I don't see how it can affect her ability to read questions and sit and listen to answers - nm
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Listen, this IS going to affect us, too. Watch as the...sm
tax rates are raised by end of the year that will affect all paying taxpayers on next year's returns! Unfortunately we are ALL going to feel this, in spite of that "generous" $13.00 that we will supposedly see on our checks.
Answers to your questions.
Why would I not want you to post here anymore?
I'm happy now and was happy prior to this also. Why do you ask?
Answers to rhetorical questions...
You keep saying you guys... again lumping a group of people together which you keep telling ME not to do...
My comment about Lurker was made because you invoke her to beat me over the head with. I did not say you were or were not her *equal.* I did not use that word. I said you were not in her league. What I meant by that is that Lurker, even when angry, makes a clear and concise post, devoid of things like you are delusional, you make me feel defecated upon, to name a few. She makes her point and moves on. She does not engage in derogatory diatribes and post things like they are disturbing in their being out of touch with reality and accusations and they waste my time. In other words, she is not hateful. In other words, you are not in her league, as I stated. Merely an OBSERVATION.
And ignoring posters who ask intelligent questions (below) because you don't know the answers
and more on Vince Foster...answers to some of your questions ala Ken Starr...
CLINTON’S LAST PHONE CALL TO FOSTER
All these inconsistencies in the Foster cover-up involve Bill Clinton’s conflicting versions of his final conversation with Foster. When first asked, Clinton said he couldn’t remember when he last spoke with Foster or what was discussed.
Number 1 version:
Date of call: Unknown
Purpose of call: Unknown
When he was asked a second time he claimed he spoke with Foster Sunday night, 2 days before his death.
Number 2 version:
Date of call: Sunday, July 18
Purpose of call: Invite Foster to movie
Clinton redrafted his story a third time, changing the date of his call to Monday, the night before Foster’s death. According to Time Magazine, at this point Clinton still maintained he was unaware of Foster’s depression.
Number 3 version:
Date of call: Monday, July 19
Purpose of call: Invite Foster to movie
When the White House Press Office announced depression as the reason behind Foster’s suicide, Clinton then redrafted a 4th version claiming the purpose of this call was to cheer up his friend.
Number 4 version:
Date of call: Monday, July 19
Purpose of call: To cheer up Foster
The question becomes, not if Clinton lied, but why he lied.
Excerpt Below: The Secret Life of Bill Clinton - Ambrose Evans-Pritchard:
I once asked a gathering of thirty Washington journalists what they considered to be the most compelling evidence that Vincent Foster committed suicide. There was a brief silence, then somebody said: ‘Well, he was depressed.’
It was a very good answer. The depression is all they have, and by ‘they’ I mean Fiske, Starr, the Justice Department, the White House, The Washington Post, the governing class. Take that away, and there is nothing left to sustain the ruling of suicide. Nothing.
‘Pontius Pilate of the Potomac’ –is how Starr was described in a blistering denunciation by James Davidson, the editor of the newsletter Strategic Investment. ‘Starr will fade, but he will not be forgotten. Historians will certainly have something to say about him. ‘When The Decline and Fall of the United States’ is written, Starr will merit a chapter. He will be seen as a weak, temporizing man who lacked the force of character to confront a corrupt system.’
Listen with an open mind, ask questions, learn. nm
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According to who you listen to or read or watch, this is what they say...
Supposedly his pregnant and unwed mother went to Kenya to follow his "deadbeat" (at least that is what the stories call him) dad. She then wanted to come home but the airlines would not let her because she was due any day. Bottom line...she had Obama in Kenya, flew back to Hawaii, and filed a birth certificate stating he had been born in Hawaii, not Kenya. THere is a whole lot more to the story, but that is about it in a nutshell.
A lawyer in PA brought suit against him to show us his "real" birth certificate. I don't know where that stands now.
I am sure you could Google it and find almost anything you want about it.
I agree. How many people listen to sound bites, read just the headlines, or
listen to the partisan radio/TV personalities, and then go out and make up their minds. It only takes 10 minutes to visit a candidate's website and read their campaign platform. People need to stop expecting to be spoonfed information and take some initiative in this process.
I heard someone condemning Senator Obama's speech yesterday. He was simply repeating as fact something a conservative media personality had said. This person had not listened to the speech nor read a transcript of it. He had simply let someone else make up his mind for him.
