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I don't see anyone forcing you to open posts...?

Posted By: sam on 2008-10-06
In Reply to: He died a long, long time ago! (If he was ever - even real, to begin with).

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m-eo-w . . no one forcing you
to stay on the sinking ship. 
I never said anyone was. Is anyone forcing you? tsk
tsk, tsk.  How UNAMERICAN!
I'm not forcing anything
It is impossible to "force" your faith on anyone. Because if it is forced than it is not genuine. But I don't sit here and call people names about it! I asked a serious question and none of you who don't believe have answered me. Which makes me wonder?

I know that not everyone in this world is going to believe in Jesus. That is heart wrenching to me. See you look at us from the outside, and all you see are "brainwashed cliques" but come inside and you will see people heartbroken for this world. You will see people fall down on their knees for those of you who have used the free will GOD has given you to turn away from him.

Yeah I get a little heated sometimes when people say RUDE things about my Savior. But that would be the same as me talking badly about one of your loved ones. You wouldn't just sit idly by and let me. Well it really upsets me to no end when people want to bash the person who died for me. And He did. And he's coming back. And those who deny Him are going to have a lot to answer for.

Faith is a gift from God for those who earnestly seek him. Without it you cannot even begin to comprehend Him.


He's not forcing anybody to do it -
He is offering a tax credit of $4000 for college if you do it. Wouldn't your children be the ones to benefit from that at the same time as the community?
There is no one forcing you to get an abortion. nm
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Nobody is forcing her or you to use those options -
That is what I don't understand. Why do you feel "forced" in any way because that option is available.

Cigarettes kill millions of people - do you feel like they are forced on you?

Alcohol kills millions of people in one way or another - do you complain that that is forced on you?

Drugs kill millions of people - do you feel that is forced on you?

You have the choice of educating your daughter and letting her know that you do not believe that is an option in your lives - nobody is forcing you to make that choice... it is just like the other things I mentioned above, they are available in this world, but they are not options for me and my family and they are not forced on me because they exist.
Nobody's forcing their values on you.
Nobody's making you to become gay.  Nobody is forcing an abortion on you.   Nobody is compelling you to join their church.  Nobody insists you drive a Honda.  I won't tell you what books to read. You can listen to any music you like. Nobody's requiring you to do anything, not even give your permission.  If you think what you have is diminished by someone else having it as well, that's rather.... infantile.
there is no one forcing you to get pregnant when u dont want to be.
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Wouldn't that be forcing YOUR view?
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Hypocrite! You talk about pro-lifers forcing their

beliefs on you, but you do the same to us.  Sure, a woman can choose to murder her baby or not.  The reality is abortion clinics are full of young girls --- NOT WOMEN!  Young girls who didn't have sense enough to use a condom or get free BCPs from a clinic.  Young girls who thought it made them women just to have sex with a guy.  Young girls who are faced with a huge life altering decision and are nowhere near emotionally, chronologically or intellectually prepared to make it.


My daughter, when she becomes a teenager, has an option available to her that I do not want her to have.  But you have forced your beliefs on me.


Hmmmm.... so homosexuals AREN'T forcing their
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Posts were removed due to the nastiness. Play nice and posts won't get deleted.

I saw the posts for myself, no one "ran" to me. Note that all boards were reviewed for inappropriate posts.


She also posts regularly here. Who are you to say where she posts? nm
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Can't open the link.nm
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open your eyes
and you believe this?  Democrats misleading the public?  OMG, this administration has mislead us on everything and lies all the time..there is nothing you can believe about this administration cause their only cause is for big business and to pay back those who had Bush in their pockets for the election.  An administration who says Intelligent Design should be taught and there is no such thing as global warming?  Well, gotta tell ya, the reality is..the middle class is being squeezed and the rich are getting richer..I have a friend who was born with a major silver spoon in his mouth and he too agrees, as Clinton does, that the tax breaks are only going to the rich..I have never received a tax break yet I pay quite a bit in taxes..As you defend the republican ideology, the country around you disintegrates..Im so sorry for you, however, you will be there in the ditches with us when everything falls apart and where will Bush be, LOLOLOLOL, in his protected ranch..OPEN YOUR EYES..Nothing in this administration helps the working class/middle class.NOTHING.
I am open minded
but I'm also not gullible to anything that floats down the river either.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

an open letter to God

Sunday, August 31st, 2008


Dear God,


The other night, the Rev. James Dobson's ministry asked all believers to pray for a storm on Thursday night so that the Obama acceptance speech outdoors in Denver would have to be cancelled.


