter for a bunch of teenage moms (in my city) who sit all day, DO NOT work, and are so lazy, they can't even get off their butts and walk their 3 year old out the Headstart bus that picks their children up curbside. Stand at the door in their PJ's, kids aren't even dressed when the bus comes, and the lady has to get off the bus and stand hollering for them to come on NOW. It's sickening to watch. And, Obama wants more of that? How about calling it what it is.......children who aren't learning in school are not learning because they go home to sloppy lazy parents, some no parents at all, living with whoever they're push off on, and homework is the last thing considered important. The only meal most get is at HeadStart OR free lunches at school. Until Obama wants to call it what it is and stop blaming the education system, then he's no better than any other candidate who just likes to point fingers instead of getting a backbone and say what the problem really is......NO parents, drunk parents, doped up parents.....the list goes on and on......
    They support NRA
    so you can hunt and so you can defend yourself if someone tries to hurt you.  It is called self defense.  Killing an innocent child isn't self defense....it is called murder and it is also selfish.  I just don't understand why some of you people would rather save a rapists and murders life and you don't believe in the death penalty for criminals but you have no problem ending the life of an innocent child who has done nothing wrong and has no choice in the matter. 
    I support what we need to do -
    I do not say I am against war in general - I am against a war that should never have been! I do not want to send my son to die based on lies and deceit.

    And yes we have schools in this country - but they are all underfunded and could use a lot of that money we are putting into building Iraqi schools...

    We have programs to feed our hungry - but not enough to cover all the hungry or needy!

    I just do not think we should be putting our resources into other countries when our country is so in need. Not only our financial resources, but our human resources (our soldiers).
    What does that mean.......if we all support?
    It is not the job of my country to support or supply contraceptives to anyone outside this country. If those countries want to stop their pregnancies, they will have to figure that out for themselves, not with my dollars.

    Maybe start by sterilization? Not our job to "support" any country monetarily to take care of their population of obviously unwanted births. Yes, I will verbally support they stop the reason for the pregnancies in the first place, but I do not agree to my having to pay for it.

    That's their problem!
    We should support him? Not if we do not like
    That is like saying Hail to Hitler because WE HAVE TOO, even though we all know how he turned out. I am not saying O is like that, but gee whiz, I WILL NOT SUPPORT HIM OR GOVERNMENT if I do not like what they are doing and so far, I DO NOT. In fact, give my money back from the last bailout and I REFUSE FOR MY MONEY GOING TO NEW FURNITURE IN AN OFFICE, MONEY FOR PRODUCERS TO MAKE MOVIES THAT SOME FRANKLY SUCK AND SO ON.

    Sorry, just irritated with our government who frankly SUCK AT THEIR JOB!
    I don't have to support anything I don't believe in...

    and I believe we got shanghied into another Vietnam. Sadam Hussein was a vicious dictator, but he kept the lid on that boiling pot. Who supplied him with arms and training in the first place? I have family who served in desert storm and were recycled through this cluster and I still don't support it. Army suicides are at an all-time high, why? Because they believe in what they are doing? It's a crushing shame how our troops have been treated. And that's all I have to say about that.


    You don't have to support anything you don't believe in....
    We already have to protect ourselves - my uncle's house was broken into the other day, someone else in the community was broken into and their pet dog was stomped to death. I saw on the news a group of 4 armed men attempting to break into a home and the homeowner saw them and had fast access to a weapon and a firefight broke out. You haven't seen nuthin' yet. Wait till the food pantries empty out.........everybody better be armed and dangerous and don't ever fool yourself into believing our country isn't already occupied by terrorists - because it is. I will fight to the death (already have cancer, might as well go out with style instead of in a diaper).
    Again with no pub support....(sm)
    If this thing works, those pubs need to start grabbing thier ankles.
    Right now I don't support any
    politicans because they all suck, IMO.  I did not vote for Obama and I don't support him or our congress.  I don't like him giving Nancy Pelosi free reign to right spending bills.  I don't like Obama turning healthcare reform over to congress to write.  I just do not see things out of Obama that makes me feel positive about the direction our country is heading. 
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    support of Kyoto

    The European Union and Canada have signed.  There are northeastern states that have created an initiative which would cap emissions and put pressure on the federal govt to support Kyoto.  New York is one of them, Maine is another.  There are also cities and other states that support Kyoto.  Los Angeles is one of them, so is Utah, Texas, Seattle.  I think altogether there is about 160 cities and states supporting the Kyoto protocol.