I'd like to see demonstrated ability to change
I really don't think much will change, no matter who the POTUS, when I see the way people treat each other with such utter lack of disrespect as human beings. And I mean this all over, not just in the political arena or here on this board. First major snag and even the ever-so-highly regarded Barack will be to blame and butt of all jokes just like every other president.
But we are losing our ability to choose every day.
Can't have a fast food place in low income neighborhoods in California anymore because someone has decided because people have low incomes, they obviously can't make their own choices.
Can't have trans fat because someone has decided we can't decide for ourselves what those are.
Businessowners can no longer decide to allow smoking in their bars where majority of patrons are smokers in many places because someone else has decided it's for the greater good if they don't.
I could go on. It isn't Democrat or Republican, it's WE THE PEOPLE allowing these things to happen, allowing ourselves to be duped by studies, doctors, and scientists who think they know what is best for everyone and that we aren't capable of making choices on our own. If we don't stop it in its tracks, it won't matter which party or who is in office. It will continue to spin out of control until we no longer have the choices of which you speak! But in order to make any difference, we have to be united and stop turning on each other.
We can and do affect this planet.
While I agree that we can't exactly know how much we have to do with changing cycles on the planet, there is simply NO doubt that we have had a profound impact upon it. Even when I was a kid there were springs we could drink from and rivers we could swim in without fear of chemical burns. The fields were loaded with turtles and other creatures, every pond and creek was alive wtih frogs and tadpoles and fish. Ask your grandparents what they remember the countryside being like before the supreme arrogance of corporate policy poisoned every water source we have. There was a time that tuna fish didn't have mercury in it. On and on. Don't dismiss the concern many have over the impact we DO have on our planet as arrogance - we are certainly having a BAD BAD impact globally.
And true, not just us. However, America along with other industrialized nations and bankers is certainly complicit in the globalization movement (i.e., move into other lands, usurp the resouces from the native people, give them toxic sludge for their crops as a sort of side joke, suck out all their groundwater, make the corporations richer). We certainly don't stand against it politically or financially.
While the planet may survive the sweeping changes its most prolific environment-altering parasites inflict upon it, we probably will not. Just look at Mars if you don't think a planet can die. Regardless of why, it's certainly dead enough. So are we going to wait to be shaken off like pesky fleas - or are we going to make some effort to SUSTAIN our world and keep it in balance rather than continuously insulting it to the point where we DESERVE to be exterminated? Some of us don't have a deep-seated death wish. Some of us don't think money is more important than good living. Some of us are actually fond of this planet. Excuse US for thinking of it that way.
So how would this plan affect you?
If it doesn't apply to you, then nothing about your mortgage would change. How is that unfair to you? Would it be more fair to charge the taxpayers, including you, whether in you're arrears or not or owning a mortgage or not, the $700 billion dollars?
I don't get what about this is upsetting to you. You already have a better rate and your credit must be great. Any resolution to this problem should not result in someone making out better than before the problem started.
It does affect your paycheck...
Gays marrying gives them the same benefits and tax breaks as married couples. That means they can be insured through each other's workplace at the subsidized rates, which of course will affect how much employers subsidize you insurance. It also gives them married tax breaks and social security status. So, gay marriage does inadvertently affect your paycheck in a roundabout way.
How does this affect me personally?
AIG is losing more and more money every day... we all know that. My story is that my BF is on Worker's Comp for an injury. He will never be back to what he was, but is as good as he is going to get until he can have a knee replacement, which they will not because of his young age. So we are thinking it is time to settle with the insurance company - who is backed by AIG...
They are already offering us a lot less than what we expected because they say they don't have money to give, but what happens if we hold out and then the company goes belly up? Do we just lose out completely then?
Can WC go belly up? I mean, is it backed by the government since it is mandated by the government and he will keep getting his benefits if he does not settle or are we looking at maybe losing even his weekly check and medical benefits and so we need to take what we can get while we can? 
I don't recall saying I was right or left for that matter. What happened to your ability to sm
consider that and not label?
In that case, I am truly impressed by her ability to get her nose up her own buttocks!
Maybe being a contortionist is her true calling in life!