I see that You have answered Rev. Dobson's prayers -- except the storm You have sent to earth is not over Denver, but on its way to New Orleans! In fact, You have scheduled it to hit Louisiana at exactly the moment that George W. Bush is to deliver his speech at the Republican National Convention.


Now, heavenly Father, we all know You have a great sense of humor and impeccable timing. To send a hurricane on the third anniversary of the Katrina disaster AND right at the beginning of the Republican Convention was, at first blush, a stroke of divine irony. I don't blame You, I know You're angry that the Republicans tried to blame YOU for Katrina by calling it an "Act of God" -- when the truth was that the hurricane itself caused few casualties in New Orleans. Over a thousand people died because of the mistakes and neglect caused by humans, not You.


Some of us tried to help after Katrina hit, while Bush ate cake with McCain and twiddled his thumbs. I closed my office in New York and sent my entire staff down to New Orleans to help. I asked people on my website to contribute to the relief effort I organized -- and I ended up sending over two million dollars in donations, food, water, and supplies (collected from thousands of fans) to New Orleans while Bush's FEMA ice trucks were still driving around Maine three weeks later.


But this past Thursday night, the Washington Post reported that the Republicans had begun making plans to possibly postpone the convention. The AP had reported that there were no shelters set up in New Orleans for this storm, and that the levee repairs have not been adequate. In other words, as the great Ronald Reagan would say, "There you go again!"


So the last thing John McCain and the Republicans needed was to have a split-screen on TVs across America: one side with Bush and McCain partying in St. Paul, and on the other side of the screen, live footage of their Republican administration screwing up once again while New Orleans drowns.


So, yes, You have scared the Jesus, Mary and Joseph out of them, and more than a few million of your followers tip their hats to You.


But now it appears that You haven't been having just a little fun with Bush & Co. It appears that Hurricane Gustav is truly heading to New Orleans and the Gulf coast. We hear You, O Lord, loud and clear, just as we did when Rev. Falwell said You made 9/11 happen because of all those gays and abortions. We beseech You, O Merciful One, not to punish us again as Pat Robertson said You did by giving us Katrina because of America's "wholesale slaughter of unborn children." His sentiments were echoed by other Republicans in 2005.


So this is my plea to you: Don't do this to Louisiana again. The Republicans got your message. They are scrambling and doing the best they can to get planes, trains and buses to New Orleans so that everyone can get out. They haven't sent the entire Louisiana National Guard to Iraq this time -- they are already patrolling the city streets. And, in a nod to I don't know what, Bush's head of FEMA has named a man to help manage the federal government's response. His name is W. Michael Moore. I kid you not, heavenly Father. They have sent a man with both my name AND W's to help save the Gulf Coast.


So please God, let the storm die out at sea. It's done enough damage already. If you do this one favor for me, I promise not to invoke your name again. I'll leave that to the followers of Rev. Dobson and to those gathering this week in St. Paul.


Your faithful servant and former seminarian,


Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
MichaelMoore.com


Who said it? Open mind and
Preconceived notions are the locks on the door to wisdom.
Who said it? Open mind and
Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people whom we personally dislike.
Who said it? Open mind and
It's a recession when your neighbour loses his job; it's a depression when you lose yours.
Who said it? Open mind and
This one calls for TWO:

Diplomacy is to do and say the nastiest things in the nicest way.

A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to heII in such a way that you actually look forward to the trip.
Who said it? Open mind and
Community service should not be done just to announce the completion. It should be done without looking for a reward or praise. It should not be looked at as doing something for someone, but assisting them in making life better and fulfilling.
Ooh that's such an open question
I read that and had to laugh. That last sentance will leave you open for all sorts of comments. HA HA.