    Can you provide support for this
    All the research I have seen says that ectopic pregnancies cannot survive, that an embryo must be in the uterus to thrive. I would love to see some support/back up of this if you have any (I am honestly curious, not trying to be difficult!)

    Thanks.
    I didn't think I could support him more!

    But after watching him take the bunch of rotten lemons he was tossed and seeing him transform them into delicious, healthy lemonade, he even surprised me! 


    Show our support

    A friend sent this to me........ but like she said, please don't do this!  It's just all in good fun....


    Show Your Support 


     

        There are less than eight months until the election, an election that will decide the next President of the United States. The person elected will be the president of all Americans, not just the Democrats or the Republicans. To show our solidarity as Americans, let's all get together and show each other our support for the candidate of our choice.










    It's time that we all came together, Democrats and Republicans alike.



     


    If you support the policies and character of John McCain, please drive with your headlights on during the day.
     If you support Obama or Hillary, please drive with your headlights off at night.














     


    I Support Obama

    I'm for Obama in my words and deeds.  I'm 58 years old and this is the first time that I've actively participated in a campaign.  I always vote in presidential elections, but in the past it has been for the most part a perfunctory action.  This campaign though, I feel that I'm an important cog in the wheel that can turn our nation in a better, more fair, more uplifting direction.   This is the first time I have ever donated my hard earned money to a campaign.  I have been sending $25 a month to the Obama campaign since January.  It's not much, but I find it empowering to know that by combining my little bit with thousands of other like-minded individuals' "little bits" to support a candidate who cares about those of us who are not rich and priviledged, we might be able to get our concerns addressed in the halls of power.


    Yes, I know that the president does not run this country by himself, but I am hopeful that an intelligent man of integrity such as Senator Obama will be able to figure out how to persuade those in power to work with him in our interest.


    I have read both of Senator Obama's books and I am convinced of his honesty, integrity and intelligence.  I have read the information available on his website http://www.barackobama.com.  I am especially impressed with his common sense ideas about simplifying and making our income tax system more equitable.


    Also, his ideas for making insurance coverage affordable for all Americans makes a lot of sense to me.


    I am convinced that the only voters who do not support Obama must be the ones who have not taken the time to get to know this amazing man. 


     


    Not hardly. I am glad for her support....
    but unlike the rest of you, I do not post to support myself. I do have the courage of my convictions and all the bullying and badmouthing you all throw my way only makes me more determined. So pile it on, bullies, pile it on. apparently that is what you need to feel empowered and relevant. Go ahead, knock your socks off. If you are raggin on me you are letting someone else rest.


    only 24% of us support the bailout
    Yesterday it was reported only 24% of Americans support the bailout, 56% are opposed so 20% have no opinion. Senators' and reps' offices were flooded with calls and emails all day asking that the bailout be opposed. And I was one of those. Everyone should be contacting their own reps to express their opinions. That's they only way they will know what the people want.
    Show our support
    Show your support.  The person elected will be the president of all Americans, not just the Democrats or the Republicans.  So: To show our solidarity as Americans, let's all get together and show our support for the candidate of our choice.  It's time that we 
    all came together, Democrats and Republicans alike and let our candidates know we are behind them. 

     So, until the election, if you support the policies and character of Barack Obama,  please drive with your headlights on during the day.   If you support  John McCain, please drive with your headlights off at 
    night.  

     

    Thank you for your participation in this  patriotic endeavor!  Let's let our candidates know we are behind them.

    Can you support this with some facts or is this your take on it?
    From what I read if it did not pass there would not be credit to buy ANYTHING, and if small businesses' credit lines dry up, even more job losses. Is there something that leads you to believe that would not happen if the bill was not passed? I don't want to fight, just want to get the facts.
    Encouragement and support???.
    that sounds nice and comfy, but you sure can't deposit that in the bank.
    You are right I did not know but I am not apologizing....I am saying we should not support him (sm)
    That is amazing that in this country we do not even realize that there were so many Irish slaves. But I did know that slavery has gone on practically forever and has involved all races. You missed my entire point. My point was that we do NOT deserve to be punished now for what people did in the past and that it is unfair for others to be prejudiced against anyone of any race, including Obama and his church being prejudiced against whites.