If you lose your ability to work, you're gonna need it
This plan is not going to affect this debt
growth rate at all, it will continue to grow on a daily basis. This stimulus package will just be added to the total debt. And, actually we do NOT KNOW THAT THIS MONEY WILL BENEFIT people. At this point, we can only pray that it will, we have no other choice. Time will tell.
And you don't even have the ability to recognize one of your posts coming back to smack you in the
I like #5. I have heard another survivor trait is the ability to quickly adapt. nm
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Well, then you're lucky! Maybe it doesn't affect
nm
Roberts: Iraq Will Affect Future War Votes
Fool me once, shame on you....etc.
I feel better knowing Congress is smart enough to not believe BU_ _ SH _ _ twice from this farce of a president.
Roberts: Iraq Will Affect Future War Votes
Experience With Faulty Data Has Made Senators More Wary, Panel Chairman Says
By Walter Pincus
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, November 14, 2005; A04
The Republican chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence said yesterday that one lesson of the faulty prewar intelligence on Iraq is that senators would take a hard look at intelligence before voting to go to war.
I think a lot of us would really stop and think a moment before we would ever vote for war or to go and take military action, Sen. Pat Roberts (Kan.) said on Fox News Sunday.
We don't accept this intelligence at face value anymore, he added. We get into preemptive oversight and do digging in regards to our hard targets.
He said that agreement has been reached on the Phase 2 review that the intelligence panel is doing to look into whether the Bush administration exaggerated or misused prewar intelligence. The review may not be finished this year, he said.
The intelligence panel vice chairman, Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.), also appearing on Fox, called the review absolutely useful because if it is the fact that they [the Bush administration] created intelligence or shaped intelligence in order to bring American opinion along to support them in going to war, that's a really bad thing -- it should not ever be repeated.
Appearing on CNN's Late Edition, national security adviser Stephen J. Hadley said the White House is supporting the study, adding: I think that what you're going to find is that the statements by the administration had backing at the time from accepted intelligence sources.
He said that when administration statements turned out to be wrong, that was because the underlying intelligence was not true, but that's not the same as manipulating intelligence, and that is not misleading the American people.
Sen. Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.), appearing with Roberts on Late Edition, said that Iraq became the center of terrorism after the March 2003 invasion.
I'm afraid we're going to see Iraq is not only the center of the war on terror, which it was not before we attacked Iraq, but now it is going to, I'm afraid, export it.
He added that Iraq has become the heartland of terrorism. It was not before we attacked.
Levin, a member of both the Senate intelligence committee and Armed Services Committee, has been a leading critic of the Bush administration's handling of the war.
Levin also said that the United States must get allies, as many as we can, including in the Muslim world because this is a form of fanatic Islam which has to be defeated by the moderate Islamic people.
In a column in yesterday's Washington Post, former senator John Edwards (N.C.), the Democratic vice presidential candidate in 2004, said the failures of the Bush administration turned Iraq into a far greater threat than it ever was. It is now a haven for terrorists [and] has made fighting the global war on terrorist organizations more difficult rather than less.
The president and his senior aides have said since before the invasion that Washington went to war primarily because Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and was a threat to the United States and its neighbors because of his connection to terrorists. Once fighting began, they argued that Iraq was the central front in the battle against terrorism.
In his Veterans Day speech on Friday, the president turned his original argument around, saying, The terrorists regard Iraq as the central front in their war against humanity, and therefore, We must recognize Iraq as the central front in our war against the terrorists.
G. Gordon Liddy says he hopes Sotomayor menstruation doesn't affect judgment
A major conservative radio host, G. Gordon Liddy, attacked President Obama's Supreme Court nominee Thursday in perhaps one of the most grotesque politically-oriented tirades in recent times.
"Let’s hope that the key conferences aren’t when she’s menstruating or something, or just before she’s going to menstruate," Liddy said. "That would really be bad. Lord knows what we would get then."
Liddy is no stranger to controversy -- in fact, he spent four years in jail for his role in the Nixon-era Watergate burglaries. His radio show is syndicated in 160 markets and on the Sirius Radio network.
Liddy also attacked Sotomayor for her affiliation with LA Raza, a Hispanic civil rights group (which was also maligned Thursday by former GOP Rep. Tom Tancredo, who called it the Latino KKK). Liddy referred to the Spanish language as "illegal alien."