I actually don't think the word Moron was around when Einstein was. Maybe it was, but his statement doesn't imply that. I've heard the same statement used in different situations and you can just take it for what its worth.
It's quite possible! My mind is open. But sm
Obama didn't chicken out. McCain did--again!

I just watched the news on NBC. It was said (on Brian Williams' show) that this morning McCain got spooked by Obama's rising approval rating as opposed to his with respect to the financial situation, and he was advised to suspend--and pretend ("pretend" being my term).

All he has do to is open his mouth....
and stick his size 13 in it. But I don't see you criticizing him. Franklin Roosevelt on TV after crash in 29...only it was Hoover and no TV at that time. Oh I think that ad is terrible. But it's your ad. We did that? Yes, you did that. Well, then we should take it down. Read my lips, NO CLEAN COAL. Obama is FOR clean coal technology.

Still waiting for your critique of Biden.
You need to open your eyes.......
We have Muslim people in our church. They will be the first to tell you that are so glad to be out of the country where this is forced upon them. They will be the first to tell you the Q'ran does not speak of love one another, only love another Muslim. They will be the first to tell you that Westerners do not really know the full extent of the hatred that is taught to the men/sons. They will be the first to tell you they are so glad they learned there is really a God that says to love ALL, love your family members even if they are non-believers, and to love those that hate you. Islam does not teach that. You can yack on and on all you want but you can't show me anything verses that say otherwise. They more than you know the Q'ran back to back and will say it does not speak of love of others and to hate all; Jews, Christians, and nonbelievers.

Sadly, why do you assume those that have denounced Islam don't know their feelings of what they have been through more than you?

You immediately jumped to Christians. Why is that? There are those that have left countries where this is taught, do not accept Christianity, but have denounced what they were taught because it is hate.

You need to get off your anti-Christian bandwagon.
Well, that would open up the world

to anybody, even terrortists, to run for President, doesn't it? Your reasoning is not very sane.


 


 


They wouldn't open for me
I went to his website and didn't find them there either.  As I said, the only thing I saw was a summary by a questionable source.
The doors open--don't let it hit you
--I'm not ashamed of America.
If you are as open-minded as you say you are
why does a countdown that millions of people are doing, whether its openly on a forum, or under their breath, nauseate you so much? Just like the 10-paragraph diatribe above someone launched in reply to the 2930 post, me thinks you doest protest too much. I mean, really, what is the harm in someone being excited and happy at the idea of a changing of the guard?
Open your eyes. It is all over
Look at Lou Dobbs main page.
Do you have an open mind? ..Where is it?
Conservatives rarely have an open mind.
Without open-mindedness, there will never be change sm
I have my core values and so does everyone else. I would rather be part of the solution than part of the problem. The left are not wackos, just like I know all you righties do not all drink Kool-Aid and have propaganda-soaked brains.
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You are soooo open to the truth...NOT....
she darned sure looks more pregnant there than that poor 16-year-old girl did in the dailykrap pictures. Do you people not even care what effect this stuff will have on her? Well of course not. She is the child of a Republican and therefore means nothing to you. How silly of me.
Go to heck! I AM open to the truth!
I am just stating my personal OPINION!!! Yes, this IS America, and I am ALLOWED to have it! She doesn't really look it there! Just like no one cares about all of the garbage that they spread about Obama, but I don't see many people defending him here! It could affect his kids also! Obviously no one here made that story up by themselves, so go to the KOS and complain to THEM for printing it, and then...
GET A LIFE!!!!!
You aren't even open-minded enough to think about this...
He has already said he wants to practice redistribution of wealth (tax oil companies and give it back to people who did not earn it). That is Marxist theory. And now we have son of Alinsky high-fiving him in the Boston Globe. I am seeing stuff that I am still confirming that he taught the Alinsky theory. One thing alone, maybe not so alarming...but the preponderance of evidence....the jury is still out, but it does not look good.
What is sad is you wont even open your eyes to
nm
are you really that afraid of open debates you need to
reduce yourself to name-calling?