"I understand that they found out today that Miss Sotomayor is a member of La Raza, which means in illegal alien, 'the race,'" Liddy quipped. "And that should not surprise anyone because she’s already on record with a number of racist comments."
"And everybody is cheering because Hispanics and females have been, quote, underrepresented, unquote," Liddy added later. "And as you pointed out, which I thought was quite insightful, the Supreme Court is not designed to be and should not be a representative body."
The comments were noted by the blog ThinkProgress. Audio of Liddy's comments follow.
The following audio is The G. Gordon Liddy Show , broadcast on May 28, 2009.
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I can't answer for the president, because I cannot read his mind. I don't know what he would do if these two came to him.
BTW, Billy Graham's grandson (Franklin Graham's son) is serving in Iraq right now, and the ministry as a whole is doing a program called "Operation Bless Our Troops"
...and to answer your second question (which I think I did in the first post, but anyway) for personal reasons I'm not going to Iraq to rebuild.
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he was independent and employee depending on who he worked for. also we live near many large cities, including Cleveland, Ohio, Akron, Alliance. He has gone out of state looking for trim carpenter work also. Things are slow to nothing.
my answers
What do you personally do to help in your community? - Volunteer in school, church.
What do faith do you have? - Christian
Do you have a mortage and what is the status? Been able to make payments on time, behind, lost your home? Yes, have been behind in the past, but am caught up now.
Do you have health insurance? If not, why? We don't but our children do, thanks to Child Health Plus. We just cannot afford it. We are small business owners. I am probably going back to teaching so I can get insurance for us.
Do you have young children?
Were you for the bailout? Heck no.
Do you have money invested in stocks? Have you/are you going to cash it in? 401K in Mutual funds, letting it ride for now.
Think we should bring our troops back? Heck yeah.
Now, who do you think you will vote for? Obama/Biden
My answers
What do you personally do to help in your community?
-I work with the youth group at our church and as a church we do community outreach such as having dinners for families, community cleanup day, etc. Our church is in one of the poorest parts of town and the kids there are socially and financially disadvantaged, which I think is why my heart goes out to them so much, I grew up the same way. Other than that I sit at my computer all day and work and stay out of the community like a hermit! :)
What do faith do you have?
-I believe Jesus is the only way to Heaven and he died for our sins and rose again. I believe that no amount of good works can get you in.
Do you have a mortage and what is the status? Been able to make payments on time, behind, lost your home?
-Yes, we have a fixed rate mortgage. So far we can make payments fine, although we have had to sacrifice things in order to make those payments before such as new tires, cable tv, etc., but for the most part we do okay now by being "frugal" lol.
Do you have health insurance? If not, why?
-No. We can't afford it. Neither of us is offered insurance through our company (well until recently, my company is considering offering it.) Our last estimated cost would be $350 a month for decent coverage.
Do you have young children?
- nope, we are waiting until we have a decent savings and health insurance.
Were you for the bailout?
- nope. I think they could have been a lot smarter about that. It really makes me sick that they were having spa treatments the other day. I sure wish I could go to a friggin spa on bailout money!
Do you have money invested in stocks? Have you/are you going to cash it in?
-nope. I had thought about it awhile back but now I'm glad we didn't!
Think we should bring our troops back?
- I would like for them to come back, but I think we need to be smart about it. If we pull out tomorrow we need to look at the repercussions of doing so. But I think it's time to start to tie up our loose ends and come home, focus on things here for awhile.
Now, who do you think you will vote for?
-If I knew that writing in someone would make a difference, but because it won't, I'll be voting for Mccain, because I don't agree with Obama. I don't necessarily think things will be better with Mccain, but Obama and I disagree on issues, therefore I won't vote for him. Simple as that.
my answers
What do you personally do to help in your community? Lions Club, PTO, close-knit community so we personally help each other when something bad happens.
What do faith do you have? Christian
Do you have a mortage and what is the status? Been able to make payments on time, behind, lost your home? Building a new house, so just starting a mortgage. Never had a problem with our mortgage before, but now who knows. We were really hoping to lock into a good rate when our house was finished, but that may not happen now.
Do you have health insurance? If not, why? Yes, my husband works for the commonwealth and we are very fortunate to have excellent health insurance now. However, prior to that job, we always carried health insurance, either an individual policy on our own or a group employee policy. I even worked part-time in-office just to get benefits at one time.