I am unsure who to vote for but one thing I know is it will be for whoever is going to make my life better.

Democrats might tax but the taxes go toward social programs, libraries, schools, afterschool programs, playgrounds, all of which are almost nonexistent where I live now since the last 8 years. Rich people walk around here like they are royalty, they pay no taxes and have no care or interest I helping those less fortunate, spare the very few who do.

the more I see on TV and the more I read on boards like these it seems to me republicans are afraid of democrats. when you see Bush sneering and snickering (many examples on youtube) he is not doing that towards democrats, he is laughing behind the backs of all the republicans who believe his lies. I think the joke is actually on the republicans more than democrats.

I have never seen such people be taken advantage of, and love it so much.

send your children off to war to die, give up all your social programs, take more out of your pocket, all so the rich people can slither around this country at their will with no responsibility toward it. that is left to the poor and the nonwhites.

I am starting to see the bigger picture here, I think Republicans do not believe in social programs because of greed, because no one should be able to make money unless you have the right skin color. Say, how many blacks in Alaska, anyway?

lets all lie down and just die for the rich republicans. here, take my money, my children, my hopes and dreams, my pride - just take it all and make sure to give me absolutely nothing back. Right on!
That surely should open some eyes. (sm)

I sure hope the constituents of those candidates see these videos and boot the jerks out. I also think they should be arrested and put in the slammer, plus pay back all the money they received from FMFM, and definitely never be able to run for public office again.


Stuff like this makes me furious. They are supposed to be working for us, not themselves.


Maybe it's time to dig deeper into the whole government, and weed all these guys out, whether pubs or dems. Don't matter.


And democrats will not open their eyes and think
objectively.
DONT OPEN the above document, it contains
Safest not to open ANY links on this board... things have gotten nasty enough on here to have been lowered to computer virus warfare.
Insane.
this is an open board last I knew
and there is no reason to put down a person for posting what you do not approve of.
the polls to be open in my area
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please open your eyes - you mistated yourself
I am old enough to remember the 60s. This is not the 60s. This is also not the Vietnam war. This is a whole different and new set of problems (we have AL Queda, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Terrorist who want to see our country destroyed and is most likely possible they have found a way to do it. What better way than to get one of theirs to be our next president. Not to mention all the social and other issues going on today. How I wish it was the 60s again. Life seemed so simple back then (actually I wouldn't mind the 40s/50s).

There is proof Obama was "best buds" with Ayers. Haven't you been reading all the information, watched the videos, read the documentation of eye witnesses, or are you believing only what Obama says... "he was a guy who happened to be in my neighborhood". Obama is running for President. Of course he's going to say that.

Also your statement is incorrect. Ayers is NOT a respected professor (unless you believe that it was okay to do the criminal activities he did). Sure I did some things in my 20s I wouldn't want to be judged on today, but Ayers was just interviewed and he said he is not sorry and that not enough terrorist activies were committed. He also said America makes him want to throw up. Those are his feelings of today - not when he was in his 20s.

You have got to open your eyes! What is wrong with Hillary for President or any one of the other candidates. Why Obama? My husband told me today that you could have on film Obama stabbing people over and over and clearly on film and there are still people who will vote for him and say so what?
An open letter - see link

http://www.rense.com/general83/openn.htm


 


Good of you to keep an open mind.

Before you open display your ignorance of the
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cannot open the links you are posting.
I assume my firewall is too strong. I have to enter msnbc.com, but then I do not find the specific story.

Nothing wrong with having an open mind......sm
just don't let it be so open that your brain falls out.

I have no doubt that Obama is extremely smart and diplomatic. However, any improved relations we "enjoy" with other countries now comes not from any amazing strides he has made in diplomacy but rather in that he has sold us out. He is slowly chipping away at our world position by downgrading, for lack of a better word, our presence in the world as a force to be reckoned with. In other words, he is kissing the backside of countries who seek to destroy America and are having a good laugh at our expense. Don't get too comfy yet.