Do you have young children? Yes -- 11, 8, and 6.
Were you for the bailout? Absolutely not. The suits should have paid it.
Do you have money invested in stocks? Have you/are you going to cash it in? We have some invested in stock -- McDonald's actually, it's not much so we're better off to ride it out. I assume my husband's 401K with the state is also invested, but don't know much about that. I'm more concerned about the 30K I just put in a money market with bank.
Think we should bring our troops back? Absolutely.
Now, who do you think you will vote for? Obama/Biden -- McCain hasn't proven to me that he will run things differently than Bush.
my answers
What do you personally do to help in your community? No clubs or organizations. I work too many hours. I put my extra time and energy into raising decent human beings.
What do faith do you have? Christian - pentecostal to be more specific. I understand Sarah Palin and her faith.
Do you have a mortage and what is the status? Been able to make payments on time, behind, lost your home? Yes. We are current. It's tough though.
Do you have health insurance? If not, why? Yes. Husband works for hospital. It is very expensive. Any catastrophe would still do us in financially though, at 80/20.
Do you have young children? Kids are 12-1/2, 15 and 17.
Were you for the bailout? No.
Do you have money invested in stocks? Have you/are you going to cash it in? We have never had extra money to invest in the entire 20+ years of our marriage. We have never had financial help from anybody, even our parents, and no one taught us as children the importance of saving.
Think we should bring our troops back? Eventually. I think they are a force for good in the region and they are doing important work. War is sometimes necessary.
Now, who do you think you will vote for? McCain/Palin. If Obama is elected, I'll get to keep even less of my money and I don't have enough as it is. Also, I could never and will never vote for a party that does not protect the rights of the unborn.
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What do you personally do to help in your community?
Volunteer with a pro life group who provide help and support system to women/girls referred to us who have chosen life vs abortion. We have a network of support who also help after the babies are born with child care so the mothers can work and get established on their own. We help with job placement and finding work. It is very rewarding work. More often than not, those mothers become our next volunteers. When we have our get-togethers, to see those children laughing and playing...happy and healthy...makes it all so worth it. If we can help just one...all worth it.
What do faith do you have?
Christian.
Do you have a mortage and what is the status? Been able to make payments on time, behind, lost your home?
Have a mortgage, payments not behind. Have not lost a home.
Do you have health insurance? If not, why?
Yes. With employer.
Do you have young children?
No.
Were you for the bailout?
I believe the economy needed help of some kind. I am not convinced what was passed was the way to go.
Do you have money invested in stocks? Have you/are you going to cash it in?
No money in stocks. After the market problem after 9-11, put in CDs.
Think we should bring our troops back?
From Iraq...as soon as the commanders on the ground believe it is the right time. Whether or not we should have ever have gone doesn't matter, we are there now. I don't want to see what happened in Viet Nam after a precipitous withdrawal happen in Iraq. Millions of innocent Vietnamese were slaughtered. We need to finish there. But leaving Iraq will not solve the "war" problem. Both candidates say we have to stay in Afghanistan, both calling for more troops in Afghanistan. I think Obama said 3 brigades to start. So there is going to be a war..just a matter of where.
Now, who do you think you will vote for?
I know I am voting for John McCain. Too many fundamental differences between Obama's vision for the country and mine. Also too many fundamental moral differences.
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1. Work 7 days a week so I have no time.
2. I believe in a higher power.
3. Yes, not behind, no problems yet but I'm sure when either candidate gets into office I will.
4. Yes but will probably not be able to afford it or it will be taken away once either candidate gets in.
5. No - I refuse to bring kids in this world the way it is. Also, it seems I take care of all the kids of women who do not believe in abortion yet they are the first ones to turn their heads or complain when they are taxed to death to take care of these kids who will not doubt grow up unwanted, abused, etc.
6. No but something had to be done.
7. Yes - going to ride it out but probably should take it out.
8. Yes.
9. Not voting this year.
my answers
What do you personally do to help in your community?
Used to do more but now working two jobs; I only occasionally help with church and my children's school.
What do faith do you have?
Christian
Do you have a mortage and what is the status? Been able to make payments on time, behind, lost your home?
Have a mortgage, not missed a payment. Thank God we have jobs.
Do you have health insurance? If not, why?
Yes - through my husband's employer.
Do you have young children?
Yes, two.
Were you for the bailout?
Absolutely NOT
Do you have money invested in stocks? Have you/are you going to cash it in?
Mutual funds and some other stocks. Think we will sell the mutual funds.
Think we should bring our troops back?
It would be nice but I'm not over there and can't make a judgment call on that one.
Now, who do you think you will vote for?
I'm not thrilled with McCain but I do think he would do a better job than Obama. As eloquently as he speaks, I don't believe much of what comes out of his mouth.
My answers
Who wants to abolish the Federal Reserve? Probably a good idea
Who wants smaller government? I do
No more taxes? Would be nice, but have to have some system in place to run schools, hospitals, keep infrastructure up to date, etc.
No government interference in our lives? Yes!!!
Who is for abolishing the IRS? I most definitely am!
Who believes that government should only be in place to run our military for OUR safety? I do
Who wants government out of our public schools? I do
new q's, new answers
Post war, McCain went back to Vietnam to help improve and restore relations with that country as well as try to find the MIAs. I think his war/pow experience will make him more sensitive to the whole spectrum of war, and help him to make sound and careful decisions regarding that part of the world, with more understanding of all ramifications of same (as well as any other part of the world).
I think Obama would possibly favor Kenya or any country, given the opportunity, that has a majority of black and/or muslim people -- and i think that not because of his color, but because of his longstanding ties to the "social gospel" black separatist type church and his other radical associations. However, i am more concerned with his favored treatment of hugo chavez and other dangerous heads of state.
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1. Heck yes we'd be screaming and shouting and wanting to see McCain's (or anyone elses) bc if there was any question as to him not being born in the US. However, McCain was born on a military installation in the canal zone where his mother and father (who was in the Navy) were stationed. Just like the babies that are born in Germany at the military bases. They are considered "natural born". Had McCain (or anyone else) been born in say Sweden or Norway or any other country, or even in a German Hospital, no he would not be qualified. P.S. - I did not want McCain for president either just in case you think I was supporting him. I didn't.
2. This post was not about Bush's complete lack of regard and respect for the Constitution. That would be a different post to talk about that. But I am not a Bush fan. Didn't vote for him, didn't want him for President. But he did not violate the constitution when he was running for present. As for his violations - in a different post we can talk about them one by one. More than happy to do that and I'm sure we will agree about a lot of things with that subject.
The whole issue about Obama refusing to produce his original bc is not ridiculous. The only people who are calling it ridiculous are the ones who do not care if the contitution is violated - just as long as they get him in. If it was ridiculous the Supreme Court would not be taking on the case. There are at least 10 other cases (not including the case with Alan Keyes). If this was so ridiculous as only the liberals are trying to portray it, it would have been thrown out and there would be no cases. But it is not ridiculous, it is not thrown out and this needs to be resolved before the electoral college votes. Guarantee you this - if there is question they will not just vote for him. They want to know as much as the rest of us do. You think that violating the Constitution is ridiculous? There are lawyers and judges and democrats who want to get to the bottom of the truth and find out why Obama is not submitting the required paperwork and why he has this information sealed?
As the guy in the video says....just show the dog gone birth certificate. The more he tries to conceal it the more suspicious this is.
If the certificate is authentic and an INDEPENDENT team verifies that. Indpendent meaning not conservative and certainly not democrat then that would put to rest all the questions, and the rest of the country could move on and at least we know he would be legite and we would stand by him.
The more the liberals/democrats try to hide this and lie about it the more ridiculous they look.
SHOW THE DOG GONE BIRTH CERTIFICATE and be done with it.
And if it is proved he is inelligible you still have a democrat as president.
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US Citizenship is not required, but legal residency is. I found that on Wikipedia. However, another site I found says a US Citizen for at least 9 years. What question comes into play here is, was his non-US residence covered up before he even became a Senator? That is what one of the law suits is about. I think what they are trying to find out is when Obama moved back to Hawaii to live with his grandparents, they evidently did not get him the proper paperwork and he did not file paperwork to become a US Citizen. He was supposed to do that because he was never a US Citizen to begin with. But I believe what has happened was that his grandparents enrolled him in school using their address, so of course no questions would have been answered. Then he just carried that lie throughout his life. What I'd like to know is what is on his school records. Did he receive funding as a foreigner to attend college.
Here are a couple links I found. The first one explains about security clearances. Having been in the military myself and working in that area this article is very credible. So here are just a few links, but there are many more (unless some deems Google not a credible source to get information from).
http://dyn.politico.com/members/forums/thread.cfm?catid=2&subcatid=8&threadid=1597061
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2096260/posts
http://onekit.enr-corp.com/1003946/
http://www.secureputer.com/obamadeniedsecurityclearance/
http://www.cornswalled.com/2008/11/b-hussein-obama-denied-security.html
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1. Dan Quayle ----- ROFL.
2. N. Korea lives on threats. They've been using them forever. Replacing one bully with another doesn't really accomplish much.
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What former post? I thought I was replying to the original post where you said you hope Cheney will be prosecuted for Abu Ghraib.
My thought was that if your going to go down the road of prosecuting prior presidents/VP for things they did then you better take Clinton with you for all the stuff he did.
So how "near past" are you referring to? Only if it's a past Republican president. The fact is you will ignore the wrong the democrats do when in the office but your ready to lynch a republican.
I was in the military myself. The Geneva Convention does not cover terrorists, which is what those prisoners are.
Oh yeah, you all don't have pat answers
and you never call anyone names...pot/kettle
I just don't agree with Lurker, but to you that's an insult.
Depend upon your answers
Do you want health insurance costs to be reasonable and affordably available for all?
Do you think the middle class deserves some of the tax cuts?
Do you think troops should be withdrawn from Iraq soon?
Do you think Big Oil should lose their tax credits and pay their fair share?
Do you think diplomacy should be tried before bluster and unilateral invasions?
No, you just have no intelligent answers
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Those are good answers, thank you. nm
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answers to survey
What do you personally do to help in your community?
NOT MUCH LATELY, TOO BUSY TRANSCRIBING 7 DAYS/WEEK.
What do faith do you have?
MY OWN VERSION. NO ORGANIZED RELIGION.
Do you have a mortage and what is the status?
NO MORTGAGE, & LIKELY NEVER WILL BE ABLE TO AFFORD.
Been able to make payments on time, behind, lost your home?
CURRENTLY PAYING RENT ON TIME.
Do you have health insurance? If not, why?
YES, BARELY. DOESN'T COVER MUCH, EVEN THINGS IT SAYS IT DOES.
Do you have young children?
NO.
Were you for the bailout?
NO.
Do you have money invested in stocks?
ONLY IN WHAT REMAINS OF COMPANY 401K.
Have you/are you going to cash it in?
SHOULD'VE DONE THAT A YEAR AGO. NOW IT'S TOO LATE.
Think we should bring our troops back?
NOT ALL AT ONCE, BUT YES, IN STAGES. WE'RE FIGHTING IN THE WRONG COUNTRY.
Now, who do you think you will vote for?
BARACK OBAMA. ABSOLUTELY.
So that answers that one. GOP cannot reconcile
When trying to defend the indefensible, change subject, divert and distract. Got it.
Answers to messages below
I watched the film again. Yup, still am disgusted. I looked for those "subliminal" messages. Even backed it up and went through it clip by clip. Nope, nothing "subliminal". The film is telling you about Obama, Ayers, Weatermen, Acorn, etc. The films clips are of actual footage of the outcome from the horrendous crimes. While Obama will quickly dismiss these associatios as "coincidence" or "he just happened to be a person in my neighborhood" he is not being truthful. Read the history. He has had long-term associations with them and still does (maybe he stopped while campaigning, but no doubt he will pick back up once the election is over) - and if he happens to be elected? Well nothing subliminal there. You know what will happen. If you're in agreement with what Ayers did, what Acorn does, etc, then I'm sure you think it is fine, and if some people don't love America like a lot of us do then I can see why they would think this is the greatest man since the invention of sliced bread. But a lot of us do love America. A lot of us do want America to be free. A lot of us do want to own our own business and invest in America and not have our money "stolen" from us by government that we worked 60 or more hours a week for to make ends meet and now have to work more hours cos the people who aren't working but could are receiving their welfare check (i.e., my money that I had to put in an extra 20 hours a week of work to get it).
If you don't like the film fine. That is your opinion. But plenty of us want to know who Obama really is. Who are his ties? Who are his allegiences? And more importantly - why did they choose him? He didn't pick them, they sought him out. Who got him elevated to where he is at so fast? Who made it possible for him (without experience) to rise past Richardson (a governor with more experience), Biden (over 30 years experience), Edwards (over 10 years experience), Kucinich (close to 40 years experience), and others. And even Hillary (8 years experience and 8 years as first lady (16 if you think being a first lady is experience - I don't but its still more than Obama has).
Who is this Obama guy who so quickly was placed into the position when now (even though I voted for Obama over Hillary) we are finding out that Hillary actually did win. Has to make you wonder who put him where he is (hint - it is not the American citizens - not conspiracy - FACT). There are too many unanswered questions. It has nothing to do with propaganda - it has everything to do with learning who and what Obama is.
To the other poster who thinks poor Obama gets slammed 24/7. Looks like somebody googled a dictionary to find a whole bunch of words. Funny how it's okay to slam McCain/Palin 24/7. As would be described by others "we're just trying to get out the word about them". I'm not slamming any posters on the board. I simply am posting a link about a candidate that I feel very strongly is one of the worst choices for a candidate in history. I'm trying to get people to open their eyes and learn more about them. If you don't want to believe this fine. Google Obama put in everything you can. Even use other search engines like Dogpile and others, but for Petes sake, don't go by what's on Obama's website, or stop the smear or any of those other propaganda websites that pull the "poor Obama, everyone is picking on him, he's so innocent, don't beleive them, call them racists, etc, etc." That is propaganda. And if your going to be getting any "subliminal messages" it will be there. When you have 2 candidates you cannot honestly believe any of their info they put out. Candidates lie to get your vote. That's the ways it's always been done. The only thing the conservatives ask is that people educate themselves about each candidate (both of them). Who are they. Who did they associate with. How did they get where they are at. Who is financing them. What organizations did they belong to and what was the purpose of those organizations. Did they attend secret meetings and if so where and with whom and what is the purpose of those secret organizations. What have they done in their careers. What are there voting records like (i.e. if someone (any candidate past, present, or future) votes for the past 2, 3, 4 or more years to raise taxes but now all of a sudden during the campaign has changed their tune and they are promising you they won't raise your taxes or they'll lower your taxes) has to make you think. Also, and most important to me - Is the person we elect going to uphold the constitution or going to change it because it doesn't align itself with their ways of thinking. In knowing everything I know and in other people's feeling Obama is not. Obama associates with people who say "God D@m American" and people who say "American makes me want to throw up".
I posted the video link because it is one of many films (we won't even go into Obama's ties with Kenya) that is trying to put out the truth about Obama. He used video clips of CNN reporters asking questions and everyone KNOWS that CNN is one of the most liberal (MSNBC is the most liberal - CNN is 2nd) TV stations. Do you disagree with what Hillary Clinton was saying? Do you think anyone wanting to know the truth about Obama's affiliation with Ayers should be just shut up?
So until this election is over I will continue to try to get the word out about Obama life (the one he is hiding from Americans and covering up by instructing his followers to call people racists and insult them if they say anything negative about him).
any answers from poster ? what does this mean?
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This was a test and I got my answers, so thanks. NM
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No answers yet, eh, JTBB? That's what
Ah, poetry. 
to be honest, I liked a lot of his answers -
I do not want all the illegals here - they should be sent home, but if it is going to be as expensive as they say, then the plan Obama put forth of fining them for being here illegally and making them then go back to the process of trying to be come legal is a good one. They are not going to send them home whoever is President, so why not fine them? His plan is as good as any I have seen. When he is talking about helping, my thoughts are that he is talking about the legal immigrants.
So much for honest no bashing answers....LOL
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Don't expect any answers from O lovers on this
If Obama hasn't told them, they wouldn't know....they need him to think for them. He won't even give the amount needed to run his social programs, let alone all the other pie in the sky stuff he wants to do, stuff they do in socialist countries where everyone pays through the nose more than us and the government takes care of all of them, like Obama wants to do, take care of all of us while he screws us all over.
Most of those "plans" he has would put so many businesses out of business it is scary to even think about it. All this stuff he wants mandated...well, if small businesses have to enact that garbage, they will go under. Not the rich! The very middle-class he seems to have convinced this O lovers on this board he wants to take care of.
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